Man, There Are Some SICK People On Here!  

wistfuljester 64M
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9/2/2006 11:09 pm

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Man, There Are Some SICK People On Here!


Hey--I've pretty much adjusted to the fakes after credit cards and mail addresses; at least they have a logical, profit-motive, even if it annoys me.

I've even gotten used to the people who use fake info and pics on their profiles because they're too timid to believe that someone might value them for who they truly are.

I don't even mind the ones who are passionate to the point of rude argumentativeness--at least you can see where they're coming from, even if they make you want to smack them from time to time.

Hell, even the ones who are dimmer than a nightlight don't really bother me...lol.

But here's one I just don't get, and she scares the hell out of me, besides.

There's this overweight 46-year-old woman in Tennessee whom I banned from my group for being too insulting to one of my group members that had been there for 6 months longer than her paltry two weeks. I didn't do it until she refused to back down, although I admit I should probably have emailed her first.

Up until that happened, I flirted with her in the group just like I do with all of the women there, and she enjoyed it--heck, she even messaged me with her IM info unasked! In other words, SHE messaged me, first.

Anyway, after the banning, she got really pissy and started posting hate against me in a few places. If she'd have kept it to just the truth, I wouldn't really care all that much.

Instead, she developed this elaborate fantasy that I was somehow "stalking" her, and started posting that here and there on the site!

I even decided to let that go and not respond to it. Two weeks after I banned her, I sent her my first message apologizing for the way I had banned her. She didn't respond. I didn't say a word about the lies she had posted about me, just chalking them up to anger over being banned.

Two weeks later, I noticed she posted a statement in a group wherein she called me her "stalker!" In that post, she claimed I was "following" her around, just because I had viewed her blog a couple of times!

HUH??

I read tons of blog and group posts every day...so what?

Well, I made the mistake of sending a message to that unstable woman that basically said that I wish she would stop posting lies about me, and that I had seen the lies she posted in a blog about me that I decided not to respond to. Mind you, I didn't call her names or otherwise abusive--the proof in on both her and my blogs, if you don't believe me.

did she write back, saying "don't contact me anymore" ?

NO.

Instead, she posted an elaborately paranoid fantasy in a group that I had joined just before she did, alleging that I had pursued her with "unwanted advances" in my group (?!), and that I had "stalked" her by viewing her blog AND sending her two messages on here that were 15 days apart (as described above) !

WHAT THE HELL?

Geez, I was never the LEAST bit attracted to this woman, what with her ugly attitude; NOR did what I did even come close to "stalking" !

In that group post, she said I was "following" her--yet, I joined that group at least 24 hours before she did! I decided to just leave the group instead of bringing drama there by responding to her diatribe, although I did make some posts in my OWN blog in response to her lies.

Oddly enough, even though I did NOT name her, she jumped right into my blog and ratted on herself right away; meanwhile, she was telling anybody who would listen in HER blog that she was complaining about me to A F F, and they told her if I made any more contact with her they would ban me!!

To add insult to injury, she even created some fake profiles to post even more lies about me on her blog.

Well, everything was mostly quiet the last few weeks, until I posted a "redneck" joke letter in a group that we are both in. Up until that, I had successfully ignored her in that group, and I thought she was doing the same.

WRONG, BUCKO!

She spouted some politically correct crap about my post being offensive, to which I responded that I AM a redneck, and damned proud of it, and furthermore if she didn't like my posts, she should ignore them like I'd been doing to hers. I even left that group, just for the sake of peace for the other members.

Ah, but she just couldn't leave it at that. She came back spouting even more false crap that I was "following" her around!! Having finally had enough of her bull, I rejoined the group and responded with several points that outlined the truth, rather than her paranoid, sociopathic lies:

quote PxxxxxGxxxx4exe:
kind of hard to Jim, when you follow me around. I have you on ignore everywhere I can. This group had no interest for you until you found I was active in it after I had put you on ignore everywhere else. No lies Jim. All people have to do is look at your posting history here. They will find you became very active in June, right after our falling out. Prior to that, it has been approx 6 months since you'd written one line in this group. Kinda seems suspect doesnt it?


