Take Me Out To The Ball Game!!!!!!!!!  

travelingintexas 41M
4/12/2006 11:07 pm
Take Me Out To The Ball Game!!!!!!!!!

Ah yes… I love being an American don’t you? Winners not whiners… All that good stuff. Of course there are numerous people here that drive their big cars, drink their soy milk Starbucks, buy their porn on DVD’s and dress their dogs up in tutu’s, but just can’t wait to bitch about how much they hate this country. But that’s ok. This blog isn’t for them and I am not about to get all worried that they are anywhere near the mainstream of our society.

Oh I know, some of you are already thinking while the hot air steams, can’t we all get along, there are no winners today or everyone is a winner Trav! Ya know where I am going with this, right? Sure ya do! It started in the Loving 60’s, a generation of reverse psychology, rebel against societal norm, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em, hug a tree, beat a drum, “surely our parents don’t know anything so we will redefine it for their dumb asses” mindset that set the course for the next 45 years. Still not sure where I am going yet? Work with me here people; it doesn’t get any easier than the picture I am painting!

Still wondering? Fine… I am talking about Soccer.

Not just any old soccer. I am talking 6 year old soccer where there are no points kept. What a load of hog wash. Now, I am not just picking on soccer because I know this is happening in many different sports, but it certainly took place at this particular soccer game. My kid runs down the field. Hot, sweating, and determined to score. (Not unlike his Father.) He narrows his eyes… he shoots….. SCORRRRRRRRREEEEEE!!!!!!!

Wait, never mind, he didn’t score after all. He just kicked the ball into the net. In a normal world, he would have scored. However, in a politically correct, backassward world, he just kicked the ball in the net. To top it all off, the referee turns around and does a cheer for the team that didn’t score to help their self esteem a little. OK. Not really. But they might as well have. Why?

Because they freaking don’t keep score.

Why not? My son kept score! He knew how many goals he scored. Why not? Every single parent there knew how many points their kid scored and they added it up with my kids score and then deducted the losing teams score from ours to determine that we won. And I know damn well, when everyone got done hugging the other team, they loaded in their minivans and the first thing our teams dads said was “we sure kicked their asses! Good job son/daughter!” And ya know what, son/daughter just beamed and felt pride and said, “guess what Dad, I scored 3 points!”

What? Would it hurt so bad to tell a kid they won? Or worse, would it hurt so bad to tell a kid of a gentle nature they lost? Nope. Toughen up. That’s not for the kids, that’s for the damn parents. Your kids aren’t weak, you are. It is shameful. As you may or may not know, I keep my eye on the current trends in education. I have to in order to be relevant careerwise and one of the things that chaps my hide is watching my ex and other family members that are teachers being told to correct work in purple pen not red. Why? Because red pens could hurt the wittle wons feewings. Mental bullshit is all it is. People, this is the reason so many in our society are weak. Afraid to compete, afraid to lose, they set their own little worlds in such a way that harbors them from the crushing blows to their fragile self esteem. They never try, they never fail. But most importantly, they never ever succeed. They get by.

In my way of thinking, we are a land of winners. Not whiney ass pussies that cry for their mamma when they get pushed down in the dirt. Or worse yet, fear to even go to the metaphorical playground for fear of being pushed down. This is a land of hero worship. When is the last time you heard anyone praise a quitter? When is the last time you bought a t-shirt with the name of a loser on it? Chanted “We’re number 9!” lately? Naw, didn’t think so.

FFS, this is the land of opportunity, apple pie, Lou Gehrig and Babe Ruth, Kerri Scruggs and Carl Lewis, Muhammad Ali and George Foreman, Patton and MacArthur and a whole slew of others. Anyone remember the name of the third guy George Foreman knocked out? Naw, didn’t think so! If ya did you googled it and didn’t know it in the first place. If he tried to sell you a grill you would be like “who is this sucker?”

Some of you are grumbling. Some of you don’t believe me. To you I say "HAAAAAAAAAAAA. I’ll prove it."

When you called in last night to vote for your favorite American Idol, did you vote for the worst person there? Didn’t think so and neither did 46 million other Americans. We love winners.

So what is my contrasting viewpoint to 6 year old soccer? If ya wanna see how winners win and losers lose and keep it in the American spirit of greatness, then may I introduce you to…

Midget League Baseball

qship52 63M

4/12/2006 11:59 pm

Maybe you should try taking your kid to a martial arts program. It seemed like the one place left where my girls a) actually had to perform - in front of an audience, and b) were judged on the quality of their work.

