The ♥QUR'AN♥ - MuhamMAD's Blatant MEIN KAMPF  

LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
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9/29/2005 1:03 pm
The ♥QUR'AN♥ - MuhamMAD's Blatant MEIN KAMPF

Qur'an 9:5 "Fight, kill, bring terror to the hearts of disbelievers harass them,.... ambush them ...”
Islam♥, Religion of Peace
Qur'an Sunnah Hadith etc "Peacefully"
Ordering - Yes, Ordering ...... ALL Muslims - Yes, ALL Muslims,
(& especially the Silent "Moderate Good Guys" ) to

Peacefully & Deceptively Craft
The Entire World
Into One
Islamic Caliphate
via Violent & Total Jihad
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Exactly as per 256 verses so far, still counting .... "Death & Eternal HellFire" for those who don't help
Qur’an: 2:216 Jihad & Warfare...in Allah’s Cause is Ordained ...and Ordered for All Muslims
Why I Am Doing This
Since 1991 when we first sensed a growing pattern in violent events worldwide, we have very closely observed the actions of Islam throughout the world.
The "stealth" objective, to use ANY means imagionable to make the world into one Islamic Caliphape - ruled by Islam under Sharia law.

They are "QUR'AN ORDERED"
to Make the Entire World into One Islamic Caliphate,


NOTHING WE DO
Or Change for them will stop or even slow them

Read the Qur'an - They "HAVE TO do it, or Die & Roast in Fire"
They ARE DOING IT - Yet We are NOT Stopping them
(How many 9/11s must we have to "wise up" )
Smell the Coffee Folks!


"ALL Muslims"
are Ordered to fight for these dark objectives,
OR, Roast in "HellFire" Forever
Their decision, is Obvious, DUH!!
THEY ALL WILL OBEY
.


Salman Rushdie
Tried to Warn Us in the 80s with his "Satanic Verses"
For Exposing their Deceitful & Demonic Plans for the World - he was Condemned to Death
plus a 5 M. US Bounty placed "for his head" by their Top ♥Spiritual Mullah♥ Guy on February 14,1989

Obviously Mr. Rushdie didn't do it for "The Good of HIS Health"
(Hmmm, 5 M for Salman. Wonder how much for a Pope's Head?)
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Read The Qur'an - Smell the Coffee Folks
-

Qur’an: 3:151 "Cast Terror upon AllDisbelievers .... Convert or face Death & HellFire
Qur'an, Religious Book of Tolerance
For Believers Acting Against Non-Believers,
Total Tolerance of, plus Encouragement & Rewards for:
Murder, Terror, Revenge, Slaughter, Deceipt, Lies, Pedophilia,
, Supressing Women, Slavery, Phscopaths ... Pillaging, and lots more
Qur'an 4:34 "Men are in Rule Women .....Allah made them Inferior ... and Subservient
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The ♥QUR'AN♥ - Muham "mad"s MEIN KAMPF
By a Cruel Ruthless Warmonger - to "Sanctify" & Perpetuate - Cruel Ruthless Warmongering
along with Pedophilia, , Plundering, World Conquest / Calipahate & other "good" things

Some QUR'AN VERSES What it Really Says About Us Them - - - N Korea Iran - - - Ahmadinejads Latest ARMAGEDDAJODs
Reuters Latest: Iran's top mullah called for "more protests over the pontiff's remarks" -

Their Deceptive EXCUSES are Effective "Cons for the Naive"
Very Effectively Concealing the actual REASONS

Most, (even the apparent "tough on them" US president) Don't "Get It".
He, and most hope Muslim "moderates" will "Take Back Islam"
THEY WILL NOT!! - Because they CAN NOT!!
(Read the Qur'an Folks)

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"♥Nice♥" P.C. Libs
The Vitriol is NOT MY Words
It is the Sweet Words of the "♥Peacefull♥" Qur'an Sunnah Hadith

(I'm sure you keep copies handy in your Ivory Towers)
What?, You Hav'nt Read Them? Oh, Really? Then, based on what?
did you volunteer to be "used" as "effective tools" for their "♥Peacefull♥" purposes?
Oh!!, You "get your accurate info from their Imams, the press, etc."

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Read Them, Damn It, Then
Smell the Bloody Coffee -

Today's ♥Peacefull♥ Examples
(via Reuters)
"War against ... the West will go on until Islam takes over the world"
"Jihad will 'never stop until Allah avails us to chop your necks'
"


(Now, There's 2 Imams with real "ways with words" )
I Guess they skipped "Suck the Libs in & Use Them 101" ... Lil S

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Qur'an 4:34 "Men are in Rule Women .....Allah made them Inferior ... and Subservient
Stay tuned for our up... cum...ing Post ... using ONLY "his own sweet words"
♥Muham"mad"♥, The Prophet of DOOM
We are compiling his Qur'an etc. verses to support upcuming posts on what this guy is "REALLY All About"

Qur’an: 2:216 Jihad ...in Allah’s Cause is ordained for Muslims, .... “Warfare is ordained for you."

Some QUR'AN VERSES What it Really Says About Us Them
The Literal Verses - Instructions & Marching Orders
for the Entire Flock




KMA5 42M
771 posts
11/29/2005 5:55 am

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LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
1/4/2006 3:04 pm

Thanks Guy!!

There are many (100+) on a site of ours ... u will find how to get to them on one or more of the lead posts


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
5/13/2006 5:35 pm

And, cause they didnt cause it, they dont get the 72 virgins!!!! .... ultimate gotchya!!


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
5/13/2006 7:07 pm


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LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/12/2006 4:09 pm


Hamas Calls Off Truce: Hamas Rockets Israel, Israel strikes back. Hamas > "We Will Kill Civilians at Time of Our Choosing" - "The Earthquake in the Zionist towns will Start Again,"
(LilSquirt > "and Yasser's Legacy Lives On, & on...." )

Zarqawi Killed: 17 Simultaneous Al Qaeda Safe-Houses Raided for weapons & Info - 39 more similar raids last night, gleen info & weapons, .....and build on the momentum and opportunity during temporary chaos.
Bush > "A Start, Iraq PM > "An Opportunity", Pelosi, Ried, and collage of cohorts. > About time! So, Now Bring Troops Back!!"
(LilSquirt > "Oh Sure, and give Zaq success for his mission, in death?" )

Canada Terror Group Busted:: Homegrown Terror, the fear of many in the know, is real. 3X the explosive power of Oaklahoma purchased, Parliament threatened, CBC, National Security office, Elected Officials to be beheaded, etc. (LilSquirt > The dread of many who understand the how's and why's of Islamic radical terror is now OPEN news .... most figure it also applies to the US & Europe. With dozens of similar mosque basement groups in ALL countries, good old passive Canada is EXTREMELY vulnerable and likely will be hit HARD, and SOON.


rm_ventialtor
44 posts
6/17/2006 9:24 am

squirt -- i dare -- tell me about your conversations with your iranian friend - vent.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/17/2006 10:05 am


lol @ vent ...... ..... maybe im unfairly suspicious, i have a feeling, way back inside, that you are just bein ventialtor, lol, and smirkin as you said it, calling me on my words, lol. I dont see any major input from you, so maybe ur just darin me

well, is very much typin, i will be getting to it tho as time goes on ... kind of an inside look at the iranian / muslim scene ...... and some scary thots .. in that it is as bad and future potential dangerous as we can imagion ... in other words, at least at the higher end of the concern spectrum ... maybe even higher ..........

i will say now, and it will frame his position / inside take on things ..that he is now in process of attempting to move family back home because of the retaliation he expects when, not if, many serious things happen in Canada. I get strong feeling they mean soon, not later also.


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
6/17/2006 4:10 pm

.....J,

Not really suprizing since anyone paying any kind of attention can see the writing on the wall so to speak. I expect to see many changes here as well as there as each government responds to threats and actions taken against us.

Hugzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/18/2006 9:55 am

jackie

yes, the witing is on the wall ... seems most are in denial of course .... takes being bit to learn for most ...... You and us have been aware always, i know, so can look at it as it really is.

Some things one wishes to not be proven right, however the future results of age old jihad coming into play more and more, is too far along the way and to vast to stop.... all we will ever be able to do is minimize it here and there somewhat.
J.


rm_upforsumfun2 56M
26 posts
6/23/2006 3:07 am

Hi there Squirt- A bold move to discuss something so heavy on here but I applaud it!

I grew up and lived in Bradford,England amid a large local Muslim population and witnessed a growing extremism amongst the local muslim youth-to the extent that anything that "Brothers" did within the host community was seen as acceptable so long as it was deemed to be within their faith and it was this growing militancy and sense of underlying tension which caused me to move out of that city!

It's interesting to see that UK and Canadian security forces detained several people including 2 from Bradford within the last 2 weeks on suspicion of terror offences.

Might I suggest that the true danger does not lie with the Arab and muslim fundamentalists active within their own countries but with the highly politicised muslim youths living in western countries who are becoming prepared to take up arms on behalf of their ideological masters


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/23/2006 10:18 am

upfor ... Yes, a lil brave i suppose, lol.....some can reactive rather silly to the subject, often driven by agendas often motivated by political gain, or used as excuse to vent their hate for their own society. Insightfull concepts, such as yours, inspired by and derived from facts are welcome.

thank you for a more 1st hand look at things. How you describe these groups or collections relates excactly to what we are finding here in canada and in other countries.... and it is "growing" .. everywhere ... and "brothers" is a good word to describe it. I agree with the "local" aspect as the danger, may i just add to that, the origin of course is from abroad, and the abroad part continues to fuel it ... but, once going it needs progressively less direct push from abroad ... running and growing locally with only small doses or "pokes" of foreign input.

We will see how this topic evolves ...... so long as people deal from reality, it will work out. As we get time, we will go into the "actual reason" behind it all VS. the "excuses" and various "it's our fault" theories used to "justify" it ... . I do know that the reason is decades / centuries old ... .that it was building and coming for decades + ... and that short of all non muslims becoming muslim it would happen.

While many see it only as an annoyance of this decade, or something we can change by changing ourselves, we could not and cannot change it....it is our future no matter what we did or do. Our unforgivable sin, the only reason it is / will happen, is merely that we are not muslim .... all the "blame ourselves" theories serve only to perpetuate it and help it to be successfull.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/23/2006 10:35 am

upfor ... Yes, a lil brave i suppose, lol.....some can reactive rather silly to the subject, often driven by agendas often motivated by political gain, or used as excuse to vent their hate for their own society. Insightfull concepts, such as yours, inspired by and derived from facts are welcome.

thank you for a more 1st hand look at things. How you describe these groups or collections relates excactly to what we are finding here in canada and in other countries.... and it is "growing" .. everywhere ... and "brothers" is a good word to describe it. I agree with the "local" aspect as the danger, may i just add to that, the origin of course is from abroad, and the abroad part continues to fuel it ... but, once going it needs progressively less direct push from abroad ... running and growing locally with only small doses or "pokes" of foreign input.

We will see how this topic evolves ...... so long as people deal from reality, it will work out. As we get time, we will go into the "actual reason" behind it all VS. the "excuses" and various "it's our fault" theories used to "justify" it ... . I do know that the reason is decades / centuries old ... .that it was building and coming for decades + ... and that short of all non muslims becoming muslim it would happen.

While many see it only as an annoyance of this decade, or something we can change by changing ourselves, we could not and cannot change it....it is our future no matter what we did or do. Our unforgivable sin, the only reason it is / will happen, is merely that we are not muslim .... all the "blame ourselves" theories serve only to perpetuate it and help it to be successfull.


I have witnessed "moderate" muslims giggling themselves silly at those in our society who buy into their contrived "excuses", blame us and echo the "excuses" that the fundamentalists have placed out there knowing that many in our society would be easily suckered into.


rm_ventialtor
44 posts
6/23/2006 11:42 am

well, if the worry is local muslims, the question is can they ever "take over' a western nation -- I think the answer is no. In England people are pretty law abiding, but in the U.S. there is a well-armed "silent majority" that will 'take care' of the problem violently if it becomes severe and starts to impact their lives.

as for an international muslims,the existing states in the middle east have complicated agendas and all of them, except for Iran, have a strong interest in supressing the fundamentalists. And Iran is in a marginalized position because it is Shiite and Persian, plus there is a democratic tradition there which is putting the clerics under extreme pressure. And, needless to say, Russia won't let the Iranians screw around too much either for national security reasons and because of their own Muslim issues.

so all in all, i think the situation is not as bad you read in the press -- but then again, I could be wrong

i do think we will continue to have domestic terrorism, which is a terrible thing for all involved, but it won't destroy our societies. I mean England had terrorism from the IRA for years and years and it just became a fact of life.

sorry i didn't comment eariler -- i've been travelling


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/23/2006 11:51 am


This maimi thing verifies the "prison conversion" issue. We are surprised that so little has been found on this subject. Seems to us that this must be everywhere in the US....yet, so little has been found / made public in that country.

Why do i feel that this, plus Canada, UK, etc etc is merely the tiny tip of a huge monstrous iceberg??

Am i all alone on this?

UpFor ......... what you describe in Bradford exactly parallels a documentary that we saw on CBC the night of the Canada arrests ..... wherin a naive young quite left wingy idealistic reporter interviewed Englishmen on the perifery and muslims within their enclave inside of a small UK city (i forget name of city / town). He obviously became more and more fearfull and pessimistic with every interview. Seems UK tried similar "multicultural" approach which perpetuates problems .. the US "meltingpot" idea, while not a total cure, is a more solid approach ........ except that this "prison conversion" thing in the US is a setup for future trouble in itself.


rm_ventialtor
44 posts
6/23/2006 11:56 am

oh, and leave that bikini down, squirt! the rabbit's have a fun look and I am too!

v


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/23/2006 2:08 pm

vent

Yes, they will of course not "take over" ... that is not the issue i think ... ... however, thay will kill many ...many

Yes, the Iran thing is interesting ... the only country with a majority being Shia (except possibly yemen). That does present many permutations ..... what with messiah #2 destined to be sunni and to kill all the Shia (according to 6th century Shia prophets) ..... then, in 2 yrs, allah will deal with the sunnis (by killing them all of course) and the shia will all go to shia heaven.... armageddon and all that stuff .... if i was the suspicious type, looking at the current words of their pres. ... hmmmm ... u dont think ..... naw, .......

again, it's not country takeovers .... its continual neverending local folk stuff, fueled contimually by words and bucks from mainly Saudi Wahhabis, that is the problem .....

yes, they will not destroy society here ......at least not in terms of taking it over ....... in fact, that is not their objective ... however, the damage will be immense ... how immense only the future will tell.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/23/2006 2:18 pm

vent .. thank you for a great post ... u do have some depth on the subject, obviously

Yes, they will of course not "take over" ... that is not the issue i think ... ... however, they will kill many ...many

Yes, the Iran thing is interesting ... i see you are knowledgable on it ... most are not .....the only country with a majority being Shia (except possibly yemen). That does present many permutations ..... what with messiah #2 destined to be sunni and to kill all the Shia (according to 6th century Shia prophets) ..... then, in 2 yrs, allah will deal with the sunnis (by killing them all of course) and the shia will all go to shia heaven.... armageddon and all that stuff .... if i was the suspicious type, looking at the current words of their pres. ... hmmmm ... u dont think ..... naw, .......

again, it's not country takeovers .... its continual never ending local folk stuff, fueled continually by words and bucks from mainly Saudi Wahhabis, that is the problem .....

yes, they will not destroy society here ......at least not in terms of taking it over ....... in fact, that is not their objective ... however, the damage will be immense ... how immense only the future will tell.


Sometimes i get jumped on (other than sexually, lol) for taking past and current happenings and extrapolating things into the future ... i think for most, they prefer not to look into the future (the reliable ostich approach) .. many it seems cant handle looking beyond now.... and jump all over those who project the obvious.
ok, ok, ill leave the bikini down!!!!


rm_upforsumfun2 56M
26 posts
6/23/2006 3:11 pm

VENTILATOR-You're quite right about the UK terrorist situation with regard to the experiences with the IRA/INLA- people in the UK tend to revert to their "normal" lives quite quickly in the face of terror threats. The older generation still believes in the "spirit of the Blitz" wherwas the younger generation is probably too blase to care.
Elsewhere in Europe eg France,Germany,Italy,Spain and the Netherlands, they too have had their own terrorist campaigns to contend with and have reverted to a state of "normality".
It's really interesting to see the reaction in the US though! As the current Al-qaeeda campaign is their first real experience of terrorism since the Molly Maguires (not counting the Unabomber) it certainly seems to have galvanised the US people and the Government!

Wish I was a realtor selling Montana real estae right now!


rm_upforsumfun2 56M
26 posts
6/23/2006 3:14 pm

Does anyone know what the position of the Nation of Islam is on the current al-qaeeda threat?


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/23/2006 4:04 pm

hiya upfor

Montana real estate .. lol

Well, in fairness to the US, 9/11 was a lot more spectacular and horrendous in numbers and total destruction (realizing fully that to any individual involved directly, any incident is horrendous) ...this partly explains it .... to my observation, in fact, seems the US was back to business quite quickly ....... they talk abt it a lot, dont let that fool you, but day to day it seemed they got back to it very fast.

I guess we'll see how each actually reacts when it gets more prolific ... for all the above countries, it has not become prolific ....... yet.... (she says, listening for the other shoe to drop and very mystified and fearfull because it, or maybe they, hasnt).. ..... we have always felt, even before 9/11, that our country was prime target ... so many radicals we have coddled here ..... soon we will find how Canada reacts .very soon i think ... in fact, i will openly predict our nearby vancouver is highly likely and will be soon


"Nation of Island" position ... hmmmmm ...... good question ..... i will be keeping eye on for one ..... i dont have answer right now.


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
6/25/2006 3:37 am

....J,

You can be sure that the "shoe" is gonna drop and more then likely soon. The majority here in the US are of the opinion that its someone else's problem, you know the old can't happen here or to me syndrome (ostrich head in the sand types). Don't know if we'll ever have another one as horrific as 9/11 in terms of total destruction and number of killed/injured, but when it happens those directly involved won't care that the incident killed/injured fewer people.

The incident in Florida points to one of the fundamental problems we have in the US. Even though some if not many saw and heard things going on there, its the old “I don't want to get involved” problem. When are they going to learn that whether they like it or not we are all involved in this fight, and sticking you head in the sand still leaves their ass hanging out in the wind.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/25/2006 8:17 am

Yes, does seem 9/11 is forgotten, in the sense that it isnt going to happen "today", if ever again. I cant predict which will be 1st, an escalating series of smaller incidents or one big on ...eventually becoming nuke. .....likely a combination of small (local guys) & big (foreign organized).

We tend to forget what hasnt happened recently and become complacent... they never forget .... continue to hate / plot .. .they will never quit ... never


rm_ventialtor
44 posts
6/25/2006 10:42 pm

jackie -- i agree that there will be more coming -- but I think that 9-11 creates a big problem for them because it killed SO many people they will have trouble doing something that big again.

i do not think they will get nukes, because ANY government -- Pakistan, Korea, even Iran, knows that if they are proven as the source of a nuke, they will be destroyed by the U.S.

and, squirt -- I 100 percent agree that they will come back -- in the U.S. we have a very short time frame -- these people do not -- they will wait 20 years or more if necessary to take their 'revenge' - the fact that our memory here is so short has already hurt us and will continue to hurt us down the line.

and I'd move to Montana, but I'd rather take my chances with the nuts in New York than the nuts out there! although I never met a NATIVE montannan who wasn't great - it's the wack jobs that move out there . . .

vent.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/26/2006 8:38 am

hiya vent

1. yes, 9/11 did make it dificult to beat, for them.... and may be a factor ... in nothing happeneing since ... seems smaller attacks would be easy .... could be partially that they are unorganizes due to pressure put on them combined with this factor.

2. Allowing what you said as valid, dirty materials are everywhere .... and would be logical route ..... nukes i still think are likely, possibly lots of Russian nukes out there since the breakup ...... theft or inside job without country's ok are possibilities .... i agree with your point logically, but still feel that is what they are waiting for. Bio or Chenical also are always on the table.

3. yes, for sure - they are patient, we are not in our "noe" society ... their patience plus our impatience is our achilles heel.

4. so true .... the western mountain folks are super .. used to visite there in Glacier area ... yes, lots of nutjobs have moved there .. lots.


rm_upforsumfun2 56M
26 posts
6/27/2006 12:22 am

..............Breaking News........................

