flagg134 37M
1430 posts
4/3/2006 8:55 pm

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I was listening to the radio today and there was a commercial asking do you sweat to much. We have the answer a Botox injection to your underarm or palms will lower the sweating with little or no side effects. It is even covered by most medical insurance plans so stop being embarassed by profuse sweating and give us a call today.

So I figured I would do the research this is what I found:

Botulinum Toxin Type A
I have been using Botox for the treatment of facial wrinkles for many years now. Recently, I have been treating excessive underarm sweating (axillary hyperhidrosis) with Botox injections with great success.

Although axillary hyperhidrosis is rarely a serious medical problem, it can be a serious social problem. Patients who have this problem are often very embarrassed. It can limit clothing selection and can ruin some types of fabrics. Antiperspirants can be helpful but in some patients, their effectiveness is limited.

Botox injection is an effective treatment for axillary hyperhidrosis. It is thought that Botox paralyses the tiny muscles that play an important role in sweat excretion. Botox is injected just under the skin in the hair bearing area of the axilla (arm pit). It usually takes 2 to 3 days for maximum effect. The effect of the injection usually lasts 3 to 4 months. The effect wears off gradually and the injection needs to be repeated to maintain the effect. It has been my experience that each subsequent injection lasts longer with some patients obtaining up to 9 months of relief.

I mean sweaty armpits are nasty but seriously there are other answers except maybe in extreme cases. Hands usually sweat when your nervous simply carry a handkerchief or something for when you have to shake hands besides Botox injected into your hand will weaken it killing the whole point behind a handshake anyway. This all sounds so superficial to me. Why people would worry about this it isn't life threatening or painful so why go through all this.

Is it just me or is this just absolutely frivolous. A waste of money and doctors time and talents. Worse yet one of the millions of causes of rising insurance costs. I know I can't do anything about this but why let it continue.


curvymeli 40F

4/3/2006 9:19 pm

I had a friend in college many years ago that had this problem with sweating profusely. Even on very cold days she would get sweatrings under her arms.

Not only did it affect her self esteem but it affected her interactions with EVERYONE, especially in the workplace.

You said it yourself "sweaty armpits are nasty" and this is a common perception. Not only did she have problems with fellow staff making comments or giving her rude stares, customers often gave her rude looks and shied away. Some even told management that she should change her shirt or clean up to look better (she worked in a variety of places, from waitressing, to retail, to office work).

Lisa never stank but she showered several times a day anyways, she layered her clothing to minimize wet spots under her arms, she changed shirts every couple of hours...it was a constant battle for her.

It didn't stop there, either. All parts of her body poured sweat constantly and she constantly felt that people could see it. If she went to the gym (and she stayed very active bc it helped if her body's air-conditioning mechanism was in top form) not only was her back, underarms, and stomach slick and darkened with wet spots, but her butt and crotch area, too. If she took a hike on a warm day the same dark spots would show up. She constantly bought clothes that she had to give away bc they showed sweat spots too easily. She never felt clean enough or dry enough, despite prescription strength anti-perspirants that she reapplied constantly.

This type of thing would have been a Godsend to her, and I am sure she is taking advantage of it. That is, if she didn't get some of her sweat glands removed, which was the last step she was considering in this life-long battle.

header1979 38M
507 posts
4/3/2006 10:48 pm

Hey Flagg, I am basically a guy who doesn't believe in fucking with natural body functions and put a lot of shit in your body just for looks. Botox is dangerous.

Sweating is natural and essential. The body sweats two different ways, The skin on most of the body sweats water and salt. This is essential to maintain body temperature. The arm pits and groin also sweat a fatty sweat in addition to water. That is why arm pits and groin can get foul pretty quickly. The fatty sweat is great food for bacteria. That can be taken care of with deodorant which makes the armpit acidic and inhibits the growth of bacteria. But more important, the body puts out pheromones (sex scents) in the fatty sweat. This is what creates the subconscious sex attraction of male to female and vice versa. (It also is why gay men are attracted to other men but that is a different subject.) So if some one stops the production of the fatty sweat in the armpit, they are probably cutting down or eliminating the production of pheromones and thus decreasing sexual attraction.

