Excommunicated By The Church Of Liberalism  

TTigerAtty 63M
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6/29/2006 12:26 pm

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Excommunicated By The Church Of Liberalism

Friends, I tried very hard to join the Church of Liberalism, as you are no doubt aware. I tried hard to learn Church Dogma. I tried to memorize all of Liberalism's Holy Sacraments and I tried to learn all the Liberal talking points and rituals. In the end, I just could not measure up, and I was ultimately discovered to be a fake, a fraud and completely unworthy. Failing to adhere to and proclaim Liberal Doctrine, I have been summarily excommunicated from the faith.

I shall return now to the secret enclaves of the Compassionate Conservatives and beg forgiveness for having strayed so far from the fold. A tribunal consisting of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Colter and Newt Gingrich will hear my pleadings and determine whether I shall be readmitted to their ranks. I am sure there will be some sort of penance that I will be made to pay.

I have learned in a very painful way that Shakespeare was so correct when he asserted very long ago in Hamlet: "This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou cans't not be false to any man."

I was not true to myself by denying George W. Bush, Newt Gingrich, Sean Hannity, Ann Colter, Dick Cheney, Tom DeLay or Karl Rove. I was not honest with all of my loveable liberal friends who believed I was making a serious attempt to reform my ogreish and intolerant Conservative Republican ways.

In all that you do, my friends, always be true to your own deeply-held principles, beliefs and values. Don't try to flow with the crowd just to please them. Be true to yourself. Follow your own compass in life. During my personal journey of the past several weeks, I have come to learn and understand these things.

Copyright © June, 2006 by TTigerAtty


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TTigerAtty 63M

6/29/2006 1:30 pm

Among the many Liberal indoctrination courses I failed are the following:

The Holy Sacrament of Abortion 101
Cut and Run War Tactics 104
Flag Desecration 108
Flip-Flopping On Stated Positions 110
Leaking and Publicizing Classified Secrets 111
Same Sex Marriage 112
Thou Shalt Not Punish The Perpetrator 116
The Liberal Doctrine of Infallibility 130
Denial of God: Removing God from Schools, Courthouses, Coins, the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag, etc. 135
Darwinian Theory of Evolution vs. Creationism 225
Accomplishing Liberal Objectives Via Judicial Fiat vs. Democratic Process 250

I did my best, but Liberalism is a very difficult religion to learn. Perhaps, if I were a bit younger and had been brainwashed in the modern-day public school system, I would be a bit further along in my personal journey to the left.


rm_magnet4u22 50F
18406 posts
6/29/2006 1:59 pm

Liberals accept people as they are.....you are still loved.



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TTigerAtty 63M

6/29/2006 2:09 pm

    Quoting rm_magnet4u22:
    Liberals accept people as they are.....you are still loved.
That means a lot coming from you, Mag! After all, IF James Carville and Mary Matalin can get along in a marriage, then all of us Conservatives, Moderates and Liberals ought to be able to argue politics during the day and then make love at night! WhoooHoooo! It kinda increases the intensity of the relationship I think!


rm_Twister2bed 48M
617 posts
6/29/2006 9:21 pm

Welcome back to the family TTiger I was afraid you were lost to us and I was gonna have to rub you out

Side Note Tige you were 100% right on with the last post. It was in this mornings papers, HAHA Blaming Bush for the flooding here in Pa.
And why he wasn't doing anything about it.

I mean HOLY CRAP whats up with Dem's these days the rivers were still on the rise and flood in progress and BLAME BUSH??????
WTF was he supposed to do wave his hand and command the waters to recede like Moses? And are the state and local democrats so inept they needed federal assistance that soon? Never would have heard Tom Ridge say anything like that drivel.
RANT OFF.


MOfunNOWWOW 56F

6/30/2006 2:21 am

Truman is one proud Tiger! Lookin good but politics...still {=}

Where is the sex, the book, the poetry

Give em hell Harry..er Tiger!


