Human Beings...What Can You Say?  

rm_Kissmystuff 62F
2665 posts
5/20/2006 1:01 pm

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Human Beings...What Can You Say?

Sometimes in going to the different blogs..reading..about how some bigot came along and caused hurt..trying to spread their makes one wonder. After my initial anger..I become sad. All of so unnecessary.

I've noticed that these sites..really do reflect..what goes on in the outside world. There are those people out there..shriveled souls..who operate from a place of fear..who feel it necessary to strike out and blame others for their lacking.

Some years ago..I did some free lance writing for a local newspaper. One of the stories I did related to police brutality. My research showed that people of color..were systematically stopped more often than others. That they were more often arrested..and brutalized than others. That they were more likely to be sentenced to prison than others. That information is still reflected in more recent studies that have been done.

There was one incident..that took place in Philadelphia, PA..that was caught on camera by a local man..shooting for a PSA (public service announcement). A Native American man had been shot by the police. The camera picked up..cops..walking up and down that fire escape..kicking the man..some hit him with their clubs. They never called for care for this man. The man laid there for over two hours. He bled to death. The off scott free. And..I'm're all familiar with the Rodney King case.

Yesterday..listening to the radio..I heard again..a news item..regarding African American Chicago who have a suit against the police..charging them with torture. Stories like this are not new. These things have been happening for generations in this country. If you're African American..Native may well have experienced some of this treatment yourself.

A reign of America's own home grown terrorists..lasted for generations in this country..namely..the Ku Klux Klan. People and women. Sometimes..such events were treated like a family outing. People would pack a picnic lunch and bring their kids to the "festivities". Sometimes whole towns were destroyed by rampaging white mobs. This has happened quite a few times in the history of this country. The last reported incidence of a black man being hung..took place maybe a year ago. Wasn't that long ago..that a black man was dragged behind a truck..for miles along a country road.

While many whites have stood up and spoken out and stood side by side with people of color to stop these things from happening..I have to wonder..what about the rest of you? Every time you laugh at a racist encourage the racists. Every hear someone make a racist stereotypical statement and don't correct give silent agreement to that statement.

Have things improved in the last some extent. But you still have..suburban schools funded much more generously than urban schools. You still have red lining when it comes to insurance companies..and mortgages for home buying. You still have real estate agents selling homes to minorities..only in certain sections of a city. You still have bigotry in the work place and the hiring. I could go on and on.

A couple of years ago..I decided to leave my car parked..and caught the bus downtown. Some little kid..looked me in the face..and asked his mother.."why are black people here?" As I looked at him in shock..then looked around at some of the other passengers..mostly white..not one person was willing to look me in the eye. Not one person had anything to say. I looked hard at look back at me. In fact..she looked rather glad that he had said it. Sad..that parents fill their children with hate..and use the kids to express it..when they don't have the guts.

One thing that particularly makes me wonder. The voting rights act..was recently renewed for another 25 years. Tell me..why is it..that every other group in this country..if born a citizen automatically has the right to vote? But African Americans..have to have a every twenty five have the right to vote? Even people not born in this country..who become citizens..automatically have that right..till the day they die.

While I really do accept people for who they are..rather than judge by the color of their their becomes a bit difficult sometimes. Is it fair?..hum..that's debatable. But..Given the record..of the white race as a this country..from my is very difficult to trust..but I try.

Artwork: "Black and White".. by Alice Neel


puntachueca 106M

5/20/2006 4:03 pm

Right On Sister!
It is the god's truth that white people in general discriminate against people of color in this country. A lot of it is "unconscious"...the depth of racism is hard for people to become aware of. Test after test shows this.
One of the best antidotes is for white folks to experience being on the wrong side of the stick a while.
The other is to get out of one's little safe world and really get to know different people. Get invited to their homes. Share their happiness and sorrow. Eath their food. Learn to sing their songs. Listen to their stories. Learn to see the world from a new vantage point than the one you were grownup into.
He says this having just been followed for 20 miles by a Border Patrol agent who "profiled" him for acting "suspiciously".
Gee..I was wearing a white straw cowboy hat (like a lot of Mexican workers wear around here), I was driving a white SUV (which smugglers use around here) and I was driving around a rich neighborhood slowly (because I am in charge of constructing a sewer line down the middle of the street and was checking trench compaction).


I actually wrote a guide on "how to avoid being shot by the cops" for those of us who live under constant doubt. Google will find it.

elysianpleasure 48M

5/20/2006 11:11 pm

The problem is with people... not just white people... or any other kind. We have done our share of bad stuff... I am ashamed of it. But I am not ashamed of it because I am white. I don't even think of myself as white. I think of myself as human... and we all have our prejudice if it isn't one thing it another. I try to recognize mine... and overcome them.

8337 posts
5/21/2006 4:44 am

This is probably the deepest post I've read from you.

It cuts deep and I have seen some of the silent implicitness that you speak of.

