Sept 11  

rm_BobBigGun 52M
27 posts
8/21/2006 7:57 pm

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Sept 11


It's hard to believe, but it will soon be five years...

Don't forget the husbands, the wives, the fathers, the mothers, the brothers, sisters, sons, daughters who went to work on another day to support a family or build a dream...

Don't forget that they lived their lives peaceably trying to be productive and maybe make or do or be something better...

Don't forget those who rushed without hesitation to their aide knowing the graveness of the situation...

Don't forget that there are those whose sole purpose is hatred and destruction...

Don't forget that while we cherish life, they cherish death and rejoice at it...

Don't forget that Freedom and peace come at great expense and with great struggle.

Don't forget that there are 3 kinds of people on the earth - those who want freedom and want to attain it, those who despise freedom and want to destroy it, and those who are ignorant of the difference. If we ever tire of the cost and lose our willingness to maintain the struggle, we have lost the greater part of the battle.

Those who love freedom and peace cannot simply withdraw unto themselves and hope to be left alone.

Don't forget.

rm_BobBigGun 52M
124 posts
8/21/2006 9:00 pm

This blankety-blank website appears to have blocked my WTC pic that I tried to post with the blog!


Hydragenias 57F

8/22/2006 8:03 pm

Also remember all the very young widows and widowers and fatherless and motherless babies in our country today. I support our troops, but I definitely don't support this damn war in Iraq.


rm_BobBigGun 52M
124 posts
8/23/2006 7:44 pm

We who sit safely in the comforts of our own living rooms have a very small window through which to see the full scope of this war. If Murrow and Thomas and Brinkley had reported from the front lines in 1944 the same as CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC....(pick one!)report events today, we'd know full well the scope of mismanagement by Eisenhower, Patton, McArthur, Montgomery, Nimitz, Truman, etc and that countless Americans were dying in a war that was "unjustified." We would have accused Roosevelt of incompetence. We'd have quickly been losing resolve with the evening body count report. We'd realize that Hitler, after having sat down for a one-on-one interview with Cronkite, really was more "misunderstood" than maniacal, that he had a lot of "wonderful" social programs that built national morale and a booming economy. We'd see the "unjustifiable" devastation that American bombs had on the great cultural centers like Dresden, Monte Casino, and the ethnic marvel of Tokyo. We would have our eyes opened to the evidence that the December 7th Commission had uncovered which pointed fingers directly at the United States as being "responsible" for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. We'd learn to let other countries "deal internally" with problems like ethnic clensing and the slaughter of defenseless civilians. Sure, it would be distasteful, but we wouldn't have to dirty our hands with "their" problems. We wouldn't have to endure any unpleasantness or painful task. We would learn to be more "sensitive" to international opinions instead of taking leadership as a free and privileged society has an obligation to do. Had the WWII soldier been given the same treatment as the Gulf War II soldier, the allies would have had to retreat from the beaches of Normandy and withdraw from Iwo Jima for the horrific "war crimes" that would have been reported as "rampant." Half of the army would have been in the brig at camp Pendleton awaiting capital punishment for charges brought by the enemy. We'd have learned to mind our own business...until the "business" came crashing full-force through our door.

I am not without some understanding of your position. No, everything isn't going perfect in this war, but no war is perfectly run. Can't be done. But there are times when it must be done in spite of the hardships. Please remember that to say you "support our troops but don't support the war," it sends a very demoralizing message to the soldier far away from home whose convictions for joining an all-volunteer army tell him otherwise. It is a contradictory statement which lends itself to undermining the task our brave soldiers have undertaken. The enemy gets a chuckle out of it too.


florallei 100F

12/6/2006 9:36 am

Hello, the simple fact of the matter is in order to achieve freedom our government, our brothers past and present and future need to fight for that right. I am not for war however when we look back at history and stand on the shoulders of our ancestors...we glean that peace and freedom has been given to us because they fought for us and we must continue to do so if we are to still have it.
What happened that tragic day is a clear example of what hate and evil can do...We must face it and do what we can to stop it...You are right,"those who despise freedom and want to destroy it, and those who are ignorant of the difference. If we ever tire of the cost and lose our willingness to maintain the struggle, we have lost the greater part of the battle."...may we never tire out!!!

hugs,
flo


florallei 100F

12/6/2006 9:40 am

    Quoting rm_BobBigGun:
    We who sit safely in the comforts of our own living rooms have a very small window through which to see the full scope of this war. If Murrow and Thomas and Brinkley had reported from the front lines in 1944 the same as CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC....(pick one!)report events today, we'd know full well the scope of mismanagement by Eisenhower, Patton, McArthur, Montgomery, Nimitz, Truman, etc and that countless Americans were dying in a war that was "unjustified." We would have accused Roosevelt of incompetence. We'd have quickly been losing resolve with the evening body count report. We'd realize that Hitler, after having sat down for a one-on-one interview with Cronkite, really was more "misunderstood" than maniacal, that he had a lot of "wonderful" social programs that built national morale and a booming economy. We'd see the "unjustifiable" devastation that American bombs had on the great cultural centers like Dresden, Monte Casino, and the ethnic marvel of Tokyo. We would have our eyes opened to the evidence that the December 7th Commission had uncovered which pointed fingers directly at the United States as being "responsible" for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. We'd learn to let other countries "deal internally" with problems like ethnic clensing and the slaughter of defenseless civilians. Sure, it would be distasteful, but we wouldn't have to dirty our hands with "their" problems. We wouldn't have to endure any unpleasantness or painful task. We would learn to be more "sensitive" to international opinions instead of taking leadership as a free and privileged society has an obligation to do. Had the WWII soldier been given the same treatment as the Gulf War II soldier, the allies would have had to retreat from the beaches of Normandy and withdraw from Iwo Jima for the horrific "war crimes" that would have been reported as "rampant." Half of the army would have been in the brig at camp Pendleton awaiting capital punishment for charges brought by the enemy. We'd have learned to mind our own business...until the "business" came crashing full-force through our door.

    I am not without some understanding of your position. No, everything isn't going perfect in this war, but no war is perfectly run. Can't be done. But there are times when it must be done in spite of the hardships. Please remember that to say you "support our troops but don't support the war," it sends a very demoralizing message to the soldier far away from home whose convictions for joining an all-volunteer army tell him otherwise. It is a contradictory statement which lends itself to undermining the task our brave soldiers have undertaken. The enemy gets a chuckle out of it too.
I love how You think...logical...factual...and truthful...I too think as You with what You just wrote...we must not forget that to attain peace...we our leaders will be hated but I am grateful that they take a firm leadership and a strong stand...and for it they are hated...how disloyal of their countrymen...
hugs,
flo


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