I SMELL LITIGATION IN THE AIR (Yes, The Lying Continues)  

wistfuljester 65M
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7/19/2006 10:39 pm

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I SMELL LITIGATION IN THE AIR (Yes, The Lying Continues)

This is what what posted in the sinner group by The Liar before my 2nd email was sent to her:

"I am sorry to see her go. She and I messaged a few times when she had a stalker. Her stalker and I werent on good terms either..LOL...but I digress. I wish her the best of luck and much happiness. I hope she finds her way back to us very soon. She is a strong, intelligent and resilient lady."

Now, she has repeated my emails to her in her blog, and lied by claiming I DIDN'T post them here. Then we get this interesting bunch of deception:

"I made absolutely no response to this apology because I felt it half assed at best. He seemed to be blaming everyone else for his actions, including me (funny that he claims here he banned me for an opinion shared by a male member of the group, yet the male member suffered no repercussions..seems a bit misogynist, duplicitious at the very least..but I digress)..But nonetheless, I ignore the message and place him on block. The male member was not banned because he stopped making a fuss and posted an apology for being rude--unlike you.

A day or so after this message, I get a message from someone from his group, purely out of the blue and for this purpose wanting to remain anonymous, warning me, that wistfuljester has configured a profile as a woman with a similar handle as mine. Determined to cause trouble for me in my groups by making people think it is me. I look and sure enough, there is someone with a handle very close to mine that has joined 3 of the 4 groups that I am most active in. I had no idea if the information was true, but it was suspect, so I gave some of the moderators of the groups a heads up. JW, I am sure can verify this. I also told the mods that I wasnt going to play the game, and that I planned to ignored this impostor. First of all, it is completely convenient that this "member" chooses to remain anonymous. Yes, a young lady with a somewhat similar handle did join the group. At first I thought it was odd, and I even wondered if it weren't you, out to try to stir up some new mischief. She soon proved to be quite real, so I quit worrying about it. I see you have not bothered to explain to your audience that she has been in those groups for a few weeks now, and has not caused a bit of a problem for anyone. Now, I wonder why you left that part out? Again, shame on you for only telling part of the story (if your part is even really true--where's your proof?

A week passes and I attempt to log on, and find one of those lovely glitches where AdultFriendFinder loses your profile and you are supposed to message them to get it back. Seems to happen every time I change my password, which I had done. When my profile reappeared, all my settings were lost. It had the wrong birthday, height, everything..plus my block list was missing. I didnt think about adding wistfuljester back, because I thought it to be over.

OK, I had just joined the group sinner that very day. My response to HeartlessBitch69 IS M.I.A. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON, where I wished someone he despised well. There are also references in the text to other postings I had made in other groups over the past couple of weeks. Reference to blog posts I had made. I looked at the log in my own blog, and noticed he had been there everyday for the past week (thats as far as it went back. Which is funny because it only contained 1 posting at the time. I dont blog well...I had already previously noticed that he was showing up in groups I belonged to, ones where he hadnt been active in 6 months or more. I've already posted above what you wrote there. Clearly, that goes WAY beyond just wishing someone well. I've already explained the lies that this other woman told just because she didn't like one of my blog posts, and how she ranted about me several times a week. I didn't respond for a long time, but she kept it up and posted against me by handle name in that group. As far as me looking at your blog every day for a week, that's just rubbish. I'll admit that I look at a LOT of blogs, and I may have even looked at yours once or twice. So what? That's not "stalking"--those are public posts. Again, get over yourself!

So I made the post in the advice group. It may not have been the most prudent of choices, but I refuse to be stalked and harassed by the likes of this man. Since posting it, I was contacted by a 19 yr old girl you claims he did the same thing to her. That she took her profile down because he stalked her, and AdultFriendFinder would do nothing. The young ladies handle was daddys sweetie (printed with permission) You were not being "stalked" and "harassed". As far as daddys sweetie is concerned, as I mentioned elsewhere she got upset when bimble posted disagreement with one of her posts, and began to flame the group in her posts, so I deleted those posts and banned her. I never sent her even one message, and I would suggest that she provide proof (which, of course, she does not have). Furthermore, if she took her profile down, how is it she was able to read your post in the advice group and correspond with you? Once again, you post a lot of unsupported, unprovable lies and try to pass them off as truth. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF? You have none.

Even today he messages me, just to make sure I see his words. He cant stop himself. He has to have contact in some form, be it positive or negative. Then he will play victim, because he doesnt see where he has done anything wrong.

