What's the difference...  

yagottalikit 49F
824 posts
7/22/2005 6:44 am

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What's the difference...


between envy and jealousy?

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rm_4nik8_4u 61M
2501 posts
7/22/2005 4:28 pm

envy is when you wish you had what someone else has.
jealousy is when someone wants what you have and you don't like it and want to protect it. Is that close? Do I get a kiss from the teacher now?


Nubiandream004 55M

7/22/2005 4:36 pm

For me, envy isn't necessarily a "bad" thing while jealousy is not a healthy emotion. For example, I can watch Lance Armstrong win the Tour De France and say "I wish I could do that." I'm being envious but it's positive. When a person is jealous they usually wish misfortune on a person.


cajunpet 70M
1185 posts
7/22/2005 4:52 pm

Envy is the painful or resentful awareness of an advantage enjoyed by another joined with a desire to possess the same advantage.

Jealous: intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness b : disposed to suspect rivalry or unfaithfulness. Hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage.


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AltumHunksUnite 53M

7/22/2005 5:23 pm

I always considered jealousy a more intense, perhaps violent emotion. That's the biggest difference as far as I'm concerned.

Let me drive. I like the view


tierratexas 52M

7/22/2005 5:33 pm

Envy is the desire to acquire another person's possession or experience as one's own or to deny that person that possession or experience. Jealousy has similar connotations of possession/experience but is usually used in the context of human relationships, which can drag certain other human emotions into the mix that feelings of envy do not. I think that envy and jealousy are both negative emotions. A "positive envy" would actually be a feeling of admiration or an inspiration to achieve a similar goal or experience through one's own just actions.


TopFisher 63M

7/24/2005 9:14 pm

Just to clarify, we are not talking about "Penis Envy" here are we?


yagottalikit 49F
583 posts
7/25/2005 10:22 am

lmao! Fisher....leave it to you!!!! I was rather intrigued by the slightly different interpretations from those of you who responded.

Ahhhhhh...Nik...I am soooo hoping I am "teacher"!!!! and yes, yes, yes, if so! Although, I must say I'm puzzled by your jealousy definition. I think I sort of follow you....but, not sure.

Yagotta get it soft and wet so we can kick/stick it


yagottalikit 49F
583 posts
7/25/2005 10:25 am

Nubian my dream....I agree that envy isn't so bad....as jealousy is, for the most part! Envy can lead to bad feelings, though, I guess maybe envy leads to jealousy in some cases.....and wow! how about our boy Lance....he's just an amazing human specimen, I say! Congrats to him!!!! Makes us Texans proud!

Yagotta get it soft and wet so we can kick/stick it


yagottalikit 49F
583 posts
7/25/2005 10:28 am

My little Cajun Pet....is that an official definition? It reads like it is ....but I tend to disagree somewhat with the envy part....I guess I look at it a bit like Nubians example....or is that just admiring someone....rather than envy? hmmmm

Yagotta get it soft and wet so we can kick/stick it


yagottalikit 49F
583 posts
7/25/2005 10:31 am

Cleavis....seems a simple way to look at it...and probably logical, as well! Jealousy and the rearing head thing comes to mind....LOL and No Fisher still not talking penis envy! Envy is just harmless wishing that you had something or were more like someone........
.....perhaps.

Yagotta get it soft and wet so we can kick/stick it


yagottalikit 49F
583 posts
7/25/2005 10:39 am

Tierra, interesting view......I wouldn't say that envy would be so sinister...as to wish to deny someone something....I think you can be envious but, not mean harm or take away from what a person does have that is enviable....I envy people who are strong and successful in their careers and home life....I envy those who know what they want and go after it...I envy those who set goals and strive for them...even if they don't always reach them....these are things that I feel I lack....I don't want to take that away from anyone..just wish I could be like that! Wish I had it in me! I am envious of those and a few other situations...not viscious or bitter, at all. I guess it could be considered admiration...but....envy seems to fit.
I guess you pretty much said that, as well....huh? Sheesh pay attention! (slapping myself).

Yagotta get it soft and wet so we can kick/stick it


yagottalikit 49F
583 posts
7/25/2005 10:41 am

Thanks to all of you for responding.....Fisher, one more comment for you, dear. If it were penis envy I was referring to...what would the answer be? Just curious......not quite envious!

Yagotta get it soft and wet so we can kick/stick it


tierratexas 52M

7/25/2005 2:46 pm

Yagotta--

If I understand what you are saying, to use the current NY-Times-bestseller vernacular, you feel that you envy those that have a strongly "purpose-driven life". Maybe that is close to what you are feeling. Anyway, if I may be allowed to digress from the thread topic and delve into this further...

Sometimes I feel that I lack dreams. To me, dreams are the ephemeral part of goals, and goals are the concretized steps to realize a dream. Dreams can be a life-giving, motive force.

There are some things that I want to learn and do in the remainder of my life, and I think that I'll get around to them, but I sometimes feel that there is no soulful challenge because, even though something might take months or years, I know that I can achieve those things. It's doable--I know that I have strong capabilities--I can see a path through a series of goals--in a clinical way. There is a lack of passion, a passion that comes from the mystery and excitement of a dream, from believing that there is a path to realizing a dream without clearly seeing the way through the fog of a dream.

