WHINE with some Cheese and Crackers  

flagg134 37M
1430 posts
4/22/2006 6:05 pm

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WHINE with some Cheese and Crackers

Does the cycle ever end with the posters against free expression? It seems at least once a week if not more there is someone that wants to be on a moral high horse. Ranting about how people are rude inconsiderate and judgemental.

They seek to restrict and censor what people should say. Complaining they asked for advice not someones opinion. Which is a hypocritical statement as most advice given on relationships would have to be based on opinion. There are no one right way to handle a situation. On top of the fact that given incomplete information most we have to advise on assumptions.

There is advice to be taken from any approach whether it be critical or not. Some people only wish to hear themselves talk and to be praised. Standing on thier pedestal calling everyone else down. Committing the same offense of being judgemental that they accuse others of.

In closing it would be nice one day where adults can discuss opinions. Handle their differences with more maturity and respect. Without resorting to childhood insults and flame wars. A place where people can truly accept the ability to disagree with each other.


phoenix639 50F

4/23/2006 2:56 am

Thats what i like about the people we chat to regular on here we are all aware of our different views & personalities & accept we will see things very different & express our opinions/replies accordingly.

I believe as each of us has walked through life we have all gathered invaluable information/experiences & expertise which then can be put to use by ourselves to help someone else or help our self.

Its those who are tunnel visioned who cannot see that just because some advice they are given may not be what they wish to hear, they in turn accuse us of arrogance, ignorance & vanity (that was hilarious, my only vanity is my nails lol). Many of the posters of questions are only doing so to highlight their plight on here for a shag & also to have someone condone their actions & opinions. Woe betide any of us people with common sense & a brain though who does not answer with what they wish to hear.

Why ask the bloody question in the first place if you are not going to heed any advice & just create a bitching forum.

Roll on the blogs i say...far better quality any day.

SolarPowered0 111M
8026 posts
4/23/2006 10:03 am

People will always bitch about other people's opinions. No one wants to hear the truth, now matter how it might be presented. Here, in AFFland, it is somewhat easier to give honest opinions than it is out "there", because we have no "social" etiquette to stand in the way of truth... well, very little.

The Ad Lines will always be populated with those who say 'this is not a place for discussion.' It is merely their way of attempting to insure there will be as little truth revealed as possible. Their statement is designed to scare off all but the most virulent responders (which, BTW, are exactly the ones they do NOT want to hear from.) But, with some of us, discussion is a good thing and is held in high esteem. I am thankful for the ones of you who would present an opinion and argue that point to conclusion. It makes it worthwhile - being here.

I have always approached the Ad Lines with the intent to say exactly what I want to say. This has caused me any number of encounters which are unpleasant. However, I don't care. And most of those encounters have resulted in the other party becoming less than infrequent in their use of AFFland. Oh well.

The Ad Lines ARE the meat of the site. This is a fact and I have yet to have someone prove this untrue. The AL's provide a real-time ongoing look at who someone really is. You can ponder your persona in the BLOGs and other sections here. You CANNOT ponder your persona on the AL's! The truth will always show - in the AL's. Always!

BTW: Are they working yet???

Solar... (out of the clear blue of the Western Sky)

flagg134 37M
1582 posts
4/23/2006 10:08 am

I agree phoenix everyone has their own perspective and it can be hard to see through anothers eyes using incomplete information. To many people fail to realize that. Then take a differing opinion as a slight. People wont put up a bitching forum because there is no way anyone wants to listen so instead they invade public space to cry foul.

SSS I think you hit the nail on the head that people want to hear they are right. To be honest I learn nothing from that it feels good but to hear that I'm wrong or a different side of things gets me to think thats how we learn.

Yes alot of men think that this is supposed to be Mcfucks where you describe what you want and get it your way in 5 minutes. Fortunately most woman are more choosy than that. I try to help the nicer ones but the nasty ones I can't help but put in their place.

My opinions on certain things have changed not drastically though more to a point where I can understand the other side of the fence. Also it has enlightened me alot from some of the more intelligent questions other ways of dealing with things.


frassy_sass 55F

4/23/2006 11:46 am

LMAO!...'McFucks'...Flagg you crack me up sometimes...lol

rm_SultryVirgo 49F
567 posts
4/23/2006 11:53 am

I look at it this way, there are two kinds of people in the world, those who realize that others will state exactly how they see a situation, and accept it or not, and those who short circut over hearing such things.

You are never going to get away from those who think that unless a response is phrased in a way to their likeing, you should not be saying it. As well there are always going to be people who say what they mean period no matter how it may be worded.

That is how it is and it's not going to change. The touchy feely sensitive jihad will spend their lives up in arms over something that is said to them, that is how they are built. You can't argue with them, because they have no logic they only know that if something is not wrapped up in a package that placates them, it will always be considerd by them as something that is designed to hurt them on a personal level. And that is what it comes down to, they take it personaly. The trick is making sure that you don't let them run over your own style with their constant complaints. Because the minute you do they have the upper hand in their long running battle to replace the real world with a model based on a sugary sweet lame ass sitcom that has zero basis in reality.


header1979 38M
507 posts
4/23/2006 11:56 am

Hey Patrick,

You are wishing for a utopian paradise that will never exist. We have to deal with the world the way it is - not the way would like it to be. There will always be people who don't like what others say and try to stifle comment. It has been that way throughout history and is the reason for the First Amendment freedom of speech clause.