Get some help Jim! This behavior you are exhibiting is obsessive and unhealthy. And for God sake, leave me the hell alone. I am tired of your shit. Do not contact me again. As I said in the message that you failed to post, We are NOT friends, we are nothing. I want NO contact at all with you. Why can't you honor that? If you would, you wouldnt find yourself, once again, defending your actions. How could I fail to post your message in my blog, when you didn't even send it to me until many hours later? Why is it you seem to be constitutionally incapable of just sticking to the truth? Why must you embellish and lie? YOU WANT NO MORE CONTACT? FINE. JUST STOP POSTING YOUR LIES. YOU CAN TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU HATE ME ALL YOU WANT, AND I WON'T SAY A WORD ANYWHERE.

Finally, this interesting little tidbit was thrown in to The Liar's blog post as a reply. It's from someone with a turned-off profile who calls herself (himself?) phatbabygirl4u. I have never even heard of this person before, let alone correspond with it. Check this out:

Imagine my amusement at seeing old Wisty's name in the title of your blog, listed in the recently posted blog section.

Sometime before christmas last year, wisty made contact with me. We are very close in location. At first he seemed nice, weird but nice enough. He was not my type and I told him so. Too old. He continued to send me messages and to flirt with me, despite me asking him to please stop.

My fiance' and I met on AdultFriendFinder. At this time things were getting very serious between us, although we had not become engaged yet. My fiance' messaged him and asked him to stop. Old Wisty's messages had not been nasty or mean, just not wanted. He still continued to send me messages and winks after my fiance' asked him to stop. I put him on block messages/winks. I begin getting messages from ruefuljester or something like that, which was him as well. I blocked messages/winks on that profile too. He then contacted me as a standard female profile, no doubt to get around the blocks on his male profiles. It was then I decided to report him for multiple profiles. The female one was deleted by AdultFriendFinder but the male ones were allowed to remain.

He would show up in the local chatroom when I would be chatting there. It seemed as if I could go no where inside AdultFriendFinder that he was not there laying in wait. So I know what you mean when you said it's creeping you out. It did me too.

I don't really think he does this to be malicious. I think he is a lonely old man, who can not accept and respect other peoples boundaries. He has such a need for acceptance, that he doesn't even realize what he is doing is wrong and will drive people away. He was not mean or nasty in his flirtations or messages. He just didn't respect the boundaries I set for him. Just as he isn't accepting the boundaries you set for him. This is obviously a pattern of behavior for him.

My profile is turned off now. Not because of him. I am getting married. I found my guy here, so anything is possible.

Good luck and all I can say is keep reporting him. Maybe someday the sheer quantity of complaints will get the Abuse team to act. I know how frustrating it can be.

First of all, although it's possible I might have sent this person an email, that would have been all if she told me I was not her type. I certainly never have had a situation where what this person described ever happened, and I most definitely have never heard from ANYONE's fiance.

Secondly, I do maintain a second profile called ruefuljester, BUT THAT PROFILE HAS ONLY EXISTED SINCE MAY 26, 2006, AND NO MAIL HAVE EVER BEEN SENT TO ANYONE UNDER THAT HANDLE. It exists solely as a backup in case A F F loses my wistfuljester profile--something that has happened for no reason to MANY members of this site. The header of it even says, Wistfuljester's alternative profile; if you don't believe me, go look at it. It shows the date it was created.

There has been no time, ever, that I have done what this person describes. Once again: WHERE IS THE PROOF?? It doesn't exist.

Wistfuljester was my handle starting 11/13/05; prior to that, I had the handle jimdadddy. Those and rueful are all I've ever used, and I sure as heck have never pretended to be a female...LMAO!!

There was a period of a few weeks right after wistfuljester was created that I and several other members here were harassed by several fake jimdaddys--I believe there were 5 or 6 of them altogether, which I got A F F to shut down because their attempt to impersonate me were so blatantly obvious. You can read more details about that experience here: I Continue to Encounter ColdHearted Skeptics. It had something to do with some silly posting war that had started almost a year before, that I didn't know was going on until I got dragged into it by the imposters. If there were ever any fake jesters, I was never aware of it. (Hmmm...maybe I should run a search?)

Seriously though, this phatgirl is clearly just a phony out to muddy the waters with more bullshit. For all I know, he or she IS The Liar trying to play some sick little game. It wouldn't be the first time that's been done on this site, and I'm sure it won't be the last.

FetedCelloBeefs 48M

7/20/2006 4:38 am

you're better off not responding to this type of stuff.

wistfuljester replies on 7/20/2006 8:35 am:
Maybe so--but I'm just really fed up with people telling lies. If you want to dislike or hate me, at least have the guts to stick to the truth instead of making shit up!