MOMO
just a squirrel trying to get a nut


sillyperv 55M

6/30/2006 7:19 am

Limbaugh, Coulter, Gingrich, Rove, Cheny et al are compassionate conservatives? I'd hate to meet the vengeful ones. Regardless of their view of the world, whenever I see them on the television or read their thoughts (Rove and Cheny being far brighter than the other three) they come off as people with contempt and loathing for their fellow man.
Which is the funny thing about the Bush, I never get the impression of him being inherently bad, just willing to follow orders. Clinton of course was a scoundral. The kind that women love, well, except for Hillary.


rm_magnet4u22 50F
18406 posts
6/30/2006 10:49 am

James Carville is a true saint by getting along with Mary. People just have to know what is important and when to table a discussion.



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PrincessKarma 44F
6188 posts
6/30/2006 11:11 pm

Oh, well... I love you anyway. *HUG*

The Big Bang was the mother of all orgasms.PrincessKarma


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/68F
3394 posts
6/30/2006 11:27 pm


Where the hell did carville get in here .. lmao

say, i'll get u the New York Times web page showing clearly where the survielance cameras are at Dick & Rummy's places ... really cute ..... the REAL enemy is within ... im writing a new book ....


ya, damned bush ... those floods


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/68F
3394 posts
7/1/2006 8:16 am

Here is a goody ...website with clear pic & caption "There is a lens in the birdhouse at the driveway of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's home at St. Michaels, Md."

For sure an Islamic website , right?

... No, NYTimes website .. june 30 / 06 ...a photo by Linda Spillers for The New York Times of Rumsfeld's summer home.... with caption above - Article By PETER T. KILBORN - Published: June 30, 2006
(i checked it and it is there) .....

travel2 Dauht nytimes Daugh Kalm -2006 -06 -30 -travel -escapes -30michaels Dauht html ("-" = "/" , no spaces)

apparently same for Cheny home, i havnt located it yet.
ummmm.

exactly why did i or anyone need to know all this?
this is a progressing excalation of where they are going ....beyond printing words that can harm ..... beyond verbal attacks ....now descriptive and visual HELP .....of course, the real enemy is within ..


what will be their next "need to know goody?" how far will they go?


TTigerAtty 63M

7/1/2006 9:15 am

    Quoting rm_Twister2bed:
    Welcome back to the family TTiger I was afraid you were lost to us and I was gonna have to rub you out

    Side Note Tige you were 100% right on with the last post. It was in this mornings papers, HAHA Blaming Bush for the flooding here in Pa.
    And why he wasn't doing anything about it.

    I mean HOLY CRAP whats up with Dem's these days the rivers were still on the rise and flood in progress and BLAME BUSH??????
    WTF was he supposed to do wave his hand and command the waters to recede like Moses? And are the state and local democrats so inept they needed federal assistance that soon? Never would have heard Tom Ridge say anything like that drivel.
    RANT OFF.
I'm afraid it's an insidious disease that afflicts all of us increasingly. We look to the 'nanny state' to take care of us from cradle to grave! We are slowing but surely losing the 'American Can Do' spirit! I have noted more of a 'Can Do' attitude there in your state, in New York, in Florida and others when hit with natural disasters! I hope you've been able to get the water out of your basement and begin recovery operations!

Whatever we do in this country, we must never lose that good ol' 'American Can Do' attitude. The Libs (and Moderates) want to get us all dependent on Big Government, and, to a great extent, they are succeeding!


TTigerAtty 63M

7/1/2006 9:17 am

    Quoting MOfunNOWWOW:
    Truman is one proud Tiger! Lookin good but politics...still {=}

    Where is the sex, the book, the poetry

    Give em hell Harry..er Tiger!
I've decided that fighting back extreme Liberalism is more important than whether or not I get a blowjob! Wait a minute! Did I say that?!


TTigerAtty 63M

7/1/2006 9:20 am

You've come to the right place then! We'll help you view the world through the eyes of "Compassionate Conservatism"! Keep us honest with your humor, ol' boy!


