Yet Another Disorder  

rm_hotmamaNcols 40F
460 posts
6/10/2006 8:35 am

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Yet Another Disorder


Geez. It seems people have lost the concept of accepting responsibility. Not only do some laws have enough loops holes to rarely get convictions, we all can declare insanity as part of our legal defense. Victims are violated and hurt further by a legal system which is suppose to protect the innocent.

Here is yet another disorder added to the already long list of disorders:

Intermittent Explosive Disorder is where a person has defined episodes of violence precipitated by little provocation. These episodes begin and end very abruptly, but may last for hours. During an episode, the person experiences urges to break objects, feel confusion or suffer from amnesia. After the act however, they do display remorse and assume responsibility, generally.
----------World Health Organization & CDC


In the (US)military, IED means Improvised Explosive Device or Booby Trap. Funny, isn't it?Doesn't this sound similar to all the other disorders? By the way, this is the new root cause for Road Rage.

Why is it that more and more children are being diagnosed with ADHD and sedated with medications instead of given structure, discipline, and a routine? Because we have lazy parents who would rather the TV raise their children. Why do you think "The Nanny" is so popular here in the states, when all parents should have known the structure and discipline tactics she teaches prior to deciding to create life?

Why is it that in my life time, there have been 30+ disorders discovered? Because psychiatrists need to discover disorders to keep getting funding for their causes and to keep the steady roster on their daily appointments sheet. They also need the income from all of the pharmaceutical companies making billions. Because people don't WANT to accept responsibility for their own actions and would rather be labeled versus going to jail.

From a legal aspect, its a ticket to a mental hospital instead of the chair. But my question is this: Why wasn't Dahmer sent to a mental institution? He was a clinical schizophrenic, hearing voices and all. Why are some sent to the chair and others sent to the loony bins? I say, if you make an exception for those with psychiatric issues, why not the serial killers and too? A person who crashes a van into a crowd of kindergartners during a "mental break down" or road rage episode is better than a serial killer/ and should get some leniency? Ha! But they do!!!

I believe there are valid disorders out there. But for one to blame their actions on some disorder is disturbing. If that's the new thing to do, hell I could have gone on a murderous rampage 2 1/2 years ago and blamed it on the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder I was diagnosed with. But did I? No. I CHOSE to control my anger, and worked thru my issues. Would I have gotten away with it? Sadly, yes. With a well paid attorney, and my past and medical history, yes, I would have.


BTW- I've been collecting signatures the last few days in my free time so I had no energy to blog.

im_your_man77 40M
961 posts
6/10/2006 12:44 pm

Most of the time its not the individual that blames an act on a disorder but the Defence Lawyer. Unfortunately it is all too easy for a Defence Lawyer to find an 'expert' that will argue that a disorder exists and that someone is a sufferer of that disorder, and then the Prosecution Lawyer can all too easily find an 'expert' thats says a disorder doesn't exist. Whilst money can be made arguing both cases you will always find experts who will argue either way.

Over on this side of the pond not so many kids are diagnosed with ADHD and given medicine for treatment probably because over here the National Health Service which is paid for by the state and not by insurance. The state funded service doesn't have endless amounts of money to exhaust so it has to be careful where the money is spent and has to be convinced that A) a disorder exists and that a drug will be beneficial. Whereas in America healthcare is paid for by insurance, this is a better funded system but it is also more wasteful. With it being a better funded system it allows more drugs companies to do research, more research leads to new drugs.

Doctors today can't keep uptodate with the number of the drugs that are coming on the market, doctors don't have time to research the benefits of this or that drug on each patient with this or that disease. Doctors are too busy with their patients to do all the research that would be required for such work therefore they often rely on the doctors that go to the trade shows of the drug companies. A doctor that has the time to go to the trade shows learns about all the new drugs that are coming on to the market, these drugs haven't always passsed the safety certificates at this stage but nonetheless the drug companies do their best to convince the doctors of their drug. Often the drug companies will give the doctors some sort of reward for taking the time and trouble of listening to them speak. They might get a new briefcase or even a weekend holiday just for listening. Whilst they have that captured audience the drug companies have that time to convince a few hundred doctors of the merits of their drug. Sometimes its a new drug for an old disease, but other times it can be a new drug for an old symptom that has no previous known treatment.

All these drug companies need to do is to convince a few of those doctors to think of a few patients that may have the symptoms that their drug is designed to help. If they manage to achieve that goal of getting a few doctors to try the drug and these doctors in turn are then convinced that the drug is beneficial to their patients, other doctors who don't have the time to read every medical journal will hear of the drug and its benefits from eventually hear about the drug through word of mouth. The most powerful advertisement is word of mouth especially by doctors and especially if you are a doctor yourself you are going to at least listen what your collegues say.