A 21 year old Bradford man detained at Manchester airport 2 weeks ago is to appear before Bow St. magistrates in London today.
The man,as yet un-named was apparently on route to Canada and was arrested following a combined operation involving UK and Canadian Security services.
The man faces charges under the UK Terror Act and is also charged with conspiricy to cause death by useof explosives or poisonous substances.

source BBCTv News


rm_upforsumfun2 56M
26 posts
6/27/2006 12:35 am

..............Breaking News........................

News just in - 250 police officers have taken part in anti-terrorist raids in the Greater Manchester area. No further details at present except that officers are believed to have raided an address in the Bolton area.

Further update- 2 people arrested in Manchester terror raids.

source BBCTv News

NB Bolton has a large Muslim community so it is being assumed that the raids and arrests are connected to the raids in West Yorkshire and the arrest of a man 2 weeks ago at Manchester Airport


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/27/2006 7:50 am

thanks upfor

seems even tho there's local groups everywhere, communications and more between groups internationally exists

saw a documentary sorta news show last night on the mosque the 17 came from ..... i had thot it would be clandestin groups within mosques mainly .... yet, for example, he openly espouses that 911 didnt happen and / or was US inspired, literally tells entire congregation to hate Canadian ways, ... supports Taliban in Afgan ..... OBL?, well, "any organization can make 1 mistake"? .. we allow this to go on untill many more die .. then, maybe we will act ... after the damage is done ...i guess Col Hunt's book tells it all ..... "We Just Dont Get It" ...they focussed on a cpl of 6 year olds in the congregation .... damn,

im coming to the conclusion that Israel / palestine is just a micro example of what is now, and or is to be, the western entire world.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/27/2006 12:38 pm

An interesting titbit ... no comment applied

How Do I Say DEJA VOUS in Jappanese??

Anyone who remembers anything about World War II or has studied anything about World War II will understand and remember that during World War II, the Japanese developed a way to demoralize the American forces. The Japanese psychological warfare experts developed a message they felt would work.

They gave their psychological warfare script to their famous broadcaster "Tokyo Rose" and every day she would broadcast this same message packaged in different ways, hoping it would have a negative impact on American GI's morale.

What was that demoralizing message? It had three main points:


1. Your President is lying to you.
2. This war is illegal.
3. You cannot win the war


rm_upforsumfun2 56M
26 posts
6/27/2006 2:36 pm

Unfortunately I have to agree with what you're saying about the fate of the western world -I think that what we will face in coming years is a ever-widening low intensity war against a hostile Islamic world.

Their only commitment is to the propagation of the muslim faith and we have the precedents of a thousand years of conflict between muslims and the rest of the non-muslim world as a blueprint for the future.

Look at the current areas where there are ongoing conflicts involving muslim groups seeking to Islamicise otherwise non-muslim states.
There is the ongoing indo-pak dispute over Kashmir, the various insurgencies in former Soviet repulics in Central Asia, the whole Balkan situation which is still tense,and the efforts being made to undermine the secular Turkish state.There are also muslim groups active in the Horn of Africa and sub-Saharan Africa and this is all in addition to those Islamicists actively trying to forment trouble throughout Europe and North America.

What the West faces is quite simple- "JIHAD" A holy war to destroy the infidel (that's you and me by the way!)

Until people in the West become as motivated to protect themselves and their way of life the highly motivated subversives will have the advantage and continue with their activities


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/27/2006 4:40 pm

just this minute ..... attack is on into Gaza ... Israelis knocked out 3 bridges to isolate Gaza City from Gaza ..... troops are moving in ... "house by house"?

so damned sad, the legacy Yasser lives!!! Palestine is under several sub factions now, and no one is in charge to make peace with, or to stop individual terrorists.

I guess the game was actually over when Hamas got elected .... IF, there every really was hope at all. Too many do not want peace ...


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/27/2006 4:48 pm

"Until people in the West become as motivated to protect themselves and their way of life the highly motivated subversives will have the advantage and continue with their activities"


Exactly ... amazing few "Get That" ... .all will in time, unfortunately after many attacks & deaths & destruction.


"A holy war to destroy the infidel (that's you and me by the way!)"

lol, (while feeling sad) ... yes .... im fully aware that it is you and i and ...and ......EVERY single person who is NOT muslim.

meanwhile, as they plot our demise, ....New York Times argues why they could release secrets ..... as a society, we are so stupid!!!! ......


again Col Hunt is right "They Just Dont Get It"


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/27/2006 7:50 pm

upfor

I cant add anything to what you said in last post .... agree totally ....

"They" are IN the game ... ALL the way .. .24 / 7 ....us??? .. .we even allow nytimes to give up secrets .. .and to use their judgement as to what is secret ...... seems absurd ........

you know what? ... it is absurd!!!! Right now, with many interested only in getting at the current leaders .. .and to make their silly points (whatever they are?) .. and to win next election .... as a society, we havnt even go off the bench!!! .. .and i see nothing short of disaster getting us moving. ... or even addressing what the problem actually is.

and it's not like theyve snuck up on us ... they mouth their hate and aspirations loudly ...

we hear it ... but we dont "hear" it.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/27/2006 8:03 pm


wow upfor ... i just breezed down the comments .... thot your comment was my post , lol, .... coulda been ... word for word .... u expressed exactly what we feel so well and concise right on!!

when i read about europe in say 36, 37, 38 ...... that is exactly where we are right now ..... we know there are badies, but many here (wont apply easy and obvious labels) are just as much in denial as europe was then .....that it is real and will bite us ........HARD!!

Deja Vour, All over again, as my hero Yogi says.


rm_ventialtor
44 posts
6/29/2006 10:53 am

but don't forget, we beat the japanese. and we didn't beat them with the bomb, we beat them with blood and guts in the pacific, fighting hand to hand in intolerable conditions, and when push came to shove, we were just a little tougher than they were.

people think of the u.s and the english (and the canadians and australians) as 'peace-loving' nations, and that's how we like to think of ourselves. but the reality is that the U.S. and the brits like to fight and we are very, very good at it. So for all our talk of muslim extremism and the rest of it, i'm not really afraid. we are already facing intolerable conditions in iraq, and from all I understand, the U.S. troops are undaunted. they don't care about politics, they fight because they are americans and it is their duty and they will continue to fight until they are told to stop.

and no unfree country or religious demagogue can EVER raise an army that will stand against that kind of heart.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/30/2006 9:38 am

true vent ..... did for sure beat the japanese & germans in ww2 ... with hard dirty fighting, conditions terrible etc....... and would again. Our guys knew they were in a war and reacted correctly. .. .as did their govts. They also knew who the enemy was and where he was.

Your guys in iraq are dedicated and doing wonderfull .. .brave and dedicated!! Your guys and roughly equal # of ours in Afgan are doing wonderfull .. all are right up there with the the ww2 guys i suspect .. .certianly seems thay are ... and they are fighting an enemy who hides in the shadows ... behind skirts, literally..

my concerns are .... most people, especially a certain crowd dont know we are in a war .. even bush who is accused of overplaying it, does not really understand the determination, depth, and layers of the enemy ...i dont think even his admin realizes that the reason is that we are not muslim ..... it's not jealousy, or hatred or our ways or successes ... nor is it anything we have done .....it's purely that we are not of theirreligion!!! Period!

the enemy within .... the NYT thing really was a powerfull moment for me ..... it underscored that there are 3 effective enemies ... foreign terrorists, home grown ...and ..... a large part of "our own" society who, short of 1000s being killed (and we wake up and smell the coffee), will fight our govts, undermining their efforts. Remember, we will not be fighting a defined enemy .... no boundaries .. .no front lines ..... and ... no emperor or general to surrender even when we do many of them in ... they will never surrender ... it is a "concept" ... which becomes using hatred to drive itself. ....not a country.

I absolutely agree that there is the ability in the countries you mention ... that said, in such a vague and undefined war, im not so sure ... especially when so many "within" are actually thwarting efforts.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
6/30/2006 10:10 am

My problem with it all is that we are fighting at maybe (being generous) 10% throttle.....another big attack and we go to 30% for a month of so, then back to maybe 15% ...... damn, they are 100% , and 24/7 ... recruiting, growing daily ......

I accept that it will continue forever, and that there will be attacks forever ..... if we were 100% into it, we could survive as a society ... I can accept that as our reality .... but .. .we arent into it at all .. .collectively we dont "smell the coffee". ... all we worry abt is the semantics of not infringing on our own justice system tenants .. bickering, fighting within ourselves ... MISdirected .... "they" are directed ... clear direction .. with NO rules!!! .. .no internal dissent! .. no deterents affect them


In those wars, we prevailed because of that "character" PLUS 100% effort, + everyone on same team .... + 24/ 7.


rm_ventialtor
44 posts
7/1/2006 6:24 am

lil -- a lot of good points -- i'm gonna think about it and post more later. happy july 4 to all those of the U.S. persuasion!

vent.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/1/2006 7:44 am

Here is a goody ...NYTimes website .. june 30 / 06 ...a photo by Linda Spillers for The New York Times of Rumsfeld's summer home.... with caption "There is a lens in the birdhouse at the driveway of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's home at St. Michaels, Md." (i checked it and it is there) ..... address is a little difficult to put here i think
apparently same for Cheny home, i havnt located it yet. Article By PETER T. KILBORN - Published: June 30, 2006

ummmm. evactly why did i or anyone need to know all this?

this is a deepening of where they are going ....beyond printing words that can harm ..... beyond verbal attacks ....now descriptive and visual help .....of coures, the enemy is within


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/1/2006 8:11 am

Here is a goody ...website with clear pic & caption "There is a lens in the birdhouse at the driveway of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's home at St. Michaels, Md."

For sure an Islamic website , right?
... No, NYTimes website .. june 30 / 06 ...a photo by Linda Spillers for The New York Times of Rumsfeld's summer home.... with caption above - Article By PETER T. KILBORN - Published: June 30, 2006
(i checked it and it is there) .....

travel2 Dauht nytimes Daugh Kalm -2006 -06 -30 -travel -escapes -30michaels Dauht html ("-" = "/" , no spaces)

apparently same for Cheny home, i havnt located it yet.
ummmm. exactly why did i or anyone need to know all this?
this is a progressing excalation of where they are going ....beyond printing words that can harm ..... beyond verbal attacks ....now descriptive and visual HELP .....of course, the real enemy is within ..

what will be their next "need to know goody?" how far will they go?


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/1/2006 7:54 pm

happy 4th to you vent !!!!

we are doing our equivalent today, the 1st.


rm_ventialtor
44 posts
7/3/2006 6:38 am

lil,

happy canada day.

so maybe i'm being naive (is that spelled right?) but i don't think that the recent ny times story was that harmfull -- or even the pic of a camera at cheney's house -- i mean the terrorists have got to know already that the vp's house is going to be protected. and i didn't have a big problem with the times story on the swift transfers either -- it thought it was pretty fair. i mean, let's face it -- if they were getting a lot of good information from swift, there would have been a hell of a lot more arrests/police actions than there have been.

i think it does get tricky when you are fighting an undefined enemy in a democratic country -- where do you draw the line in terms of infringements of liberty? americans don't take well to infringement -- whether it is actual or perceived infringement.

in general, i think many in the U.S. general population (NOT soldiers) have become complacent and self-centered -- I'm not sure we're yet ready to sacrifice and make the changes that would be needed if this is going to be a long term 'war'.

but i'm also not sure i agree that we are as threatened as you beleive -- i mean, don't many muslims here want to live normal lives -- or am I just being naive again?

too much politics! I'm going to read more of your stories, because they give me a thrill and make my cock hard -- and that's a lot of fun.

vent.


TTigerAtty 63M

7/3/2006 11:02 am

Great posting, hon! I applaud your courage and tenacity. You're a sexy, intelligent young lady!

I follow what you're saying about the prison conversions to Islamic fundamentalism. People who are down and out too often look around for someone else or somthing else to blame. I'm afraid they will blame western culture and in our country, our American culture, lifestyle and form of government. I feel you make a valid albeit chilling observation.

The Liberal "Blame Ourselves" mentality will get us all killed, and we need to address political correctness head on. While we should not become paranoid and ascribe fanatical ideas and methods to all Muslims, as I do believe many have found a comfortable coexistance between western culture and their religion, neither should we become naive and let our guard down.

It would be extremely helpful if more moderate, westernized Muslims would come forward and publicly condemn terrorism and violence in the name of Islam. This would be extremely helpful at this juncture. I don't see that happening, and I am left to wonder. I want to believe the moderate Muslims in this country abhor the fanatical brand of Islam that is growing up, seemingly all around us. It's time for them to step forward! Are they afraid too? That's what happened when peace-loving Germans, stood by and allowed Nazism to grow in Germany. Good people have to speak out, and I'm proud and appreciative of your willingness to do so!

The Liberal solution, therefore, is don't punish any perpetrators for any crime by putting them in the terrorist breeding grounds called prison.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/3/2006 11:12 am

hi vent
it's not necessarily the specific releases that i find discouraging .. . it's 1. the attitude of nyt and many others that "they" can decide what matters ... and 2. with an attitude like that, what is next? & 3. that they likely will get away with it .... what im trying to say is that any one of those elements should not be, and all 3 does does not bode well, and we are not in the game.

Sure, "many" muslims are great folks ...... that doesnt change the fact that a growing daily "some" want to do harm ... and "more" are to varying degrees "sympathetic".

"too much politics! I'm going to read more of your stories, because they give me a thrill and make my cock hard -- and that's a lot of fun." ...lol, ...yes good plan.
lil


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/3/2006 7:21 pm

TT ...thank you for your kind words

1. yes, the prison conversions, far moreso in your US than here, more than make up for your 1/2 the percapita %age that we have.
Our "multicultural" approach is a failure (some surprise) .. you "melting pot" is an ethically and realistically more solid approach.

2. The "blame ourselves bit" ... .seems they all went to the same shrink ... and "bought into" (to use another of their type expressions) the "We Caused it" .....well it's really simple actually, We Are NOT Muslim ... that's it ... all the rest is BS .... excuses!! There is no more to the story ... THAT is what it's all about ... the infidel must go .. .and infidel includes muslims who dont accept their special brand of islam also!! (to fim up my point!

3. Initially, when we 1st started to study extreme islam, we felt that it was the muslims own responsibility to "clense their our house" and thot they would ... as time went on, we learned that many are sympathetic ... many!!! , any who fought them would die .. the monster grew ... it is too olate for them to stop it ... likely always was, as they kill their own who might stop them ..... even in our highly educated and very bright friend, we found " fudging" on the halocast, 9/11 etc ... "maybe westerners planned and helped them" ... "no one believing in islam could do such a thing on their own" ?? uhu! .. ya , right .... we found it very discouraging .... and this was a "moderate"? .... & a Shia


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/3/2006 7:28 pm

TT ...thank you for your kind words

1. yes, the prison conversions, far more-so in your US than here, more than make up for your 1/2 the per capita %age that we have.
Our "multicultural" approach is a failure (some surprise) .. you "melting pot" is an ethically and realistically more solid approach.

2. The "blame ourselves bit" ... .seems they all went to the same shrink ... and "bought into" (to use another of their type expressions) the "We Caused it" .....well it's really simple actually, We Are NOT Muslim ... that's it ... all the rest is BS .... excuses!! There is no more to the story ... THAT is what it's all about ... the infidel must go .. .and infidel includes muslims who dont accept their special brand of islam also!! (to firm up my point!) .. yet silly libs think "they / we " caused it ....... duh!!!

3. Initially, when we 1st started to study extreme islam, we felt that it was the muslims own responsibility to "cleanse their our house" and thought they would ... as time went on, we learned that many are sympathetic ... many!!! , any who fought them would die .. the monster grew ... it is too late for them to stop it ... likely always was, as they kill their own who might stop them ..... even in our highly educated and very bright friend, we found " fudging" on the Holocaust, 9/11 etc ... "maybe westerners planned and helped them" ... "no one believing in islam could do such a thing on their own" ?? uhu! .. ya , right .... we found it very discouraging .... and this was a "moderate"? .... & a Sh ia


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/3/2006 7:33 pm

TT ...thank you for your kind words

1. yes, the prison conversions, far more-so in your US than here, more than make up for your 1/2 the per capita %age that we have.
Our "multicultural" approach is a failure (some surprise) .. you "melting pot" is an ethically and realistically more solid approach. .. .but the prison conversion thingy will bite you

2. The "blame ourselves bit" ... .seems they all went to the same shrink ... and "bought into" (to use another of their type expressions) the "We Caused it" .....well it's really simple actually, We Are NOT Muslim ... that's it ... all the rest is BS .... excuses!! There is no more to the story ... THAT is what it's all about ... the infidel must go .. .and infidel includes muslims who dont accept their special brand of islam also (to firm up my point!)!! .. yet silly libs think "they / we " caused it ....... duh!!!

3. Initially, when we 1st started to study extreme islam, we felt that it was the muslims own responsibility to "cleanse their our house" and thought they would ... as time went on, we learned that many are sympathetic ... many!!! , any who fought them would die .. the monster grew ... it is too late for them to stop it ... likely always was, as they kill their own who might stop them ..... even in our highly educated and very bright friend, we found " fudging" on the Holocaust, 9/11 etc ... "maybe westerners planned and helped them" ... "no one believing in islam could do such a thing on their own" ?? uhu! .. ya , right .... we found it very discouraging .... and this was a "moderate"? .... & a Sh ia


TTigerAtty 63M

7/5/2006 11:12 am

I'm loving these two sections of your blog! Good discussion from lots of thoughtful people! These discussions help me to formulate and distill my own thinking. This is better than CBS and CNN news analysis!

The moderate, peace-loving Muslims need to step forward before the radical fundamentalist wackos hijack the entire great religion of Islam. How can Christians and Jews and other people of good faith help in this regard? I believe in the idea of creating a secular democracy in the Middle East, but can we succeed? Are there enough brave Muslim Iraqis, people of good intentions, who can see that this will be in their best long-term interest? These are the people the world needs to stand with!

The genie does seem to be out of the bottle at this point! We must be brave. We must not dispair. And we must not become so paranoid that we treat Muslims of good will harshly. But, we must enjoin them to "step up to the plate" and take a stand with other people of good will!

Let us pray that good people of the world, regardless of their religious faith, will prevail against the evil terrorists!


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/5/2006 6:41 pm

TT

it's the "JRNPCN&SN" .. Jessica Rabbit Non P C News & Sex Network ... beats CNN all to heck, eh" (we say "eh" a lot up here).

Yes, it is / was only the true muslims (moderates) who could do it. We can only "defence" it. Initially i thot they would clean their house ... however, the monster has grown ...... maybe they can, if they really want to, and if they are not afraid ..... hope so, but not counting on it ........read today 13% of Brit Muslims say "the subway guys are true martyrs" ... and many more wouldnt publically use the m word, but "sympathize" not a good sign.

I do still hope, ... but am becuming more & more sceptical, ..the more i learn.


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
7/7/2006 4:40 am

Hi Gang,

Getting the true Muslim moderates to step forward will never happen as long as their religious leaders keep pounding the drum that the “west” is trying to westernize Islam. Right now unfortunately that is exactly what the majority of them over there and here believe, that they are fighting a religious war. So, common sense is never going to become a factor in this war. Hell even slight differences in beliefs between the different Islamic secular groups has lead to continued fighting and even genocide since the very beginning of Islam. So they will never allow a predominately Christian culture (at least in their view) to come in and change what has been going on since the founding of Islam.

Religious groups regardless of which one you want to talk about have never allowed common sense to prevail when they feel threatened. Even the papacy which has alway professed the turning of the other cheek, sanctioned the crusades of the 11th and 13th centuries when they felt threatened by the Muslims of that era. So how can we believe that they, the Muslim leaders, are going to allow us, the Christians, to come into their lands and change the very beliefs they have held for centuries.

So forget common sense, its never going to be a factor in this war because to them this is a religious war and no religious group has ever used common sense when threatened.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


TTigerAtty 63M

7/7/2006 12:13 pm

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    TT

    it's the "JRNPCN&SN" .. Jessica Rabbit Non P C News & Sex Network ... beats CNN all to heck, eh" (we say "eh" a lot up here).

    Yes, it is / was only the true muslims (moderates) who could do it. We can only "defence" it. Initially i thot they would clean their house ... however, the monster has grown ...... maybe they can, if they really want to, and if they are not afraid ..... hope so, but not counting on it ........read today 13% of Brit Muslims say "the subway guys are true martyrs" ... and many more wouldnt publically use the m word, but "sympathize" not a good sign.

    I do still hope, ... but am becuming more & more sceptical, ..the more i learn.
I watched something on CNN about the Brit Muslims sympathizing with the "Al Qaeda cause" and "denouncing that evil Tony Blair" for investigating other plots since their 7/7 subway disaster a year ago and protecting the U.K., raising the specter of discrimination of course! It made me sick to see jounalists sticking microphones in front of these malcontents who have a great life in the U.K. but who have not yet and refuse to ever "melt-in" with all other Brits! The liberal, mush-for-brains journalists take their side, sympathizing with their plight. Lord, help us! These weak-thinking, liberals will get us all killed!

