Cigarettes Stink  

vrec_dawn 41M
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7/12/2006 2:36 pm

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7/13/2006 3:56 pm

Cigarettes Stink

Okay, speaking of smoking, here's one that's really got me lately:

The Four Star restaurant in Baraboo, which is an awesome place to eat by the way, has a smoking and a non-smoking section. Which is fine. Unlike most places that do this, the non-smoking section usually isn't so thick with second hand smoke that it ruins all concept of enjoying your food. So it's cool.

But here's the weird thing about it. While they have a smoking section, they specifically only allow smoking of cigarettes. No cigars. No pipes. And I'd assume not even my preference: clove cigarettes. Why? The reason they state is because of complaints about the smell.



??? !!! ???

I mean of all of the things that can be smoked, if I had to pick the absolute worst smelling that I've ever encountered, it would definately be plain old cigarettes. Without question. Not even a remote doubt hiding somewhere deep in the Himalayas. Cigarettes are nasty!

Pipe tobacco and cigars are typically high quality stuff. There are often even flavors (and thus scents) added to make them even more enjoyable. In the world of smoking they're like a fine wine. There are some that I'd consider just burning as incense because they're so yummy. It's like the quality tea, bought in canisters of whole leaves, of the highest quality for the refined taste.

And then there's cigarettes, the ass-end of the quality department. Shredded, cheap, awful, they're there for the cheap fix, not for the thrill. They're like beer. They're like Lipton tea. And most of you buy the absolute damned cheapest nastiest of the lot at that. Let's be honest here: cheap sells, and cheap smells.

Not that there aren't high-end cigarettes. As I said, I've always liked the clove cigarettes myself. And there are certainly others of quality as well. But they're certainly not cheap, and certainly not common.

Sorry, but it's true.

So to any smokers out there, just a point to note: don't think people are oblivious to this. We're not dumb, and our noses aren't broken. That cheap crap that you smoke really does smell bad. It's cheap! It's awful! It's much worse than you believe. While you've been desensitized to that smell, the rest of us haven't. We notice. It stinks. You stink. We're just usually too polite to say it.

Some of you are much better than others. Maybe it's your brand. Maybe you only smoke outside. Maybe you just don't smoke as much. Maybe it's the way your body chemistry reacts. I don't know, but I do know that cigarettes stink.

While the scent-conscious of us bathe regularly, using scented soaps, perfume, cologne, (or in my case scented oils), you on the other hand boldly and obliviously strut your stuff with this stench cloying to your clothes, your hair, even seeping from your every pore. And your only possible saving grace is that the scent just hasn't soaked into you enough to preceed you like (reference Peanuts) Pigpen's ever-present aura.

Smokers of the cheap weed, take a moment to really and truly drop your defensiveness, and just think about it. Do you bathe? Do you use deodorant? Do you spritz with perfume? Do you splash on aftershave? And then do you go and light up? Do you put on clothes that have soaked up your smoke? Uh huh. Might as well have inundated yourself with two-day-old stale beer farts. Cigarettes stink. The rest of us have noticed. We're just polite.

femalesquirter 46F
25 posts
7/12/2006 3:24 pm

Recently, the state of Washington made smoking in bars and restaurants illegal. It was the happiest event of my life! First, I went to my favorite oyster bar and then I went dancing. I stopped going to clubs many years ago because I couldn't stand the way I smelled when I came home. Now I can go anytime I want.

vrec_dawn replies on 7/12/2006 5:48 pm:
Around here, in Madison, something like that was passed too. And while a part of it made me happy, I also think that such an extreme method of banning was a little overboard. As was not warning the businesses first. I know one bar had just installed a super-expensive ventillation system and suddenly bam, smoking ban. All that money to set themself apart from other like businesses, all down the drain.

Personally I don't see why bars at least couldn't have smoking still be legal, but just treat the smoke like the toxin that it is. Require businesses that allow smoking on the premises to carry extra health insurance to cover second-hand smoke damages to employees or some such. And regulate the parts per million as part of the health code. That way busnisses can choose to still allow smoking, if they want to ensure the health of their employees and patrons. Not so sure about restaurants though. I kind of like the permanent smoking ban there.

sexymamma662003 33F

7/12/2006 3:27 pm

while you may say all this about how bad smokers stink. it is hard to quit. very hard!

the way it sounds you really have no idea just what it is like.
but you know what the truth is if we "stink" as you call it. that is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. it is our choice and our choice alone.if you dont like it then dont be by smokers. if they "stink" then move away.

9 out of 10 smokers would rather not smoke at all. but it is easier said then done.

and it isnt cheap weed for 1. it dont get you high like weed does. 2. ciggeretts are not cheap! they acutally cost thousands of dollars a year. if they are cheap i would like to know were the cheap cigarettes are couse then maybe i wouldnt be blowing 4000+ year on the damn things


vrec_dawn replies on 7/12/2006 6:30 pm:
Well, as I posted this I expected that there would be a certain amount of presuming, flaming, and otherwise ignorant responses. Sure enough...