All right, apparently you DO want to have this out now. Here are the facts:

1. I had a long history in this group way before you ever came along, under the handle jimdadddy. I was admittedly way too emotional over my recent divorce back then, so some people were rightfully pissed off at me. So, I left in October of last year.

2. Six weeks later, I felt my emotions were much better, so I came back under this handle. I had no idea some cowards were going to impersonate me with SIX different fake profiles using variations of the jimdadddy spelling and my picture to harass Mer and many others. I got A F F to remove ALL SIX, because the impersonations were against the TOUs, and so blatantly obvious.

3. Meanwhile, on November 13, 2005, I started my own group OLDER MEN AND YOUNGER WOMEN. Over time, I managed to mend fences with a lot of folks--especially when they saw the truth of how I had been used by those fake profile cowards.

4. A few months ago, you joined my group. In fact, on May 27th, JW joined it, too. Because JW had joined my group, I decided to rejoin this one. Within a few short weeks, you managed to insult one of the members who had been in my group for over 6 months. When you refused to back down, I banned you. (By the way: don't try to claim no record of you in my group still exists--although it's true I deleted your insults, there are still 66 posts of yours in that group).

5. During this period, I was in a stupid little blog spat with another female A F F member. You went into her blog and posted outrageous lies about me, accusing me of "stalking" you without a shred of proof. I believe you also called me a "Tin God". I decided to let that go.

6. Early in July, I sent you an apology--admittedly, not for banning you so much as the way I handled it. I also wished you a blessed 4th of July. 15 days later, when I noticed you had posted against me in the interest group the lady I was spatting with was involved in, I sent you a message basically saying that you really shouldn't lie about me by calling me your "stalker" just because I had looked at your blog, and that you should be careful about associating with that group. I made no insults, threats or innuendos against or about you in that message.

7. The next thing I knew, you posted in The Advice Line Group a thinly-veiled attack against me; in it, you claimed that my two messages, which were 15 days apart, and my viewing of your blog constituted "stalking" you. You also claimed that I had approached you with "unwanted advances" in my group, when in truth all I did was harmlessly flirt with you like I did with all of the other female members--nor did you ever object. In fact, shortly after joining the group, you sent me a message giving me your IM address! I might also mention that you never responded to either of my two messages after you were banned by asking me to cease contact with you--instead, you embarked on your smear campaign.

8. Out of respect for the other members, I left The Advice Line Group without commenting on your post--although I have rejoined it since--even though I had gotten there before you (who was "following" who...lol? ). However I had finally had enough of your outrageous lies, so I posted The Catalog of Lies (With My Commentary In Blue) in my blog, and emailed you that I had done so. One reason for that is because you "threatened" to reveal my communications with you, and since I knew the truth, I DID IT FIRST.

9. You decided to post in your blog wistfuljester..I dont think you want to play with me. The parts you left out, which contained not only your outrageous lies, but which also was augmented by fake profiles posting even more lies. I wonder who was behind those fake profiles? I responded to some of it in my original blog post, and then added a new one in my blog called I SMELL LITIGATION IN THE AIR (Yes, The Lying Continues). I might mention that even though I didn't call you by name in my first blog post, you eagerly jumped into it to respond--all the while telling everyone that if I dared respond to you and your fake profiles directly, you would try to have my profile removed from this website.

10. Some things have happened since JULY, not JUNE, that you apparently do not know or have forgotten. First of all, HeartlessBitch, now Queenofbitches69 (the lady whose blog you posted in), have long ago gotten over our spat and are now good online friends. Secondly, up until now, you and I have coexisted in this group for several weeks. Third, after not looking at your blog for over 3 weeks, I decided to check your posts and was amazed to find that on August 11th you posted something about "I see you're still looking"--even though by then it had been over two weeks since I'd last looked at your blog! So, just who is obsessed with whom, here, hmm? I posted in my blog a couple of weeks ago about it, pointing out this fact, and also the facts that people can look at your individual blog posts without ever registering on you blog's visitors list, and also that even if someone visited your blog repeatedly on any given day, you wouldn't know it unless you sat there staring at it all day watching it pop back up to the top--the site only shows the visitor ONCE on any given calendar day. Apparently, you don't know that...lol.