In order to deal with the ideology of fanatical Islamic fundamentalism, we will very likely first need to deal with the sympathetic ideology of liberalism. Now, this statement right here, will likely draw a lot of fire and condemnation, but I believe it to be as true as I believe the earth is round!

The "melting pot" concept is the only way a free, democratic country can tolerate immigration. People from various religions, cultures and traditions have to be willing to "melt into" the culture of their new home. We can celebrate and keep customs alive in America for the Irish, the Italians, the Germans, et al (and we should) and still know that they are Americans first. With Islam, I believe we need to be careful.

Citizenship has to involve swearing allegiance to the new home country and giving up allegiance to the old home country. It must also include forswearing allegiance or involvement in world ideological resistance movements which cross the borders of sovereign nations, especially when those movements employ terrorism in an attempt to attain their aims and objectives.

Hope all is well in your part of the world, LilSquirt!


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/7/2006 12:31 pm

"Getting the true Muslim moderates to step forward will never happen as long as their religious leaders keep pounding the drum"

While i feel the leaders taking "right" stands is the only possible hope for it to settle down any, I know that they will not!!!! ... in fact, few speak against hatred / mischief, most, to varying degrees speak in favor of hate / mischief / matyrs are good etc.

Common Sense ... so correct .... not a factor now, or ever.

Thank you jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/7/2006 1:36 pm


Today's Startling British Poll


17% of ALL Muslims consider suicide bombers last year and future as legitimate martyrs

26% of ALL Muslims consider suicide bombing against British military is justified.

37% of ALL Muslims consider suicide bombing OK by Curan if it is used against Jews.


like it only takes 1 person to do many in.

How much different is it here?

and that is Today ... and, tomorrow??


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/7/2006 8:52 pm




An interesting thought provoking post i found What an American is by wershi > Blog > [blog wershi]


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/9/2006 1:55 pm


Blame it On Bush !!!
(a Left Wingy Logic / Tactic Example)

A Fact Chronology

1998
Call to White House .."Hey!! BB (a Georgia euphemism for BillyBob), ..... "Jimmy here, i just partied with Kimbo (he told me his friends call him that) at one of his 100s' of homes last night ...... u know, he's really a good guy .... and, i think we libs have helped him to successfully overcome the problems from his harsh upbringing, .... not at all like what those Republicans make him out to be, ... he n me decided that if we just give him some aid and bucks & get off his case, he'll quit developing what he calls "those yuky nukes ". I could tell from his eyes that he's telling me the truth ... and he really has a nice smile."

BB: "Ok Jimbo (Arkansas euphemism for Jimmy), i'll send PM (Arkansas euphanism for Paddlin Madlin) immediately"

Note: Unlike our weak - willed TT, PM was one of the successfull conversions to liberalism

So, they sign a deal with Kimbo ... know that they never have to think about him again ....and go back to cursing Republicans in preparation for next election.

Result:
Meantime, our Jimbo returns to making peanuts and lovingly hating his president and country .... Paddlin Madlin hits the TV circuit to defend why she was part of merceless bombing of Belgrade citizens & Chinese Embassy to save muslims in Kosovo (all the time desperately trying to find the very 1st muslim person who will express some gratitude for that)..... and we all know what BillyBob was focusing on .

Meanwhile, unencumbered by BB, PM & Jimbo watching him, good ol Kimbo, still sporting that smile Jimbo affectionately refered to, works overtime and makes great progress, producing several viable nuke weapons, getting some really neat "taller" shoes and hair, completing more development on his long range missles ... and lots of other assorted good stuff ......


Thus, 2001
Silly Dubya (N. Korean euphanism for "fucking conservative bastard fucked up a good thing") actually thinks that Kimbo is making bad toys, calls off the "gravy train deal". WTF!

2002
Kimbo declares ...... "Hey!!, F U Dubya, I got several nukes operational" .. . and, smiling that "for Jimbo" smile, ... "thanks to BB, PM & Jimbo".

2006
"Hey!!, F U Dubya, thanks to BB, PM & Jimbo, I got several missles to fire"
BB's & PM's Good old Boy Kimbo fires off a buncha missiles including the more developed 3 stager. It pooped out, but so did the 1st 6 Vanguards as I recall.

Result: (and this is the really good part)
Now, PM (Paddlin Madlin) hits the TV circuit "We had him talking to us and smiling at ... i mean "with" us & under control, Bush killed our deal with him, it's Bush's fault" "We must go back to the deal that worked so well"


Ok libs,
apart from my smartassed "liberal" use of the language,
1. WHAT is not factual in the above?,
2. or in the obvious conclusion that you were suckered?
and 3. thus brought about the current situation of a nuke armed N. Korea flaunting their wares and thinking that they can sucker us again.??

And, no Liberal "Jimbo Kimbo Mumbo Jumbo" .. deal with it straight up, point by point!!


Whew!! .... I resisted the temptation to add "Billy's Bimbo" into that choice phrase


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/9/2006 3:44 pm


aha ... i opened a 3rd news type post ..... "N Korea Iran" ... they ARE the "official" countries most dangerous, along with the not to mention ".......ic extremism" for the next decade at least.


BlackHeatLust 48M

7/16/2006 10:03 am

Hi Jess...I am going to get off of your subject a bit for a station identification break We are not just about Big Tits, Long Legs and Wet Pussies

I love your Big Tits, I love even more you Long Sexy Legs and would not mind sinking my Black Dick into your Wet Pussy.

Just thought I would break the monotony a little bit and bring a smile to your face my love with all Bold print meanings from my heart.

BHL


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LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/16/2006 1:18 pm

aw, thank you Heat ... GOOD PLAN!!!!!! ...lol

contrary to your post and my extremely pointed reply to the korean thing , ......... going off topic as you did here is really totally encouraged, lol

in fact, it wasnt you i went of at ... it was the left in general's tactic of always going off topic to avoid dealing with EVERYTHING ... and thus dealing with nothing ..... and thus killing us all ....... that i was after.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/16/2006 8:46 pm

Terrorism Basics 101

I would love to do a post / discussion on the Middle East, Iran & Korea. However, it has become such a vast, immediate and diverse thing recently, that there is no way i can keep up with events or deal with it now. Thus, i will start a shorter topic on Sunni & Shia terrorism.

Current Update!! ...On Iran / Middle East I will only say that it is extremely apparent that Hezbollah has been give much more sophisticated missiles than before .... and that , unless Hezbollah suddenly decided to act independently, Iran called the current attacks on Israel. Longer range land to land ... and Silkworm land to ship.

I am trying to find time to put together a series of posts / comments differentiating the not so subtleties between Sunni (AlQaeda, Hamas, PLO, etc.) & Shia (Hezbollah etc.) terror operations..... how they started, ....what drives them (i mean what "really" drives them, not what your politicians & press & professors from both sides think drives them), .....what their organizations consist of, ....how their operations differ .... and the separate but special deadliness of each of them.

Class 101, a start.
Now, pls keep in mind that what they say for others to hear is mainly "excuses" ... not reasons", or what they "want us to think". Thus, their words are the last source I would ever use. Truth to all who are not one of them is scoffed at by both organizations, they use words only to suit their ends and any untruths are fair game toward their objectives

Sunni terror is mainly driven by the idea that "all non muslims" must die. ... oops, rather all non "fundamentalists" must die whether non muslim or muslims ... thus most muslims, Sunni or shia, or other, are a fair target also. Mainly they want to kill or render ineffective, any in their way to creating a fundamentalist world. It is based more on having a belief in " muslim fundamentalism", than on Sunni vs Shia. They are a bit "ad hock" in that they are not directed by any country, yet have proven able to do extremely complex acts.

Shia terror is founded, supplied, trained and ordered by Iran. It is totally different in it's objectives, and is based mainly on the Shia Armageddon Prophesies of the 6th century. (In short, to help Allah bring on Armageddon). To many scholars, they are the biggest danger of the two, as they are trying to end the world (and then become the "favored" souls), not merely shape it to their will as the Sunnis are. I am inclined to agree.

The Shia Armageddon Prophesies (a critical point if one is to understand a core difference) predict (or at least the main interpretation is) that there will 1st be the "real" holocaust destroying Israel.......2nd, the Sunnis will then acknowledge and follow the 2nd messiah to kill all, and i mean all, of the Shias. They will rule their world for 2 years with absolute control as all Shias and others will be dead.

3rd, Then, after exactly 2 years, the great day will come ..... Allah will then kill all of the Sunnis ... and all good Shias will be raised to heaven ..... the other guys finding a not so great habitat.

Those Shia believing this, live for one day only ... resurrection, ...but, of course it must follow the above sequence..... thus, the sooner it all starts, the better...... which means ..... war with Israel!!!
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and the main people running Iran are thought to believe in this.

Started by Iran in 82 when Israel moved into Lebanon to keep Israel in line. Trained Shia muslims in Iran by the Revolutionary Guard moved into Southern Lebanon. Fought guerrilla war with Israel, truck bombed the Americans, and i think Brits? in Beirut, Kobart Towers, Embassies ..... Despite centralized in Lebanon, Motto is "Death to America", ..hmmmmmm, wonder what their long-range objectives are? Duh

Where Hezbollah has been found: Sleeper cells in USA have been arrested, others got away, 8 caught last year entering from Mexico, actually killed some Al Qaeda in several muslim countries for doing 911 which then put the heat on them and disrupted their plans which went far beyond AlQieda ... have heard 2 terrorism "experts (ex military / CIA) call Al Qaeda the "B" Team ........ pay attention to to Hezbollah & Iran folks.

You see, the Shia and Sunnis are enemies since at least 400 AC, really splitting in different philosophies / directions during the 6th century when the still believed in prophesies came to be. At that time the Shia split amongst themslves, many embracing the Armageddon Prophesies. It is from this group that Hezbollah originated and always represents.

They are a direct tool of Iran, and unless we face up to this fact and deal with it descively, will become our most destructive terror threat, if they are not already so.

So sad, Today, little Israel is doing the fighting against Hezbollah / Iran for all of us PLUS for all of the Sunnis (who make up over 80% of Arab muslims)


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/17/2006 2:30 pm


SMELL THE COFFEE
This Israel vs. Hezbollah is NOT merely an isolated thing / incident.

Damn it ... 1. This is the 1st blood shot of the war Iran started of Iran vs. USA, ..... (it is the use of 2 surrogates Hezbollah & Israel) by Iran to progress with their war on USA)

AND ...... 2. It is a further shot of the war Islamic Extremism / Fundamentalism has started vs. ALL western civilizations.

SMELL THE COFFEE


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/17/2006 2:41 pm

SMELL THE COFFEE
This Israel vs. Hezbollah is NOT merely an isolated thing / incident.

Damn it ...
1. This is the 1st blood shot of the war Iran started of Iran vs. USA, ..... (it is the use of 2 surrogates Hezbollah & Israel) by Iran to progress with their war on USA)

AND ...... 2. It is a further shot of the war Islamic Extremism / Fundamentalism has started vs. ALL western civilizations + on all Non Fundamentalist Muslims.

SMELL THE COFFEE


BlackHeatLust 48M

7/18/2006 12:21 am

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    aw, thank you Heat ... GOOD PLAN!!!!!! ...lol

    contrary to your post and my extremely pointed reply to the korean thing , ......... going off topic as you did here is really totally encouraged, lol

    in fact, it wasnt you i went of at ... it was the left in general's tactic of always going off topic to avoid dealing with EVERYTHING ... and thus dealing with nothing ..... and thus killing us all ....... that i was after.
Not a problem Jess. You could never discourage me from anything you do nowadays. I didn't mean any harm if I did by my comments in the Korea post. I am just so fed up with how my President has handled or shall I say Mishandled some key issues in the United States government.


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LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/18/2006 12:53 pm


Heat ... of course you are well cum to express your thoughts ... im only asking folks to not post general statements, rather, make points based on specific facts ....."just the facts, maam".

Anyhow, you could get
away with anything with me... lol.


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
7/18/2006 3:59 pm

Hi Jess,

Your post “Terrorism Basics 101” points out just how foolish the point of view of most non-Muslims really is today. There is going to be a blood bath somewhere in the world before this can ever be resolved (if it ever can be). The only choice we have is do we allow that blood bath to occur here or not. So many still believe that if we just go over there an kill a few of them the remainder will back down. That is the furthest thing from the truth and is a really deadly point of view. Their beliefs run too deep to ever be changed by giving them exactly what their prophesies predict, the death of them all. Death holds no fear for them since the prophesies predict that they we raise again.

So what can we do to prevent the blood bath thats coming here? Unfortunately, there is no easy solution to this, and way too many here are too soft to ever allow us to do what needs to be done. So until a lot more blood is spilled here in this country, nothing of value is ever going to occur.

Just a few disjointed thoughts here but I will be back again later after I have more time to assemble my feelings on this situation.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/18/2006 6:32 pm

Thank you for your comment jackie
There is going to be a blood bath somewhere in the world before this can ever be resolved (if it ever can be). ... absolutely and i think maybe never done with.

Death holds no fear for them since the prophesies predict that they we raise again. ... .again jackie, absolutely they will never back off no matter how many we kill.

and way too many here are too soft to ever allow us to do what needs to be done. So until a lot more blood is spilled here in this country, nothing of value is ever going to occur
... yes, it will take many many deaths here before much of the population gets with the program.

A few titbits from the rag we use mainly

Johnathan Kay
"How do you practice deterence when your enemy values our death more than their own life??"A new reality is in the air ...

Douglas David
Hezbollah's attack last week represents the opening salvo in Iran's war against the west - and anyone else who stands in it's way.
D.D.
In the Middle East, its no longer Jews vs. Arabs. It's Iran vs. Everbody Else

hmmmm, sounds kinda familiar??


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/18/2006 6:54 pm

hi heat
am just so fed up with how my President has handled or shall I say Mishandled some key issues in the United States government.....

heat .. to a large degree id agree with that, by no means on all isuues, but sure on several .... however, by problem is not JUST with him ..... the previous regime was a the most do nothing regime since Carter and one of the most inert in history ...

He didnt get in trouble with the world, ... cause ....he didnt do anything!!!! .. . simple ...... just let Hezbollah, AlQaeda, Syria, Iran, Korea (as in my korea post) ,and a long list of other items, ... left Everything for the next guy. (Charaded with Baroque and Yasser ... like it was never going anywhere anyhow, but as in everything, he made himself "look like" a doer).

They both have let us all down i think, one doing zero, the other trying to undo the harm done before him and not always on track..

I dont consider attacks on poor Belgrade & Kosovo for real ..... just 'for looks" and proved zero.

& Bosnia? ... saving the muslims (who NEVER said thanks) so they could plot with Chechnyens and AlQuaed? ...which they have been doing for a decade or more ...

oh, and oath "the troops home in a year" ... they are not home YET, and that was when?, 93 or so? ... and yet his followers bitch that iraq is slow?? ..... that's just so hypocritical ... troops are STILL in Bosnia ... 13 years laternot right


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/18/2006 6:59 pm

well, i cant help it if that sleek black cock is so big and hard that there's little blood left for the thinkin part!!! ....
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Just teasin ya guy!!!!!, lmao


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
7/19/2006 3:38 am

Hi Jess,

Made the mistake of turning on the morning news today to find out whats happening in the world. Ha silly me now why would I think the media's spin on world news would be at all informative. They devoted all of about a minute on conflict between Israel and Hezbollah, which boiled down to nothing more then stating that Israel's planes and tanks are on the move after talks broke down. What bull, neither side is actually talking at this time, Israel is just reacting to Hezbollah's actions and Hezbollah is just continuing with their own (or at least Iran's) agenda.

After devoting that entire minute to the continuing war over there the news program here then devoted almost 5 minutes to explain how the Marrott Hotel chain is going to ban smoking in certain areas of all their hotels. Not trying to defend smoking, but what the hell, how is a smoking ban more important and worthy of so much air time compared to Israel's fight with Hezbollah. As usual the media is just feeding the public the same old drivel as always, and not really supplying anything of substance in matters that really count.

Also I have to disagree with the quote from Douglas David as Hezbollah's attack wasn't the opening salvo, that occurred many many years ago and this is just another attack in their war on all those who aren't in total agreement with them.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/19/2006 7:55 am

hi jackie

yes, for the lib media types, this is not impt item to their agendas. Not what they want to "feed" the piblic at all.

I hesitated on the nuance also ...... it in not the "first" shot at all as you say ... and it has been going on for a long time. I guess it could be said that it is the 1st shot that the public gets a look at so clearly .. . the 1st "obvious" shot depending on how u'd define obvious. For the lib aganda, it isnt even that .... only when they flood a subway and kill 1000s will it be for them ... or worse ... and maybe not even then if they get their way ....

i think for the libs who control media, it will only become real when they "personally" start to feal fear .... when they do .. all PC bets are off ... they will, as history shows, become the most vocal to do "whatever it takes" including torture, absolute profiling, etc etc ... whatever it takes.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/19/2006 11:08 am

just did some reading as it relates to our country.

Seems we have 500,000 in Lebanonese Canadians. U had no idea before, and still have no idea why. Read one article which said 1/4 we moslems which seems absurd as there is a finite number of non moslem Lebanese, and i dont see how we could have such a large amt ..... i suspect it to be far more than the 125,000 shia moslems stated.

Either way, how the hell did they all get here ..... & why here? ... why so many? ....cause "most" are from the south, and i suspect not far off 100% of the moslem ones are Shia and are Hezbollah & Iran supporters. (seems we are learning that almost, if not completely, all in the south support Hezbollah .... and for many, it's a lot more than "support"

Example: sadly, a family lost 7 members in S. Lebanon bombing ..... however, interesting that when one was notified, they knew where to find him and other family members .... at a pro Hezbollah rally in Montreal. .... not proof of anything, but an indication.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/19/2006 11:14 am

just did some reading as it relates to our country.

Seems we have 500,000 in Lebanonese Canadians. I had no idea before, and still have no idea why. Read one article which said 1/4 were moslems which seems absurd as there is a finite number of non moslem Lebanese, and i dont see how we could have such a large amt ..... i suspect it to be far more than the 125,000 shia moslems stated.

Either way, how the hell did they all get here ..... & why here? ... why so many? from tiny low population lebanon....cause "most" are from the south, and i suspect not far off 100% of the moslem ones are Shia and are Hezbollah & Iran supporters. (seems we are learning that almost, if not completely, all in the south support Hezbollah .... and for many, it's a LOT more than "support"

Example: sadly, a family lost 7 members in S. Lebanon bombing ..... however, interesting that when one was notified, they knew where to find him and other family members .... at a pro Hezbollah rally in Montreal. .... Yup!! ......not proof of anything, but another indication


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
7/19/2006 7:53 pm

I think that once they (the media libs) reach the point where fear overrides their desire for control they will be clamoring for the rest of us to stand up to protect them and their sorry ass interests. Of course by that time we won't have any choice but to stand up to protect ourselves which will serve the same purpose by protecting them also. They of course won't actually get involved except through their media outlets, at least until someone actually starts beating down their door.

I think we both know why there are so many Lebanese both in your country and mine (and others I'm sure). They've been plotting for many years now and have used every method they could to insure that they have their people stationed when they can do the most good for their cause. All they are waiting for is the call for action from Iran and all hells gonna break loose in both countries.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/19/2006 9:17 pm

Yup ... when the ycum to their door ...... then they'll know ... and react poorly .... as you say, lettin others do it for them.

Yes we both do know ....... hundreds of badys on ships for our continent now. ....... with cell phine @ the ready ...


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/21/2006 5:31 pm

I guess as so many, especially our good leftys, dont get it at all, they also couldnt get the subtlties of the sunni vs shia thingy that is showing itself now for us to see clealy.

As i defined both & the significances to us above, the shia as i see it is our major problem .... but if we are smart, and play it right, we can actually end up with sunni as allies, .... even up to their terrorists is possible (like AlQ is totally sunni). Shades of it happening already, the Arab League for one.

At the heart of it all, the Shias have started their march toward making Armageddon "happen" ... im not an armageddonist bi the way, but .... many of them are ... especially Hezbollah & the current leadership of iran.