TTigerAtty 63M

7/1/2006 9:24 am

    Quoting rm_magnet4u22:
    James Carville is a true saint by getting along with Mary. People just have to know what is important and when to table a discussion.
I think James Carville is a 'Closet Compassionate Conservative'! Actually, I kinda like Carville. He's good at what he does! Could be that Mary Matalin is a saint as well?! I'll bet they don't even believe in all the stuff they say. They're just making money to spin politics for each side of the aisle!


TTigerAtty 63M

7/1/2006 9:26 am

Hugs! Jeb Bush in 2008!


TTigerAtty 63M

7/1/2006 9:39 am

    Quoting sillyperv:
    Limbaugh, Coulter, Gingrich, Rove, Cheny et al are compassionate conservatives? I'd hate to meet the vengeful ones. Regardless of their view of the world, whenever I see them on the television or read their thoughts (Rove and Cheny being far brighter than the other three) they come off as people with contempt and loathing for their fellow man.
    Which is the funny thing about the Bush, I never get the impression of him being inherently bad, just willing to follow orders. Clinton of course was a scoundral. The kind that women love, well, except for Hillary.
Compassionate Conservatives, Maudlin Moderates and Loveable Liberals! We're all in it together! The only question is: "Whose policies and programs will advance our common good!" I think that can change depending upon the issue and the particular point and circumstances in time. For example, FDR is credited with the big expansion of the USA Federal Government during the depression, but it's a good thing that he tried something to get America back to work and back on our feet once again! FDR might be seen as a Compassionate Conservative in today's view of the political spectrum, lifting the country out of economic problems and reluctantly going to war to preserve freedom and democracy against tyranny.

In hindsight, even us Conservatives have to give President Clinton his due. In hindsight, impreachment has hurt our nation, divided us along party lines and will fire the fuel of a retaliatory impeachment proceeding against a Republican president as soon as the Democrats can put together a legitimate case. God help us if we don't break the cycle and start supporting our Presidents, be they Democrat or Republican.

Italy keeps on winning! Congrats!


TTigerAtty 63M

7/1/2006 9:51 am

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:

    Where the hell did carville get in here .. lmao

    say, i'll get u the New York Times web page showing clearly where the survielance cameras are at Dick & Rummy's places ... really cute ..... the REAL enemy is within ... im writing a new book ....

    ya, damned bush ... those floods
I find it so laughable that they label conservatives (or anyone who doesn't agree with Liberalism, the state religion) as fascists, nazis, the evil Christian right, and so forth. And yet, it is usually the Libs who go to these extreme measures to suppress people who don't agree with them.

The Liberal definition of an idealogue is someone who won't give in and capitulate to them!

They might catch Rummy reading the Bible or drinking a glass of scotch on his front porch! And they might catch cuddly Dick Cheney cleaning his shotgun on his patio in the backyard! Lord, now that would be front page news for the New York Times! I hope the Times, its reporters and then damned leakers in the government get prosecuted for this last little episode of publicizing exactly how we are investigating suspicious financial transactions! I hope U.S. businesses will have the courage to begin pulling ads.

Liberals will get us all killed unless we keep them in check!


good_time_chuck 55M

7/2/2006 8:56 am

I honestly think that the parties have reversed in the last few years. My grandfather was a card carrying Dem he now is a registered Republican. His philosophies have not changed. He is 97 and for him to radically alter his views would damn near be impossible. He has told me on different occasions how the party of FDR and Kennedy is now the Republican party. With increased interest in the social welfare of the people the Republicans have become the Democrats of old. While the Democratic party has no new vision and is swinging towards the radical side like the Republicans of old.


TTigerAtty 63M

7/2/2006 11:33 am

I agree with your grandfather that the Democratic Party of several decades ago was more like the Republican Party of today. However, the Democratic Party is being influenced to a greater and greater extent by it's left wing. Both parties in my opinion have drifted further toward the left over the past several decades. Thanks for dropping by!