It seems to me that some soap and water is the best way to take care of an arm pit and not fuck up a normal essential process. Particularly if it decreases sexual attraction. Hell we need everything going for us that we can. lol

It is like years ago fiber was eliminated from the diet, thinking that it wasn't necessary and it would be better if people shit less. Later it was learned that the fiber was essential to body function and that the diet of refined foods was causing health problems.

Every part of the body and body function has a purpose. Grooming and good hygiene are the things to do - not mutilate the body.

Just my thoughts.


header1979 38M
507 posts
4/3/2006 10:51 pm

For chrissake, I just noticed the pic that you posted on this blog. That pic must be illustrating the gay attraction to the male pheromone, lol


themisskrissy 57F
2302 posts
4/4/2006 12:03 am

don't sweat it darlin.....

Virtue Alone Ennobles

flagg134 37M
1582 posts
4/4/2006 2:59 am

Curvymeli I do understand there are extreme cases where it gets out of hand I knew someone while I was in high school that had basically the same problem. Cases like that are pretty rare and thats where it becomes a problem. In her case which is extreme I understand it completely.

This however is being used a little more frivolously. You know sort of like how we prescribe medicine for everything thats a way for drug companies to make money. I know many doctors who will be quick to prescribe whatever is your poison. People will claim they sweat alot just to have this done so they can avoid it. This procedure is done by cosmetic surgeons mostly so its all about the money. I just feel its sad how petty our society can be at times.


flagg134 37M
1582 posts
4/4/2006 3:19 am

Header, I'm with you here Botox is insane it basically paralyzes the muscle so that it cannot contract using bacteria that attacks the enzyme that sends that message to the brain. It is also the main cause of food poisoning the fact that we use such a thing cosmetically is apalling. Like I said above maybe in the extreme case of this disorder but not so frivously as this.

I've never been big on medicine I even loathe taking antibiotics. I don't believe in messing up the body chemistry. We were made this way for a reason through eons of evolution. I also believe we are over medicated concerning mental health many a doctor is far to willing to mess around with the brains fickle chemistry.

We shouldn't mess with sweat I'm well aware of the pheromones there which help to attract the opposite sex. Why give up a way to help us out there. Also there are many other ways to deal with a minor version of this including prescription strength anti-perspirants.

I figured the photo was fitting for this post and that someone would catch the meaning behind it. lol


phoenix639 50F

4/4/2006 10:26 am

Well i sweat like the proverbial pig this morning in the gym & felt so sorry for anyone near me....i dont perspire i fuckin leak when i workout. Its gross.

Seriously though some do have medical conditions where sweating isnt on the normal basis. Im sure aluminium salts were used in preparations for this, better than botox like injections!

There is another condition though where your body excretes the odour of fish...yup. Apparantly is the liver malfunctioning & your body has to dispel toxins somehow so its passed through your skin (which is as you know our largest organ). No cure as yet & not much you can do as to regards the odour.

So excessive sweating seems minor in comparrison.

flagg134 37M
1582 posts
4/4/2006 2:20 pm

Didn't know about the fish odor disease that would truly be horrendous. With no way to stop that it would truly put a damper on your personal and professional life.

Yes I do understand there are some that do sweat way to much I did as much research as I could and most cases can be treated with prescription level anti-perspirants. This is just a way for people to not have to go through that but it is much more dangerous and costly just so they don't have to inconvenience themselves with it. They are not Botox like injections its actual Botox which is scary enough for this much less something more cosmetic.