Wouldnt it be ironic ... (maybe inevitable if we play it right) that the sunni countrys team up with the US & a few good countries (cause europe has it's head up its ...) ... who knows, AlQ on our side??? ... until they do the shia in that is. ... like we could "do a deal"


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/21/2006 9:16 pm


Notes from Zachary, a soldier in the Nachal Haredi Unit, Beit Shean Israel ...sent to his father

On Comment Page 2 >>> Some QUR'AN VERSES What it Really Says About Us Them


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/21/2006 9:17 pm



Notes from Zachary, a soldier in the Nachal Haredi Unit, Beit Shean Israel ...sent to his father

On Comment Page 2 >>> US & World News "Facts"


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
7/21/2006 10:04 pm

hi Jenn,

Wish there was away to get that letter printed out on the front page of every newspaper in the country so people could hear the true story. But we both know that the media isn't gonna let that letter get out to the general public. I hope you don't mind but I'm gonna reprint the letter on my blog so more people will see it. If you don't want it reprinted there let me know and I'll remove it.

Hugzz,
Jackie


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
7/22/2006 8:50 am

Hi Jess,

After reading a couple of posts made by several members on their blogs, I've written an entry on mine trying to point out several things to them, and to direct them to come here and read this discussion. I'm sure you won't mind that I've done this, as both of us feel this is something important that everyone should learn about.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/22/2006 10:03 am

jackie

1. in fact, thank you for making it more public ..... it is a very real message of what is Really happening that i wish all understood.

2. Oh sure, send anyone here .... likely at some time the "nuts" will start, but that is part of getting truths out ..... it is not politically correct to state truths in so many areas and we can handle those who prefer things to be different than they are.

Appreciated!!!!!


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/24/2006 3:09 pm

hi chatgal ..... thank you for stopping by.

Yes, i think most of us agree totally that NO war is the objective. However, idealistic words do not deter killers from killing children or adults.

"Nothing is worth the life of a child" That is true ... I AGREE!! ..... now, when a country, or a terrorist, sets out to kill our children .... exactly what do you propose doing to stop them from killing children, women & men?? ...I am sure open to any ideas ... but killing them 1st seems to me to be the only way i can think of to stop a killer from killing .. again, im sure open to a better plan, i just dont have one ...... are you aware that terrorists worldwide intend to kill?, ...including children.?.........Are you aware that the Shia have enacted their "Armageddon" plan to help Allah end the world? ..... and that hezbollah is ordered to kill every Isralei? ? Our "wishes" will not stop them .... thus what other alternatives do we have? ... i do know that for us or israel to say "Other solutions should be found to the problems. Not war." means nothing to these killers ..... they will kill every one of our children if we were to stand back and say "we wont fight you, we dont believe in fighting back".... are you suggesting that???

While war is terrible, May i go so far as to state that to stand back and spout idealistic words while knowingly allowing others to kill our children "because we care about life" would be the ultimate evil a person could do. ... .worse even than the terrorist / killer himself who does not care about life.

for the individual case of the moment, terrorists and counties openly vow, and follow the vow with actual action, to kill EVERY Israeli including EVERY Child .... ..then, to move on and kill every child in the world ...

please do suggest an alternative for israel "other than trying to prevent them from doing so". ...please suggest an alternative for us.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/24/2006 3:36 pm

hi chatgal ..... thank you for stopping by.

Yes, i think most of us agree totally that NO war is the objective. However, idealistic words do not deter killers from killing children or adults.

"Nothing is worth the life of a child" That is true ... I AGREE!! ..... now, when a country, or a terrorist, sets out to kill our children .... exactly what do you propose doing to stop them from killing children, women & men?? ...I am sure open to any ideas ... but killing them 1st seems to me to be the only way i can think of to stop a killer from killing .. again, im sure open to a better plan, i just dont have one ...... are you aware that terrorists worldwide intend to kill?, ...including children.?.........Are you aware that the Shia have enacted their "Armageddon" plan to help Allah end the world? ..... and that hezbollah is ordered to kill every Isralei? ? Our "wishes" will not stop them .... thus what other alternatives do we have? ... i do know that for us or israel to say "Other solutions should be found to the problems. Not war." means nothing to these killers ..... they will kill every one of our children if we were to stand back and say "we wont fight you, we dont believe in fighting back".... are you suggesting that???

While war is terrible, May i go so far as to state that to stand back and spout idealistic words while knowingly allowing others to kill our children "because we care about life" would be the ultimate evil a person could do. ... .worse even than the terrorist / killer himself who does not care about life.

for the individual case of the moment, terrorists and counties openly vow, and follow the vow with actual action, to kill EVERY Israeli including EVERY Child .... ..then, to move on and kill every child in the world ...

please do suggest an alternative for israel "other than trying to prevent them from doing so". ...please suggest an alternative for us.

We have lost, well via my mate's terrible experiences, that is, 2 children. One i got to know and love ...a lot. We know what loosing children is about ..... it is not just words, it is real. This makes us even more determined to stop terrorists and others from killing children everywhere .... if they leave us no alternative but to kill them to stop them .. .then so be it ... we will not shirk from our responsibility to keep more children from being killed. As i said, to NOT protect children, even if means killing their potential murderer, would be the "ultimate evil".

It has been my experience that military people who have killed and seen killing close up and personal, abhor killing, FAR more than idealists to whom it usually is merely a "hypothetical" thing ... .however, they know that to keep children / adults alive ... they must kill their would be murderers first.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/24/2006 6:01 pm

aha, after seeing comment on jackie's blog, i now understand ...... the sugary "no war" words dont come from a "good" place after all ..... they cum from the grossest of all places ......bigotry in the ugliest form of all .... antisemitism.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/24/2006 7:21 pm

Strange things afoot today?

1st

Good ole "Truce Only & Immediately" (so u can go back to fighting later) Kofi suddenly did a 180 today.

"Hezbollah must be completely disarmed as per UN resolution ...... strong force (either nato or UN) to give back the hijacked country to its owners etc) .... soon as feasible, not immediate".??????

2nd
U.N. Chief Jan Egeland spoke - Accuses Hezbollah of 'Cowardly Blending' Among Refugees
Monday, July 24, 2006 - Associated Press

The U.N. humanitarian chief accused Hezbollah on Monday of "cowardly blending" among Lebanese civilians and causing the deaths of hundreds during two weeks of cross-border violence with Israel.

"Consistently, from the Hezbollah heartland, my message was that Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending ... among women and children," he said. "I heard they were proud because they lost very few fighters and that it was the civilians bearing the brunt of this. I don't think anyone should be proud of having many more children and women dead than armed men."

something is afoot ...... could it be that Bush / Condi / Israel actually are getting their point across? ..that a real peace is needed ... not a Clinton style "sign here - fight tomorrow, after im gone please, i flew all the way here, now just make me look good" approach.?? arab allies, and others, is UN actually owning up to its responsibilities ... finally??

hmmmmmmmm .... .could a pendulum be swinging?


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/24/2006 7:54 pm

ok, here's Nasarallah's boss!!!!

Imad Mugniyah likely behind the capture of Israeli soldiers
By Bill Roggio


Imad Fayez Mugniyah

Hezbollah has conducted a highly successful raid into Israeli territory, attacking a Israeli Defense Force outpost along the Israel-Lebanese border, killing three soldiers and capturing two after they were wounded. Four Israeli soldiers were killed when their tank ran over a land mine in Lebanon during follow-up operations to free the captured soldiers. An additional soldier was killed when attempting to recover the bodies of the four tankers.

Hezbollah carefully planned and selected the personnel for this operation, and executed with precision. The attack began with an artillery barrage along the Israeli frontier. An IDF outpost, with well trained Israeli troops, was overrun, and Hezbollah had the time to take the two wounded Israeli soldiers hostage. The land mine used to destroy the tank during the Israeli follow-up raid into Lebanon was deliberately set to catch the IDF while pressing forward, and large enough to destroy a well armored main battle tank. The Israeli search and rescue combat team took heavy fire once they crossed the border. Hezbollah laid a trap for the IDF.

The sophistication of this attack indicates Imad Fayez Mugniyah, Hezbollah's chief of military operations was directly involved. Mugniyah has a long history of successful military and terrorist operations across the globe. Mugniyah has a history of conducting similar snatch and grab operations against the Israelis. He was responsible for capturing three Israeli soldiers in Lebanon, and the abduction of an Israeli colonel in Kuwait in 2000.

Mugniyah began his career in terrorism in the 1970s with Force 17, the personal bodyguard detachment for Yassar Arafat, and later joined Hezbollah. His more infamous terror attacks include the April 1983 bombing of the U.S. embassy in Beirut, killing 63; the October 1983 simultaneous truck bombings on the U.S. Marine and French paratrooper barracks in Beirut, killing 241 Marines and 58 French soldiers; the hijacking of TWA 847; the kidnappings and murders of U.S. military, intelligence and diplomatic personnel in Beirut; the bombing of the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires, Argentina in 1992, killing 29 people; the bombing of a Jewish cultural center in 1994, killing 86 people. He is suspected of direct involvement in the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, killing 19 U.S. servicemen.

Mugniyah has extensive links with the Iranian intelligence services, and has been directly linked to al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, and recently deceased al-Qaeda in Iraq commander Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Mugniyah is on FBI's list of 22 most wanted terrorists, with a $5 million dollar reward for information leading to his capture. U.S. Special Forces aborted a raid to capture Mugniyah in the Persian Gulf in 1996. He was believed to have visited Syria in January of 2006, attending a meeting with Iranian President Ahmadinejad and Syrian President Assad.

The Hezbollah raid and subsequent capture of two Israeli soldiers has placed Israel in a difficult situation. After Hamas' operation in Gaza, which also included the capture of an Israeli soldier, and the subsequent Israeli incursion into Gaza in attempt to free him, Israel now has fight on a second front. An Israeli reserve division is being mobilized to deploy to the Lebanese frontier. After today's attack, Israel conducted multiple strikes by air and sea, bombarding Hezbollah positions and bridges leading away from the attack site to prevent easy movement of the Hezbollah strike team. The IDF also struck at Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command positions just ten miles south of Beirut.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert referred to Hezbollah's strike was an "act of war" by Lebanon. "The Lebanese government, of which Hezbollah is a part, is trying to shake regional stability. We are already responding with great strength," said Olmert. The U.S. has directly implicated Iran and Syria (and by default, Mugniyah, their proxy). There are several motivations for Hezbollah's attack: Iran wishes to shift focus from their nuclear program to Israel; Syria Syria seeks an excuse to re-occupy Lebanon; Lebanon has been under pressure to disarm Hezbollah; Hezbollah wishes to gain prestige but striking at their hated enemy while providing assistance to Hamas; the destabilization of the nascent Lebanese democracy would be a blow to the U.S. democracy promotion program.

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LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/25/2006 2:23 pm

A Note To All Libs Who Would See Israel Annihilated

Fact or not?: simple point by simple point

Hezbollah is an arm of Iran?

Hezbollah literally hijacked 1/2 of a country?

They have 1000's of rockets for use on Israel?

They hide their weapons in homes full of children / women / men?

They have made it impossible to defend against them without killing civilians / children.

They loudly proclaim they are dedicated to the annihilation of Israel?

Iran loudly proclaims they are dedicated to the annihilation of Israel?

Iran / Hezbollah are Shia?

More impt, their leaders are into the 6th century shia armageddonist prophesies?

Those prophesies state that Armageddon starts with the, as they say, "real" holocaust of Israel?

That Shias will be resurrected after the sunnis kill them all and only they will go to their heaven?
(sunnis and us heathens don't make it there)

Armageddon is very attractive to those shia who believe this way?

Armageddon is so attractive, that it is being "helped" or "hurried along" by believers?

All they now need is a few nuclear weapons to start Armageddon process?

or, a Hezbollah strong enough to do it alone would work also.

They boast that they had secretly worked their little shia butts off to make nukes?

They are loudly proclaiming that they WILL have nukes?

They are loudly proclaiming that they WILL annihilate Israel?

They are loudly proclaiming that Israel's time is now?

Hezbollah is the front line, 1st strike force in the overall plan?

We are born with ability to observes & assess facts and then deduce logical conclusions from "obvious" facts .. .to not use that ability is to slight the human race.

But, to allow bigotry in the form of anti-Semitism to negate that process of simple "obvious" logic is an evil at least equal to those (above) dedicated to destruction.


Like, Smell the Coffee ... how obvious does it have to get?

Why does bigotry override simple basic obvious logic?


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/25/2006 2:26 pm

Those libs moaning at Israel wouldnt shed a single tear should all the millions of Israeli children die at the hands of Iran / Hezbollah ...

which, will happen if these anti-Semitic Libs get their way.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/25/2006 4:49 pm

Think ill do a new post ... after seeing some antsemetic posts around here.

Anti-Semitism - The Only Politically Correct Liberal Bigotry.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/25/2006 8:18 pm

Anti-Semitism - Politically Correct Liberal Bigotry.

Ok Libs, Let's Play 22 Questions!!

Fact or not?: Examin them, point by point. I am open to challenge on any of them
(I know you libs will think it's not fair, but facts only please, uninformed opinions are not facts.)

1. Hezbollah is an arm of Iran?

2. Hezbollah took advantage of UN total impotence (and anti-Semitism) to literally hijacked 1/2 of a country?

3. They have many 1000's of rockets for use on Israel?

4. They hide their weapons in homes full of children / women / men?

5. They have made it impossible to defend against them without killing civilians / children.

6. They loudly proclaim they are dedicated to the annihilation of Israel?

7. Iran loudly proclaims they are dedicated to the annihilation of Israel?

8. Iran / Hezbollah are Shia?

9. More importantly, their leaders are into the 6th century shia armageddonist prophesies?

10. Those prophesies state that Armageddon starts with the, as they say, "real" holocaust of Israel?

11. That Shias will be resurrected after the sunnis kill them all and only they will go to their heaven?
(sunnis and us heathens don't make it there)

12. Armageddon is very attractive to those shia who believe this way?

13. Armageddon is so attractive, that it is being "helped" or "hurried along" by believers?

14. All they now need is a few nuclear weapons to start Armageddon process?

15. or, a Hezbollah strong enough to do it alone would work also.

16. They boast that they had secretly worked their little shia butts off to make nukes?

17. They are loudly proclaiming that they WILL have nukes?

18. They are loudly proclaiming that they WILL annihilate Israel?

19. They are loudly proclaiming that Israel's time is now?

20. Hezbollah is the front line, 1st strike force in the overall plan?

21. Missiles in Hezbollah's arsenal continue to be larger, longer range & more powerfull.(as of this hour, nasarallah claims he will fire large ones)

22. Based on history, it must be assumed missiles will continue to become larger untill they are large enough to not only kill many Israelis, but to completely destroy Israel..

Point by point, they are pretty much correct, aren't they?...even though Libs dont want them to be.
And, if they are true, then anyone who would speak against Israels' trying to prevent their own destruction, "by definition", WANTS Israel destroyed.So, why do you all want total destruction of Israel to happen??

After reading many pathetic liberal proclamations against Israel (while they deliberately omitting Hezbollah' sins) lately, I now will allow myself to admit the horrible reality of the "why", and it is not a very pretty "why".

We are born with ability to observe & assess facts and then deduce logical conclusions from "obvious" facts .. .to NOT use that ability is to slight the human race.
But, to allow bigotry in the form of anti-Semitism to negate that thought process of simple "obvious" logic is an evil at least equal to those (see above) dedicated to destruction.

Like, Smell the Coffee ... HOW obvious does it have to get?
Why does bigotry override simple basic obvious logic? or, is it that to become a liberal one needs to be totally without any logic? .. interesting future discussion maybe

Seems anti-Semitism is the bigotry that IS Politically Correct for Liberals


Those libs moaning at Israel wont shed a single tear if / when all the millions of Israeli children die at the hands of Iran / Hezbollah ... I do not hesitate to label liberals' methods as Anti-Semitic - and they will ALL die if these anti-Semitic Libs get their way.

To even have a chance at survival, Israel and us must eradicate the uninvited Hezbollah from Lebanon.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/25/2006 9:25 pm

A Letter From A North Israeli
Hi!
Despite the crazy situation, I'm still alive. More luck than brains, probably. I'm right in the middle of the battles. The Lebanese border is about 10 miles from my house, and we are under almost constant missle attack these last two weeks. Tsfat is almost deserted, but I was gone for a few days and came back, since this is my home and there is a lot to do here, for the old people and the terrified Ethiopian immigrants and the other down-and -outs who can't flee. There is also a big hospital here in town (which has been hit twice), but is still taking in all the wounded civilians and soldiers from the fighting.

If ever there was a war we had no choice but to fight it is this one. I was such a gung-ho leftist all the years, saying we have to give the Arabs a chance for peace, pull out of Lebanaon and Gaza and let them prove they really do want peace with us. But since we did pull out, terror attacks have just gotten worse. The suicide bombings and the endless attacks on the border settlements were just the hints of the real entrenchment they were building. The abductions of the soldiers were just the trigger - they were trying to see if they could get away with coming right in and kidnapping anybody they want out of Israel. Can you imagine a border like that with Canada?

I hope we all live to tell about this. Ruthie and her daughter and grandchildren live in Haifa which is also under daily attack now. Two of my kids and their families live up here in the North, and two of Hannah's kids and their families live here in Tsfat. I guess we're all pretty stubborn - but as I said before, also pretty lucky, so far.

I can't imagine how all this will end - but as far as I know, this is the only place in the world where anybody is seeking out and actually battling the Hizbulla. It's a shame they are hiding out in the homes of and behind the backs of the Lebanese, but we did try to let them prove themselves responsible citizens of the world. and they blew it. If we don't manage to put them out of action for good this time, it is definitely the end of Israel as a safe haven for anybody, including the world's Jews

WIsh us luck!
Lots of love - Mimi


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
7/26/2006 3:57 am

hi Jess,

Don't have time this morning to really get in to this but can't believe this mornings top news story.

4 UN peace keepers killed in deliberate Israeli attack.

Did they actually say deliberate? omg yes they did. Guess I should have expected this from the lib media, putting their spin on things to generate more hatred towards Israel without first getting the facts.

And the second story is about how the UN is moving more peace keepers into Lebanon. Oboy, more shields for the Hezbollah to hide behind. Just what they needed huh.

Hugzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/26/2006 3:40 pm

jackie ..... Kofi's initial response also ......

More UN guys? ...shields.... yup, ...and, they can hide missiles under their beds like they do to the children in S. Lebanon

In Fact,ive recently discovered that libs think it's OK to place missiles under kids beds ........ it's just not OK to try to stop them??? ....fucked up logic or what?


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/26/2006 3:47 pm


NEWS FLASH!! - CONGRATS are in order

Building on their laurels for "Attack the Victim - Defend the Perpetrator" fucked-up logic,

Liberal-head blogs are now calling Israel "terrorists", while coddling Hizbollah,

earning them the 2 Most Prestigious of UN / Nobel Prizes

"Anti-Semitism" and "Pro-Islamic Extremism"


However, there have been a few good people in the world:
"We can forgive you for killing our sons.
But, we will never forgive you for making us kill yours" -

Golda Meir


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/26/2006 3:51 pm


NEWS FLASH!! - CONGRATS are in order

Building on their laurels for "Attack the Victim - Defend the Perpetrator" fucked-up logic,

Liberal-head blogs are now calling Israel "terrorists", while coddling Hizbollah,

earning them the 2 Most Prestigious of UN / Nobel Prizes

"Anti-Semitism" and "Pro-Islamic Extremism"


However, there have been a few good people in the world:
"We can forgive you for killing our sons.
But, we will never forgive you for making us kill yours" -

Golda Meir


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
7/28/2006 8:18 pm

I take heart from the words of Golda Meir speaking for all Israelis

"We can forgive you for killing our sons.
But, we will never forgive you for making us kill yours"

"We will never have peace, until they love their children more than they hate us"


(Libs, don't even try to understand. You are just not evolved into her / their gene level)


cougarprey4play 42M

8/4/2006 6:38 pm

It is rumored that Iran wants an WMD (nuke) to hit Jerusalem with...and while the world is focused on what Israel is doing - Iran doesn't have to worry about their reactors...

Love the post! Keep up the great work!!


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/4/2006 7:15 pm

coug ... hiya and thanks for comment.

yes, the ONLY reason iran wants nukes is to obliterate israel ... the only reason ...... thus starting the chain of events that iranian shia believe will bring theire messiah and "the end".

thanks again coug ............hmmmmm, "cougar prey" ........ thot of that makes my mouth water .... syliva building .... ready to take my prey ...... hehehhehehehe


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/4/2006 8:53 pm

In Iran, Arming for Armageddon

By Charles Krauthammer

Friday, December 16, 2005; Page A35 Washington Post

Lest you get carried away with today's good news from Iraq, consider what's happening next door in Iran. The wild pronouncements of the new Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, have gotten sporadic press ever since he called for Israel to be wiped off the map. He subsequently amended himself to say that Israel should simply be extirpated from the Middle East map and moved to some German or Austrian province. Perhaps near the site of an old extermination camp?