It doesn't take long for a new disorder to be diagnosed once there is a supposed cure for its symptoms. If a drug is associated with a symptom its only common sense that a doctor doing the best with their patient will consider it as a form of treatment. The danger lies in the fact that a doctor doesn't have time to fully research its benefits and use of best practice, the doctor often has to take the advice of previous doctors and or the drug company itself. Its easy enough for doctors to find patients that have the symptoms that the drug supposedly helps, otherwise the drug would never have been invented in the first place. You don't create a drug if there is no potential profit.

Eventually other patients get to hear of the new drug that can cure their symptoms which then gets the ball rolling yet faster. Before long there is a disorder that can be cured by a wonder drug and more and more people are diagnosed with it. Unfortunaely that leads to more people using the drug when there is no benefit for them, often the drugs can have side effects or they may make the problem worse by being addictive.

Once their is a drug that is associated as a treatment for a symptom then there can be a compelling case to make a new disorder which ultimately can lead to more people using that as a defence for breaking the law.

People seem to have forgotten what the Law is. The Law is a set of rules which we all have a responsibility to follow because without rules we could all do whatever we liked and ultimately there would be chaos. The law is a set of rules put in place so that we can remain courteous to one another. We have rules regarding speeding for example so that there aren't as many accidents on the road. If I am caught speeding its only fair that I am punished for doing so if others have kept to the speed limit. That argument holds true if we suffer from a disorder and we commit a crime due to having that disorder. Having a disorder should not be a defence in itself. There may be a case for arguing after someone has been sentenced that perhaps someone could have diagnosed the disorder but nonetheless the crime has been committed and in our law system there must be a price paid for that crime.

Personally I'd much rather see a law system that was based more on prevention rather than on incrimination but we have to work with the system as it is designed, right now it seems to be doing neither. I put the failures of the law system just less down to the Defence using 'experts' to diagnose disorders for their clients (they are paid to give their clients the best defence possible), but more down to the power of the drug companies ability to convince us that these disorders exist and are treatable.

Over here ADHD and the like are only relatively new disorders and so mostly kids behaviour is put down to bad parenting and therefore kids don't get drugs as treatment, however slowly that is beginning to change because we are being influenced by America, either by television, or by American drug companies seeing us as a fresh virgin market to exploit.

Holy hell I wrote an essay and I don't have time to check for errors, my apologies.


rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 6/12/2006 8:28 am:
Geez, you blogged on my blog!! LOL!!

slimcountryboy2 39M
46 posts
6/10/2006 4:47 pm

FYI... There is no such thing as "temporary insanity" , "road rage" or anything of the sort. These are merely excuses for the people who are too imature or who weren't raised properly, who can't control their temper when things don't go there way... You know, there have been pleanty of times that I said to myself "I want to kill that fucker!" . But do I? No ....

On a different note... My son is unfortuanately one of those kids that is on meds... Not really by my choice... But not much I'm going to do to fight it... She has custody now, I can't change it. There are viable disorders and problems out there, but I dont think he really has enough of a problem to warrent medication.


rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 6/12/2006 8:40 am:
If it were up to the school system, my son (age 5) would've been on meds. I knew he was displaying behavior in school, that he would never in my home. So what does this mother do? I volunteered in his class twice a week. I had a long talk with the teacher about my expectations and we worked together in his discipline. If he acted up in school, she had my cell phone number and I would immediately talk to him. After a few phone calls and after taking away some privileges for his wrongdoings in school, AMAZINGLY it stopped. I'm sorry your son was put on meds. You know I already don't think highly of your ex, and now I think less of her!! That decision, even though she has full custody, SHOULD have had your input.

out_for_a_ride 36M

6/10/2006 5:51 pm

there is no illness the body can not over come through the focus of thought projection....but one has to believe, take a leap of faith, and shoulder the burden of what it takes to overcome such a disposition.

no worries dearest, you post when you're good and ready, we'll still be here listening.

hope you're off to a good start this weekend.


rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 6/12/2006 8:47 am:
Unfortunately, we have a microwave society. Instead of using the stove, we microwave. Then we complain about how awful it was and how we missed a home cooked meal, and how we should have cooked instead....
It was a good weekend, thanks.

rm_jd29992z 55M
3888 posts
6/11/2006 11:52 pm

Oh how right you are!!!! You see there are these people getting out of collage that have to have a theses and all the good ones have been taken so they make one up and now we have a new disorder. Well a long time ago a friend of mine came up with the perfect explanation. Asshole rule! why do we have to have locks on our doors? It is not because every one wants to go into our houses or cars it is because of the asshole they want to so assholes rule. I can go on and on every law on the books is because of some asshole! Maybe we should just round up all the assholes and put them on some island somewhere and let them be assholes to each other! Hmmmmm that makes too much sence they have to make excuses for them just to justify the brain twisters existence. Sad when you think about it Later girl JD


rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 6/12/2006 8:53 am:
If we did, we'd eventually have to war with them. Because they would find a way to fuck with us over here.

