I am a naive, foolish idealist!  

curious082385 32F
4230 posts
5/20/2006 4:29 pm

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I am a naive, foolish idealist!

I got called a foolish, naive idealist today.

Why? Because I made a few comments about the goodness and strength of people and all that love can do.

It got me thinking. If that is the definition of an idealist...is that such a bad thing? To believe in something beautiful and great in the souls of people? Is that foolish and naive?

So many here look at my age and smile indulgently..."she is young and innocent...she will learn that the world isn't such a shiny place." Does my young age somehow mean that I have been protected from the darker things in life? No, far from it. Some of you here know my story and understand why I don't talk about it much here. Yes, there are people in the world and people here who have suffered much greater, whose trials and challenges far outweigh my own. But I am far from naive or sheltered or untouched.

I don't claim to have all the answers or know how to fix the world's problems. But I look around me and see such violence, such hatred, such greed and self-centeredness....and I am baffled by it. I simply don't understand.

Why does it matter what color someones skin is? It doesn't make them any less human.
Why does it matter what church someone prays in? That they might name the Divine differently from me doesn't change the beauty of their faith or the respect that it should be given.
Why does it matter that you live in a different country, speak a different language or have more or less money then I do?

I see those differences...the different races, religions, ideas, cultures...and I see beauty. One of the most extraordinary things about humans is our free will and incredible, powerful thoughts. And yet we kill and hate each other because we are different. But it is our diversity that gives life beauty and depth and interest. To all be the same...the world would be flat, dull and colorless.

Young men and women are dying everyday in Iraq...and for what? As chess pieces in some politicians unknown game? We throw lives away while children struggle for one more day in Africa, while families in New Orleans are still without homes, while disease and poverty ravage countries. And yet we still play our petty, selfish power games.

I look at that and it makes me sick with outrage and disgust. I look at it and want so badly to find some way to change it. I guess that makes me a foolish idealist.
And they say it like it's a bad thing.

elysianpleasure 48M

5/20/2006 5:08 pm

I hardly think you are foolish or naive... I know better. And I think you idealism and hope are wonderful traits... don't let them get to you. You are wonderful.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:15 am:
Not so much letting them get to me...I guess it is more of being sad that it is considered a bad thing by some these days to have hope.

Nightguy_1961 56M
4866 posts
5/20/2006 5:20 pm

You are not naive...far from it. From the conversations we've had, you are highly intelligent, but you are grounded in reality.

You are an optimist...whose positive outlook helps to counterbalance cold hearted cynical bastards like me...and I'm glad you're in this world.

NG61...leaving behind a red rose tied in black silk ribbon, then slips back into the shadows...

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:14 am:
While I wouldn't call you a cold-hearted, cynical bastard...the world needs a balance. Glad you are here too.

rm_1rabbit4 33M
11 posts
5/20/2006 5:32 pm

your right its good to be hopeful for the best.people just get hurt and get tired of it so they give up and dont want to be the only ones so they try to suck others in.i like self improvement so i read a lot and a wile ago i started reading psychological books or at least thats what there called in the book store i think there more like idea books or role models but thich naht huhn is a good writer hes a Buddhist that lived in Vietnam during the war its an interesting story i like his philosophy's.

sillyperv 55M

5/20/2006 5:40 pm

Considering the foundation of our moral culture and inate view of ourselves is founded on the notion of "original sin" it seems appropriate to think ill of the world. Fortunately, it is complete drivel. If you count up the random acts of decency and humanity that we do and receive everyday - and this goes from a smile, to opening a door, to risking your life with emergancy services to save people completely unknown to you and match them against the acts of cruelty the good far outweighs the bad. But, the bad is nasty. It sells papers. It is riveting because as much as it seems to happen every day it still is a shock. It serves the interest of the powerful who believe that their sins are everyone else's and therefor rail against their own failings by judging others. Ideals inspire and guide us. And while we may not live up to them everyday, I don't think people fall short as much as they think they do.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:16 am:
"It serves the interest of the powerful who believe that their sins are everyone else's and therefor rail against their own failings by judging others."

Sadly, you are all too right. Keep the focus on everyone else, keep them feeling bad and no one will realize your screw-ups as often.

wistfuljester 65M

5/20/2006 5:56 pm

Good for you for not letting those cynics take your values away from you!