I can only recommend this in extreme cases such as the one meli brought up other than that it seems frivolous to induce your bodies reaction like that.


themisskrissy 57F
2302 posts
4/4/2006 4:36 pm

gee thanks phoe!!!

criminy... i am hearing stories that the local rummies have head lice the size of houseflies too... and they jump far.....eeeeeeewwwwwwwww

i don't even want to know about the chemicals that got pumped into me for that month in the hospital.... i know the several general anesthetics i had prior to the big surgery wrecked my hair.. (9 over 15 months, 12 over 1... i have been using extreme conditioning treatments since the fall to get some improvement.. and to counteract the negative effect i was anticipating..

i am not a vain person.. i would never consider injecting any foreign substance into my body for frivolity... that can do some bad stuff...was it a type of collagen a few years back that women were having injected into their lips/faces? some became facially deformed and others died to minimize a few lines.... crazy...
the human body attacks foreign matter, be it implants or artificial joints.....and you then have to counter act that... no thanks...not unless is is medically and absolutely necessary

Virtue Alone Ennobles

frassy_sass 56F

4/4/2006 4:36 pm

Flagg...I would love to answer, but I have to wring out my dress shields.

phoenix639 50F

4/5/2006 4:00 am

Krissy...try pure extra virgin olive oil hun. Soak your hair in it with clin wrap wrapped around. Sit in a warm bath or hot room such as a sauna then wash out & condition as normal.

Really cheap & the best treatment you will ever have.

My background is hairdressing & out of all treatments ive come across this one is the one that never fails, especially over long term usage.

As you know my hair is really long & curly & its naturally that way to so comes with natural frizz....i swear by it.

Now men....if you want any cheap beauty tips by all means ask lol.

Bald heads respond well to olive oil too...gives a great glow.

SolarPowered0 112M
8026 posts
4/5/2006 5:51 pm

This is EXACTLY the reason God invented showers... and water heaters to go with 'em! Although I don't worry about sweat - I smell like a garden-fresh salad with just a hint of Irish Sping, when I sweat... (Manly, yes! And she likes it too),

Solar... (out of the clear blue of the Western Sky)

flagg134 37M
1582 posts
4/5/2006 8:06 pm


That sucks to have a piece of you damaged like that because of an imbalance caused by something outside of your control. I agree I disdain societies dependence on drugs and chemicals for vanity and minor health problems I can understand in life and death situations or self esteem damaging vanity effects like severe burns or whatnot. This seems a little petty though in most cases.


If I ever need my nails done or need to curl out my hair I'll look you up.LOL


You left a puddle you could at least clean up after yourself.


God invented showers huh well its the reason someone did. Gotta thank that guy or else we all might be living like the french. LOL


SolarPowered0 112M
8026 posts
4/5/2006 11:20 pm

The French have showers. It's just they don't have water - so they run burgandy through 'em, instead!


BTW: That picture looks like a French dude sniffin' on an ugly American. *LMFAO*

Oh... I hear MA has a new law which MANDATES that every "citizen" must purchase health insurance. Interesting. I wonder how many people will end up in jail over that one?

Hippink 36F  
4498 posts
4/6/2006 5:26 am

There are those who excessively sweat. It cannot be controlled, it is so excessive that underarms will always be uncomfortable & wet, showing sweat stains. Hands & feet will always be sweaty. Touching anyone can be embarrassing and you'd avoid it as much as possible because it's uncomfortable.
The Botox treatment isn't for your everyday average sweating person. It's for those who want to feel a little more normal. Don't judge until you've walked a day in their shoes. It has nothing whatsoever to do with health, cleanliness or vanity. It is all about just wanting to be NORMAL, and not being afraid to touch someone for fear of repulsing them.
I wish I could afford it. Or that I didn't hate needles.

Anyway, you're welcome for sticking up for you. Something like that should NEVER go by unchallenged.
Hippie XXX

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SolarPowered0 112M
8026 posts
4/6/2006 11:16 am


What's a little sweat - between friends?


cactusass 57F

4/6/2006 3:26 pm

i had the experience of very briefly dating someone that did not use deodorant...can't say enough about personal hygiene, i do not find a man's pits au naturel very appealing. now i don't like excessive perfumes that appealing either, being well groomed and clean is the sexiest thing. (oh and walking upright and being able to string at least 2 syllables together is good too).

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