TheCliticals 36F/F

7/2/2006 7:17 pm

You truly puzzle me. Ive read so many of your blogs and I still dont understand what your core values are, what you believe in, what you want, why you [ost on this site, and what sort of world you think would be a perfect one.

Without cutting and pasting from other commentators or journalists, and without relying on attacks on the values of others, can you please, in your own words, succincently state them, because if I have to read through another long cut and paste of your Im truly giving up on you.

Sandy


TTigerAtty 63M

7/3/2006 8:14 am

Sandy,

Good to see you again!

Don't you know that Conservatives are always perceived as an enigma by Liberals? Therefore, I can understand why you are puzzled.

Perhaps I can help you by addressing some of your questions:

1. I post political stuff on this site just to get "under the skin" of Liberals who cannot understand any point of view other than their own. I enjoy the debate, and I learn from the exchange of ideas. Would you have me stop posting altogether or would you prefer to edit my material before I post it?

2. My current core values result from my upbringing as a child as well as my experiences and study as an adult in the USA. I was born in the USA, have midwestern values and have never lived in a foreign country. I have traveled outside of the USA but only into Mexico and Canada. So, my exposure to the rest of the world is very limited. My daughter has studied a bit in London, traveled to Ireland, France and Italy. Someday, I hope to take a month to travel all over Europe with her.

3. I believe in a lot of things. Most important among these, I believe that: You don't tug on Superman's cape, You don't spit into the wind, You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger,
And you don't mess around with Jim, da do da do...


4. What sort of world do I think would be a perfect world? ... We won't have a perfect world in THIS world.

Does it "bug" you that I quote from others on occasion? In this posting, my only quote was a one-line quote from Shakespeare. I thought that you would approve of me quoting an Englishman? Liberals quote other people, so why, then, can't I?

Does it "bug" you to read something other than what you would like to read? How would you like to change me? To be exactly like you? To be a Liberal? What would make you happy, hon? This after all, is just politics! Try to be happy!

In a previous comment made on my blog, you have labeled me a fascist and a neo-Nazi. I found this rather amusing, yet somewhat typical of leftists' tactics. Do you actually seek to shutdown my right to express my views, and would you do it by any means necessary? Would you label people fascists and neo-Nazis in order to demonize them and perhaps get them to back off and go along with your viewpoints?

I've seen much of this dynamic on this site! I have been called many things, I have had comments deleted and I have been banned because I dared disagree with a Loveable Liberal Lady on this site. By contrast, I have never deleted anyone's comment or banned anyone from my blog. My attitude is bring it on! I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with me, and I'm actually "interested" in different viewpoints. Although "interested" in opposing viewpoints, I will reserve the right to believe as I choose.

My father fought the fascists and the Nazis during WWII, so it really bothers me when people throw around labels like that. Here is the dictionary definition for fascism:

"A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism."

Sandy, I have voiced my viewpoints, which are by and large Conservative to Moderate. I have pointed out the absurdities I perceive with Liberalism. Liberals will voice their opinions, and I will continue to voice mine. I have never once called a Liberal a fascist or neo-Nazi, because I understand what that term means. We will never have a fascist form of government in the USA, I can assure you of that!

Conservative viewpoints can stand or fall on their own merits, and I do not need to censor people from expressing their Liberal views. You may continue attempting to CENSOR my views if you so choose, but in so doing, you will become that which to claim to abhor.

The Liberal definition of an idealogue is someone who won't give in to them. I will continue to think and believe as I choose. If I don't agree with you or Liberals or Kansas Jayhawk fans, that is my right to do so. And, if I don't "give in", it doesn't necessarily mean I'm an idealogue, fascist, neo-Nazi or anything else. It just means I disagree. If you want to "give up on me" because I don't agree with modern-day Liberalism, then so be it.

You mentioned that your grandfather is a member of the House of Lords. I find that fascinating, and I applaud him for his sense of civic duty and willingness to serve. I'd be interested to hear more about him.