NOW, LET'S GET A COUPLE OF THINGS STRAIGHT, ONCE AND FOR ALL:

I am not now, nor have I ever been, the LEAST bit attracted to you.

If I were truly "stalking" you and "following" you around, I would have sent a lot more messages, and I would have responded to your group and blog posts for the last 3 months. I haven't done any of those things, and you know it.

YOU are the one who is obsessed with ME, not the other way around--or at least, you are either seeking revenge for being rightfully banned from my group, or suffering from a delusion, or both.

HEY, YOU ASKED FOR THIS, NOT ME. I WAS CONTENT TO LET IT GO, BUT YOU JUST COULDN'T DO IT. ONCE AGAIN, YOU HAD TO FIRST INSULT ME, AND THEN POST LIES ABOUT ME--AND AS I TOLD YOU, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE YOUR LIES AND SLURS LYING DOWN ANYMORE.

Get psychiatric help, girl--you need it badly!


You all want to know what worries me? It's that I am clearly dealing with a sociopath, who is a pathological liar. At this time, I am extremely grateful that she doesn't have any other way to contact me besides this site!

If any of you guys in Tennessee or the surrounding area want to find out the handle of this sick person so you can avoid her, feel free to either e mail me or leave a note here, and I will e mail you with it. I don't want to post the whole thing here, because I don't want to be falsely accused of violating the TOUs (not that telling the TRUTH should be a violation of anything).


DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
9/2/2006 11:44 pm

Damn, Jester, you really bring out the devil in some women.

Evidently you bruised her ego and it never recovered.

Don't be afraid to namedrop in your blog, as I do this all the time.

It's not a violation of the TOU.

How the hell do you get yourself embroiled in these mini-dramas?

Last I heard you were telling me about finding that spacious green meadow of enlightenment.

What happened?

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 1:15 am:
Hey, weren't you paying attention? It all started with her joining Older And Younger For All. Having seen her previous posts in other groups, I had serious misgivings, but I let her stay, anyway.

The rest, as they say, is history.

Stop with mocking the green meadow--it still exists, even if I'm presently embroiled in quicksand...

Shelly_Marie 43F

9/3/2006 12:07 am

well then, she started it by responding to your joke the way she did, how can that mean that you are stalking her. If I was afraid of someone stalking me then I definitely wouldnt respond to anything they said, even if I did disagree or get offended by it.


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 1:17 am:
Well, Shelly, you and I have logical brains--SHE doesn't. Like I said, we had successfully ignored each other for several weeks, before she decided that my redneck son post was socially unacceptable.

Of course, she wasn't all that concerned about my offending hillbillies--rather, for some silly reason the woman has developed an obsession about me, complete with elaborate delusions.

Shelly_Marie 43F

9/3/2006 12:10 am

    Quoting DIVISION77:
    Damn, Jester, you really bring out the devil in some women.

    Evidently you bruised her ego and it never recovered.

    Don't be afraid to namedrop in your blog, as I do this all the time.

    It's not a violation of the TOU.

    How the hell do you get yourself embroiled in these mini-dramas?

    Last I heard you were telling me about finding that spacious green meadow of enlightenment.

    What happened?

    DIV
" Don't be afraid to namedrop in your blog, as I do this all the time. It's not a violation of the TOU."

Someone did it to me and I had AdultFriendFinder removed their posts though...they may not ban you for it the first time it happens, but after enough times they will.


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 1:19 am:
I'm being VERY careful; she already posted a few weeks ago that she is looking for a way to get me forcibly removed from this site.