TechSteve 50M

7/20/2006 7:04 am

Jim can you post with your ruefuljester profile ? I am too lazy to search for it.

If that profile is a standard profile and if you have the creation date on it that is recent, than you have proof that person posted a bogus story.

It sounds suspicious to me. The fiancee and her sent you mail telling you to stop, but they never blocked you until after a few exchanges. She talks as if the chatrooms are her own private place. There is an ignore feature in AdultFriendFinder chatrooms.


wistfuljester replies on 7/20/2006 8:34 am:
Yes, if you look at ruefuljester, the date I joined feature is turned on, so you should see the May 26, 2006 right there on it. It's a standard profile.

It is a wholly fabricated story, no doubt created by that blog person herself. The profile itself is, I'm sure, bogus--if it weren't turned off, that would most likely be totally obvious.

ruefuljester 65M

7/20/2006 8:38 am

Here you are, Steve. As you can see, it's just like what I said.

Shelly_Marie 45F

7/20/2006 7:23 pm

well, i dont know much about the situation and all...but I think its best for both parties to agree to drop the subject and stop posting about it. If someone posts about it, its natural for the opposing party to start watching what is going on, I know its not easy to do, considering the situation is upsetting, but its the only way. Either way, the situation is not resolvable, so there is no reason to go on about it or whatever, even though it can be hard not to. Jim, just worry about the ones that care now, they are what should be important to you.

wistfuljester replies on 7/20/2006 9:01 pm:
Good advice, Shelly. I shall try to listen and follow it.

wistfuljester 65M

7/21/2006 8:14 am

LOL!! Now she's posting in her blog that I'm looking at it 5-6 times a day.

Once a day, yes...but even if I were looking as often as she claims, she wouldn't be able to tell, because the site only shows your visits once for each calendar day.

She just can't help but exaggerate. Pathological liars are a sad bunch...

Shelly_Marie 45F

7/21/2006 10:26 am

well I dont know that much about your situation but, it only shows it the day that you visit the blog. For instance...if you visited a blog on july 20 and then so many other people visited it that same day and you visited it again that very same evening it would pull your listing up to the top of the list, and now suppose 6 other people visited her blog the next day being july 21 and then you did then it would 'pull' your july 20th listing to the top to say july 21. She would know if she was watching the list constantly, yes..but that is the only way. It does not show a listing for every 'single' time you visit. I know, cause I had a guy watching my blog for days on end several times a day and that was the only way that I knew.

wistfuljester replies on 7/22/2006 5:53 pm:
Well, I've stopped watching it at all. I've said my piece and made my case.

Enough is enough, time to move on!

Shelly_Marie 45F

7/22/2006 9:45 pm

Great Idea!

leroyjones123 55M
3 posts
7/23/2006 8:06 pm

I am daddys_sweetie. This account belongs to my play daddy and he has allowed me to us it to answer your lies. He contacted pussy galore and related my story to her. As my Master, he gave her permission to us my handle in her defense. Let's get our story straight shall we? I mistakenly joined your little perverts group of old fucks looking for young pussy. I say mistakenly, because you told me yourself, that you like to personally message a welcome to all the women under 20 who join your group. Care to deny that? You invited me to your home if I were ever in your area. Care to deny that? You flirted with me by private message here and I responded I was not interested in you because of the age. Which really wasn't the truth. You are unattractive and out of shape and I was not attracted to you. I wanted to spare your feelings. In return, you replied that I was probably a "fake cunt" your words and you told me you had reported me to AdultFriendFinder stating I told you I was underage. Someone posted something in defense of you being attacked in the group and I replied something to the extent that if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. That if everyone said the same thing about someone, then maybe it was the truth. When I did that you banned me, and deleted every post I had made in your group. You delete so many things, then send people searching stating "where is the proof?" I put messages in your old fucks group and in the younger women older mens group run by the chick from texas on the same day. But there's no record now of me ever belonging to your group. I did, and you know I did. Too many remember me. The next day, I get an email from AdultFriendFinder that says my account has been suspended pending me sending proof of my age. Care to deny this? I hope you do because I copied it all to Daddy and he has saved it. Bimble said nothing but a welcome to me in your group. My issue with bimble was in his blog. He and I had a private coversation about you, in which he spoke about being disgusted by your behavior in the blog with some other woman. Yet he was in the group kissing your ass. I called him two faced and back stabbing in his blog. Nothing transpired between us in your group. So get your story straight. You are petty and vindictive. So go ahead, file your damn lawsuit!! But just remember, everything you have deleted, still remains on the systems administrators log. See you in court asshole!!

