NIGGA ! (noun)........................  

rm_navi504 47M
39 posts
6/19/2006 9:42 am

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NIGGA ! (noun)........................

AS PROMISED, IM BACK TO HOLLA AT ALL Y'ALL ABOUT THAT NIGGA WORD. NAH OFTEN YOU MIGHT HEAR ME SAYIN IT OR YOU MAY HERE IT IN GENERAL CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN BLACK PEOPLE. BUT IT IS A "UNDERSTANDING" WORD THAT NOT EVERYONE CAN USE.
LET ME EXPLAIN.

IF YOU GREW UP IN ANY URBAN COMMUNITY (HOOD)WITHIN THE UNITED STATES, YOU WILL HEAR THIS WORD USED ON A DAILY BASIS. IE. (DAT NIGGA IS CRAZY, AW NIGGA YOU DOWN BAD!!!!, WHAT'S UP MY NIGGA?, DAM NIGGA, YOU DID THAT!".

AND IT'S USUALLY USED IN A "GOOD" WAY AMONG THE BLACK CULTURE AS A FRIENDLIER TERM THAN, LET'S SAY IN THE 50'S, 60'S, AND TO SOME EXTENT UP TO THE PRESENT. IT DEPENDS BASICALLY ON HOW IT'S USED, HOW IT IS DELIVERED, AND IT'S INTENT.

LET ME GO FURTHER

IF I'M IN THE HOOD OR TALKING WITH A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, NIGGA IS NOT A BAD WORD BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY LIKE SAYING "DAWG" "BRA" "HOMIE" "POTNA" YA KNOW, IN A FRIENDLY WAY, WHERE AS THERE'S NO REASON FOR ME TO BE OFFENDED BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT BEING USED A DEROGATORY WAY.

NAH, HERE'S WHERE WHITE PEOPLE MAY NOT UNDERSTAND. IF YOU WHITE, AND YOU HAVE GREW UP WITH OR HAVE HUNG AROUND BLACK PEOPLE ENOUGH TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE AND YOU HAVE BASICALLY BEEN EXCEPTED AS A "WIGGER" (WHITE NIGGER, IMAGINE THAT!) THEN THE USE OF THE NIGGA WORD PROBABLY WONT GET YOU FUCKED UP.

BUT IF YOU'RE A "REDNECK" AND YOU'RE INVOLVED IN A VERBAL ALTERCATION WITH A PERSON OF COLOR AND THE WORD "NIGGA" COMES OUT YOUR MOUTH.......YOU DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR ASS WHIPPED. SEE IT'S THE INTENT. THE INTENT IS TO DEMEAN, AND NOT USED IN A FRIENDLY, JOKINGLY WAY, BUT IN A WAY TO DEGRADE ANOTHER PERSON, WHICH THEN BRINGS US TO THE SPECTRUM OF "R.E.S.P.E.C.T."

NAH WHETHER YOU BLACK, WHITE, HISPANIC, ASIAN, OR WHATEVER, YOU WANNA BE RESPECTED AS A PERSON. AND WHEN ANY PERSON ATTEMPTS TO DEMEAN ANOTHER THEN YOU ASKIN FOR TROUBLE.

BUT LOOK AT LIKE THIS:

WHITE PEOPLE ARE CALLED: REDNECK, HONKIE, WHITE TRASH, CRACKER

ASIAN PEOPLE ARE CALLED: GOOKS, CHINKS, RICE PATTY

HISPANICS ARE CALLED: WETBACKS, BEAN EATERS, EBI EBI, SPICS.

YOU GET THE PICTURE? NOW I'M MORE THAN SURE IF YOU CALL ANY ONE OF THESE GROUPS ONE OF THESE NAMES TO THEIR FACE, YOU "WILL" HAVE A PROBLEM.

IT'S JUST THAT WHEN IT'S USED ACCORDING TO BLACK PEOPLE IT'S PERPETUATED, BECAUSE OF PAST ERAS IN AMERICAN HISTORY (SLAVERY, CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT).

NOW, I KNOW I MAY LOSE SOME OF MY READERS BECAUSE IM SPEAKING ON A "TOUCHY" TOPIC, AND IF YOU DECIDE TO STOP READING (HONESTLY) FUCK YA! BUT I FEEL IN ORDER TO REMEDY THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE TO DISCUSS THE PROBLEM AND FIND A COMPRIMISING SOLUTION. PROPLE USE SLANGS EVERYDAY, AND MOST OF THEM COME FROM THE "NIGGA CULTURE" (IF YOU WIL. IT'S USE BY WHITE PEOPLE (WASSUP DAWG, SAY PLAYA, YO SHAWTY, WHAT DA DEAL IS ETC.) I HAVE EVEN HEARD ON THE DREW CAREY SHOW, ONE OF IT'S CAST MEMBERS SAYIN "I NEED A HOT GIRL!" (CASH MONEY RECORDS SONG "I NEED A HOT GIRL").