Shelly_Marie 43F

9/3/2006 12:17 am

the person that I had to have posts removed, even went so far as to delete his profile, delete the group he was a mod of, and all of his blog posts, and then tried to say that I had him removed from the site, after he found that I had AdultFriendFinder remove the offensive blog posts that were linked to my picture/profile......just to lay me on a guilt trip. and AdultFriendFinder will not remove someones group, nor will they remove all of their blog posts if they remove your profile for abuse, I know this cause I know someone whose profile got removed from the site when he was arguing with someone in a chatroom. I cant believe the things some people do sometimes....


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 1:20 am:
You're absolutely right, Darlin'. I'm sorry you also have gone through this kind of bull.

Sexy ass pic, by the way...may I lick?

LOL

rm_KarmoHunny 54F
888 posts
9/3/2006 1:30 am

Hey Jester,

It seems like you've ran into your share of nutjobs. I hope you've saved correspondence from her. So if you need it to defend yourself, you'll have it. Hope you'll be able to avoid this person in the future.

Peace


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 2:32 am:
Honey, the complete, REAL correspondence is already on my blog--and hers, too!

There is no effective counter to a woman who lives completely in fantasy, however!

giasine 42F

9/3/2006 6:38 am

People like her give psychos everywhere a bad name.


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 6:17 pm:
the thing about psychos is that they are so damned earnest, they fool a lot of people.

TechSteve 49M

9/3/2006 7:40 am

I am coming to the conclusion there are a lot of people on this site with various mental illnesses and that is why we see some bizarre behavior on this site.

Some of them even admit it and that they are on various drugs.

Maybe some of them are undiagnosed or they are not taking their medicine.

I think this lady in your situation is taking advantage of the fact she is a woman on this site. She is milking it. I wrote about that a long time ago. A man on this site has a harder time defending himself even when he is right.

Steve


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 6:18 pm:
Steve, that's exactly what she's doing. I think it's starting to backfire in her face, because people can see she's obsessed with trying to prove that I made "advances" toward her that never happened. She also doesn't seem to be able to hold together her house of lies very well.

DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
9/3/2006 11:39 am

    Quoting Shelly_Marie:
    " Don't be afraid to namedrop in your blog, as I do this all the time. It's not a violation of the TOU."

    Someone did it to me and I had AdultFriendFinder removed their posts though...they may not ban you for it the first time it happens, but after enough times they will.
I repeat, it's not a violation of TOU.

Don't try to compare your situation to what I do.

I don't harass people or create fake profiles but I have always name-dropped in my blog and will continue to do so.

I am a paying member, and they will not ban me for naming people in my blog.

I'm sure people have complained, but not one of my posts has ever been touched, altered, deleted etc.

It's a matter of free speech...

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


Shelly_Marie 43F

9/3/2006 12:49 pm

Then we will agree to disagree then.....

(about the TOU and paying member)


Shelly_Marie 43F

9/3/2006 1:17 pm

div, also I didnt mean that you were harrassing and wasnt comparing you to what happened to me. I was talking in general about linking to peoples profiles/pictures etc. Not you personally.


rm_iwannatellu 45F
933 posts
9/3/2006 1:52 pm

    Quoting TechSteve:
    I am coming to the conclusion there are a lot of people on this site with various mental illnesses and that is why we see some bizarre behavior on this site.

    Some of them even admit it and that they are on various drugs.

    Maybe some of them are undiagnosed or they are not taking their medicine.

    I think this lady in your situation is taking advantage of the fact she is a woman on this site. She is milking it. I wrote about that a long time ago. A man on this site has a harder time defending himself even when he is right.

    Steve
I have to agree with this. Unfortunately, It goes against my ethics to name-drop.

Jester - it sounds like you have had an unfortunate run.

Here's hoping that you find more real friends in the future here.

Iwanna


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 6:19 pm:
Thanks, Iwanna. Fortunately, I DO have a lot of genuine friends on this site.

TechSteve 49M

9/3/2006 2:09 pm

    Quoting TechSteve:
    I am coming to the conclusion there are a lot of people on this site with various mental illnesses and that is why we see some bizarre behavior on this site.