Whether we will ever agree on anything at all, I appreciate your friendship and the friendship of Prime Minister Tony Blair and the government of your country. We have an admitted "mess" in Iraq, and I hope that someway on another our President Bush, your Prime Minister Blair and Iraq's Prime Minister Maliki will be able to figure out an acceptable national reconciliation plan and reconstruction plan for Iraq.


TTigerAtty 63M

7/3/2006 8:23 am

    Quoting newaroundhere64:
    Good for you, Tige! Now you can say you walked a mile in the other guys' mocassins, or Birkenstocks. Whatever. Anyway, the point is you tried to see it from the other side. That takes courage.

    It's also the #1 rule of Dale Carnegie- seek first to understand, then to be understood.

    Perhaps you can enlighten me as to how keeping the seperation of church and state is such a bad thing???
Thanks for dropping by! Have a great 4th!

I think we need to get our politicians to sit down behind closed doors away from cameras and begin having constructive dialogue. The media interrupts the process of understanding different points of view and polarizes our politicians and ultimately the American electorate.

I wish they'd go into closed session regarding the Iraq situation and not come out until they have an "American Resolution" to present to the Bush Administration. After 40 months, we've got to get all heads together and figure this thing out vs. politicizing it.

Oh boy, church and state! That would make for a real volatile posting and lots of good discussion! I'll post something IF you'll promise to come back and make a thoughtful comment. I know you have some excellent background in this area, and I'd appreciate learning your ideas about this topic.

Thanks for the Dale Carnegie tip! I will try to keep that one in my head!


sillyperv 55M

7/3/2006 5:11 pm

AAArrrrrrggggggghhhhh! I nearly got through without feeling an overwhelming need to natter.

Centralization of power - a government ignoring it's own constitution to the point where it is rebuked by it's own appointed court.

Stringent socioeconomic controls - instituting a corporate welfare state, fueled by militarism. Creating trade agreements so that every worker is competing with a counterpart 6000 miles and a country away. Defining success by the bottomline on a spreadsheet, true or not. All to ensure that the owners of the country remains the owners.

Suppression of opposition through censorship and terror - creating demons to cow the public to obediance. Ridiculing and ostracizing opposition as unpatriotic, treason, criminal, liberal so as to avoid responding to their critics.

Nationalism and racism - The over use of nationalist back drops, flags, eagles, etc in the presentation of information. Hiding behind the "flag" as a means to justify behaviours in violation of international law. The willingness to tar an entire faith by the worst of it's followers to justify a war.

There are degrees of fascism. If the cabal around Bush aren't fascists, they strike me as willing to use the techniques to fulfill their ends.

OoOOOOOoooOOO! Chruch and State. That would be a good one!


blueguy1051 61M

7/3/2006 8:22 pm

    Quoting TheCliticals:
    You truly puzzle me. Ive read so many of your blogs and I still dont understand what your core values are, what you believe in, what you want, why you [ost on this site, and what sort of world you think would be a perfect one.

    Without cutting and pasting from other commentators or journalists, and without relying on attacks on the values of others, can you please, in your own words, succincently state them, because if I have to read through another long cut and paste of your Im truly giving up on you.

    Sandy
I believe the short answer to your question was "no".


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/68F
3394 posts
7/3/2006 10:19 pm


Oh, oh ....First hint that we have an AirCanada spinoff of Air(head)America up here ... hmmm, it's catching i guess. .... and as a result, does that mean all of it's believers are also owned lock stock and hockey stick by Soros? ..... doesn't surprise me at all tho.

Maybe my severe distaste for my know - it - all fella canukys penchant for putting down another country ...........when there is FAR more to clean up back home in in their own country ....... is getting to me.


RevJoseyWales 70M/67F
14393 posts
7/4/2006 11:30 am

Tig, you are SO full of shit. You made a good run with the scam tho'. It was kinda funny. Problem was, you only fooled your own readers. Which kinda says something to me. So it's back to the same silliness I see. OK, just checking. Joe

"McVeigh had the right idea, wrong address."