From where I sit, I see your realistic understanding of all that is hateful and wounded about this world, and I am glad to see that you still believe in love, truth and the power of the human soul to overcome.

Blog on!

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:16 am:
Thank you...both for the compliments and the visit.

angelofmercy5 60F
17881 posts
5/20/2006 6:20 pm

I think you are wise beyond your years....and I truly love to come and read your thoughts and opinions here. You go girl!!!

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:17 am:
Just my random ramblings, but thank you!

toothysmile 51M
16517 posts
5/20/2006 6:30 pm

While I wholeheartedly agree with you, I have to say that humans have been killing each other ever since they were created. It isn't out of hate, it 's usually for much more material things.
Still, that 's no excuse to end our constant strive for peace.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:19 am:
So I guess the real question is...so why does status and material property matter so much?

toothysmile 51M
16517 posts
5/20/2006 6:34 pm

...as for the rest:
please stay as you are.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:19 am:
Planning on it...

seek_u_topia 52M

5/20/2006 6:41 pm

Curious, I think those that read your blog know full well that you are not naive, but in fact are a positive and hopeful individual. I for one appreciate your attitude and optimism very much. And honestly, I wouldn't waste my time reading your blog if you weren't such an amazing, interesting and mature person. Now that I think about it, you are at least a decade younger than any other blogger I follow, and close to twenty years younger than most I watch. However, I never think of things in that respect. I appreciate your wisdom and warmth, neither of which can be learned.

You're a very special person and a wonderful writer, and I'm glad to consider you my friend. You know the truth, and I know you won't let what some may say about you impact what you write or who you are.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:21 am:
I never really think of age as the definition of maturity either. Although, as much as I love reading my fellow bloggers work, I do wish that there were more that were closer to my age.

rm_yukonpaul 52M
1120 posts
5/20/2006 6:50 pm

Keep thinking those positive thoughts. It's too late for me to be anything but pessimistic.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:22 am:
Well...Saint told me too and it isn't wise to defy the Patron Saint, so *smack*.
In all honesty though, I agree with her. It is never too late.

rm_saintlianna 46F
15466 posts
5/20/2006 7:02 pm

You arent innocent thats funny, and please........smack Paul up there for me. Its never too late.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:22 am:
It is funny isn't it?

rm_LoyalCumpany 47M
3204 posts
5/20/2006 7:06 pm

Nothing wrong with idealism. It keeps the world from falling into anarchy and total chaos.

Reminds me, I need to go back to building my bomb shelter.

I am JoJo the Circus Boy!

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:23 am:
Yeah, I need to build one too...just in case. Got any tips?

SleekIcilyVarix 42M

5/20/2006 7:35 pm


To laugh often and much;
To win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children;
To earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends;
To appreciate beauty, to find the best in others;
To leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition;
To know even one life breathed easier because you have lived.
This is to have succeeded.

-Incorrectly attributed to Ralph Waldo Emerson

By this measure, you appear to be a successful human being. Nothing foolish about that.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:24 am:
Ok, I absolutely loved this comment. It was perfect.

rm_1hotwahine 64F
21091 posts
5/20/2006 10:23 pm

I think that, because of your age, people assume that your idealism is from a lack of experience. Something that I recognized about you early on is that, like me, your belief in people comes from a very intentional, conscious, practical choice.

I predict that the years will certainly tweak and fine tune your perspective, but is unlikely to change that part of you. If anything, the good that you DO see will reinforce what you inately choose to focus on.

Or at least that's how it was for someone else we know.

Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:26 am:
I sincerely hope that the upcoming years will change my perspective. If they don't, that means that they were boring and had absolutely no cool experiences in them, wouldn't it? And who wants that?

Choozmi 51M

5/21/2006 2:49 am

People can only speak from their own experiences.

We play a part in every situation in our lives. If we expect and look for the good, we will likely find it. If we expect the worst, we will find that, too.

Whoever said that to you was one of those seeking the worst out of life. That's not mature or realistic; it's just sad.

Stay sunny.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:28 am:
"We play a part in every situation in our lives. If we expect and look for the good, we will likely find it."