IF THE BLACK CULTURE WAS SO FUCKED UP, YOU WOULDNT HAVE WHITE KIDZ TRYING THEIR HARDEST TO BE BLACK, OR DOING THING THAT'S USUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE BLACK CULTURE (BRAIDS (WTF), GOLDS, FIXIN THEY RIDES UP LIKE BLACKS, SPORTING ROC-A-WEAR, SEAN JOHN, TOMMY HIL, WEARING THE FIFTY-FIFTY BRIMS, G-NIKES, BUMPIN IN THEIR RIDES, TRYING TO DO ALL THE BLACK DANCES, THE WHOLE THANG). FEEL ME?

NAH, EVEN THOUGH I GREW UP IN THE PROJECT, AND SHOULD HAVE ANOMOSITY TOWARDS WHITE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT WERE DONE TO US (ME AND MY FRIENDS) AS KIDS, YOUNG TEENAGERS, ADULTS BY WHITE POLICEMEN, I DONT. I LOOK AT IT AS YOU HAVE BAD APPLES EVERYWHERE AND I CANT JUDGE A WHOLE RACE OR CULTURE OF PEOPLE BASED ON WHAT ONE INDIVIDUAL HAS DONE. EVEN THOUGH WHEN I RUN ACROSS ONE THAT HAS IT ON HIS MIND......THEN SO DO I.

DO I CONSIDER MYSELF A N.I.G.G.A.? YEP! BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IM BLACK (WELL CUBAN, INDIAN, AND CREOLE........BLACK!) I AM N-NEVER I-IGNORANT G-GETTING G-GOALS A-ACCOMPLISHED. AND ALSO I AM A NIGGA IN THE "WHITE" SENSE OF THE WORD SIMPLY BECAUSE I'AM A MAN WHO WILL BE RESPECTED AS SUCH "BY ANY MEANS NESSECARY" AT "ALL COST".

PLEASE DONT TAKE THIS PERSONAL FOR I AM NOT MADD WITH ANYONE, BUT IT HAS TO BE EXLPLAINED. I HAVE WENT AS FOR AS GIVING YOU THE DEFINITION AS IT IS STATED IN THE DICTIONARY AS:

NIGGER (nig-ger)(noun):
1. (ethnic slur) offensive name for a Black person; "only a Black can call another Black a nigga" [syn: nigga, spade, coon, jigaboo, nigra]

2. Used as a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people.

BUT AS FAR AS MY OWN PERSONAL MEANING OF THE WORD "NIGGA" IT NEVER BOTHERED ME. ANY RACE MEMBER CAN BE A "NIGGA" IN MY BOOK! I KNOW I'M NOT WHAT RACIST WHITES OR OTHERS CONSIDER AS A "NIGGA", ALTHOUGH I CAN BE VERY IGNORANT "IF" THE SITUATION ARISES. AND IN ADDITION, I HAVE A TRUE, REALISTIC, UNDERSTANDING OF THE USE OF THE WORD AS IT WAS WRITTEN BY FAMOUS BLACK AUTHOR JAMES BALDWIN (HARLEM RENNAISANCE WRITER);"You can only be destroyed by believing that you really are what the white world calls a nigger”.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, PEACE! AND I'M OUT.........NIGGAS! LOL


DIVISION77 41M
8337 posts
6/19/2006 10:11 am

You're not what I term "black".

You're a mix, but I'd see you as Latino simply due to your Cuban blood.

Depends if you speak the language or not.

I use the term "nigga" when speaking with people I know, certain circumstances.

There are people I know at the gym who speak strictly in ebonics and that's how they expect to be spoken to, so I respect that.

I don't go up to people I don't know and start out that way.

Where I'm at, even the wiggers don't use "nigga".

It's something that never sounds right coming out of a white person's mouth.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


rm_navi504 replies on 6/19/2006 10:44 am:
EXACTLY, WHEN YOU SEE A WHITE PERSON SAYIN "NIGGA" IT'S FUNNY/ODD. TO SEE A VIETNAMESE USE IT IS EVEN ODDER. AND ALTHOUGH I'M A MIX OF NATIONALITIES MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE SAYS "BLACK", BECAUSE MY MOTHER IS "CREOLE" WHICH IS ANOTHER TERM IN THA SOUTH FOR A LIGHT SKINNED BLACK. MY DAD IS CUBAN, AND AMERICAN INDIAN. I SPEAK BOTH LANGUAGES, BUT YOUR TERM "EBONICS" IS ONLY A LABEL PUT ON THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AS IT IS SPOKEN IN THE HOOD, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF SLANGS AND BROKEN ENGLISH! BUT I DID FINISH HIGH SCHOOL AND DID SOME COLLEGE, SO EXCUSE ME IF I ARTICULATE MY WORDS A LIL BETTER.

BUT THEN AGAIN YOU'RE ON THE WEST COAST, SO I UNDERSTAND, I LIVED IN L.A. FOR A MIN. AND THE LINGO IS DIFFERENT OUT THERE AS WELL.

rm_saintlianna 46F
15466 posts
6/19/2006 10:36 am

    Quoting DIVISION77:
    You're not what I term "black".

    You're a mix, but I'd see you as Latino simply due to your Cuban blood.

    Depends if you speak the language or not.