"This ain't Dodge City, and you ain't Bill Hickok."


TheCliticals 36F/F

7/5/2006 1:25 am

Dear TTiger,
While you continue to misconstrue, I thank you for your effort in response to my comment
Sandy


TTigerAtty 63M

7/5/2006 8:10 am

    Quoting blueguy1051:
    I believe the short answer to your question was "no".
Always good to welcome you to my blog, Blue. There are no short answers to long, complicated and "loaded" questions, my friend. But, I'm sure you already know that.


TTigerAtty 63M

7/5/2006 8:13 am

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:

    Oh, oh ....First hint that we have an AirCanada spinoff of Air(head)America up here ... hmmm, it's catching i guess. .... and as a result, does that mean all of it's believers are also owned lock stock and hockey stick by Soros? ..... doesn't surprise me at all tho.

    Maybe my severe distaste for my know - it - all fella canukys penchant for putting down another country ...........when there is FAR more to clean up back home in in their own country ....... is getting to me.
We all have things to clean up in our own backyards to make this a better world. I appreciate your observation.


TTigerAtty 63M

7/5/2006 8:20 am

    Quoting RevJoseyWales:
    Tig, you are SO full of shit. You made a good run with the scam tho'. It was kinda funny. Problem was, you only fooled your own readers. Which kinda says something to me. So it's back to the same silliness I see. OK, just checking. Joe
Joe, I gave it the old college try, but I have to be true to myself. I just could not make the conversion. The Libs were hoping that I'd have an epiphany, but it just never happened.

I know they won't like this and that I will have to brace myself for their vicious attacks. I feel somewhat like Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut. All my loveable liberal friends are deserting me!


TTigerAtty 63M

7/5/2006 8:23 am

    Quoting TheCliticals:
    Dear TTiger,
    While you continue to misconstrue, I thank you for your effort in response to my comment
    Sandy
Sandy, my apologizies if I have "misconstrued" something. Blue felt my response to you was a bit too verbose. For this, I apologize as well.


TTigerAtty 63M

7/5/2006 9:53 am

    Quoting sillyperv:
    AAArrrrrrggggggghhhhh! I nearly got through without feeling an overwhelming need to natter.

    Centralization of power - a government ignoring it's own constitution to the point where it is rebuked by it's own appointed court.

    Stringent socioeconomic controls - instituting a corporate welfare state, fueled by militarism. Creating trade agreements so that every worker is competing with a counterpart 6000 miles and a country away. Defining success by the bottomline on a spreadsheet, true or not. All to ensure that the owners of the country remains the owners.

    Suppression of opposition through censorship and terror - creating demons to cow the public to obediance. Ridiculing and ostracizing opposition as unpatriotic, treason, criminal, liberal so as to avoid responding to their critics.

    Nationalism and racism - The over use of nationalist back drops, flags, eagles, etc in the presentation of information. Hiding behind the "flag" as a means to justify behaviours in violation of international law. The willingness to tar an entire faith by the worst of it's followers to justify a war.

    There are degrees of fascism. If the cabal around Bush aren't fascists, they strike me as willing to use the techniques to fulfill their ends.

    OoOOOOOoooOOO! Chruch and State. That would be a good one!
There you go again, [blog sillyperv]! You're being preposterous in your accusations against our government and you are demonstrating by regurgitating the liberal drumbeat of talking points against our country you're intolerance for the way we do things in America. Why do you care to come here and comment in a negative way about our country, government and way of doing things? You, of course, are free to do so, but I was just wondering what your stake in America is? Don't you have enough to worry about there in Canada? You see, I seek not to criticize your country. I figure you Canadians will take care of things up there.

See my response to TheCliticals regarding these little humorous and alarmist accusations of "fascism" that you leftists like to throw out. Bottomline - My sense is that those of you who point fingers should look into the mirror. The problem is that you just want to criticize Americans, our government and you will stop at nothing to support your critical rantings. You appear to be transfixed on the USA and our policies.