That is why it is necessary to respond to those who would curtail free speech. They are unclear on the concept of free and open debate and exchange of ideas. You get some name calling but that is part of free speech also. If you want to see examples of name calling, you ought to see what was written in the newspapers and pamphlets in the late 1700's and in the 1800's. It would make your hair stand on end by today's standards.

This website is a private business and the owners have the right to censor anything they chose. But no one else has that right. If the website allows it then they only thing that people can or should do is to respond to what ever is posted - either in support of the posting or not supporting the post.

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance." - Thomas Jefferson

The Advice Line is still screwed up and so is posting in the groups. I agree that the Advice Line was the best part of the website for getting a wide range of interaction with members on the website.

Hippink 36F  
4498 posts
4/23/2006 12:21 pm

I did that once! I posted a question about why everyone has to use some posters as virtual punching bags.
I gave up because it's never going to change.
I do agree that everyone has a right to their opinions, no matter if it is in agreement/like/dislike.

There are some people who are rude just for the sake of being rude. They forget that there's other people reading what they're saying. People should never be rude, whether in the 3-D world or here in AdultFriendFinder land. But, whining about it doesn't seem to change anything.

We all just have to develop a thicker skin and a backbone and put the rude people in their place.

Or go sulk in a corner and lick our wounds.

The main thing that bothers me is those who feel they have a right to say what questions do and do not belong where. If it conforms to the rules of the site, it's fine. If you don't like the question, move on to one you do like. I never understood why so many people feel a need to bash a person just because they asked a question. The site offers POINTS to ask a question which can be tallied up until they can get a free month's membership, so some people are going to ask mundane, over-asked questions just to get those points. The sooner everyone understands this, the sooner they can stop letting themselves get past that boiling point.
Hippie XXX

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rm_goddess1946 107F
13518 posts
4/23/2006 1:36 pm

I think life is too short to spend healthy energy
taking pot shots at people. I just don't understand it.
Everyone matters...being rude just doesn't serve in a
healthy way. Just my opinion.

Just a little food for thought.............
If you really want to be happy, nobody can stop you...

flagg134 37M
1582 posts
4/23/2006 2:51 pm

Thx Frassy I try.

Sultry I agree I try not to lose my cool with them though they are rather pestering and stubborn. Refusing to see reality and instead staying in their PC bubble of happyland. These people usually fade away as the masses see through them and their complaints. There just always seems to be another willing to pick up the banner and start the crusade against free thought.

Header I know it is impossible for it to happen there is no way to please everyone. Thats quite the point though we post there because we have something to add to the discussion or think we can help with a problem. Its not name calling that bothers me its the repeated argument against it as well as the hypocritical way they present it.
I guess the war will never end as long as I'm here though I will stand against the silly censorship. They would rather have safety from disagreement than the ability to speak as they wish.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin

Hippie I do believe sometimes we handle certain posters such as newbies with disrespect. I do try to educate the ones that ask a question respectfully. Alot of times though they ask in an accusatory manner against people. These I have no problem putting in their place. I don't know if that makes me rude or not. I just answer the question in the manner the poster has asked it. You are right there are few good reasons as to why a question should be removed with the exception of ones that are of truly malicious intent or threatening. Everyones opinion deserves to be heard even those that would give up the right to do so. Hopefully people can understand that one day.


curvymeli 40F

4/23/2006 9:10 pm

I think we all grow up with a myth about adulthood: that there's a magic age when suddenly we all start acting differently and people become mature and respectful towards one another. But most people don't realise that you have to work to be that way, that if you don't make yourself treat others well you never will.

I know I'm not perfect at it, none of us are. I try and be respectful and compassionate...but honestly, who really has the patience to be that way 100% of the time? Hippie mentioned the people who tell others where questions belong; I definitely do that. Am I going to stop cuz she said it? No, but it makes me think about it, but I am trying to get them better answers by 'directing' them. At least in my mind...

Then again, who gave me the authority, right? Well, I did. And AdultFriendFinder allows for that type of thing from EVERYONE, so I think it's okay.

Hm, going to go and take a peek at the advicelines now, I have been away a couple of days. Wish me luck!!


Rudy1166 51M
136 posts
4/23/2006 9:31 pm

I know a few people like that. Give me an honest person who makes mistakes any day of the week over a self righteous brickbat.
"Mcfucks"? I always thought this was Domino's Pussy Delivery.

curvymeli 40F

4/23/2006 10:54 pm

PS Thanks for the tip on how to get the advicelines questions up properly Flagg.

flagg134 37M
1582 posts
4/24/2006 4:06 pm

Rudy thats the competition they guarantee promise a Piping Hot Pussy at your door within 30 minutes or the blowjobs free.


cactusass 56F

4/26/2006 2:43 pm

i promise to try, to try to be good.

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