It's not blatant, but still there.

That child saying "Why are black people here?" is what I am talking about.

When people can't give you eye contact it speaks volumes as to their mindstate, their invisible boundaries and their partiality on the issue.

I know things like this go on and in a way it is more painful than to hear someone call me a racial slur.

If someone hates me because of my ethnicity, I at least know where they stand.

If someone stays quiet while someone else does it, the real ambiguity begins.

That stain is something that will probably never wash away from this country.

Am I jaded? Perhaps.

Justified? I think so.


"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur

bigknob1958 54M

5/21/2006 10:26 am

Entirely unrelated but I've just seen the last 20 mins or so of that sci-fi film you talked about a while ago "solyent green" I think it was called...from what I saw it is an undiscovered minor classic.I will be buying the DVD next week."People,solyent green is people" fantastic stuff.

rm_FreeLove999 47F
16127 posts
5/21/2006 11:40 am

it is incredibly depressing. on numerous occassions i have had white people make racist "jokes" to me on the assumption that since i am white, i won't mind and will find it funny! (i always respond saying quite clearly that i don't find such things funny and that i am offended that they could think i am a racist just by looking at me.) in south africa, i pretty much shun white society because if find it's slick of everything looking nice (houses that look like something out of a magazine, etc) just covering deep-seated prejudices quite nauseating.

it makes life pretty alien for me, because however much i wish to be different, how i am seen to be is often more important, until people get to know me really well. i think you probably no by now that i am deeply disturbed by how little the new government in SA has done to tackle prejudice and change the lot of "coloured" (term used here) and "black" people. the "truth and reconciliation" we supposedly had is taken by most "white" people to mean that apartheid is in the past, and we shouldn't "keep bringing it up". it seems also to me that "coloured" and "black" people should not talk about the intolerable things that are still inflicted on them.

the silent complicity is definitely there ... in fact, i had long ago read between the lines in the blog of the person who so highhandedly presumed to use the "N" word ... i keep getting shocked and astounded here that other people don't "see" the prejudice where i see it ... it is encoded in all sorts of subtle ways ... subtle assumptions ...

it is not that i have never been a prejudiced person ... i grew up in a fascist, white supremacist country ... but i really really strive to interogate prejudice especially in these subtle layers, because altho they are hard to point to, it is important to get to grips with these in order to even begin to fight them.

when people talk about Africa and Africans, they use the words like "lazy", "ignorant", "corrupt", "violent", etc etc... these are the images of Africans portrayed on CNN, by the leaders of western/northern countries ... people do not even begin to interogate the racism embedded in them ... it really startles me!

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RevJoseyWales 70M/67F
14393 posts
5/22/2006 6:11 pm

Well Kiss, assholes abound on both sides of the fence. Such is humanity these days, which is why I don't like them very much. Perhaps one of these days things will finally change. I have seen changes from prior generations to mine, and I see still more changes in coming generations. We have to keep working, trying, and always hope for the future. I dunno, what other chioices do we have?

Oh yeah, the voting rights thing is an obscenity in itself.

"McVeigh had the right idea, wrong address."

"This ain't Dodge City, and you ain't Bill Hickok."

rm_Kissmystuff 62F
1435 posts
5/23/2006 3:05 pm

I've been playing hooky from work today..and other days for that matter. Time to get back on the straight and narrow. But I do want to respond to the comments that people have left for me. This is a topic that generates a lot of emotion within me.

Thank you all for commenting.

Please understand..that I am not alone in my feelings and my sense of distrust that arises from time to time. While it is not right that people be judged by the color of their in and day out. It happens on both sides of the color fence. From my vantage is a what I have experienced..witnessed and learned about the history. this country..seem to live a duel life. One life is in the we feel life should be..some through ignorance..look through rose colored glasses and refuse to the see..the other is in reality.

The history of this country is such that for some it is a horror..intermixed with periods of possibilities. The sins of the fathers..are visited upon the sons and daughters. We all are living with the results of a shameful history..much of which is still enacted..even in this day and age. At least one of you stated they were angry that I would lump all whites together..while others..hinted that because prejudice has always existed and always almost excuses what prejudice does exist.

I do not say..that you should feel guilty simply because you are white. Something I tell people often..when I make a statement that they take unto themselves..that offends this.."If the shoe doesn't fit..then don't put it on" I'm not being flippant. In relation to this post..what I'm saying is if you don't speak out..if you don't correct..if you laugh at jokes that are racist..that gives a silent agreement to what is being said. You do add to the problem. You acquiesce..and encourage and enable the racists. On the other hand..If you are someone who does speak up and speak out when you see these things happening..then the shoe does NOT fit.



rm_Kissmystuff 62F
1435 posts
5/23/2006 8:37 pm

    Quoting rm_Dysgyzed:
    Thank you, Kiss.

    Confirmation #: 777
You're very welcome Dys. It is an emotional topic..isn't it?


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