This is a sovereign country, and we have our own laws, silly. I know you leftists would like to subjugate us to your ever increasing body of so-called "international laws". Sorry, not interested! The liberals in our courts also want to apply precedent from court rulings in foreign lands to our legal decisions. You see, silly, they particularly love to do that when they are trying to advance some liberal cause which cannot be advanced through legislation. You libs have centralized a lot of power in the courts through the appointment of liberal judges who "interpret the constitution" so as to advance your causes. So, at least, be intellectually honest when discussing the centralization of power in the USA. The courts have had way too much power for way too long (40 years), but we here in the USA are about making some corrective adjustments to that problem. And that will be something else for you to bellyache about!

"Centralization of power" accusation! Surely you jest! At a minimum, you just don't understand our system of government with equal, seperate branches of government. Each branch may at any point in time overreach, but it is then brought back into equilibrium by the other two. If the Executive Branch has overreached in the case of detention and processing of detainees from the war on terrorism, then this will be brought back into equilibrium, but you leftist critics will still bellyache! Because that's all you ever do! Bellyache! Us conservatives never hear you fellas bellyache when our courts overreach to provide liberals the things they cannot gain through legislation.

"Stringent socioeconomic controls" - I thought you were brighter than that! This is a free-trade, regulated capitalist economy. You can't compete, you go out of business to make room for those who can, ala many of our airline companies. You provide great service and fair prices and you thrive, ala Wal-Mart. "Creating trade agreements so that every worker is competing with a counterpart 6000 miles and a country or world away." Wake up and smell the coffee! This is a world economy, and we either learn to compete and trade with other countries or we fall behind. America will manage, my friend. Don't worry about us! Besides by trading with other countries, we help the people of those countries prosper and raise their standard of living. Hopefully, higher standards of living, more education and greater stake in trading partner countries will lead toward less starvation in the world, more stable governments and less conflict among countries. Do you want to try something else such as Isolationism, Communism or Socialism?

"Suppression of opposition through censorship and terror" - Yes, I wish you leftists would quit doing that. Again, you must be smoking wacky tobacky! We have more open political dissent in this country than perhaps any other country in the world, save your country and the United Kingdom. The last I looked, Sen. Teddy Kennedy, Sen. Chuckie Schumer, Sen. Hilary Clinton, Sen. John Kerry, et al did not appear to be cowering in the public arena! Come on! Surely you leftists can spin better than that! You make this entirely too easy for me!

"Nationalism and racism" - Hey, what can I say? Us Americans are proud of Ol'Glory, our bald eagles and our national monuments all throughout our great land. Our national symbols are the property of the people and not any one political party. "The willingness to tar an entire faith by the worst of it's followers" - More of your leftist, bullshit rhetoric! You don't know WTF you are talking about! We have one of the most open societies on the face of the earth. We have people from all countries, ethnic groups, religious faiths and political persuasions in this country. You don't know what the hell you are talking about, silly! But, we don't put our heads in the sand and believe, as apparently you Libs believe and would have us all believe, that if we'll just ignore this problem of fanatical Islamic fundamentalism that is breeding terrorism throughout a good bit of the world, they will simply stop killing innocent people. You see, silly, liberal ideas like that, while they sound so sweet and altruistic and while I so wish they were true, will simply just get us all killed!

"If the cabal around Bush aren't fascists, they strike me as willing to use the techniques to fulfill their ends."

Definition of cabal: A conspiratorial group of plotters or intriguers: "Espionage is quite precisely a cabal of powerful men, working secretly"

There you go again, silly! I shouldn't even dignify some of this with a response, but what the hell, we, at least, can talk about golf and soccer without taking opposite sides. A lesson on American presidental terms: We elect Presidents and Vice-Presidents to serve for a term of four years, and then we have another election and do it all over again. U.S. Presidents and Vice-Presidents may serve only two terms. Bush/Cheney won reelection over Kerry/Lieberman in 2004 and will serve out their second term till January of 2009. In November of 2008, the American people will choose again.