Except that there were no such camps, indeed no Holocaust at all, says Ahmadinejad. Nothing but "myth," a "legend" that was "fabricated . . . under the name 'Massacre of the Jews.' " This brought the usual reaction from European and American officials, who, with Churchillian rage and power, called these statements unacceptable. That something serious might accrue to Iran for this -- say, expulsion from the United Nations for violating its most basic principle by advocating the outright eradication of a member state -- is, of course, out of the question.



To be sure, Holocaust denial and calls for Israel's destruction are commonplace in the Middle East. They can be seen every day on Hezbollah TV, in Syrian media, in Egyptian editorials appearing in semiofficial newspapers. But none of these aspiring mass murderers are on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons that could do in one afternoon what it took Hitler six years to do: destroy an entire Jewish civilization and extinguish 6 million souls.

Everyone knows where Iran's nuclear weapons will be aimed. Everyone knows they will be put on Shahab rockets, which have been modified so that they can reach Israel. And everyone knows that if the button is ever pushed, it will be the end of Israel.

But it gets worse. The president of a country about to go nuclear is a confirmed believer in the coming apocalypse. Like Judaism and Christianity, Shiite Islam has its own version of the messianic return -- the reappearance of the Twelfth Imam. The more devout believers in Iran pray at the Jamkaran mosque, which houses a well from which, some believe, he will emerge.

When Ahmadinejad unexpectedly won the presidential elections, he immediately gave $17 million of government funds to the shrine. Last month Ahmadinejad said publicly that the main mission of the Islamic Revolution is to pave the way for the reappearance of the Twelfth Imam.

And as in some versions of fundamentalist Christianity, the second coming will be accompanied by the usual trials and tribulations, death and destruction. Iranian journalist Hossein Bastani reported Ahmadinejad saying in official meetings that the hidden imam will reappear in two years.

So a Holocaust-denying, virulently anti-Semitic, aspiring genocidist, on the verge of acquiring weapons of the apocalypse, believes that the end is not only near but nearer than the next American presidential election. (Pity the Democrats. They cannot catch a break.) This kind of man would have, to put it gently, less inhibition about starting Armageddon than a normal person. Indeed, with millennial bliss pending, he would have positive incentive to, as they say in Jewish eschatology, hasten the end.

To be sure, there are such madmen among the other monotheisms. The Temple Mount Faithful in Israel would like the al-Aqsa mosque on Jerusalem's Temple Mount destroyed to make way for the third Jewish Temple and the messianic era. The difference with Iran, however, is that there are all of about 50 of these nuts in Israel, and none of them is president.

The closest we've come to a messianically inclined leader in America was a secretary of the interior who 24 years ago, when asked about his stewardship of the environment, told Congress: "I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns; whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to leave the resources needed for future generations." But James Watt's domain was the forest, and his weapon of choice was the chainsaw. He was not in charge of nuclear weapons to be placed on missiles that are paraded through the streets with, literally, Israel's name on them. (They are adorned with banners reading "Israel must be wiped off the map.") It gets worse. After his U.N. speech in September, Ahmadinejad was caught on videotape telling a cleric that during the speech an aura, a halo, appeared around his head right on the podium of the General Assembly. "I felt the atmosphere suddenly change. And for those 27 or 28 minutes, the leaders of the world did not blink. . . . It seemed as if a hand was holding them there, and it opened their eyes to receive the message from the Islamic Republic."

Negotiations to deny this certifiable lunatic genocidal weapons have been going nowhere


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
8/5/2006 6:58 am

... Jess,

Not sure if your gonna like what I'm about to say, but I think that it needs to be said. So if you think that this is out of line just delete it as I don't want to lead others to think that this your opinion and not just my personal feelings on the subject.

Most religions have some form of Armageddon written about in their sacred book. But the main difference between them and the Shiite Islamic version is that they do not give or indicate any method whereby man can hasten its start. Shiite Islamics on the other hand believe that when they bring about the total destruction of Israel, their version of Armageddon will begin. So having been taught this from their early childhoods, they are of course going to do everything that they can to see that it starts as quickly as possible.

Side note:
Its amusing (although probably not the best term to use in this context) when you look back over the course of history just how my death and destruction has been carried out in the name of religion. Yet even though most of these religions profess love and understanding of others that they have and even today still cause more death and destruction then all of the world wars combined. Religious persecution has been and is the number one all time cause of hate, death and destruction in the world even today.

Now getting back to my main topic from above, when (and you'll note that I didn't say if) Iran obtains their nuclear weapons you can be sure that they will not hesitate to use them on Israel. Why would they when they have been taught through out their entire lives that the apocalypse is their only true path to enlightenment. And no amount of talk here, in the UN or anywhere else for that matter is going to change their point of view. So what do you think is going to happen when that day approaches? My personal outtake on this is that once Israeli intelligence confirms that Iran has nuclear weapon capability they will launch a preemptive strike out of self preservation. What other choice are they going to have!

So now lets hear it from all the libs out there about how wrong I am, that I'm a war monger or whatever. I've giving you plenty of ammunition here and all I ask is that you at least try to stick to facts in your rebuttal.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/5/2006 10:52 am

A post i highly recommend to all ... well thought out.....well written and very "real"..
[post 448506]


copy of my comment in it follows:

exceptionally good post here.....well said Dee

all deaths matter .... but the medias' amorally equating an illegal entity literally hijacking a helpless little country to "annihilate another" (their words, not mine) while deliberately targeting civilians plus deliberately hiding selves and weapons among their own civilians to a small country merely trying to save itself from annihilation

I'm not sure why, in the days and weeks closely following 9/11, my country, yours, the US, and so many others didn't place S Lebanon in exactly the same category as Afghanistan and eradicate the radicals there also at the same time ...... for exactly the same reasons. We are so shortsighted that we couldn't label exactly the same commodities as actually the same thing, fooled because they use different "for the public" names.

We went hard after the sunni radicals (a good move in its' own right), while conveniently closing our eyes to the shia, controlled by "islamic twelvers" (aka armageddonists) controlling iran who are far more dangerous than AlQuaeda ....as they are bent on their own destruction, as well as ours .... and are in a process of using us and israel to bring about their own "happy ending".

As i type here i see breaking news .. "US & France agree on UN resolution" ...... a little ashamed and sad, as i not feel hope from this ... i only feel even more pressure is on one little country trying to put things right for itself and for it's neighbor Lebanon also......cause no one else has helped them "put it right" ... and, especially not the anti-Semitic (and i do not hesitate to use this non pc term where it fits) UN.

again, exceptionally good post here.....well said Dee
J.

i will recommend it and place a link to this superb post on my blog heading and in my main terrorism post.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/5/2006 11:31 am

jackie, lol, delete you???? that would be to delete "basic truth" .... and even the delete button wont do that .... altho the media & the UN sure are trying hard

Now getting back to my main topic from above, when (and you'll note that I didn't say if) Iran obtains their nuclear weapons you can be sure that they will not hesitate to use them on Israel. Why would they when they have been taught through out their entire lives that the apocalypse is their only true path to enlightenment. And no amount of talk here, in the UN or anywhere else for that matter is going to change their point of view.

Absolutely they will use it to possibly intimidate initially, ... then to kill. ... and start the "glorious process leading them into shia heaven" ... that is, in more direct words, exactly what i have been saying above.... i agree totally jackie ... most have never studied the shia "twelvers" and what they are about ...... Hizbollah in Lebanon was iran's 1st move in that direction ... this recent attack, the 2nd move ...... nukes will be their final move ... if we allow it.

So what do you think is going to happen when that day approaches? My personal outtake on this is that once Israeli intelligence confirms that Iran has nuclear weapon capability they will launch a preemptive strike out of self preservation. What other choice are they going to have!

yes, israel is very aware of their "shia twelver" belief and intentions to do themselves in but use us and israel and us to do the job. I guess they are close to getting their way. Yes, israel will use nukes on them before they use them on iran ...... (i will follow with a comment on our iranian shia friend and his startling take on it all ... it was through his initiation that we studied this and came to the scary serious conclusions, ..so similar to your own)

So now lets hear it from all the libs out there about how wrong I am, that I'm a war monger or whatever. I've giving you plenty of ammunition here and all I ask is that you at least try to stick to facts in your rebuttal.


lol, but "just he facts maam, as Joe Friday always said) ... yes, for rebutals, pls use facts only .... opinions, general statements, hates, biases, "f*&^kn Bush", ... anti-Semitism, "it's oil", etc etc., ....say zero on the subject ... and so are not welcome.
jackie .. .check out the lib post above .. one of best ive seen ...... made me step back a bit ..... think a bit .... and relabel my "one covers all" lib comments, lol ...... to "some" libs, lol


cougarprey4play 42M

8/5/2006 2:12 pm

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    coug ... hiya and thanks for comment.

    yes, the ONLY reason iran wants nukes is to obliterate israel ... the only reason ...... thus starting the chain of events that iranian shia believe will bring theire messiah and "the end".

    thanks again coug ............hmmmmm, "cougar prey" ........ thot of that makes my mouth water .... syliva building .... ready to take my prey ...... hehehhehehehe
You're very much welcome & thanks for stopping by my blog!! Hope to get at least 1 more story up tomorrow for all to read & make them eager to return for more XD Older women are a delight! Off-hand, if there are any particular themes you would be interested in me writing about - just let me know...

Take care!


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
8/5/2006 4:45 pm

... Jess,

Went and took a look at Dee's post as you suggested, and I agree that it was mostly a very good take on the situation over there. I then took the time to read all of the comments that were made to her port and my take on it follows.

People.... way to many of you are trying to put a political spin on what is happening over there, but the situation is not political, its a religious fervor on one side and out right survival on the other. On the one hand you have the Iranian Shias who are pulling the strings of the Hizbollah to stir up things and distract the world from them and their plans for Armageddon with out any regard for the lives begin lost on either side of the conflict. And on the other side you have Israel who is trying desperately to prevent their complete and total destruction.

As for us, meaning the USA, Canada, UK, etc what do we do. Well we sit here in our comfortable homes many of which are air conditioned, relaxing in our arm chairs or on our couches drinking our ice cold beverage of choice, listening to our new program, or reading our newspaper and think we understand just what is going on over there. God does that make me laugh... Can we really be that gullible? Well by damn I guess we can if we are only gonna look at what gets written in the newspaper or broadcast on your local news program. They are only gonna report those things that are gonna get you to buy more papers or continue to watch their news. So what are they gonna report, well its gonna be those things that are gonna grab your attention, like “Israel kills 60 civilians” not “Iran building nuclear facility”.

You all remind me of the kids on the playground who condemn little Billy because he picks himself up off the ground and smacks the bully upside the head with his books. Oh wow Billy you over reacted and used way too much force. So little Billy gets condemned by everyone because he defended himself in the only way he could, it doesn't matter that the bully has been knocking Billy down two, three times a day for months. Nope little Billy is the bad guy because he applied too much force in trying to resolve his situation.

Jess, sorry hun but just got too damn pissed off at some of the comments on Dee's post and got carried away here. Just wish people would take the time to actually learn some of the facts before they open their mouths and say such stupid things.

Okay okay I'll stop.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
8/5/2006 4:52 pm

...Jess,

Sorry about the comment I left on your blog just now. Just got kinda pissed off at some of the stupid comments on Dee's blog and didn't take the time to cool off first. Please forgive me.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/5/2006 6:19 pm

jackie ... i understand .... article was pretty good ... but many sad comments .....it was that attitude of so many that got me to change my blog description to be relevant to what is happening rather than just comment grabbing but silly squirtin & mfm stuff.

the "other side" has zero equivalents to these weak whiny souls we have ..... "they" are ALL on same page, working together "as 1" ... .we are wrong, they are right. They also are aware of our weak whiny souls and know how to use them against us.

YOU WORRY ME I Wish You Didnt It is UP TO YOU to SHOW ME that YOU are WITH Us 1. you will find a comment of a website blaming 911 etc on "neocons", whatever they think they are, lol. ...and 2. another comment is a copy of website on the subway neocon conspiracy
i may not leave it up too long, as people might think im putting stuff i agree with...... an explanation is in the post itself as to where we came by this crap ... but some do believe it ... and our shia friend found it very a acceptable way to blame it on "the west" ... instead of on "the east" .... said "muslims cannot do this sort of thing on there own" ... it is the christian neocons( think abt that term, lol) ......i kid u not!!!!

i consider it dangerous stuff ..... even if all it does is keep a moderate muslim from trying to "fix" their own problem ..... and i find depressing, the mania to escape accepting ANY blame.[/COLOR
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LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/5/2006 6:30 pm

cougar prey .....hi ... my pussy pulses & syliva runs everytime i say the words "cougar prey", lol ...... i am rather "easy", it dont take much, lol

yup ... .it sure is a distraction ... however, the great UN did put a date on iran compliance during it all, to their credit ... but ..... what they will do when date arrives?????????????


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/5/2006 7:37 pm

jackie ... i totally missed the "please forgive me" ....... cause you did nothing wrong ....... however, .... hmmmm, not like me to pass up a chance for a sexual "forgiveness act", whether justified or not, lol, ... .hmmmmmm .... let me think ...... dressed in your miniskirt, u approach me ........ me in my long but slit to the top skirt ....... wench top .........hehehehheheheehhehehe


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/5/2006 8:21 pm

'Divine mission' driving Iran's new leader
By Anton La Guardia in UK Telegraph

(Filed: 14/01/2006)

As Iran rushes towards confrontation with the world over its nuclear programme, the question uppermost in the mind of western leaders is "What is moving its President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to such recklessness?"

Political analysts point to the fact that Iran feels strong because of high oil prices, while America has been weakened by the insurgency in Iraq.

But listen carefully to the utterances of Mr Ahmadinejad - recently described by President George W Bush as an "odd man" - and there is another dimension, a religious messianism that, some suspect, is giving the Iranian leader a dangerous sense of divine mission.

In November, the country was startled by a video showing Mr Ahmadinejad telling a cleric that he had felt the hand of God entrancing world leaders as he delivered a speech to the UN General Assembly last September.

When an aircraft crashed in Teheran last month, killing 108 people, Mr Ahmadinejad promised an investigation. But he also thanked the dead, saying: "What is important is that they have shown the way to martyrdom which we must follow."

The most remarkable aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's piety is his devotion to the Hidden Imam, the Messiah-like figure of Shia Islam, and the president's belief that his government must prepare the country for his return.

One of the first acts of Mr Ahmadinejad's government was to donate about £10 million to the Jamkaran mosque, a popular pilgrimage site where the pious come to drop messages to the Hidden Imam into a holy well.

All streams of Islam believe in a divine saviour, known as the Mahdi, who will appear at the End of Days. A common rumour - denied by the government but widely believed - is that Mr Ahmadinejad and his cabinet have signed a "contract" pledging themselves to work for the return of the Mahdi and sent it to Jamkaran.

Iran's dominant "Twelver" sect believes this will be Mohammed ibn Hasan, regarded as the 12th Imam, or righteous descendant of the Prophet Mohammad.

He is said to have gone into "occlusion" in the ninth century, at the age of five. His return will be preceded by cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed. After a cataclysmic confrontation with evil and darkness, the Mahdi will lead the world to an era of universal peace.

This is similar to the Christian vision of the Apocalypse. Indeed, the Hidden Imam is expected to return in the company of Jesus.

Mr Ahmadinejad appears to believe that these events are close at hand and that ordinary mortals can influence the divine timetable.

The prospect of such a man obtaining nuclear weapons is worrying. The unspoken question is this: is Mr Ahmadinejad now tempting a clash with the West because he feels safe in the belief of the imminent return of the Hidden Imam? Worse, might he be trying to provoke chaos in the hope of hastening his reappearance?

The 49-year-old Mr Ahmadinejad, a former top engineering student, member of the Revolutionary Guards and mayor of Teheran, overturned Iranian politics after unexpectedly winning last June's presidential elections.

The main rift is no longer between "reformists" and "hardliners", but between the clerical establishment and Mr Ahmadinejad's brand of revolutionary populism and superstition.

Its most remarkable manifestation came with Mr Ahmadinejad's international debut, his speech to the United Nations.

World leaders had expected a conciliatory proposal to defuse the nuclear crisis after Teheran had restarted another part of its nuclear programme in August.

Instead, they heard the president speak in apocalyptic terms of Iran struggling against an evil West that sought to promote "state terrorism", impose "the logic of the dark ages" and divide the world into "light and dark countries".

The speech ended with the messianic appeal to God to "hasten the emergence of your last repository, the Promised One, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace".

In a video distributed by an Iranian web site in November, Mr Ahmadinejad described how one of his Iranian colleagues had claimed to have seen a glow of light around the president as he began his speech to the UN.

"I felt it myself too," Mr Ahmadinejad recounts. "I felt that all of a sudden the atmosphere changed there. And for 27-28 minutes all the leaders did not blink…It's not an exaggeration, because I was looking.

"They were astonished, as if a hand held them there and made them sit. It had opened their eyes and ears for the message of the Islamic Republic."

Western officials said the real reason for any open-eyed stares from delegates was that "they couldn't believe what they were hearing from Ahmadinejad".

Their sneaking suspicion is that Iran's president actually relishes a clash with the West in the conviction that it would rekindle the spirit of the Islamic revolution and - who knows - speed up the arrival of the Hidden Imam.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/5/2006 8:21 pm

'Divine mission' driving Iran's new leader
By Anton La Guardia in UK Telegraph

(Filed: 14/01/2006)

As Iran rushes towards confrontation with the world over its nuclear programme, the question uppermost in the mind of western leaders is "What is moving its President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to such recklessness?"

Political analysts point to the fact that Iran feels strong because of high oil prices, while America has been weakened by the insurgency in Iraq.

But listen carefully to the utterances of Mr Ahmadinejad - recently described by President George W Bush as an "odd man" - and there is another dimension, a religious messianism that, some suspect, is giving the Iranian leader a dangerous sense of divine mission.

In November, the country was startled by a video showing Mr Ahmadinejad telling a cleric that he had felt the hand of God entrancing world leaders as he delivered a speech to the UN General Assembly last September.

When an aircraft crashed in Teheran last month, killing 108 people, Mr Ahmadinejad promised an investigation. But he also thanked the dead, saying: "What is important is that they have shown the way to martyrdom which we must follow."

The most remarkable aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's piety is his devotion to the Hidden Imam, the Messiah-like figure of Shia Islam, and the president's belief that his government must prepare the country for his return.

One of the first acts of Mr Ahmadinejad's government was to donate about £10 million to the Jamkaran mosque, a popular pilgrimage site where the pious come to drop messages to the Hidden Imam into a holy well.

All streams of Islam believe in a divine saviour, known as the Mahdi, who will appear at the End of Days. A common rumour - denied by the government but widely believed - is that Mr Ahmadinejad and his cabinet have signed a "contract" pledging themselves to work for the return of the Mahdi and sent it to Jamkaran.

Iran's dominant "Twelver" sect believes this will be Mohammed ibn Hasan, regarded as the 12th Imam, or righteous descendant of the Prophet Mohammad.

He is said to have gone into "occlusion" in the ninth century, at the age of five. His return will be preceded by cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed. After a cataclysmic confrontation with evil and darkness, the Mahdi will lead the world to an era of universal peace.

This is similar to the Christian vision of the Apocalypse. Indeed, the Hidden Imam is expected to return in the company of Jesus.

Mr Ahmadinejad appears to believe that these events are close at hand and that ordinary mortals can influence the divine timetable.

The prospect of such a man obtaining nuclear weapons is worrying. The unspoken question is this: is Mr Ahmadinejad now tempting a clash with the West because he feels safe in the belief of the imminent return of the Hidden Imam? Worse, might he be trying to provoke chaos in the hope of hastening his reappearance?

The 49-year-old Mr Ahmadinejad, a former top engineering student, member of the Revolutionary Guards and mayor of Teheran, overturned Iranian politics after unexpectedly winning last June's presidential elections.

The main rift is no longer between "reformists" and "hardliners", but between the clerical establishment and Mr Ahmadinejad's brand of revolutionary populism and superstition.

Its most remarkable manifestation came with Mr Ahmadinejad's international debut, his speech to the United Nations.

World leaders had expected a conciliatory proposal to defuse the nuclear crisis after Teheran had restarted another part of its nuclear programme in August.

Instead, they heard the president speak in apocalyptic terms of Iran struggling against an evil West that sought to promote "state terrorism", impose "the logic of the dark ages" and divide the world into "light and dark countries".