1) I never said that it wasn't hard to quit. While I've never been addicted to nicatine, I certainly have been addicted to other substances, and I know how hard quitting can be. Boo-hoo. It's hard to quit. Cry me a river. If it was easy it wouldn't be worth doing. Women give birth to babies and I can't recall a single one ever saying that it was fun or easy. Yet I also can't recall a single one saying it wasn't worth it all the same.

But for that matter I also never even remotely suggested that anyone should quit. I merely pointed out that cigarettes and the people who smoke them stink. Don't like that? Tough. It's still true. And people really do notice. In that respect it isn't much different from BO, except that BO can't give you cancer.

So if you're a person that cares that people think you stink, maybe then it would be in your interest to consider ways of mitigating that. Such as smoking less, smoking outside, smoking better brands, etc. If you care what people think about you. Certainly in a world of making friends and dating there are some out there that do actually care what people think about them.

It's food for thought. You don't see me balloting for smoking bans do you? No, you don't. I respect people's right to choose. Just as I respect my right to a freedom of speech to complain about the smell. Don't like it? Too bad. To twist your own words against you, if you don't like that, too bad, don't come to my blog. That was your choice.

2) As for it being none of my business if you stink, you're sorely mistaken. If such as through means of employment I'm absolutely forced to work along side of you, regardless of the reason, you can bet it's my business.

But even if I'm not forced to be around you, it's still my business should you walk over and pollute my air. Simply your presence polluting not just your own air, but everyone's air, is everyone's business. If you had any respect for people you'd think about people other than just yourself. Your selfishness in this is just as unflattering as the smell. Congratulations on such antisocial behavior. Your family must be proud.

3) Add carcinogens and toxins to number 2. That is second hand smoke. Now you're not just insuting someone's sensibilities, you're actually actively poisoning them. If I were to put the exact same toxins into a spray bottle of water with the exact same concentration of parts per million, and added an equally sickening stench to it for good measure, and then sprayed it in your face, that would be called assault. I could be arrested for it. That it's somehow perversely still legal to do so with a burning stick, in spite of all of the health evidence, is testament to the power of money to influence government. That however does not make it moral, or social, just legal.

4) I never claimed it was marijuana. I said it was a weed. You certainly won't get high from smoking cinquefoil or dandelions either. Nor, for that matter, from smoking grass. So this specious argument is ignorant at best, and for that matter certainly has no actual bearing on the topic at hand. Had you at least tried to make it funny I could have given you points for humor if nothing else. Too bad you didn't.

5) And the fact that you're too poor to appreciate how inexpensive your cigarettes are compared to quality forms of tobacco is most certainly not my fault. Nor do I care how much money you waste on a completely superfluous habit. That's your choice. If you have a problem with spending that much money on it, then perhaps it's time to do something harder than just posting ignorant complaints to a blog and actually try quitting.

It's not like there aren't significant health and social benefits on top of the money to serve as an incentive to quit smoking. For that matter, from talking to friends who have successfully quit smoking, they also say that smoking damages your taste buds and that once the taste buds get a chance to repair themselves everything even tastes better. I'm not saying you have to quit, or even should. I'm just listing reasons why people find it worth the effort, even with as difficult as it is.

lonely2223 62F

7/12/2006 4:55 pm

well you are right but for me ... as I don't smoke the cigar smell just upset my stomach very bad. Some cigar smell very very bad. But you must remember that smkers don't have the same sense of smell and taste as the ones that don't smoke.THat's is your point of view and this is my and as I was a nurse I know that the smoking afects your taste and smell.

vrec_dawn replies on 7/13/2006 4:01 pm:
There you go, a nurse saying that it screws up your ability to taste and smell.

lonely2223 62F

7/12/2006 4:58 pm

well I am sorry but that is our business as that second hand smoke give us cancers...and that is a very sellfish think to say

vrec_dawn replies on 7/13/2006 4:04 pm:

If it only polluted the smoker, then there'd be no question about it being their and only their business. But it doesn't just affect the smoker. It also affects everyone around them. And the importance of all of those people added together most definately outweighs the importance of any one individual. So that makes it a very selfish opinion to put your one little self ahead of so many people combined.

sexymamma662003 33F

7/12/2006 7:43 pm

hmm well ya know maybe you should re read what i said. i said it was none of your business that smokers stink. i never said it wasnt any of your business that we smoke


vrec_dawn replies on 7/13/2006 4:08 pm:
And maybe you should take your own advice, because if you read what I said then you'd see that I said when you pollute our air as well as your own then you're choosing to make it our business and not just your own, so your opinion there is just simply wrong and selfish.

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