Submissive v. Slave  

rm_txrose4uNTX 59F
5791 posts
5/12/2005 2:39 pm

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Submissive v. Slave

In the same chatting with a friend of mine on line that I have known for quite some time, we discussed the difference between submissive and slave during our ramblings about sex (no cyber sex mind you).

HIM: a good sub does trust.
ME: so I must be a very good sub... lol..
HIM: i bet u are.
HIM: i always thought so.
ME: so.... if you were to be the dominant... what would you have me do???
HIM: first, u would have to submit - assume the positions of submission, prove ur loyalty to me.
HIM: simply by stating ur intentions honestly.
ME: ahhh... ok...
ME: then what???
HIM: and then begins a lifetime of submission - in every case. not just sex,butin ur whole life.
HIM: everything u do, is with my approval and for my/our benefit
ME: oh, really...
ME: like what???
HIM: cooking, cleaning, clothes, work, everything u do on a daily basis. even school.
ME: hhmmmm...
HIM: you agree to submit, i acknowledge that i will do nothing that is not good for u.
HIM: submissiveness is not just sex
ME: ahhh...
ME: and what would you do that was good for me, if you were my dominant, for example???
HIM: take care of u, satisfy ur needs to be submissive, make u feel cherished and wanted, allow u to explore ur life within the bounds established.
ME: hmmmm....
HIM: and there is a difference i think between a submissive and a slave
ME: what do you think that difference is???
HIM: submissives have choices, can make their desires known. slaves have no such thing. they do whatever their DOM says, or face severe punishments
ME: exactly...
HIM: including spanking, caning, whips, flogging
HIM: so are u submissive or do u think u want to be a slave.
HIM: honestly, i know u are not slave material
ME: honestly, I know that too....

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Has anyone really explored the realm of dominancy and submissiveness???? I would like to hear your thoughts.

Being very curious.......


zpto2 45M
1 post
6/2/2005 11:14 am

Gostaria de poder conervsar em ingles, bjs


HughJarse2000 48M

5/13/2005 6:53 am

Hey - just opinion here ok?

If you place a post up like this , one assumes, you are interested in comments/response. As usual 425 views and only "smileguy" to comment (well done that man BTW). So here's mine.

Strikes me that there are levels to this. I am comfortable with bedroom level dominance only. I have a natural respect for my fellow man and woman. I can act out fantasies in the bedroom based on disrespect and dominance, only because outside of that arena I can quickly re-instate a respectful equal place with that partner.

I see the whole exercise as being one that builds trust. Trust is a loving building block.

But to live a world of service in real slave/sub tones is to have an unhealthy desire to build trust, to need to trust . It wreaks of poor self worth, loneliness, and maybe self hatred. But certainly (IMH a lack of trust in oneself, such that there is a cheaper pay off in placing trust of oneself in the hands of another, as a dedicated life choice. It seems to imply that an individual is so doubtful of their ability to control their own life that it is "safer" to hand that control over to another head.

Whilst I would like to remain objective and respectful of others that make such a choice, I can not. This is similar to acknowledging a minimum age of consent. Most of us would agree that a 13 year old is simply not capable of making wise descisions about their body, sexuality, health etc. Someone who is offering up their body, sexuality, health in service of a "dom". to be controlled by another person for domination or slavery is stating to the world - I am not capable of making decisions for myself.

This person requires help, support , education and love. Not the domination that they so inappropriately seek.

Some people can be so damaged by their journey in life that they will give away that one very human notion of "free will" that remains, as it is often the last that they have to give when the world has already stripped them of everything else. These people need building up not taking over.

Buyer beware !!!!!
Hugh


rm_Unique541 43M

5/13/2005 2:57 am

I can't help but wonder if too much of a good thing can be bad. I mean dom/sub role-playing sounds like it would be fun and erotic, but I don't think that I could live the lifestyle that your friend seems to be talking about.
Giving over, and having control over someone would be freeing in a way. I think I even read somewhere that the Dom's mindset has to be completely focused on the Sub's wants and needs. Damn, I'm babbling again. *Grin*


rm_txrose4uNTX 59F
3289 posts
5/12/2005 7:43 pm

Yeah, I have to agree with you, smileguy... It does seem a bit too extreme and "deep" what this guy is talking about... My thought exactly. Any way to know where to draw the lines????


smileguyqc 54M

5/12/2005 5:46 pm

Giggle, your pictures just keep getting better and better, you have a wonderful smile and what you are showing above is wonderfully sexy


smileguyqc 54M

5/12/2005 5:44 pm

I've only read about it and tried a little of the sexual side of things, but as you mention it can go very deep, you would have to think the kind of submission you talk about here can't be healthy. Essentially you are someones slave!!!


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