The speech ended with the messianic appeal to God to "hasten the emergence of your last repository, the Promised One, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace".

In a video distributed by an Iranian web site in November, Mr Ahmadinejad described how one of his Iranian colleagues had claimed to have seen a glow of light around the president as he began his speech to the UN.

"I felt it myself too," Mr Ahmadinejad recounts. "I felt that all of a sudden the atmosphere changed there. And for 27-28 minutes all the leaders did not blink…It's not an exaggeration, because I was looking.

"They were astonished, as if a hand held them there and made them sit. It had opened their eyes and ears for the message of the Islamic Republic."

Western officials said the real reason for any open-eyed stares from delegates was that "they couldn't believe what they were hearing from Ahmadinejad".

Their sneaking suspicion is that Iran's president actually relishes a clash with the West in the conviction that it would rekindle the spirit of the Islamic revolution and - who knows - speed up the arrival of the Hidden Imam.


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
8/6/2006 5:05 am

...Jess,

I've run into this “problem” before with some friends from overseas. Since they come from such a different culture with a very different upbringing they think that what we say/write as humor as what we actually believe in many instances. The first time was when I told one of them a “dumb blonde” joke, wooosh right over his head so to speak. He thought that this is what we here in the US actually believed, that all blonds were dumb, and that I (since I am a blonde) was actually putting myself down. It took me several weeks of very carefully phrased explanations to get him to understand that they were simply jokes and not beliefs on my part. The second time was even worse, as I told a lady friend from Germany a political joke and she thought that it was what we here in the US actually believed about our government. I never found any way to change her opinion either.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is that it doesn't surprise me that your shia friend actually believes many of the things written out on the web. And not just the jokes either, as harmful as some of them are, but the much more harmful political things that some of the people here have written about. Hell if some of us actually believe them then how can we expect those from other cultures not to believe them also.

My sister-in-law was born and raised in Germany and has only been here in the US for a little over 2 years now and we have had many interesting conversations on this subject. Many of the things we have talked about are so far out in left field that they would be funny if it wasn't for the fact that she and many others over there actually believe them. One thing that she asked me about a year ago made me think long and hard about some of the things I had posted myself. Her question was “why do we post these things if we really don't believe them ourselves?”. Believe me that more than anything else got me to really thinking about some of the things that we post, and I've tried since then to be very careful with the things that I post were the world can see them. How many of us here, yes even here on this site, ever stop to consider just how the things we write are going to be viewed by people from different cultures?

Well guess I've rambled on more then enough for now.

Okay now thinking about Jessica approaching wearing that long slit skirt and wench top hmmmmmm -giggles-

Hugzzz,
Jackie


cougarprey4play 42M

8/6/2006 6:42 am

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    cougar prey .....hi ... my pussy pulses & syliva runs everytime i say the words "cougar prey", lol ...... i am rather "easy", it dont take much, lol

    yup ... .it sure is a distraction ... however, the great UN did put a date on iran compliance during it all, to their credit ... but ..... what they will do when date arrives?????????????
Hehehe...mmmmm, that's good to know as some find the term "cougar" deragatory but thankfully there are those that do like it & will use it openly. I've actually considered starting up a small line of products for the "lifestyle" (cougars, cougar prey, cougar hunters & so on).

...but not too easy, right?

Pffft - I wouldn't hold my breath with the UN - between the scandals and their lack of quality, they don't do much good unfortunately. How many resolutions against Israel, which are sponsored by those that hate them? What happend to the inquiry of the abuse of children by UN officials in other countries? What's the point of "lightly critizing" a country with a resolution (well we had to take out the rough/harsh language as countries X, Y & Z wouldn't support it - meaning it has no teeth) - when most countries (ie N. Korea) will baulk at it anyways...


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/6/2006 12:53 pm

allow ... hi ... great to see you here.

yup, the moderates did nothing way back ....... now it's too late ... they "let the monster grow" ..... now it's too big to stop.

and i also wonder what will happen in US , here in canada etc ..... there are so many sympathizers who are more than just sympathizers


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/6/2006 12:58 pm

jackie

right ... it seems N. Am might be the only place where one can make fun of themselves, or others in genuine play ... sometimes the poking fun lightly deals with real problems, acknowledges them as problems and in a friendly way allows problems to be dealt with ..... i do think us in the "colonies" have eveolved FAR beyond our roots & the rest of the world ... i expect to hear from a few brits on that, lol.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/6/2006 1:10 pm

coug .. i find the term cougar complimentary ..... while im not overly aggressive, i do enjoy alll forms of sex and roles ... from giving and submissive to "taking", even devouring a man, lol ..... switching back and forth between those extremes ... but the cougar image is a fun one along with the other roles.

Yup, the UN has been worse than useless .... i see it as our enemy at times in fact .. words only .....

FACT: the UN caused current situation ... israel left based on UN promise to keep S Lebanon clear of Hizbollah .... and Lebanese govt on border ... all it actually did was sit in silly looking stilted towers and hope Hizbollah creamed israel.

As i see it, Israel must do it on their own ..... until it reaches point where US etc come in and deal with Iran ... this is Iran, not Leb, not Hiz, not even Syria ... IRAN!!!!!!! iran in process of committing beliberate suicide!!! THAT is what is happening here ..... via surogates


cougarprey4play 42M

8/6/2006 2:33 pm

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    coug .. i find the term cougar complimentary ..... while im not overly aggressive, i do enjoy alll forms of sex and roles ... from giving and submissive to "taking", even devouring a man, lol ..... switching back and forth between those extremes ... but the cougar image is a fun one along with the other roles.

    Yup, the UN has been worse than useless .... i see it as our enemy at times in fact .. words only .....

    FACT: the UN caused current situation ... israel left based on UN promise to keep S Lebanon clear of Hizbollah .... and Lebanese govt on border ... all it actually did was sit in silly looking stilted towers and hope Hizbollah creamed israel.

    As i see it, Israel must do it on their own ..... until it reaches point where US etc come in and deal with Iran ... this is Iran, not Leb, not Hiz, not even Syria ... IRAN!!!!!!! iran in process of committing beliberate suicide!!! THAT is what is happening here ..... via surogates
It's nice to be, well "flexible" I have my nature but I'm always willing to accomidate different tastes & needs based on the individual!

I do like that..."devouring a man".

I see Syria as a semi-puppet of Iran, though Iran is who controls most of the strings overall. If by chance one of those serious earthquakes hits Iran & causes some problems with their reactors - we of course will be blamed for causing it & what not. Even though, due to our giving nature, we would be willing to send humanitarian goods (medicine, clothing, beds, tents, food, water, etc.) to them. Israel is the same way - they have always offered to help any country with their disasters but it's sad how certain ones refuse it beause of their beliefs. Most of the world would still be back in the 70's if it wasn't for the technologies that have come out of Israel (cell phones being one of the major things they have given us). Then again, when you look at countries that want to surpress the rights of women, minorities & others - it's not surprising to see them want to wipe out countries that give so freely. What's sad is those who hate this country, instead of leaving for neighboring states (not offense to Canada but people brag about their healthcare system & how good it is up there - then move, I'm fine right here) or another country that will take them. No instead they seek to destory what we are & turn us inside out. They are slowly poisoning the children with their ideas (ask anyone under 18 even down to 12 what they think of the war/president/etc. & for some reaso they do have an opinion - granted it was given to them often by the teachers).


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/6/2006 5:01 pm

so u liked the being devoured, lol

Syria is a FULL puppet i think ... not sure if it's money or fear or both driving it. BUT, they are Sunni ..... so could be taken away from iran i bet ...... We think GB, if he was clued in (which he definitely is not on Syria) should sit Assad down, have a beer, and say "hey, ass, ... oops, i meant to say assad old bud, what do you want from me to kiss Iran goodbye?? .. cause i'm here to give it to you X2 and to become buddies even, .. well almost, lol)

.. .actually i'm dead serious on this point ... problem solved so easy ... if GB could only get over the fact that democracies dont work in muslim culture ... (we have gotten over that naive and erroneous perception) and even if they did, it shouldnt be a requirement to "stop war and protect our best friend" in the world ... israel. ... in fact, as long we make that a requirement, we will miss opportunities that we must exploit. (sheesh, they dont work all that great over here either, my opinion .. .and just wait and see how fucked up ours get to be the almost immediate future)

Actually, i love both your and our countries equally .... but our healthcare system in broke now ... yours sucks too in different way ... ours works for ALL , but not well at present ..... yours doesnt work for so many ..... thus both dont work as the 2 main requirements (speed & everyone included) are not both met by either system. Neither of us has one to brag about... only can be ashamed. Cuba meets both requirements ... hmmmmmmmmm ... back to the democracy working thingy?? lol.


cougarprey4play 42M

8/7/2006 5:26 am

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    so u liked the being devoured, lol

    Syria is a FULL puppet i think ... not sure if it's money or fear or both driving it. BUT, they are Sunni ..... so could be taken away from iran i bet ...... We think GB, if he was clued in (which he definitely is not on Syria) should sit Assad down, have a beer, and say "hey, ass, ... oops, i meant to say assad old bud, what do you want from me to kiss Iran goodbye?? .. cause i'm here to give it to you X2 and to become buddies even, .. well almost, lol)

    .. .actually i'm dead serious on this point ... problem solved so easy ... if GB could only get over the fact that democracies dont work in muslim culture ... (we have gotten over that naive and erroneous perception) and even if they did, it shouldnt be a requirement to "stop war and protect our best friend" in the world ... israel. ... in fact, as long we make that a requirement, we will miss opportunities that we must exploit. (sheesh, they dont work all that great over here either, my opinion .. .and just wait and see how fucked up ours get to be the almost immediate future)

    Actually, i love both your and our countries equally .... but our healthcare system in broke now ... yours sucks too in different way ... ours works for ALL , but not well at present ..... yours doesnt work for so many ..... thus both dont work as the 2 main requirements (speed & everyone included) are not both met by either system. Neither of us has one to brag about... only can be ashamed. Cuba meets both requirements ... hmmmmmmmmm ... back to the democracy working thingy?? lol.
Devoured is good

Well I think it's our governments & the waste factor. They need to call one of those "debt relief programs" & learn how to use money wisely instead of just spending because they supposibly can. I've only been out of the US twice & both times were to Canada. For the most part people were friendly (no problem getting in, try getting back into the US after 9/11 - talk about nazi border guards, I was put through hell) & there are some nice features up there but like down here I'm hearing problems (mainly trying to make a living). Do have a think for Canadians - if only more would treat me nicely (one of the last ones went psycho on me but then again she was younger...mature ones tend to be a lot nicer).


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/7/2006 8:21 am

there is a niche here of very anti US types ..... so anti defending ourselves with zero grasp of what terrorism is (like the 30s euros were in face of growing nazyism) .....ignorance is bliss types.... you have almost as high a %age in your country ..... the extreme left ...... overall, most canadians consider the US their best friend ....

not sure why u had trouble at border going back ..... they treat us great ... ask valid questions is all.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/7/2006 11:25 am

OK gang, YOU can help fight terrorism!!!!!

from sexymamma662003 [post 458824]


We all know that it is a sin for an Islamic male to see any woman other
than his wife naked, and that he must commit suicide if he does.
So next Sunday at 4:00 PM Eastern time, all American women are
asked to walk out of their house completely naked to help weed out any
neighborhood terrorists. Circling your block for one
hour is recommended for this antiterrorist effort. All men are to
position themselves in lawn chairs in front of their house to prove they
are not terrorists, and to demonstrate that they think it's okay to see
nude women other than their wife and to show support for all American
women.
And since the Koran also does not approve of alcohol, a cold six-pack at
your side is further proof of your antiterrorist sentiment. The American
Government appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds
your participation in this anti-terrorist activity. God bless America
and GOD BLESS AMERICAN WOMEN!

.....and i will add, canadian women


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/7/2006 11:29 am

and guys, maybe you can help too ...... as same sex sex requires suicide, you guys can do likewise ..... any of them with BI tendancies who gets a "rise" out of you would have to do themselves in also ... this getting those who might have otherwise escaped


cougarprey4play 42M

8/7/2006 7:39 pm

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    there is a niche here of very anti US types ..... so anti defending ourselves with zero grasp of what terrorism is (like the 30s euros were in face of growing nazyism) .....ignorance is bliss types.... you have almost as high a %age in your country ..... the extreme left ...... overall, most canadians consider the US their best friend ....

    not sure why u had trouble at border going back ..... they treat us great ... ask valid questions is all.
Is sad how any country have such people but it happens. That's good to hear because how the media portrays is (CBC, ours, etc.) - Canada doesn't care for but now & then I do hear some that do like Americans. What is interesting is most of the "talk/contact" on here has been from Canada & elsewhere XD which is all good for me - I love accents & people from other places (not that I don't like Americans, I just have a thing for accents).

Bad area I crossed into up in Montana, down from BC. Getting into Alberta was fine (from Montana) as the lady asked a few questions & let us through. Coming back, the US agents were vile. I was warned in the nearby town that those US agents (coming down from BC just outside of Glacier) are really bad & they love to use their power over people.

I enjoy talking with you - seriously never expected to find someone so laid back & easy to get along with (previous use of the site has sometimes left a bitter taste in my mouth).


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/7/2006 8:32 pm

aw, im sorry to hear that all conversations wernt good ...... you sure are well cum here , ANYTIME!!!

ya, there's lots o good canuck up here ..... i get down on it sometimes as we are not the country we used to be ..... maybe similar over border also ...but lots o good ones left.

so sad, it takes war to bring people together ... to assess their values .... appreciate what they have .... good times bring out the worse, so sad. Well, we are at war, but only us sharpies know it .... lol


cougarprey4play 42M

8/8/2006 5:19 am

That's why I enjoy talking with mature females - I do get along a lot better & often have a lot in common as well. At times I feel out of place for my age but it doesn't bother me. It's too bad I can't get along as easily with those around my age or younger but I just keep seeking out women older than me instead XD

I've heard prices haven't been too good to people up there lately - just like some things down here. That's unfortunate but I think we all figure out a way to get by.

Yes it is but at least we tend to able to relate & figure who we can get along with or at least know who is on our side. Sometimes complete strangers are closer than family - which happens in my case a lot. Hehehe... I just need to start building up a network on here


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/8/2006 3:51 pm

thx coug

Well, seems France has done another "France" .... now supporting continuation of the before.

It is only your USA that we can / must count on .. i do hope they hang tough and not pressure Israel to allow a lesser ending than Hizbollah demilitarized.

Iran is winning at moment ... and France is once again the "enemy" along with the UN


rm_ventialtor
44 posts
8/8/2006 6:00 pm

Lil,

I have a middle east question for your well-informed readers . . .

what terrorist group exploded a bomb in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 95 people, mostly civilians.


cougarprey4play 42M

8/8/2006 6:57 pm

*Tips his hat to you...*

Gah! Some governments will never learn - I'm surprised (no offense to French people, I've known some & they are fine - it's the government) they have tried to get Israel to surrender.

I'm glad the US hasn't been pushing Israel to stop because that has happend in the past (pretending like Israel is a bully when they are not). We can only hope that Israel continues to hold strong & get things taken care of!


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/8/2006 7:08 pm

aw jeeeez vent .... u have me on that one ....

id just be guessing, and not gonna do that ........

oh cumon, who was it?
-----------------------

coug ... i just hope the US hangs tough on this one .... if compromise, then it will just continue to flare up again .... Hizbollah gotta be done in as best possible.
For me , France ALWAYS was an enemy


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
8/9/2006 2:54 am

Vent,

If your referring to the 1946 bombing of the King David Hotel, it was carried out by Irgun a Zionist militant organization as ordered by Menachem Begin.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


cougarprey4play 42M

8/9/2006 5:17 am

    Quoting rm_ventialtor:
    Lil,

    I have a middle east question for your well-informed readers . . .

    what terrorist group exploded a bomb in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 95 people, mostly civilians.
So are you justifying all the other attacks by muslims on Jews as legit?

What about the pogroms carried out in the neighboring countries? What about the threat of "pushing the Zionists into the sea"? Who sided with the nazis in the middle east during WWII & what were their plans with what to do with the Jews living in the area?


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/9/2006 7:20 am

coug .. no, is suggesting not ANY muslim attacks are legit ...he's just askin a specific question .. the name of the org that bombed the hotel.

you have me on that question also ... id be guessing ..... i am more familiar with euro & n. am actions in ww2


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/9/2006 7:26 am

today we are at the expected ... france went wimpy ... again ... israel is on its own now as UN backing terror, which they always have.

it is showdown time for bush now .. .this is 100x more impt than iraq even .... what will he do now that world in moving away from his / israel stance ...... what will he do? .... it is the moment, right now ... fight back all the way? or settle for mush in between?


cougarprey4play 42M

8/9/2006 4:58 pm

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    coug .. no, is suggesting not ANY muslim attacks are legit ...he's just askin a specific question .. the name of the org that bombed the hotel.

    you have me on that question also ... id be guessing ..... i am more familiar with euro & n. am actions in ww2
Ah, my fault - I apologized for being so rude...


cougarprey4play 42M

8/9/2006 5:07 pm

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    coug .. no, is suggesting not ANY muslim attacks are legit ...he's just askin a specific question .. the name of the org that bombed the hotel.

    you have me on that question also ... id be guessing ..... i am more familiar with euro & n. am actions in ww2
Ah, my fault for misunderstanding... *Sweat*


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/9/2006 6:18 pm

its ok, u wont be spanked. ...

.well, unless u want to be ..... hmmmm,... ok sonny, side down your pants .......

no no, the underwear also .... bare assed spanking .....hehehehheheheheheh


rm_ventialtor
44 posts
8/9/2006 7:57 pm

back to the King David -- jackie got it right.

cougar -- not sure I understand your questions.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/9/2006 8:31 pm

WELL DONE Jackie .......... and blushes from me


cougarprey4play 42M

8/9/2006 8:43 pm

    Quoting LilSquirt_4mfm:
    its ok, u wont be spanked. ...

    .well, unless u want to be ..... hmmmm,... ok sonny, side down your pants .......

    no no, the underwear also .... bare assed spanking .....hehehehheheheheheh
Oh my, aren't a fiery mature Canadian lady!

I might have to come up there & bring you back to the US!


cougarprey4play 42M

8/9/2006 8:44 pm

    Quoting rm_ventialtor:
    back to the King David -- jackie got it right.

    cougar -- not sure I understand your questions.
Don't worry about it, I misunderstood your question. Sorry about the mixup!


warmandsexy52 66M
13164 posts
8/10/2006 4:26 pm

I have a good friend who is a devout muslim. One of his two degrees is in Sharia Law. We have spoken often. Much as he is on a personal level a kind-hearted, law abiding, peace-loving man, I have no illusions about the fact that his world view is totally different from mine. He is a good and caring husband (as far as I can tell), but his wife is clothed in black and veiled. He will not shake a woman's hand, because his faith implies this is a sexual gesture.

However, not all muslims are like my friend, who despite his devoutness is moderate in his actions and considers people's humanity. Many muslims believe that they have an absolute right to higher virtue and the morality of the West is reprehensible. We are worse than sinners, because Allah does not forgive. There is no redemption, as there is in Christianity. We in the secular West are the damned. The less than human. Hitler and the Nazis had a similar term ....... the untermenschen.

It is therefore only a small step from deeming people to be subhuman to be able to destroy them with impunity and without conscience and humanity. The gates of Auschwitz testify to this, but equally the collapsing twin towers do too. Combine with this the "evangelical" nature of islam and jihad (which means "struggle") as the spreading of the word by either peaceful or warlike means and you have a deadly concoction. There is a muslim sect in the UK that is seeking to make Britain an islamic republic and have distributed pamphlets to that effect.

Now coming to Hizbollah, who are just a political party within a democratic Lebanon, and not the party in power. They have been sending rockets into Israel long before the current crisis. They are actively supported, equipped and financed by Iran, in the same way the Reagan government supported the Contras. Their aim is the total destruction of Israel. They saw what the consequences were when Hamas kidnapped an Israeli soldier in Gaza and knew Israel would react heavily as they did. It seems that Israel's heavy handed retaliation can be used against them on a PR front - to make Israel look bad in front of the rest of the world. So they provoke Israel, knowing what the consequences are for the Lebanese people and then claim that they are the champions of the Lebanese cause. It's devious and manipulative, but within a certain interpretation it is jihad because it seeks to expand islam by diminishing judaism.

And Israel knows the score. These islamic fundamentalists have only one aim ....... to drive every jew into the sea. And it is an aim they still repeat regularly.

