Oh crap... I really screwed the pooch...  

ByteChaser2 54M
2834 posts
3/14/2006 5:48 pm

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Oh crap... I really screwed the pooch...

More reading... Damn, I hate it when the males natural consruction instincts are wrong.

So you know I have this koi pond. The chillins built it for the most part and did one hell of a job too. But... pop's may well have screwed the pooch on volume.

So the kids dug out a hole in the ground about two feet deep in a couple of spots. Average about 18 inches or so. Come to find out, according to some websites and people in the know... thats going to be way too shallow.

The pond should be at least 1000 gallons with deep pools at least three feet deep.

Oh sweet merciful crap! Guess I got some more digging to do...


KC_JJ 55M

3/14/2006 6:26 pm

Watch out for the native hawks and other birds of prey in your region (which is essentially my region so I know they are around) as they just love eating Koi. They seem to like the most expensive ones the best too.

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FeistySyn 53F

3/14/2006 7:00 pm

Damn, how many fish did you put in there? ... silly man, start digging!!! If I lived closer I would offer to come help, just so I could watch you sweat... hopefully shirtless

Apparently the depth of depravity here is bottomless... don't you feel right at home?
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rm_xxxtheline 54M

3/15/2006 2:16 am

I used to have a pond in Orange County and it was about 2' deep, 800 gals. Depth was not a problem. Cat's and possum seemed to be the biggest problem with prior shallower ponds. Steep sides seem to be better to discourage predators.

I had a friend with a pond in the sun (mine had partial shade) and his pond of similar size overheated in the summer. It could have used to be a lot bigger/deeper just to reduce temperature increases. That being said I had a claw foot tub for a pond in a condo for a few years. You'd think the exposed cast iron walls would have been the kiss of death but it worked great. Once again it only got partial sun.

Shallow ends for plantings always seemed to be a mistake. The fish love to play in them tearing up plants, disturbing soil, and making themselves play toys for cats. It's also amazing how a koi can move even the biggest rocks you use to hold the plants down. Let me know if you have a solution to this one.

I've seen a lot of ponds at fish stores that are only about two feet deep and a few thousand gallons that seem to be fine even with really large koi and full sun (and daily professional attention).

If you go deeper think about how your going to clean it. Anything out of arms reach may stay down there for a while. There always seems to be something down there you can't get with the net.

I have heard that if you live in a really rural area that water fowl can be a problem and that depth is a big advantage here.

On the lighter side if you want some cheap/silly entertainment get an oranda. People will tell you that they won't survive outdoors but their full of it. They get big (8-12"), beautiful, and look really funny trying to keep up with the koi.

Best of luck!


ByteChaser2 54M

3/15/2006 8:32 am

Get diggin Katey!


ByteChaser2 54M

3/15/2006 8:37 am

KC - Yep... and we got em too. Kestrals, redtailed hawks and a couple big owls. Fortunately, the koi are your basic, warehouse pet shop, inexpensive variety so a loss or two won't pinch too bad. The dog keeps the varmints away pretty well though so it should be good...


ByteChaser2 54M

3/15/2006 8:41 am

There's eight koi altogether. from 3 to 7 inches (mostly 3 or 4 inches).

I got plans to drain the pond and dig some deep pools brfore it gets much warmer around here. I figure I have a month...

Kinda wish you lived closer too syn. I can use all the gigling and sweaty chest staring I can get


ByteChaser2 54M

3/15/2006 8:46 am

theline - It's a good bit hotter out here than in OC during the summer. There's days that go 110* and I'm afraid this little thing will just evaporate away. It gets the hottest sun of the day - from about noon to 4 and even if I had shade tree's I doubt I could keep the water below 80...

I actually have a guy who says he can sink a concrete and tile pond for me in a week. Complete with all the filters, plumbing and water effects. I wonder if the checkbook can handle that...

Oh yeah... the girls went nuts over the pearlsides at the store. The were all diseased though and I didn't want to take that kind of a chance outdoors...


TabithaElectra79 39F

3/15/2006 2:47 pm

Quite a project you have there!


rm_sj365 56F
2414 posts
3/15/2006 8:43 pm

hobby...therapy...do it yourself sushi...keeps ya outta trouble


ByteChaser2 54M

3/16/2006 7:42 am

I'm tellin ya Tabitha! Glad I got a live-in work force


ByteChaser2 54M

3/16/2006 7:43 am

It does keep me off the streets and outta the strip clubs sj. I miss the strip clubs...


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