I will be posting this, with Daddy's permission, in pussy galors blog too since you don't seem to be able to take any form of criticism.

wistfuljester replies on 7/23/2006 9:59 pm:
Sorry, "sweetie"--if that's really your name--but everything you are saying here is a flat-out lie. Yes, you joined the group, and you posted a comment quoting something your mom always said, and Bimble disagreed with it. The next thing I know, you were posting all sorts of flaming comments about me and the group, because you took what Bimble said in the wrong way. So, yes, I did delete your comments and ban you. By the way: I don't see any comments from you in Bimble's blog at all.

I never had any personal contact with you, either through A F F or otherwise. There was a time when I was sending a welcome email to ALL of the women who joined the group, but I had stopped doing that before you joined.

Since I NEVER use the private message here, I have never "flirted" with you or any other woman on this site using A F F's IM--why? Because it won't work with my MacIntosh computer, that's why! I have tried repeatedly to message people on her eusing their IM, and it has never worked. Period.

No, I didn't invite you to my home, nor would I, after the way someone like you has acted. And, I would NEVER call a woman a "fake cunt"--fake maybe, but never with the word cunt. I'm too much of a gentleman for that. Nor could I or did I "report" ANYONE to A F F for being underage--how could I do something like that without proof? Obviously, I have no way of knowing if you got a letter from A F F about proof of age or not, so I guess I'll take your word for it.

Hmm...there might be one word of truth to your little rant here: it may well be that I'm unattractive and out of shape...lmao!

Whatever, you and I never had any contacts beyond those that took place in my group. And your presence in the group was only 2-3 days at most. If you or your "Daddy" have proof otherwise (and of course you don't, because none of what you say ever happened between us), by all means trot it out.

One thing for sure: ol' Leroy is gonna feel like a damn fool once he realizes what a little liar he's hooked up with! I wonder how many OTHER lies you've already told him?


Sweetie, I can take all the criticism you can dish out, and not care a bit. But shame on you for lying. You don't even lie very well. Go ahead and post this or anything else in Pussy's blog to your heart's content. I don't bother to read her trash anymore.

wistfuljester 65M

7/23/2006 10:03 pm

Hmm...I wonder why these poor little girls can't just stick to the truth that they're all pissed off for being banned from the group? Think of all the fun they could have calling me a Hitler or Tin God...lol.

Instead, they make up these ridiculous stories.

Pssst! To tell the truth, I think it's really just one person with a bunch of fake profiles...don't tell anybody!

wistfuljester 65M

7/23/2006 10:09 pm

Something else: QB (formerly HB ) keeps coming to this blog to check it every day, even though I stopped looking at hers a few days ago.

Hey, QB--are you daddys_sweetie and phatbabygirl4u?

I'll bet you are...you never could seem to let go of anything, and we both know you don't even know the meaning of honesty.

bimble3 59M
49 posts
7/24/2006 4:45 am

Well, seeing as I now have been "Dragged" into this Mire of Bullshit, the ONLY convo's that I had with you Sweetie, were thru my Blog !! And there, I said that IF someone called a Lady a "Fake cunt", that I would Leave, as I joined the Group as it was "Respectful" to women, and I would NOT be a part of a "Hypocritical" group, I discussed this, and was COMPLETELY satisfied that this is all B/S, Why it Happens ?? Who knows, But I have to say....... At 19 your Maturity could certainly use some "Examining", As I said to Jim, I believe that you are being "Used" by someone else to fight her Battles for her !! Now THAT is JUST MY OPINION !!
As for "disgusted by your behavior in the blog with some other woman" I would like to just refute that comment COMPLETELY !!

If you recall, I said that IF IT WAS TRUE, that I would leave, rather than "Choose sides", I am quite happy with what I have heard from BOTH sides, and I just see this as trying to cause decention between me & Jim, which quite frankly, you wont do !!
I wish you luck with the rest of your life.

wistfuljester replies on 7/24/2006 8:49 am:
Thanks for taking the time to let your opinions known, Bimble.

Sadly, I don't think this person or persons is intelligent enough to realize that it doesn't pay to lie unless you are very, very good at it...lol.

bimble3 59M
49 posts
7/25/2006 2:28 pm

Jim....... I MUST say, that my memory is of that of a sieve, but I Know that IF i said those things (( And I May WELL have done !!! )) It was focusing on "ONE SIDE" of the "Dispute".

Since I heard the other, and formed my OWN opinion, I'm STILL here !!!!!!! Need I say more ????

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