Explicit Photos on the Website  

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9/9/2006 11:45 am

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Explicit Photos on the Website


A shit storm exploded in Snyder, OK, after the wife of the police chief posted nude photos of herself on the internet. I don't know if the woman involved is a member of this website or not or whether or not the photos were posted on this website. People repeatedly ask on the Advice Line why others do not post an identifiable picture on their profile. This case is an example of why a lot of people do not post identifiable pics. Even though posting pics on this website may be a constitutionally protected right in the US, the consequences can still be bad.

It would be nice if people just let other people alone who aren't bothering or abusing others. But that isn't they way the real world is.

Here is the Associated Press story on the situation.

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Town's Top Cop Quits Over Nude Photos of Wife
Mayor, Councilman Also Resign Amid Backlash Over Internet Postings
By TIM TALLEY, AP

SNYDER, Okla., Sept. 8 - The police chief, the mayor and a councilman from this small, southwestern Oklahoma town resigned Friday, saying they were fed up with the public attention and criticism they received after the chief's wife appeared in various nude poses on a Web site and the photos began circulating around town.

Some local residents called for Chief Ozmun's resignation, but the City Council decided the pictures were protected by the First Amendment.

"This has turned into a media circus," Chief Tod Ozmun said Friday. "I don't feel like me staying in office is going to benefit my department or my staff. This has turned into a mess. This is ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous."

Dozens of local residents had called for Ozmun's resignation, but the City Council decided last week that Doris Ozmun's adult pictures were protected by the First Amendment. A prosecutor had called for an investigation.

The chief read a statement from Clifford Barnard, the councilman who resigned:

"The citizens' concerns that we were not enforcing religious and moral beliefs was very heartfelt and I don't want to be associated with their moral or religious beliefs because I've never read anywhere in the Good Book that the Lord wanted us to persecute those that did not hold the same morals or values."

Mayor Dale Moore also resigned.

"I think this is wrong and I won't put up with it," he told The Oklahoman. "I don't want to work in a community like this."

Shirely Anderson, who served as Snyder's mayor for five years until 1995 and whose husband, Billy Ray Anderson, was mayor for eight years before that, has been critical of the chief and his wife.

"They have no morals as far as I'm concerned," said Shirley Anderson. "That's the whole thing I think - morals. You should have respectable people in office. They need to go somewhere else where this is accepted."

Earlier Friday, the chief said the whole issue involving his 43-year-old wife had been blown out of proportion.

"People in this country do what she does on a daily basis," he said. "It's absolutely ludicrous. Makes no sense at all."

He said he has had lengthy discussions with his wife about the photos but does not tell her what to do.

"My wife is 6-foot-3 and weighs 300 pounds," he said. "If there is somebody that thinks they can control her, have at it. I have tried for 11 years and haven't been able to."

Demands for his removal reached a head at a packed City Council meeting last week. Council members met in executive session and Moore emerged with a statement saying no laws had been broken:

"As Mayor and council of the city of Snyder ... we do not endorse pornography; however, we do endorse an individual's rights under the First Amendment of freedom and expression."

But the bad feelings over the photos continued.

"I understand that it's probably not against the law. But you have to say it's a bad thing," Jim Toma, owner of Toma Discount Food, said Thursday at his store one block away from City Hall.

Cristen Edgar, a 16-year-old student at Snyder High School, also felt strongly about the issue.

"I don't think it's right for him to be the chief of police and for his wife to be doing what she's doing," Edgar said.

"They were vulgar," Larry Dismore, owner of Larry's Drugs in Snyder said of the photos, some showing the chief's wife with an American flag draped off her shoulder.

Tod Ozmun, 34, chief since January 2005, said he first met his wife 11 years ago. He said she is his former police partner.

He said conservative Oklahoma attitudes have a lot to do with all the attention being paid to his wife's photos.

"It's only the narrow-minded people that will scream the loudest," he said. "I'm from Hawaii originally. Oklahoma is a different kind of place. We were one of the last states in the nation to legalize tattooing."

He said he has received hundreds of e-mails, with about 70 percent from people who say he has been unfairly criticized.

Doris Ozmun, who was paroled in March 2005 after spending two years in the state prison system on Drug-related charges, has an unlisted telephone number and has not been at her place of employment to comment.

She earlier told The Oklahoman she had decided to remove the photos from the Internet.

"I just don't understand," she told the newspaper. "I could if I had done something illegal, or if I had murdered someone. But this is amazing.

"You know what I call this? I call this a witch-hunt."

Kiowa County District Attorney John Wampler has asked the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation to look into the matter. Wampler has said the photos would not be protected under the First Amendment if they could be shown to meet the legal threshold for impermissible obscenity.

"In my opinion, the photos that I was shown are obscene based on local community standards," he said. "Whether a court would agree may be a different matter."