    Some of them even admit it and that they are on various drugs.

    Maybe some of them are undiagnosed or they are not taking their medicine.

    I think this lady in your situation is taking advantage of the fact she is a woman on this site. She is milking it. I wrote about that a long time ago. A man on this site has a harder time defending himself even when he is right.

    Steve
When I wrote this, I had no idea one of these nutjobs showed up in your redneck blog post.

That guy has been nothing but a nuisance on this site, in my opinion. It is shameful that instead of encouraging that guy to get help, a few people, some I strongly suspect have problems themselves, enable him.

Steve


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 6:20 pm:
Oh, yeah, that guy is a real nutcase, all right!

Shelly_Marie 43F

9/3/2006 4:38 pm

Jim, ya know.....I check your blog out a couple of times a day sometimes, I hope that is not stalking you.

Sings... ♪ ♪ Every step you take.....every move you make.... ♫ ♫ lmao...


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 6:21 pm:
Not at all, Shelly--in fact I'm flattered that such a smart and sexy lady like you wants to read my blog!

007sexy40plus 51F  
7603 posts
9/3/2006 7:49 pm

    Quoting DIVISION77:
    Damn, Jester, you really bring out the devil in some women.

    Evidently you bruised her ego and it never recovered.

    Don't be afraid to namedrop in your blog, as I do this all the time.

    It's not a violation of the TOU.

    How the hell do you get yourself embroiled in these mini-dramas?

    Last I heard you were telling me about finding that spacious green meadow of enlightenment.

    What happened?

    DIV
To Div
I have to speak up against what you said. This site will ban you from your profile and they will deleted your blog for name dropping. How do I know? they sent me a letter warning me to stop giving names or I would be deleted and my blog as well. The reason you may not have had any problem is because no one has been reporting you over do it. I had a bunch of haters reporting me. So what shelly-marie is saying is true I don't think she is comparing anything about your writing. I am a paying silver member and they warned me about this when I was posting and namedropping non-paying members.

This is in no way a comment to invoke a fight but It is in the TOS rules about posting other members names. They told me if its a post about something fun thats one thing, but posting a bad apples name is a NO, NO. Even if they are trouble makers.

To Jester
Sorry Jester but I wanted to add my 2 cents on what I got straight from the horses mouth not hearsay.

And for the problem you are having Jester, the people who don't have a life are only trying to add something meaningful to it, because they know they can't be happy until they make others miserable.

I am the real deal! "Come Get Me!!!"


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 9:19 pm:
That's quite all right--and thanks.

Shelly_Marie 43F

9/3/2006 8:18 pm

You can hit the report abuse button a thousand times and it wont do anything 99% of the time, if someone has reported it then that is all they probably did. And most times when you email CS they dont quite get what you are talking about either. You have to be very specific when emailing them. No, I didnt mean anything against him or what he has posted, actually some or most of what he has posted in the past when he has named people I have actually agreed with. Was just saying about namedropping in general.


rm_wetfingeraz 53F
3012 posts
9/3/2006 8:53 pm

"There's this overweight 46-year-old woman"

May I ask, what is the significance of her body type to the point that you are trying to make? Does her "overweight" contribute to her mental instability? Are all "overweight" women unattractive in your eyes? Is she even more pathetic because she is "overweight" and "46-year(s)-old"? Wouldn't your point have just as easily been made by saying, "There's a female blogger..."

Just some curiosity from an "overweight 43-year-old woman" from Arizona.

And, really, the best way to handle this sort of thing is to just ignore it completely. Don't read her blogs, don't respond to her comments in groups, don't address it in your own blog. I get that you're frustrated by it, and you have every reason to be, but the more you address it, the more you feed it energy, the more it seems like you're letting it get to you. Just erase it and move on.


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 9:17 pm:
I agree with you about the overweight part. Heck, I'm 50 pounds overweight, myself. Thank you for pointing that out.