And the islamic majority are caught in a double bind. To accept the monstrous behaviour of the extremists says they collude. To openly reject such actions is being presented as reacting against the furtherance of the cause and the "moral virtues" islam espouses, and even to "side with the enemy." So they sit on the fence and say nothing, allowing politicised clerics to fill the vacuum.

And as for Israel - well the Jews went like lambs to the slaughter still in living memory, They are not naive. It could happen again, but they're damn well not going to let it be so, and rightfully too.

Well that's my two cents worth. I have many liberal views, but making excuses for extreme islamists isn't one of them, for these guys threaten the very freedoms that allow me to air such views.

Good post.

warm xx


warmandsexy52 66M
13164 posts
8/10/2006 4:29 pm

I have a good friend who is a devout muslim. One of his two degrees is in Sharia Law. We have spoken often. Much as he is on a personal level a kind-hearted, law abiding, peace-loving man, I have no illusions about the fact that his world view is totally different from mine. He is a good and caring husband (as far as I can tell), but his wife is clothed in black and veiled. He will not shake a woman's hand, because his faith implies this is a sexual gesture.

However, not all muslims are like my friend, who despite his devoutness is moderate in his actions and considers people's humanity. Many muslims believe that they have an absolute right to higher virtue and the morality of the West is reprehensible. We are worse than sinners, because Allah does not forgive. There is no redemption, as there is in Christianity. We in the secular West are the damned. The less than human. Hitler and the Nazis had a similar term ....... the untermenschen.

It is therefore only a small step from deeming people to be subhuman to be able to destroy them with impunity and without conscience and humanity. The gates of Auschwitz testify to this, but equally the collapsing twin towers do too. Combine with this the "evangelical" nature of islam and jihad - which means "struggle" - as the spreading of the word by either peaceful or warlike means and you have a deadly concoction. There is a muslim sect in the UK that is seeking to make Britain an islamic republic and have distributed pamphlets to that effect.

Now coming to Hizbollah, who are just a political party within a democratic Lebanon, and not the party in power. They have been sending rockets into Israel long before the current crisis. They are actively supported, equipped and financed by Iran, in the same way the Reagan government supported the Contras. Their aim is the total destruction of Israel. They saw what the consequences were when Hamas kidnapped an Israeli soldier in Gaza and knew Israel would react heavily as they did. It seems that Israel's heavy handed retaliation can be used against them on a PR front - to make Israel look bad in front of the rest of the world. So they provoke Israel, knowing what the consequences are for the Lebanese people and then claim that they are the champions of the Lebanese cause. It's devious and manipulative, but within a certain interpretation it is jihad because it seeks to expand islam by diminishing judaism.

And Israel knows the score. These islamic fundamentalists have only one aim ....... to drive every jew into the sea. And it is an aim they still repeat regularly.

And the islamic majority are caught in a double bind. To accept the monstrous behaviour of the extremists says they collude. To openly reject such actions is being presented as reacting against the furtherance of the cause and the "moral virtues" islam espouses, and even to "side with the enemy." So they sit on the fence and say nothing, allowing politicised clerics to fill the vacuum.

And as for Israel - well the Jews went like lambs to the slaughter still in living memory, They are not naive. It could happen again, but they're damn well not going to let it be so, and rightfully too.

Well that's my two cents worth. I have many liberal views, but making excuses for extreme islamists isn't one of them, for these guys threaten the very freedoms that allow me to air such views.

Good post.

warm xx


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/10/2006 7:59 pm

warm ... i thank you for a very comprehensive and Fact - Based comment.. .it warrants that i comment point bi point.

1. We also do have muslim friends ..... including shia "less than human". ... the untermenschen ...yes, under all the BS words to appear like us, that is how many (i actually think most, and i do mean over 50%, NOT just a a figure of speech) feel inside.

2. "It is therefore only a small step from deeming people to be subhuman to be able to destroy them with impunity and without conscience and humanity. The gates of Auschwitz testify to this" So many of us dont know at all that they see us as of no value .... and, as u say, that makes it easy to do anything to us .. which they will if they get their way. Remember, Mohamed was not a "turn the other cheek" kinda guy ... he was the most profilic butcher / / plunderer to that point in history (which is why they made him their hero ) ....so, why would we ever expect good from his followers??) DUH!! ...... Ever think about that libs? .. .naw

3. "Hizbollah are actively supported, equipped and financed by Iran" . True, and may I add "Initiated by and lead by". They are an instrument of Iran, in fact.

4. "And Israel knows the score" YES, Israelis alone understand and appreciate how serious it all is ... and they have they are fighting for their very survival ... we are also, but like France etc. in 35, we dont know it yet.... we are still worried about our civil rights .... pppppfffftttt ... how about my kids' Right to Life Itself??

5. And the islamic majority are caught in a double bind. To accept the monstrous behaviour of the extremists says they collude. Again true .. .and may I add that often, those who oppose and / or their families, would be killed by the most radical / ferverent.

6. I also am liberal on many social items ... but this has nothing to do with "social liberalism" ...... islamic terror is out to kill EVERY non muslim ...... i will correct that ..... islamic terror is out to kill EVERY "NON-FUNDAMENTALIST" muslim..... whether muslim or otherwise.

Extremely Good Comment Guy!!!!!


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/10/2006 8:26 pm

From the Profile of my Favorite ParaGlider

My deepest fond affections
To you I want to show,
But my horny little devil
Is asking for a blow.

I want to write sweet nothings
Things like, “I thee adore.”
The he comes out with, “Spread your legs,
You dirty fucking whore.”


lmfao ...Dont worry warmandsexy52 ...... i will NEVER tell who's profile it is.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/12/2006 2:45 pm

my reply to yet another goofy academic type ivory tower "blame us" ... "it is for us to understand their violent words, bla, bla etc etc" post >> [post 465900]

a lot of words .... .ending with being just ANOTHER "blame ourselves" ... so common in a certain part of our own society ... this is about the 10th different "blame us" approach I've from that segment.

bottom line for them as well as for EVERYONE, say what you mean clearly ..... I spent a lot of time with an Iranian shia discussing this very topic ..... his explanation was that " Ahmadinejad is only trying to gain support from his own rebellious citizenry ... and we misinterpret him" .... i think that was "blame us # 7", lol. .. .and just ANOTHER convenient "it's not our fault - it's your fault". ...Like we are supposed to read it that way and "understand" .... NOT!!!!

it is not for us to interpret the possible nuances of deliberately explosive words and statements about annihilation of a country, for example, (just 1 among many deliberately explosive statements) ... it is for any speaker, ANY speaker, to be clear to their audience, because the entire word takes words literally, as they should. It is only for academics in their silly ivory towers to parse the nuances .... others have real work to do and are fully occupied trying to do their jobs in life .... and cant possibly spend their lives trying to understand others silly and deliberate distortions within their own language. .. nor should they divert into lala land.

The irresponsible of our world don't need you or anyone to help them try to "opt out of acting responsibly" and to make excuses for them ..... frankly, they do it very well themselves!! Whatever drives you excuse makers for perpetrators... who always blame victims???

Understanding the horrible relevance to us of the Shia Twelver 6th Century Prophesies and his rush to make Armageddon happen as soon as possible (a topic I notice conveniently not mentioned above) is about as far as anyone has a right to expect of the busy "doers" of our world. They rightly and wisely do their job as best they can and leave the further nuancing to the ivory towers of academia.


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
8/13/2006 4:25 am

Hi Jess,

Went and took a look at the blog post that you referenced above.

In her original message she is talking about trying to open a meaningful dialogue with those from other cultures taking into consideration the nuances and viewpoint. Yet in her comment to you, she is doing exactly what she is complaining about. Rather then open a dialogue with you she completely ignores the points that you were trying to make and then shuts down all further dialogue with you by telling you that she doesn't want you coming back, she's not in the mood to talk with you.

So how could anyone take what she says seriously when she espouses one thing and then does the exact same thing that she is complaining about.

I left a comment to this effect on her blog, but I don't expect anything meaningful to come from it as she seems to be just another who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters and that they are alway right.

Hugzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/13/2006 9:04 am

thanks jackie ..... as we should know enuff to expect bi now, lol, the bone headed "blame ourselves" crowd will not deal with facts ..... rather make up their own facts to allow them to blame us. The approach of not dealing even with clearly layed out approach point bi point should be expected bi now.

I hadnt been back yet, so just have yoyr description as post is down now i think .. i only get [post 465900], and no link .. i will keep an eye asto whether it was removed, or just altered and down temporarily.

I copied it here as i had expressed my own views so well, lol, that i wanted it to be seen. (pats on back, or on this site, on bum, are accepted) ...if u could only see me with hands on floor and bum extended and vulnerable ... .typing onto laptop on floor

sometimes it makes me angry knowing that we must not only fight those would kill us and them .... knowing that "them" is the "enemy within". ... sometimes i wish we couls selectively protect ourselves, but NOT them , lol ... i'll works on ideas for that one ....


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/13/2006 1:13 pm

lol, yup i guess she took post down .... .damn, and i didnt even get to see here reaction to my "exceptionally brilliant" cum back, lmfao!!!!!

So, i see Leb govt and Hiz are trying to weazle out after agreeing on UN deal ... lmao ..... wow, ... im Sooooooooooo surprised. Fucking (certain religious group i wont name as that wouldnt be Politically Correct) bastards tell ZERO truth ... lying has no meaning to them .. in fact, i take that back ... it does have meaning .... i firmly now believe that it is considered a "good" .... so long as it is "them" doing it ... i mean it lterally.

SMELL the COFFEE folks ...... THIS is what we are dealing with ... lying being a "good" .... combined with NEVER taking responsibility for anything ... it's always "the other guys' fault ... NEVER theirs!!!


cougarprey4play 42M

8/13/2006 3:39 pm

So any new updates - I heard that the Israelis were going to vote on the UN resolution/draft today...


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/14/2006 3:20 pm

New(ance) Feature!!
I was so inspired by a sweet lib post [post 465900] informing me that it is "my duty as a westerner" to learn to nuance what "they" say, that I will daily nuance good ole Ahmy's ongoing loving gems in this section.
.
Nuancing "Ahmadinejad" & "Armageddon"
Latest "Armageddejod" !!
.
Literal > "There will not be normalized relations with the US until THEY change their ways"
.
Nuanced > "We will continue getting nukes so we can start Blessed Armageddon soon, keep supplying Hizbollah and all terrorists worldwide so they can bring destruction to the west and keep on calling you bad names so I can be a bigger cheeze in the muslim world. (But you really must quit pissing me off by bitching about us doing these very bad things, so we can become good friends)"

Previous "Armageddejods" !!
Literal > "Israel must be annihilated"
Nuanced > "I want to help Allah by speeding up Blessed Armageddon. According to my Shia "Twelver" beliefs, it is coming anyhow, as soon as damned Israel gets on with the trigger, their "real" holocaust, and then us guys will all go to our own special blissful heaven. (In other words, if it's a "good thing" for us guys, so, why not Armageddon fucking NOW rather than later?)."
Literal > "There was NO Holocaust"
Nuanced > "Please understand, it is the "real" holocaust of Israel that starts Armageddon so I can go to heaven. (Israelis saying "they already had a holocaust" is really pissing me off cause it's making it harder to recruit murderers who will start blessed Armageddon happening) "
Literal > " I have 50,000 trained Terrorists to send out if you try to stop me "
Nuanced > "Don't try to stop me from making my Blessed Armageddon a reality soon, cause I've got a backup plan. (If you fucking try to stop my plans to go to my Shia Heaven soon, i'll make you really really sorry for it) "
(I feel so "liberalated" .. so .. so .. so ... so "international" now)


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
8/15/2006 8:17 pm

my reply to a good post by pmail051 [post 470246] included here as it says some things i want to say.

hi pmail ... good post .. .good overall look at it .. i agree on the airlines bit totally .... just want to comment on your last paragraph.

Still I guess it's just putting a finger in a leaking dam, plug one area and two more leaks appear......... so well put ... reacting is what we do ..... im not sure we can plug every hole ... in fact, we cant!!

"solving the cause of the problem that keeps making more terrorists" ...... implies that we should change and that it is not an "inherant" problem .....ok, having studied hard at this since we smelled a problem cuming in 1991, also lived close up to muslim terror in Filippines for 94 - 98 ..... I have found nothing that we could ever do to stop this fundamentalist group from following their perverted version of a religion toward the objective of killing all non muslims ... no, all non "Fundamentalist" muslims, including all muslims who will not go their way. This is not a situation for our so often used "we must be to blame" .... they are doing it based on centuries old rhetoric ... ....ok, did we get a thank you for saving then in Bosnia? .. no!! ....Kosovo? ... no!! ..... (i suspect they even resented our having to save them ... fundamentalists dont let anyone win no matter what they do ... they have an agenda that always was unchangeable) ...i think it is time we "Smelled the Coffee" ... we cant change them.... no matter what we do. Their words of course blame us ... . that does not mean that they wont do it no matter what we do.

I don't have the answers...... nor do I ... I only have the "question" ...how do we survive their religious driven deathwish? ... how could we ever compete with the sexual / adrenaline /power rush the suicide bomber feels, or for that matter, his boss in a cave, or in Tehran ... or in .....

Then, there is the 6th Century "Shia Armageddon" thingy which no one can argue has anything to do with us ... we are just tools to make it happen for them. Then, there is the Shia vs Sunni deadly "wipe each other out" thing which we are caught up in .... then there is the Shia "Hidden Messiah" ... the Shia "Twelvers" bent on their joyfull blessed Armageddon .. .and now in a real hurry to help it along .....then we have ...... and the list goes on .

Then, right up to date and in our face now, there is Ahmadinejod (whom ive appropriately and lovingly nicknamed "Armageddejod" on my blog stuff on him. ... appropriate nick when one delves in to his religious background and the details of those beliefs... .and are aware or what he has already set in motion toward that end.

If only it were so easy that it were in our power to stop them from what they set out to do .... if only ....... if only

LilJessicaSQuirt
My ♥§ΩuirT♥er & MFM Blog


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
9/11/2006 5:58 pm

i take the liberty of re-phrasing what i said above.

"have found nothing that we could ever do to stop this "fundamentalist group" from following their perverted version of a religion toward the objective of killing all non muslims ... no, all non "Fundamentalist" muslims, including all muslims who will not go their way"

It's not just "fundamentalists / extremists" - they are ALL just obeying their god - in lieu of roasting in hell as he tells them will happen if they dont make muslim universal

I done some studying of the qur'an & habitha, - in literally many over 100 verses, .. ALL muslims are ordered to kill all no-muslims and make the world be muslim - their Caliphate ["Khilafah"]. That is why so called "moderates" do nothing but sympathize ... they are ordered to be part of it by their "blessed?? allah".
The more I learn, the more I realize the depth of evil, perseverance, patience etc we face - that it will never end - i mean.... to be a muslim, you MUST believe" in this and support it - or, "you will burn on hell forever" (most qur'an wording is a lot more graphic and grotesque than my words here).


It all is not pretty folks!!! - and a lot more serious than even the so called war mongering pres of US realizes it is - a LOT more. He is not overkilling - in fact, he is very "liberal" in light of the actual facts of what is happening - a wimp yet - cause even he doesnt "Get It Yet"


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
9/16/2006 9:55 pm

Hi gang!! - a copy of my second comment to a very thought provoking blog post [post 465900] by a fine lady in India.

"The onus is on the USA to understand an (Islamic) world " ... was actually what really got me going - that runs so counter my logical thought habit. Like, just say what you mean, if you arnt used to doing so, learn. But what a person says, they are responsible for - playing word / mind games will get us all nuked, or Iran taken out before they can, one or the other, and all because of the silly word play appropriate only for children. It is every person on this earth's own responsibility to "talk straight". or they will realize the consequences of there error. No one can, nor should be forced to read anothers mind - that is a very dangerous thing to attempt when stakes are high - and even more dangerous to force another to play that game.

If they do not "grow up" & "talk straight", they will trigger the Armageddon that these Iran Sh'ia Hidden Imam 12vers are tying to precipitate. After years of studying the Sunna, I have this past cpl of years focussed on finding all I can on Sh'ia, and especially the 12ver sect of it which is aiming to make their wished - for Armageddon happen soon.


Very accurate words by bandito - he has it right - and fairly put. Im not a GWB fan, but, like US or not, it isnot they causing this one - they are being used to fulfill the dream of the Iranian leaders. This guy I call appropriately "Armageddejod" (because i do know his history and personal suicidal beliefs) is trying to get the US to make it "happen" - as he wants his blessed heaven NOW!!, not when Allah decides. Even understanding this does not stop him from succeeding - it (he and his mullahs) is the worse situation the world has ever faced - as there is likely no solution - they will get their way.

You are absolutely right at the top of your post - "I think we're in the middle of WW3". That statement and this post triggered me to do a sarcastic post on nuancing "Armageddejod"s (just havin some fun with him) and also tuned up my Blog Description thanks to several of our lib a f f Anti-Semetics (absolutely not refering to you on this one) spouting their hate from their ivory towers, with absolutely zero understanding of the Qur'an, it's "orders" to it's flock, nor of the Sh'ia Hidden Imiam rush to Armageddon. Several posts have spurred me on to tell it like it is, not as we might think or wish it is.

I really like your blog, and the kindness showed on it and congratulate you on many great posts / thoughts. I also enjoy being kind, dont let the harshness of my blog words fool ya - i am just "calling it like it is" to make people think about the horrible and likely unsolvable dilemas the world is in the middle of from several directions as both Sh'ia and Sunna finally are moving to complete their 14 Century dreams, exaclty as they were ordered to do 1400 yrs ago. I use sarcastic humour as my weapon to disarm the would be invaders and make the unknowing public "think" about what is rally happening.
J.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
9/16/2006 10:01 pm

Hi gang!! - a copy of my second comment to a very thought provoking blog post [post 465900] by a fine lady in India.

"The onus is on the USA to understand an (Islamic) world " ... was actually what really got me going - that runs so counter my logical thought habit. Like, just say what you mean, if you arnt used to doing so, learn. But what a person says, they are responsible for - playing word / mind games will get us all nuked, or Iran taken out before they can, one or the other, and all because of the silly word play appropriate only for children. It is every person on this earth's own responsibility to "talk straight". or they will realize the consequences of there error. No one can, nor should be forced to read anothers mind - that is a very dangerous thing to attempt when stakes are high - and even more dangerous to force another to play that game.

If they do not "grow up" & "talk straight", they will trigger the Armageddon that these Iran Sh'ia Hidden Imam 12vers are tying to precipitate. After years of studying the Sunna, I have this past cpl of years focussed on finding all I can on Sh'ia, and especially the 12ver sect of it which is aiming to make their wished - for Armageddon happen soon.

Very accurate words by bandito - he has it right - and fairly put. Im not a GWB fan, but, like US or not, it is not they causing this one - they are being used to fulfill the dream of the Iranian leaders. This guy I call appropriately "Armageddejod" (because i do know his history and personal suicidal beliefs) is trying to get the US to make it "happen" - as he wants his blessed heaven NOW!!, not when Allah decides. Even understanding this does not stop him from succeeding - it (he and his mullahs) is the worse situation the world has ever faced - as there is likely no solution - they will get their way.

You are absolutely right at the top of your post - "I think we're in the middle of WW3". That statement and this post triggered me to do a sarcastic post on nuancing "Armageddejod"s (just havin some fun with him) and also tuned up my Blog Description thanks to several of our lib a f f Anti-Semetics (absolutely not refering to you on this one) spouting their hate from their ivory towers, with absolutely zero understanding of the Qur'an, it's "orders" to it's flock, nor of the Sh'ia Hidden Imiam rush to Armageddon. Several posts have spurred me on to tell it like it is, not as we might think or wish it is.

I really like your blog, and the kindness showed on it and congratulate you on many great posts / thoughts. I also enjoy being kind, dont let the harshness of my blog words fool ya - i am just "calling it like it is" to make people think about the horrible and likely unsolvable dilemas the world is in the middle of from several directions as both Sh'ia and Sunna finally are moving to complete their 14 Century dreams, exaclty as they were ordered to do 1400 yrs ago. I use sarcastic humour as my weapon to disarm the would be invaders and make the unknowing public "think" about what is rally happening.
J.