So Mister silly, if Bush and Cheney are a "cabal of fascists", then they're our own little homegrown, red, white and blue American "cabal". And, some in our country, particularly some of our Texans, might resent a foreigner like you for throwing such inflammatory words around. As for myself, I find you quite harmless, and I believe that your words and attitudes should be remain displayed here for as many as possible to see ... to see the attitude, the thinking and the hatred that has come to represent modern-day liberalism.

I would certainly like to help you see things from another viewpoint. You are a very intelligent fellow and you are very passionate about politics. You would be a great advocate for the causes of conservatism! If only we could someday help you see some of the fallacies in the Religion of Liberalism!


RevJoseyWales 70M/67F
14393 posts
7/5/2006 3:24 pm

Back to the glass pipe I see. Ahh well, at least the pseudo conversion was funny and readable. Yes, Bush et al are screamingly facist. Can anyone say war criminals? I can. Hitler would have been proud of Bush, and Goebbels would have ADORED Rove. The only reason Bush kept Cheney is for life insurance. No one would ever assinate Bush to get Cheney as President. Except Cheney. Now assult MY patriotism if you will. That'll be a laugh and a half. BTW, I can trace my family here to pre revolutionary days, and I don't mind a bit if sillyperv trashes Bush, because EVERY WORD that he wrote is true. Speak only for yourself Tig. Always remember that. When you try speaking for others, you'll always get called out on it.

"McVeigh had the right idea, wrong address."

"This ain't Dodge City, and you ain't Bill Hickok."


TheCliticals 36F/F

7/6/2006 12:14 am

I rather enjoyed the fiction that you used to write and much prefer it to your political posts, as humorous as they can be at times.
Dee


TTigerAtty 63M

7/7/2006 11:09 am

    Quoting RevJoseyWales:
    Back to the glass pipe I see. Ahh well, at least the pseudo conversion was funny and readable. Yes, Bush et al are screamingly facist. Can anyone say war criminals? I can. Hitler would have been proud of Bush, and Goebbels would have ADORED Rove. The only reason Bush kept Cheney is for life insurance. No one would ever assinate Bush to get Cheney as President. Except Cheney. Now assult MY patriotism if you will. That'll be a laugh and a half. BTW, I can trace my family here to pre revolutionary days, and I don't mind a bit if sillyperv trashes Bush, because EVERY WORD that he wrote is true. Speak only for yourself Tig. Always remember that. When you try speaking for others, you'll always get called out on it.
"Glass pipe" - Something one uses to smoke marijuana or opium I suppose? Never felt a need for it, myself. Budweiser, Bud Light, Black Jack Daniels whiskey, Tanqueray gin and Macallan scotch are my favorite mind-expanding chemical substances.

"War criminal" - Bring on Nancy Pelosi, John Murtha, et al with your impeachment charges! I'd love to see the Democrats implode! You lefties just chant slogans and throw out labels! Why don't you don't you do something for Pete's sake ... er uh like win a national election, bring impeachment proceedings IF you'r so damned sure of your charges, etc. I (and many other reasonable people) grow tired of your harping and whining! But, it is your right to do so ... it's just that most people in USA are smart enough to look past the sloganeering.

It is always interesting to see how the Bush-bashers call GWB stupid and dull-witted on the one hand and then bemoan his political ability to outwit the Democrats at every turn on the other hand. Yes, Dick Cheney is our insurance against an ill-considered impeachment attempt. George was pretty crafty in picking my main man, Dick Cheney! (Well, to be honest, Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh and few others also had a hand in the decision!)


TTigerAtty 63M

7/7/2006 11:15 am

    Quoting TheCliticals:
    I rather enjoyed the fiction that you used to write and much prefer it to your political posts, as humorous as they can be at times.
    Dee
That fiction stuff bored me! I like the political stuff better. It makes for more lively discussion. People can drop by and agree with me, adding their twists to the post, or they can drop by and call me hateful names. I enjoy both! Almost as stimulating as a blowjob


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