Very true. We create our own experiences and perceptions.

rm_KirkVW44m 56M
688 posts
5/21/2006 3:11 am

Most people go through life walking and living the same path of normalcy dictated by the the majority. Few walk the path in life of the free spirit like i do not only standing up for what they themselves believe but living that lifestyle. Age isn't a factor in intelligence. I met a 14 year old young lady *daughter to a friend of mine* awhile back and if you were to speak to her and not know her age you would think she was in her 30's by her maturity and knowledge of many things yet some 14 year olds act and have the minds of 10 year olds knowledge wise.

I remember a quote from awhile back but cant think of who said this but it stated " A military does NOT start wars, politicians do. Lives lost in sadness for the soap box of a government we in the U.S. have in place right now.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:29 am:
Age is never a good way to determine maturity. I have met some 12 year olds who will knock you over with the depth of their thoughts and some 40 year olds who made me feel like I should be getting paid for babysitting.

rm_corezon 54F
3376 posts
5/21/2006 7:48 am

Ideals and dreams of things better are the things that keep this old world from collapsing on itself. Like Solomon said, there is nothing truly new under the sun. It is all a matter of perspective that keeps us and the world from becoming jaded and lifeless.

Many of us go through dark periods and we learn to crawl our way out...and find our ideals and our dreams again. Like Wahine said, ultimately it is a choice that we make. Nobody makes it for us.

We all need to remember to light our own candles and keep dreaming our dreams 'cause that's the only way they come true. And eventually some do. Never apologize for being an idealist.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:30 am:
Yep, without faith in those dreams, you will never see them come into fruition. And without dreams or something to strive for, what is the point of anything you do?

Seriously_Real 49M

5/21/2006 8:29 am

In the beginning, there is love. In the end, there is love. In the middle there is love struggling to surmount all else.

But amor vincit omnia. I still....STILL....believe. Still.

That does not make me, or you, or anyone else an idealist. It makes us human. As for the shit in the middle? Yeah. Go on and rail against it. It is a sporting event, this duel between love and that which gets in its way. We cheer for the home team, rail against the bad calls of the officials, hate the opposing team with ever fiber of our beings because we know -- WE KNOW -- what is right.

You are what you should be. I am glad that you are just that.


curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:31 am:
"In the beginning, there is love. In the end, there is love. In the middle there is love struggling to surmount all else."

Ok, this I loved. For both of us. Amor Vincent Omnia indeed.

concupiscentKid 41M

5/21/2006 1:07 pm

Don't worry about it.
You come across as being someone older than 20.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:32 am:
Not worried...just shocked.

rm_gerson42 53M
2419 posts
5/21/2006 5:48 pm

People, mostly shallow people, attempt to bring others down to their level. It makes them feel better about themselves.

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:33 am:
I never understand how that was supposed to work. Wouldn't they feel bad about hurting the other person?


5/21/2006 6:49 pm

Without high idealism nothing that we know would even exist.

And you can take that statement as literally s you'd like to and I believe it's still true at any level you want to strip it down to.


curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:34 am:
Oh, I agree with that statement wholeheartedly. Everything we are, see and experience is as we make it.

rm_FunCumGuy69 49M
14 posts
5/21/2006 11:53 pm

Keep walking in the light. Seek the truth as only you can, and fear no imposter.

Love, truth and honesty.....all the secrets of a beautiful mind.


curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:36 am:
Amor, lux, veritas.....love, light, truth...
There is a reason I named my blog that.

Deftonics69 34M

5/21/2006 11:56 pm

Let me start off by saying, I love the way you think. You're a far cry from the typical "cali" girl.

I'm going to dip deep into how "fear" can easily control masses of people at once.

I think we're definately puppets to something more than just government. Look at how easily humans are influenced by everything around us. Think of it this way, no one is born with the urge to kill or hate another innocent person, so where does this come from? Social conditioning.

There are definately evil seeds that are planted in our minds. Those seeds are watered every single day by our surroundings (way of life, what the media feeds us, what television feeds us). No place is more evident than here in North America. What's the easiest way to condition someone socially? FEAR. Once you put fear in someone's mind, they're under your control. The world is conditioning us with fear.