    I use the term "nigga" when speaking with people I know, certain circumstances.

    There are people I know at the gym who speak strictly in ebonics and that's how they expect to be spoken to, so I respect that.

    I don't go up to people I don't know and start out that way.

    Where I'm at, even the wiggers don't use "nigga".

    It's something that never sounds right coming out of a white person's mouth.

    DIV
It's something that never sounds right coming out of a white person's mouth.

Shit, aint that the truth.

HOLLA


DIVISION77 41M
8337 posts
6/19/2006 11:00 am

The WestCoast is a whole different flow.

Hispanics and Blacks tend to clash, there are some truces but it depends on the area.

I see the Dirty South as kind of backwards...

They aren't taken seriously by either the West or East.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


willing2tryit42 41M
1141 posts
6/19/2006 11:22 am

Well I can honestly say I dont use the word in any context, due to the fact that I am now involved with rescue operations in most refineries : and they all have some bullshit rule against "People Incidents"! The use of( written or verbal) any word phrase or symbol used to demean, or insult another contractor is strictly prohibited! Even when such use was meant in a "joking" fashion: THIS WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE TERMINATION! Yeah I get into trouble tellin jokes all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MissKittyNip26 107F

6/19/2006 2:18 pm

Awww.. Navi.. you know you my nigga maaan! LOL! I know I already discussed this on the phone with you, but I'm writin' it too! When I grew up in the "hood", yes.. my white ass used to say "nigga" like it was goin' outta style. But.. I was so accepted in the black community, it never really was an issue. Hell, I've even had to have people talk to my momma to confirm that I wasn't even black (they just really thought I was one of them.. or at least mixed). But anyway, everyone I knew used the word, so it just seemed natural. It wasn't until I actually got around OTHER white people that I realized it just didn't seem right hearing them say the word.. then when I moved to another state (with NEW people that weren't used to me), it came up as an issue a couple of times. I remember a night of drinkin'/playin' cards with my man and his friends.. out of sheer habit, I said some comment using the word ( such as "Aww..that nigga just cut the fuck out yo' ass!" ). One of the guys just looked at me crazy.. I didn't even realize I had said it.. that's how natural it was. Well, we ended up discussin' it and he understood my use of it, but he did let me know that now that I was around unfamiliar black people (especially in racist ass Louisiana), that I may wanna try to drop that habit. SO.. I DID! I have now suppressed that word SO much that I hardly ever say it.. but if I'm REAL comfortable with someone (and they regularly use it), it may slip out every once in a blue moon.

I still deal with this issue at my work though.. because most all of my students use the word and each year it's always an "issue", because different teachers view it differently.. and some allow it, whereas some punish it. I've seen teachers get students that are playin' ball at recess and they overhear one of them say, "Pass the ball nigga!".. they'll punish and put them on the fence! I SO disagree with that. To me, that's punishing a cultural/home/language thing. "Home" is their first teacher and if parents and siblings speak in such a way, then that should be respected/built upon.. not knocked on. This is part of the reason why black students are FAILING in "white favored institutions" such as the public school system! They don't feel respected or acknowledged and therefore, they act out and don't care to be there. Anyway, I've always allowed my students to speak FREELY at school (as long as their not hurting others).

Ok.. so, let me get off my soapbox..lol. Interesting post..


qyxx 61F
3334 posts
6/19/2006 3:20 pm

When I was growing up, it was an integral part of my vocabulary. But I was around black folks for the most part. I think it went back to us having a shared experience and we all could relate to certain things. But as I got older, say mid 20s, it gradually faded from my vocabulary, although I still use it from time to time, but only with people I feel totally comfortable with; I guess I resorted to my roots. However, if I heard it from a white or nonblack, instant attitude; it's just a gut thing for me.

Q.


rm_AnOddGirl 58F
3469 posts
6/19/2006 8:31 pm

A woman I work with (for over 13 years) black, born and raised in New Orleans once told me I should have been a black woman, I said well, if you remove our outer peel, we're all the same color inside - blood red.
She also told me of the 'paper bag' test (still in use in some bars) - if you were darker than the bag you weren't let in! She also said thats how yard/field versus house slaves were chosen. She answered these questions after I saw Spike Lee's 'School Daze', (what a fucking eye opener that movie was!) I ran to her cos I was under the impression that blacks were NOT prejudice against their own race. A wonderful guy that I work with (true Creole) told me that when his sister was at Dillard she would have been homecoming queen except that year, Dark was In.

Me, I'm not prejudice, I hate everyone equally! LOL



Odds


TurnLock 61M
577 posts
7/2/2006 5:44 am

Nigger was a demeaning term for lazy, shiftless individuals. White folks were call niggers for being lazy. Since it meant lazy, the white masters used it to refer to the slaves that they felt were lazy, they were niggardly and the definition stuck on blacks. The ghetto endearment of the word nigga, I have never liked and never will. I don't see it as an empowerment, but that's me. I understand your use of the word and I'm not at issue with it that's the current slang. As with all slang it will be replaced in time and become a non-issue for me. Kinda like when we was colored,afro-americans, blacks. I don't know what the hell we are now, I'm assuming black.


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