In my dreams, I cannot realize them through my own efforts, so I face an inherent contradiction. I cannot realize a dream unless I find someone (or in some cases, many others) that has/have the same dream(s). It's frustrating because, in the meantime, I have to take pathetic little baby steps towards lofty goals that require wings. When I allow myself to soar with a dream, I have some sick manic-depressive feeling of inspiration from the dream yet despair of never realizing the dream. One of my dreams is bittersweet because almost everyone is actually working against the realization of that dream.

My activities on this website are the baby steps towards finding the person that I "magic word". I "magic word" someone. She is there in a dream of mine. Simply finding her is not enough. I "magic word" her with every screaming red corpuscle of my body. If I could find her, she would bring a dreamlike enjoyment even to my mundane goals.

"I envy those who know what they want and go after it...I envy those who set goals and strive for them...even if they don't always reach them....these are things that I feel I lack...."

But do you dream, Yagotta?


rm_4nik8_4u 61M
2501 posts
7/25/2005 2:48 pm

yagottalikit, if you were my woman(dream) and I was the jealous type(not)and some guy was flirting with you and trying to pick you up I wouldn't like it and I would try to protect my "property" because of jealousy. It's kind of hard to explain when your not really the jealous type.


yagottalikit 49F
583 posts
7/25/2005 5:39 pm

hmmmm.....tierra, that's a LOT of big words!!!! (grins) but, I do dream, yes....I just lack the capability to follow through with many things...too easily distracted you might say.....and very short attention span.

mmmmm Nik - you tease me way to well!!!! I thought that was where you were going with it. Interesting angle I might add.....

Yagotta get it soft and wet so we can kick/stick it


yagottalikit 49F
583 posts
7/25/2005 6:01 pm

Keep going Nik....fool me! I believe every word you say at this point!

Yagotta get it soft and wet so we can kick/stick it


TopFisher 63M

7/26/2005 2:19 am

different yet similiar for sure. and yes YGLI, I always make an attempt to be a tad altered! That fish never seems to hit the EXACT same bait as my partner may be throwing, I always try to add an element that is different. Seems to matter somehow.

So withoug further adue, some fun to follow.

yagottalikeit ask yourself:

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Why do nice girls "fall victim to penis envy?"
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How does a girl respond to seeing a boy's genitals and assessing her lack of the same?

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YOU could comes to have a sense of inferiority
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YOU could come to realise you aren't the only one without a penis, and come to share with men their same sort of contempt for women (for "a sex which is the lesser in so important a respect")
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Yet I hope not this.......

Penis Envy

"I want you to decorate some dildoes."

"What?" If Chris hadn't captured my attention, she certainly had it now.

"I'm working on this exhibition for the Franklin Furnace. I'm going to call it 'The Lesbian Museum: Ten Thousand Years of Penis Envy.' Annie Sprinkle is going to be in it. It's going to be really great. I've bought 100 dildoes and I want you to decorate some."

So I take the train into the city and meet her at Zen Palate, the one up near the Paramount. It's busy so we end up sitting at the counter. Chris is as bubbly as ever. "Where are they?" She tilts her head and I look under her chair to see a white plastic carrier bag. It doesn't look out of the ordinary. I pick it up and take a peek.

And almost faint.

They weren't the elegant, suave kind of dildo that I had expected, but rather, large and reasonably anatomically correct, complete with testicles. There were four of them.

We had lunch and talked about this and that. I was to also do some graphic work for the show, letterhead, posters, invites. But I just kept thinking about those dildoes (no, not like that).

Lunch finishes, we kiss goodbye and I head back down to Penn Station with the carrier bag. I very quickly realize that the back is thin and cheap. The heads push outwards creating little round, nodding impressions near the top. I'm walking down Seventh and I'm carrying a thin, white plastic carrier bag with four dildoes.

The train ride was uneventful - 50 minutes later, I'm home, back in Princeton. I take "them" (who I later called "the boys") out of the bag and discover that they have the peculiar talent of being able to stand on their own, rather drunkenly, but standing nonetheless thanks to the testicles. So I put them in a corner and let them sit while I try to figure out what I'm going to do with them.

In the end, I come up with a plan but one that calls for castration. They don't look very nice when they lay down so I decide to take a kitchen knife and perform a little surgery. I'm sitting on the living room floor, watching TV. The front door is open.

There's a quick knock and our neighbour, Eric walks in. "Can we borrow..." He looks from my face down to my hands and forgets what he's saying. I look down to see what he sees. A large kitchen knife and a large, ugly dildo. He blushes and then all colour falls from his face. He quickly turns and heads out the door. "I'll send Diana over"...

Oh nik, If you refer to your lady as "your property",, sorry, second in line is a bitch! Most women of today, and I think especially this one, is not interested in your "ownership", of her. I'm pretty sure she already knows WHO owns her. Her desires, needs, wants and the time table for any of such to happen. (not being an ass to you either nik).


AmberSolaire 42M

7/26/2005 8:46 am

Envy is not in my vocab, jealousy is.


yagottalikit 49F
583 posts
7/26/2005 11:46 pm

Is this where the cosmetic gynocologist comes in????

really, Amber????? or are ya just funnin with me?

Yagotta get it soft and wet so we can kick/stick it


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