So Much for Freedom  

warmandsexy52 65M
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3/5/2006 4:54 am

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So Much for Freedom

I am so pleased to be a child of the western democratic world, but it worries me a little when the rhetoric is used "fighting for freedom." It's a wonderful soundbite - it has all the right resonances about it - but there comes a point when you're asked what exactly freedom is.

What do you say?

Worryingly, a Chicago museum survey found that only one person in a thousand could say what the five freedoms of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution were.

Twenty two percent could name all five members of the Simpsons family!

Now you could argue that western democracy and freedoms made it possible for all the very funny and ironic perceptions of our society that the Simpsons and other programmes present to us, and there wasn't rioting in the streets and threats of suicide bombings when South Park mocked the film "The Passion of Christ." And I'd wholly subscribe to that view.

But we should equally be able to clearly articulate freedom if we are asking some very brave and mostly young people to lay their lives on the line for it. Ultimately the power of argument outlives the power of the assault rifle and the bomb and we owe it to ourselves to hold to a quality of argument if our world view is not only to prevail but ultimately survive.

I would be prepared to die for freedom, but I would want to know exactly what that meant.

So can you tell me all five freedoms enshrined in the First Amendment of the American Constitution?

The answer is in the first comment box.

warmandsexy52 65M
13164 posts
3/9/2006 11:32 pm

Unthinkable, dear Feisty, and certainly unenviable. I worry about gender imbalanced cultures, not simply because of the disempowerment of women, but in their track record of violence, and in particular the covert acceptance of violence to women.

FeistySyn 53F

3/8/2006 7:55 pm

I recently had to list the three things I am most appreciative of in my life and #3 was that I was born in the USA... as a female, I cannot imagine how different my life would have been having been been in many other parts of the world

Apparently the depth of depravity here is bottomless... don't you feel right at home?

warmandsexy52 65M
13164 posts
3/6/2006 12:55 pm

Foxy sweetie, I've gone looking at events in the Philippines. Appalling! Torn between an attempted coup and the ultra-authoritarian Proclamation 1017, so open to abuse, I see what you mean.

Don’t it always seem to go
That you don’t know what you’ve got
Till it’s gone....

Joni Mitchell, "Big Yellow Taxi"

Thank you for opening my eyes. {=}

warmandsexy52 65M
13164 posts
3/5/2006 11:16 pm

Citizen five, many thanks. I admire and respect your writing - articulate, intelligent, insightful. Your agreement therefore means much.

warmandsexy52 65M
13164 posts
3/5/2006 11:10 pm

Goddess's endorsement is highly valued ..... her personal karma and the path she walks inspirational. What can I say but thank you.

TzarsAmuseChant 42M
2854 posts
3/5/2006 7:33 pm

I agree with you 110%

rm_goddess1946 107F
13518 posts
3/5/2006 4:05 pm

Goddess values freedom...and appreciates Warm's posts

Just a little food for thought.............
If you really want to be happy, nobody can stop you...

warmandsexy52 65M
13164 posts
3/5/2006 11:32 am

Woo Hoo saddle! Got it first time! Seventy eight percent of good Chicago people didn't. A BIG reward hug!

Good to find out there's TV in Sask!

warmandsexy52 65M
13164 posts
3/5/2006 11:23 am

Dear sexy, what I despair about is the veiling of cynical pragmatism under an ideological banner and being so arrogant as to think that we won't notice ..... or not much care if we do.

Jeez! I could go off on a rant about this, but for the peace of this neighbourhood in Blogville I'll behave myself.

warmandsexy52 65M
13164 posts
3/5/2006 11:03 am

LT what chance a belief system that is inherently contradictory when it comes up against another that is (insanely) convinced that it is absolutely right and everyone else is wrong? From another perspective in an increasingly uncertain world the voice of certainty has its attractions and, as history teaches us, dangers.

warmandsexy52 65M
13164 posts
3/5/2006 11:00 am

.......and what sort of beings we would become, Tabs.

warmandsexy52 65M
13164 posts
3/5/2006 10:58 am

And may it be meaningful, foxy.

saddletrampsk 55F

3/5/2006 10:27 am

Im not american..but I can name

LustyTaurus 49M
21253 posts
3/5/2006 8:26 am

"FREEDOM" here in the west is a bit of an oxymoron, although I agree with and respect your post.


TabithaElectra79 39F

3/5/2006 6:27 am

I'm not sure we will ever see total freedom, I also wonder what life would be like if we did...

warmandsexy52 65M
13164 posts
3/5/2006 4:57 am

1. Speech
2. Religion
3. Press
4. Assembly
5. Redress of Grievances

What is enshrined in these freedoms is powerful beyond belief. But we should be able to both remember and articulate them.

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