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Sir_Thomas_ 90M

9/9/2006 12:24 pm

Header,
Cases like this have me torn, because both sides I believe could have good arguments, even though I did not see either side quoted as giving one. Well, welcome to Oklahoma, which I believe is Indian for "dump it here." Ok, sorry Texas humor. There is a side of me that says, hey she is allowed to do whatever she wants and what she did was protected under law. There is another side of me that questions the character and integrity of her husband. Choices and acts cannot be separated from the person. This is almost reminiscent of the Clinton - Lewinsky deal. Same arguments. What's your take?


TechSteve 50M

9/9/2006 3:46 pm

I have a few opinions.

Oklahoma, from what I am told, has a lot of bible thumping hypocrites.

"My wife is 6-foot-3 and weighs 300 pounds," he said. "If there is somebody that thinks they can control her, have at it. I have tried for 11 years and haven't been able to."

This husband doesnt sound like he has much respect for his wife.

Doris Ozmun, who was paroled in March 2005 after spending two years in the state prison system on Drug-related charges, has an unlisted telephone number and has not been at her place of employment to comment.

If this was the reason some residents wanted the chief out, I can understand. There may be no proof that the chief may have been involved, but there is enough to investigate him.

Kiowa County District Attorney John Wampler has asked the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation to look into the matter. Wampler has said the photos would not be protected under the First Amendment if they could be shown to meet the legal threshold for impermissible obscenity.

"In my opinion, the photos that I was shown are obscene based on local community standards," he said. "Whether a court would agree may be a different matter."


What an idiot. If he and the other bible thumping whackos saw the pics, I am sure they made the copies and passed it around themselves.

Steve


marathonman45202 54M
6640 posts
9/9/2006 5:25 pm

Header, I don't even know where to start. Let me just say, that if I did, this would be a comment filled with total sarcasm and obscenities. Most people reading it would just pass me off as a freaky liberal (or at least those who already don't have me pegged as such). I'll add this post to my watched list - I may comment when I calm down.

Thanks for posting this. I think it's important to be aware of this kind of shit! Reminiscent of Victorian England, don't you think?


Myhoneysrooster 69M
882 posts
9/10/2006 9:04 am

Don't see where they did anything wrong. In her position I don't think it was the brightest idea to post nude pictures but it certainly wasn't illegal.

What really chaps my butt is this comment about noty sopporting religious beliefs. I guess these people never heard of seperation of church and state nor do they know the reason behind it.

I think the real culprits here are the assinine folks who want the goverment and its laws to be based on, and to support their personal, religious beliefs or moral beliefs. They are the ones the newspapers and news media shuld be speaking of.

You got to love them bible thumpers. They never read the book, just thump on it at every opportunity.


SensuousWoman3 56F
3106 posts
9/10/2006 11:22 am

What impressed me is that the Mayor and one of the City Councilmen resigned as a show of support for the Chief of Police. While I think it was in poor taste for the Chief of Police's wife to conduct herself in the manner in which she did---not due to any moralistic views on my part, but knowing the community as she must, she had to know this would have a boomerang effect on her husband. In my opinion, she treated him with little personal regard. Of course, her prior drug convictions and jail time didn't reflect too well either, but the towns people seemed to take THAT with a grain of salt.

Bottom line, unless one can prove that the conduct of the Chief's wife had any tangible adverse affects on his job performance or the well being of the City, I do not support the request for his resignation. That is complete nonsense.

However, I admire the Chief for placing the welfare of his department and the citizens at the forefront of his agenda and recognizing that such a conflict may render him less effective in the execution of his duties.


Mermaidslut 51F

9/12/2006 10:25 pm

Thanks for posting this!

NOW, I am going to go pimp your blog cause I choose to exercise my rights to ...

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Hippink 36F  
4498 posts
9/16/2006 9:27 am

My first thoughts were: "This is a JOKE, right???"
This is just too backward and ridiculously old-fashioned.
I suppose there are still small towns out there where everyone knows everyone else... but even then, I thought people would be more admiring of a woman who choses to be shown in an erotic fashion. There will always be people who are jealous or closed-minded... but what do erotic pictures mean to anyone? How do they harm?
Three people resigned their positions over this???? This is insane! I can understand their frustration over it, but they should have fought harder, stuck together on it. No on likes to be judged, but giving in to the criticizing minority lets them win a really lame battle.
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rm_FiveTwo71 47F

9/17/2006 2:38 pm

I googled.
Apparently a lot of the good townspeople didn't like the chief anyway and were just looking for a reason to get him out. And her right nipple is pierced. And her motto is "Don't make love to me, fuck me like you hate me." And she's bi.
I still don't see what is so terrible about what she does. She's not the one spreading the pictures around town.


tackman57 60M  
184 posts
9/24/2006 3:32 pm

What I find most interesting AND disturbing about this event is that all those "moral" citizens were up in arms about the wife's photos making the chief the wrong man for the job...not her prior conviction for drugs. Typical, isn't it?! Sex being more immoral than drugs, or anything else for that matter.

As for not posting pics, Most of us don't post pics for very similar reasons. I live in a smaller community & wouldn't post a pic because my life & livelyhood would be threatened if I did. Kansas is much worse than Oklahoma.


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