FEAR is what makes another man kill another man. Fear of what? Fear of a potential "danger" to his country

FEAR is what makes people so materialistic. Fear of what? Fear of not "fitting in" or being left behind.

I'm not gonna get into the whole war issue, just know this. Once you're able to think outside the box and really see the big picture....it's not too hard to recognize what's going on.

When people realize that governments are out to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, only then, and only then will they wake up. It's sad that it has to come down to a material thing like money for people to start waking up. By then it will be all too late though

On the topic of "race".

"Race" is a completely man made thing. There is no such thing as "race". That's why I laugh when people use that word in s such a context. There's no biological difference in humans, so how can race scientifcally exist? A man from Korea can have closer DNA ties to a man from Sweden than he does to his own brother! Race is simply a pathetic way/excuse to group people based on MINOR physical characteristics such as skin colour, eye shape, hair, whatever.

Besides, it's easy to control masses of people and instill fear, once you group them up right?

curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:38 am:
"Once you're able to think outside the box and really see the big picture....it's not too hard to recognize what's going on."

I know...I just wish there wasn't anything there to see, or that it was a happier picture.
The only thing to fear is fear itself...and yet we give it so much power over what we do and how we see everything.

rm_lust2u2 52M

5/23/2006 4:39 am

Be yourself, contribute in your way, stand up for whatever you believe in... but, donĀ“t forget there are calculating/scheming people out there

curious082385 replies on 5/24/2006 3:59 am:
In all honesty, the calculating and scheming people don't worry me. I know what I think and believe and they can't touch that.

rm_gerson42 53M
2419 posts
5/23/2006 8:25 am

    Quoting rm_gerson42:
    People, mostly shallow people, attempt to bring others down to their level. It makes them feel better about themselves.
curious082385 replies on 5/23/2006 5:33 am:
I never understand how that was supposed to work. Wouldn't they feel bad about hurting the other person?

I suppose that closes the circle, they don't think about it.

curious082385 replies on 5/24/2006 4:00 am:
Yes, I suppose you are right. But to a certain extent, that is even sadder, isn't it?

rm_kelli4u2dew 42F
5220 posts
5/23/2006 12:13 pm

Welcome to the club, sis! Yeah, I've never understood why they say it like a bad thing, to want a better world. ?)

curious082385 replies on 5/24/2006 4:02 am:
You're one too, huh?

blueguy1051 61M

5/23/2006 2:56 pm

Naive? Possibly. Foolish? No. Even at my advanced age and cynicism, I still believe in the essential goodness of people. Don't ever lose that. It makes it so much easier to look in the mirror in the morning.

curious082385 replies on 5/24/2006 4:03 am:
Yes, it does. I don't think I'm in any danger of losing it though. I've seen some of the worst in people...but I'm surrounded by examples of the best too.

Peche85 32F

5/23/2006 11:51 pm

If only more people felt the same way! Then we could band together and fight it

curious082385 replies on 5/24/2006 4:03 am:
That's just it though. I wonder how many people share my thoughts, but don't do anything because they think they are just one person. There might be millions out there, thinking they are just one and can't do anything.

bulging_boy 50M

5/25/2006 6:30 am

Most definately Curious.

I love your idealism, it's one of my traits as well.

As for the question to Peche. You know the answer to that, and it's why you asked it. One of the advantages that politicians have is to deny people the ability to recognise the numbers of people who share the same view. Obfuscate and confuse the masses. Make them feel isolated and alone in their thoughts.

Damn I'm sounding cynical.

Fortunately the internet allows us to circumvent a lot of that.

curious082385 replies on 5/26/2006 12:03 am:
Yes, you are sounding cynical...but sadly you are also sounding right. But the internet has done wonders for giving large amounts of people the power to voice their opinions and get them out there.

dasher121 37M

5/25/2006 6:46 am

prob everyone else have said it already and at best. you know this to be very untrue. stay the course of yourself, whats natural to you. there will always be haters and fuck stains out there. Just roll it off, and roll on with your bad self.

curious082385 replies on 5/26/2006 12:07 am:
Actually that is what pissed him off the most. He tried to throw it at me like an insult...thought I would be offended or hurt by it. (doesn't know me as well as he thought he did) I started laughing and thanked him for the compliment.
In all honesty, I don't think that it is a bad thing at all.

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