You're also right, I should just let it go. In fact, I finally feel like I can, because I got to answer he lies directly in a public forum. I feel much better now!

QueenofBitches69 46F

9/3/2006 8:59 pm

WooooHooooo What a convo. you have going here Jim!


QueenofBitches69 46F

9/3/2006 9:03 pm

OOOHHHHHH and I forgot to tell you, I have to post-pone my trip to come out to Az. And see you, Cause the Doc. thinks my meds aren't workin and Wants to do some out patient Electric shock Therapy.

Gosh, I am such a Smart ASS!


wistfuljester replies on 9/3/2006 9:18 pm:
Yes, you are, but that's one of the things I really like about you...lol.

DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
9/4/2006 3:35 am

    Quoting 007sexy40plus:
    To Div
    I have to speak up against what you said. This site will ban you from your profile and they will deleted your blog for name dropping. How do I know? they sent me a letter warning me to stop giving names or I would be deleted and my blog as well. The reason you may not have had any problem is because no one has been reporting you over do it. I had a bunch of haters reporting me. So what shelly-marie is saying is true I don't think she is comparing anything about your writing. I am a paying silver member and they warned me about this when I was posting and namedropping non-paying members.

    This is in no way a comment to invoke a fight but It is in the TOS rules about posting other members names. They told me if its a post about something fun thats one thing, but posting a bad apples name is a NO, NO. Even if they are trouble makers.

    To Jester
    Sorry Jester but I wanted to add my 2 cents on what I got straight from the horses mouth not hearsay.

    And for the problem you are having Jester, the people who don't have a life are only trying to add something meaningful to it, because they know they can't be happy until they make others miserable.
I find this very hard to believe.

Check out my blog and you'll see all types of posts where I drop names.

If people are reporting me, it surely hasn't had any detrimental effect.

Time will tell I suppose, but I'm not going to censor my posts because a few kids get their feathers ruffled.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


DecorPlumyBosun 39M

9/4/2006 8:29 pm

Sounds like a crankhead to me. How can a redneck joke be offensive on a website full of stiff dicks?


wistfuljester replies on 9/4/2006 9:01 pm:
Excellent question! Go to the head of the class!

rm_wetfingeraz 53F
3012 posts
9/4/2006 11:19 pm

Thank you for that acknowledgement. You are a true gentleman.

Now, if I could only learn to take my own advise...


wistfuljester replies on 9/4/2006 11:50 pm:
You're welcome, dear lady!

*courtly bow*

DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
9/7/2006 11:03 am

    Quoting CirqueDuSoleil76:
    It is NOT hard to believe. Some people on AdultFriendFinder believe that others are worthy of their attention and go to the distance of dialing the AdultFriendFinder 800 complaint number.

    Fact is, DIV. you may piss people off but apparently you aren't worth reporting.
All of two posts and you expect me to believe you're a real profile?

Sure.

If you can't post under your real handle, then why even bother?

As I said, I'm sure I've been reported, but it hasn't changed anything.

I kind of welcome it, actually, if AdultFriendFinder wants to ban me for namedropping then this is not the type of place I'd want to be.

Free speech is free speech.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
9/7/2006 6:32 pm

    Quoting CirqueDuSoleil76:
    I 'expect' nothing from you because you are nothing to me.

    This is my REAL handle.

    I will reinforce my prior comment. Disgruntled bloggers don't deem you worthy of them making the effort to pick up the phone and making the call.

    Deal with it.
Three posts now, profile turned off.

There's a chance you could be real, but I sincerely doubt it.

Either way, I don't think a 1-800 number has anything to do with it.

Believe what you will, though.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


wistfuljester 64M

9/7/2006 9:04 pm

HEY, LOOK! WHY DON'T YOU TWO GO TAKE YOUR ARGUMENT TO YOUR OWN BLOGS??


wistfuljester 64M

9/7/2006 11:46 pm

I REPEAT! THE TWO OF YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR RIDICULOUS FEUD SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN MY BLOG. THIS IS NOT THE A F F MAGAZINE. THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING.


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