3d60 49M

6/12/2006 4:01 pm

JD you tempt me to name the island but that would be an asshole thing to do..I like your logic, your right.... but it also has to be said society progressively nurtures and produces those assholes. We even elect them ( nuff said )

Drugs to curb a child's natural raw energy and spirit...to borrow from the host, microwave kids...half baked, denatured, bland..We teach kids to hate learning, we demand respect in a fraudulent and deeply corrupt adult world and then to top it off we force their new brave fresh minds to conform debase themselves to the almighty exam. No wonder original thought is dying and apathy and unrest is multiplying. the cynical could say they want us dumb and numb......Drugs are great at that.....whether a cathode ray or a sugar saturated soft drink.

Its all wrong....kids should go to school to discover learning through what they want to do, I know that kids are hugely turned on by their own learning, look at the artistry in skateboarding for one. When they get what learning can do for them man there is no stopping them..

Thanks for putting what you aired to me out there...look what intelligent heartfelt response you have engendered. Yet again I'm proud of your stance, glad you can make how you want life for you and your kids work!!...realizing the concentrated juv is the way forward for transatlantic delivery...consider it in the mail All me juv me XX


rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 6/12/2006 6:22 pm:
I appreciate and feel all of your transatlantic love, 3d. Sometimes at the end of the day, a pat on the back telling me to keep up the good work drives me to do more. Which island is that? LOL!!

jadedbabe78 107F

6/12/2006 6:06 pm

Why is it that more and more children are being diagnosed with ADHD and sedated with medications instead of given structure, discipline, and a routine

We live in an age where everyone wants a quick fix. A child is no longer allowed to be 'spirited', active, thin, and useful. They are suppose to be lazy, fat, mellow, and out of the way for the most part.

Hence, the over-diagnosis of ADHD.

It's a bunch of BS.

20 years ago, it was something of a rarity for a child to be diagnosed with ADHD. Why? Because most kids played outside (I know I did), parents were more involved, and the school system didn't expect the kids to just show up, sit down, shut up, and learn. They actually wanted INVOLVEMENT.

It's sad, the over-medicating of children to make adult lives easier. It is such crap. I've had some adult tell me that my oldest spawn has ADHD. I told them to piss off. He'll direct his energy into sports when he's older instead of video games.

I'd rather have a spirited, active child who is a pain in my ass now then a fat, lazy teenager who won't get off his ass to see daylight, ya know? And that is what happens with these kids.

I truly believe some children DO have ADHD....but not in the numbers that have been diagnosed with it.

And I do believe in some of the disorders out there. But some are such crap. It makes me want to slap these so called doctors upside the head and ask them 'What the fuck!!???!!'. It gives people excuses to do and act as they wish and that's dangerous.

It's asking for trouble.


rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 6/12/2006 6:37 pm:
My "spawn" are excellent kids, because I allow them to be brilliant in their own ways. One a paleontologist, one a cook, one a muralist. If they need or want to steal the show, I'm all for it given it is productive and good for the self esteem. I encourage their known abilities. I allow them to think on their own with open ended questions. We talk. I tell them everyday how special they are to me. And when they are getting on my LAST nerve, I find some outside activity to completely exhaust them and have some inner child fun myself.
Neighborhood children tend to migrate to my yard, and some are devils at home, but almost angelic here. One parent even forewarned me of her child's disorder but amazingly, he shows no signs of it here. "Oh, he did that because he's got ADD" is the reasoning within earshot. Yeah right. I want to say "Give him an excuse to turn out will ya?"

p33c3y0 43M

6/12/2006 7:40 pm

hey .... could you quiet down about this ... i have some drug patents winding their way through the system right now ...


LadytoPleaseYou 65F
5447 posts
6/12/2006 9:42 pm

it's all in the mind....

PENIS CHARMING....where are you?


im_your_man77 40M
961 posts
6/13/2006 5:52 am

"Geez, you blogged on my blog!!"

Let that be a lesson to you, don't get me started!

The thing with ADHD is that its not a disability (I'm off again ) Its an ability to be more active. ADHD tends be excess excess energy which if harnished the right way in, say sports, dance or whatever can be expressed in a positive manner. (I'll stop now. )


3d60 49M

6/14/2006 2:48 pm

muralist is that code for grafitti artist, street artist for a current overveiw and amazing collection of art out there on the worlds streets juv me XX


rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 6/14/2006 11:54 pm:
Actually, it is mostly sidewalk chalk right now.

rm_KooKurt 47M

7/8/2006 1:33 am

would you be my lady? and we can move on from there.


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