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
9/17/2006 5:23 am

Jess,

I took the time to go read her blog, along with both your and her comments to each other. My comment there was:

Seems to me that we have a fundamental disconnect here between you two. Both sides completely blowing off what the other has to say. Isn't it one of the fundamental principles of communication to allow for the fact that some of what others have to say may be correct, even when it goes against what you believe. Not trying to say that either side is more or less correct, just that you will never get anywhere in your discourse if neither side is ever willing to admit that what the other has to say may at least be partially correct and build from there. Just my 2 cents.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
9/17/2006 10:15 am

hi jackie

What you say abt "blowing off" the other's premise is true. That said and allowed for, I will return to the original premise as I did in my reply (above) - the opening statement and premise for the entire post kinda set the pace plus put blame / responsibility on one party with no room to move"The onus is on the USA to understand an (Islamic) world "

The writter was clearly saying that it was ok to play word games and that the other the other must learn how to understand un true words. My point, simply put is that - 1. why is everything put onto the West to play their game? Their method (as she described), is a game (saying opposite to what you mean is a game, and not helping anything) - and there is no time for games here. - 2. anything short of saying what you mean is dangerous - i will also add that it is beyond dangerous, as it is based on falshood.

Initially, i allowed some credance to what my Iranian friend said, and allowed that it might be true "he is talking big and playing word games to impress his people which is full of many dissidents" - however, as time progressed and the west's reaction was stern, I suggest that he is not playing to his home crowd - he has gone way too far for that - i mean, causing moving of nuke submarines to be moved into position (u can bet they are doing so)is a level far beyond his trying to make political hay with his people for political reasons. Despite the west's raction he has not let up - in fact, keeps uping the anti - like how do we deal with someone who says "Israel must be destroyed", for example, even allowing that "they" often talk in ways we are not used to. Im bettin he mean "Israel must be destroyed", not some nuance of it. When you study Sh'ia prophesies, another dimension enters, (they believe Armageddon starts with the holocast of Israel" - i will repeat my tried and true "Smell the Coffee" - dont slide around or distort the "obvious"

Again, i will say that, in any case, the onus is allways on the speaker to try to be as clear as he can be - not on the listener to "guess" what he "really means" - a any other logic is illogical (did i really say that?, lol) I fail to understand any deviating from that could ever be right.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
9/17/2006 3:32 pm



For some of my twisted fun with statements by good old Aly Ahmadinejad, the Self Stated Armaggedonist, I invite viewing my
The Latest ARMAGEDDEJODs Our Very Own LIB AntiSemitics post


sooolongsuckers 42M

9/24/2006 1:48 pm

Ill get back to ya on this. I got a few bible quotes of my own.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
9/24/2006 4:50 pm

hi sooooolong

This has nothing to do with the "bible" - that is a separate issue.

Ok, but this is NOT a comparison - plus, the bible is not my book anyhow & and a "Pissing Match" is not a discussion. - If you refute, and support it, re: what I say the Qur'an says, PLEASE DO SO

This is ONLY a warning as to what Islam is up to - a deadly plot which WILL get us if we dont act & maybe even if we do become aware.

What the "bible" says does not refute what the Qur'an says - merely "clouds" the issue.

I am open to honest discussion, but "diversion" is not fair or constructive discussion

The bible may have some screwy passages - but few act on iy - Literally 100,000s ARE acting on the Qur'an's orders - another thing to put it all in perspective. - please, sooo, no pissing contest, lol


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
9/24/2006 5:35 pm

soooolong

say, I didnt mean that as to stiffle good discussion at all.

good discussion and Facts are great and I well Cum it

just wanted to be clear that what something else says is not relevant - I never intended a "Comparison" is all I meant - I would soooo love to be proven wrong on what the Qur'an says - but Im just going by it's own words and the obvious and daily now actions of it's followers.

Hey, it's not me sayin 1. Their god tells them to do bad things & 2. they do bad things for their god
- THEY are saying that.


Kmunch_Returns 60M

9/26/2006 1:37 pm

Kmunch aware.
Kmunch wonder if lil squirt read [post 471467] yet?


Kmunch_Returns 60M

9/26/2006 1:43 pm

Kmunch more aware after read lil suirt post.

Now Kmunch wonder if lil squirt read [post 471067] yet?


Kmunch_Returns 60M

9/26/2006 1:45 pm

Me come back to quran after. Wonder if Lil squirt sign [post 521512] yet?


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
9/26/2006 3:08 pm

Post suggested by Kmunch reads: "We, the bloggers of AdultFriendFinder , petition the powers of other bloggers to do away with the mud-slinging and bickering within our creative spaces. Bloggers have gone too far and its time to call a halt to the negativity. The confines of this media should be filled with creative, positive forces. Bloggers are leaving, some new bloggers come in and see the example thats being set for before them, soon this will be a cess pool.
By signing this petition, you agree to put new effort in the positive artistic forces flowing through, you also agree that you are not a fake or a phony, and will blog from your own heart and mind. With no vengence or hatred for other bloggers."


I went to the post you mentioned - not sure why you think it applies to me? - unless 1. my comedic digs at those who do not bother to find out REAL FACTS (like libs with no facts think Islam Caliphate is good stuff) bothers you? - or, 2. my main topic is to "Harsh" for you? or 3. that i am a "fake or phony"? or 4. that what i post is not "from my heart"?
-----------------------------------------------

My comment to the post you suggested I visit is as follows:

I agree on the "Negative Bashing" bit of course plus "mud-slinging and bickering" should go!!!

BUT, your
"creative, positive", when applied to a "legitimate serious but negative topic" is anOxymoron. "Creative" absolutely is not making a bad thing into a good thing, "Creative" is dealing with it AS IT IS, or as the writer views it to be - for topics of our world, heavy is heavy - making it "Alice in Wonderlandy" is NOT creative and more important, not honest artistically. When applied to a Real Item that IS Negative this would be stiffling and the opposite of "creative".

I get the feeling here (correct me if im wrong) that we should discuss only "positive" things - if so, then i disagree strongly - that would be "Alice in Wonderlandy" at best - and ANTI "creative"

So, sign me up for "no silly tearing down others" - but NOT for stiffling creative works that are not about "nice" topics - and NOT for avoiding challenging other's bogus statements which do not pass the "Fact" test, either. When I do challenge, i try to do it in a comedic way to point out the folly, but not by name calling - I will continue to post lots on the heaviest topic in our world today - and to tongue in cheek, maybe lil bit sarcastically, "tease" those who deal with serious items in a Alice in Wonderlandy - or "ostrichy" way. I will not run from reality just because others might choose to, thank you.

(again, if i took it wrong, let me know and i will confess to taking it wrong, and be very pleased that this is not what was meant)

LilJessicaSQuirt
My ♥§ΩuirT♥er & MFM Blog


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
9/26/2006 3:28 pm

OK, i think im gettin it now that i went to Kmu..... i meant ...Sooolongs blog .... lmfao!!! .... had BOTH of u wrong i think ...... apologies if i did.

LilJessicaSQuirt
My ♥§ΩuirT♥er & MFM Blog

i just hate bein "had" and no sperm swimmin down my thighs to show for it,


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
9/26/2006 9:33 pm

Chalk one up for the "Good Guys"

A fleeing Al Qaida Jihadi, desperate for water, was plodding through the Iraqi desert when he saw something far off in the distance. Hoping to find water, he walked toward the object, only to find a little old Jewish man at a small stand selling neckties.

The Al Qaida Jihadi asked, "Do you have water?" The little Jewish man replied, "I have no water. Would you like to buy a tie? They are only 5 Bucks
The Arab shouted, "Idiot Jew Pig! Israel should not exist! I do not need an overpriced tie. I need water! I should kill you, but I must find water first."

"Ok, ok ", said the little old Jew, "It does not matter that you do not want to buy a tie and that you hate me". I will show you that I am bigger than that. If you continue over that hill to the east for about two miles, you will find a lovely restaurant. It has all the water you need. Shalom."

Muttering, the Al Qaida Jihadi staggered away over the hill. Several hours later he came crawling back, near collapse and said, ..........................yup...............u guessed it ....."Your brother won't let me in without a tie."
(Even Our Anti-Semetic liberals must smile at that one - ok, ...maybe not)


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
9/30/2006 6:00 pm

I found this truly reflected my feelings - so I will let it speak for them

You Worry Me

By: American Airlines Pilot - Captain John Maniscalco
The authenticity of this has not been fully determined - however, even as a citizen, and of Canada not the USA, the principles here echo my own feelings and words, and the feelings of many, if not most Westerners. (I have altered it only to reflect ALL Western countries which the problem affects, not only the United States for which he wrote it).

"You worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of my Western country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me. I notice you because I can't help it anymore. - People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully understand their grievances and hate but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.

On September 11, nineteen ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in our Western World. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children's mothers.

Most important, they did it in the name of your religion and claimed to represent ALL Islam. You have not strongly shown me that they do not represent you. I wish you had done so or would do so. Please convince me!!

So I notice you now. I don't want to be worried. I don't want to be consumed by the same rage and hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need your help. As a rational Westerner, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorist.

How do I differentiate between the true Arab-Muslim Americans and the Arab-Muslims in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter those very same good neighbors and children? The events of September 11th changed the answer. It is not my responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great countries, with ALL of their many religions, with ALL of it's different citizens, with all of it's faults. It is time for every Arab-Muslim in the West to determine it for me.

I want to know, I demand to know, and I have a right to know whether or not you love this country. Do you pledge allegiance to it's principles? Do you show pride in our / your flag, or do you even consider it to be your flag? Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation, that He will protect and prosper it?

Or, do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your "Jihads"? Are you thankful for the freedom that only this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love this western country? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it - because I am not getting that message from you yet.

Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions you are taking as a community and as a religion to protect this country. Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent because I worry about who you regard as innocent. And no more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy, or excuses, or blaim targetting us.

I am only interested in action.

What will you do for our mutual great country – at this time of crisis, at this time of war?

I want to see Arab-Muslims waving our flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting "Allah Bless this Western country". I want to see young Arab-Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time, and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this nation as a whole.

The Federal Security Agency has a list of 100s of people they want to talk to regarding the WTC attack and other attacks. Many of these people live and socialize in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are. Hand them over to us, now!

But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals.

The very few Arab-Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States prove who was responsible for 9/11 or any attacks before taking action - does really "appear" to be a "diversionary" tactic, rather than clearly taking responsibility to "act" in our mutual benifit. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the Western counties than they did with supporting our country and denouncing "leaders" like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat. If the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the teachings in the Qur'an are "good and pure and true" when your "leaders" are teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance - and on the Other Hand - Actually, I have noticed 100s of verses ordering killing of non-believers, taking over non-believers as slaves, and degrading and cruelly contolling women as possessions. Please explain to me why I should not take these many verses literally.

It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if large numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members defended Johnny Cochran and O. J. Simpson after the latter butchered his wife and murdered an innocent friend. A form whose members (some as young as five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the Western flags, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the West and the country of their birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.

Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because our women proudly show their faces in public rather than cover up like a shameful whore?

Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because we drink wine with dinner, or celebrate Christmas? Do you and you fellow Muslims hate us because we have befriended Israel, the ONLY civilized democratic nation in the entire middle-east? And if you and your fellow Muslims hate us, then WHY in the world are you even here?

Are you here to take our money? Are you here to undermine our peace and stability? Are you here to destroy us? If so, I want you to leave. I want you to go back to your Muslim country of origin where women are treated like possessions instead of proud humans. I want you to take your religion, your friends, and your family back to your Islamic extremists, and STAY THERE!

We will NEVER give in to your influence, your retarded mentality, your twisted, violent, intolerant religion. We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us: Our rights under the constitutions of our Western counties.

I want to know where every Arab-Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to demand it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family.

I am pleading with you to let me know.

I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow countyman or woman. But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance!!

it is up to YOU,

to show ME,

where YOU stand!!

Until then ... you worry me.


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
10/14/2006 7:21 pm

I'm not asking that you take my word for it.
Please, Scan the ♥Qur'an♥
Like, ...stoning,... cutting off hands, ...feet, ....penis's, ...heads, etc. weren't major clues
something is VERY wrong with Ghengis's, ...oops, Adol, ..oops, ... Muham"MAD"'s Islam?

You See, It's NOT "Just the Radicals" - It's the Whole Damn Thing


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
10/14/2006 10:41 pm

hiya Spunker

Yup, we got millions of Ostriches here ...... we believe in seeking truth, not PC or what we might want to believe.

Have been reading their Book .... of Peace, ya, right ..... . kinda summarized it in the Blog Description .....endeers me to the PC crowd, lol.

Thanks ... do cum anytime spunker!!!! .... have seen u around a lot lately, u r well cum to comment here ANYTIME.
Lil


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
10/15/2006 2:56 am

...J,

Hope you don't mind my posting here something I found on one of the sites I follow. Its part of an answer to someones question about transsexuality but I think its relevent in the context of your postings here.

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In bringing up the awful subject of shame, I cannot avoid the source of that shame, which in the industrialized world is primarily one thing alone: Christianity, Islam, and Judaism....the very big business of religion. Of the three, Christianity is the dominant force in the world, for it has taken control of the countries with real power in the world.

I can only hope that you will have succeeded in throwing off the shackles of 'Christian Love' and have learned to see yourself as special and wonderful for being transsexual. I can hope that, but I know how difficult it is...my own struggle with shame led me to out myself and create this site which you have visited.

Any religion that creates and defines 'abominations' is a warfare-based religion. It strives to conquer, to become dominant. It proselytizes and converts. It defines rigid and often arbitrary standards of 'Good' and 'Evil', of 'Us' versus 'Them'. It demonizes the different in order to create a focus of hate and unity. A warfare-based religion rallies the 'spiritual troops' by inventing enemies. It denies the world in favor of a reward given after death, at the end of 'service' in the 'Army of the Lord'. By doing these things, unity, self sacrifice, and social power are generated.

It is easy to see how transsexuals, homosexuals, and the transgendered in general would be made into an enemy...we do not tend to promote the 'fruitful' explosion of population required to achieve conquest, and we raise troubling questions just by existing. We are proof that mistakes can occur, and if God is perfect, and God gives us our children...well, then we MUST be the work of God's enemies. We then become useful, for we become another evil to shun, a rallying point for all to work together to destroy, another common enemy that brings the 'troops' into line.

Of all of the Warfare-Based religions, I do think that Christianity is the absolutely most successful. It is positively admirable in a dark and terrible way, for it appears in the guise of redemption for all, while simultaneously excluding and destroying everything different. It is the supreme achievement of Doublespeak, it kills out of love, shames out of forgiveness, condemns out of tolerance, murders out of compassion, and has burned people at stakes in order to bless them with the love of God. It is brilliant at what it does, and it conquers not only physically, but spiritually, inside, where there is no place to hide. The 'Sword of God' is very sharp, and is hard to overcome. The military strategy of conquest and domination is brilliant, and the tactics of Christianity well refined. By comparison, Islam, the next most successful warfare-based religion, is slightly clumsy. It works though, and by virtue of identical principles.


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If you don't think this is appropriate just delete it.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
10/15/2006 4:04 am

...J,

I decided to also post this on my blog with some of how I look at and feel about organized religion here ->Controversy. So if you want you can delete it here and use this link.

Hugzz,
Jackie

btw: as you can see I felt like stirring up a bit of a controversy today -lol-


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
10/15/2006 9:11 am

jackie - thanks - of course its ok, a good post - while i dont see Xianity as promoting or in detail instructing war as in the "WorldTakover for Dunnies" - there are pasts of old test that are ugly

the way it treats transsexuals, homosexuals, and the transgendered very badly, that is fact and an adomination

fortunately it doesnt become a How To manual, and repeat the same orders often 100s of times ..... most of the worse verses are seen only once, raising questions for me as to does it represent what the book overall is claiming god him / her / their self really would want .....

good comment - i look forward to viewing your post of it & your take on it.
huggs .. J.


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
10/16/2006 3:40 am

Jess,

You know that until the formation of all the major religions of today, transsexuls actually had a special place within many different cultures. It was with the advent of modern religions, mostly Christianity and Judaism, that we became objects of revulsion and hatred. Many of the laws here in the states written to promote equality have clauses specifically written to exclude transsexuals. We, meaning transsexuals, are probably the most discriminated against minority in all of history. And because of the small number present in any one culture have very little hope of causing a change in our status within them. In many cultures we are even considered to be subhuman, and therefore open to all the hate and abuse they want to inflict on us. Just one example would be the large percentage of unsolved murder of transsexuals. Those who are punished by the court system generally receive little more than a slap on the wrist. So you'll have to forgive me for having no sympathy at all for the bigotry fostered by todays religions.

Now I feel as though I need to apologize for going off like this on your blog. Guess I really should finish writing the discrimination story I started sometime ago.

Love ya,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
10/16/2006 9:03 am

jackie - yes, i understand the transexuals are the most discriminated against by Xianity and also most others.

You are right that natural religions approve - an example, while regarding gay alone, is when we stayed on indian reserve in Sask - they found our lesbian good friend "spec1al" because she had "2 souls within her".


RevJoseyWales 71M/67F
14393 posts
10/16/2006 1:23 pm

Thanks for posting these things. I'm glad someone else here is on to these people. Should be required reading. My hat's off for some great research. Joe

"McVeigh had the right idea, wrong address."

"This ain't Dodge City, and you ain't Bill Hickok."


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
10/16/2006 1:46 pm

I do thank you "FastFifties"

Please drop bi anytime and contribute your thoughts on the subject. I have seen you before around blogs and would luv your input - so im not "ALL ALONE !!!

lil


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
10/18/2006 3:07 am

Jess,

You're never alone, well at least not for long -lol-

Posted something you might like to read [post 552895].
Hope the link shows up, as it hadn't yet been posted at the time I wrote this.

And so its starts again. It was said at the end of WWII that it was the war to end all wars, and nothing like it would ever happen again. Guess they were wrong, just takes one mad-man in the right place at the right time to take us back to the brink.

Hugzzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
10/18/2006 9:41 am

hi jackie .... it;s 12.41 eastern time and it hasnt shown yet --- will monitor it


rm_jackie40503 71T
1323 posts
10/18/2006 3:47 pm

Jess,

Don't know whats going on with it, I posted it around 5:30 this morning.
It hasn't been disapproved by the powers that be so I have no idea whats going on. Its rather long or I would have posted a copy here for you to read. If it doesn't show up by morning, I'll repost it and see what happens.

Hugzz,
Jackie


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
10/19/2006 11:28 am

Hall no proof, lol, just agenda i think

Hi Jackie - yes, their computer likely picked up a word or 2 that stopped it - happens, not often tho.
Seems if post list in "blogs" is changing, and you dodnt seee it live in an hour, it likely was banned - be nice if they notified faster tho

Did searches on the author - he is basically a cartoonist, MAD mag etc - lots of political stuff

I find that we can find anything on the internet - and so many govt haters, that i am cautious who i take seriously - agendas drive most - and real facts is another thing ....

I dont see QUOTES of text in the bill here - leaving reader no PROOF at all - like me saying Qur'an "says bad things" means nothing!!!! .... quoting and identifying passages is what i call meaningfull & the ONLY type of article i give any credence to. (lots of " he did this, ... hitler, .... it says bla bla ... not even a single reference to a passage in the bill - just "general dramatic words" really takes from even a small amt of credability for what he is dramatizing about.

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This aside, my "impression" to date on bill is that it was watered down and very weak overall - and not appropriate for wartime - that the libs succeeded in making it very "terrorist friendly" -

Also, I dont see terrorists as coming under any laws - and dont agree at all with "The United States has ceded the moral high ground to its enemies" - AU CONTRARE - we are trying to fight a street fighter by using Marquis de Queensbury" rules, the ultimate stupidity - and that always looses.

Just ! Example:
Bernard Goldberg, author of 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America: "There is loathsome and there is beneath loathsome. And then there's Ted Rall."
I do not take anyone as gospel, but do respect Bernie a lot - so this might at least place author in the area of his credabilty and most impt, his area of "AGENDA" - and this guy seems faaaaaaaar out on agenda from what i found - anyhow, no proof = no credability
(as comparison, Bernies book is loaded with quotes - references etc for every single person he comments on) Other stuff i found on Hall showed no references or proof

Cartoonists are in many ways more powerfull than presidents - in that they can say whatever they want (including often very wrong agendas) and then cop out -"it's just a cartoon" - "artistic licence" etc etc - yet wrong they have a HUGE platform (that few others have) to creat impression & successfully so for those who dont check facts

Give me proof - actual text - section# & context. Sweeping statements actually say nothing except what the person is pushing. Lack of proff usually indicates the person isflat out lying for their own agendas, i have learned

jenn


LilSquirt_4mfm 68M/69F
3394 posts
10/21/2006 9:00 am

senfun - thanks for stoppin by

true, we are bystanders mainly - altho public opinion as a whole does drive politics a lot - while maybe i dont say it, i am trying in several venues to inform, as public in general has only an agenda driven menu to feed public.

i also gave up on rligion, however a certain one created by a Conques driven guy seems to be getting into all our lives and i will "tell on him " as best i can, lol


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