In tournaments, there is a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, although 'everyone else gets a 4th place medal for participating (as kids)'. I saw them cry when they did not win. I also saw them have real pride in their accomplishments when they did win. I saw them exhibit true bravery when they new they had to spar a fearsome opponent.

In testings, at certain ranks, you have to break boards to pass. Kids do the same breaks as adults, except the boards are smaller. Pretty black and white.

When you pass, you feel like you earned something. I watched my kids grow in that program. They *got* something from it - but in a sense, they just got back what they put into it. They knew what they had to do, and so they did it.

You lower the standards, you lower the achievements. You have to have the possibility of failure to have the possibility of true success.

We don't ask enough of our kids.

travelingintexas replies on 4/13/2006 6:15 am:
Hey Buddy~~

I should have emailed you and just asked you to guest write for me today. Of course, I used it as an opportunity to call sissies sissy but you actually made sense where I was just grandstanding. Kidding LOL

Actually some fantastic points. See I can get behind a medal for 4th place, hell even olympic atheletes probably get a goodie bag for showing up. I am perfectly ok with that. I think it all comes down to one of your last points. "You lower the standards you lower the achievements" and that is across the board, regardless of that activity.

Great response.

Nightguy_1961 55M
4866 posts
4/13/2006 12:02 am


When my son was about 5, I helped coach his Y soccer team...and I saw the same thing: the 'officials' didn't keep score.

But by God, the kids did!!! Every timeout, they would ask me or one of the other coaches, "Who's winning? What's the score? Who's ahead?"

We love to compete; to see who's better, who's stronger, who's faster. It's part of our human nature; to compete.

Why do men worry about how we appear to the opposite sex? Why do women worry about the same? We are always measuring ourselves to others; we can't help it!!

Now when it gets to the point where some can't function at all, then we have a problem. Competition then becomes an obsession, not a healthy pastime.

Closing thought: "Winning isn't every thing...it's the ONLY thing!"...thanks Coach Lombardi!!


travelingintexas replies on 4/13/2006 6:21 am:

HAHA... Must have been late, I forgot me some Lombardi.... I too agree that competition can go the complete opposite direction ie when I coached pee wee football, (8-10) year old boys in full contact, I had dads that would come down from the stands and yell in the faces of their children and we have all read about the craziness in Youth Baseball programs at times.

However, when the entire win-loss ratio is taking out, there is nothing to measure yourself by, or your growth. My middle son isnt the best athelte. He is my brains. In fact, I told him last night because he got a "B" (jokingly of course) that he had to do much better since he was my only hope at a straight A kid. LOL I am ok with that.

But even though he can't hit the ball right now to save his life, ya know what, his team kicks ass. He is ok with being the youngest player and riding the bench, ya know why? Because he is on a winning team and he loves it. And that is good enough for me if he is happy.

Great thoughts as always Night.

womanoirish 53F

4/13/2006 12:03 am

So when you gonna run for President, babydoll? grin

travelingintexas replies on 4/13/2006 6:31 am:
Hey gorgeous! I am not so sure another Texan would be welcomed right now LOL I'll lay low for a bit....

safereturns 47F

4/13/2006 12:13 am

Please, please tell us you're kidding about the purple pen.

Teachers use red because that's the darn rule! They're SUPPOSED to.

My world perches precariously enough--don't shake up the few absolutes.

travelingintexas replies on 4/13/2006 6:32 am:

Sorry bud.... I hate it but it is fact. I know, I bought purple pens for christmas lol I even heard Carlos Mencina rant on it a few days ago in Cali. So I know its taking place over there. Its a damn shame really....

Isn't purple the color of royalty anyway? LMAO

rm_1hotwahine 62F
21091 posts
4/13/2006 12:55 am

OK, fine, I'm with on probably more of this than you would imagine. However ONE POINT truly irks me --

Have you ever even TRIED soy milk in your coffee? First of all, you're talking about STARBUCKS coffee. Starbucks??? ffs, that's not coffee; that's a, a Starbucks Beverage.

Drink a glass of it? No way. Pour it over my cereal? huh uh
But in my coffee - YES! It's GOOD, dammit.

OK then...

Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]

travelingintexas replies on 4/13/2006 6:35 am:
1hot my dawling....

You ever notice, that regardless of how we go around and around on issues, it always comes back to the damn soymilk. And only I can call it soymilk on my blog, because as we all know, soy is not milk. It cannot be milked from any living animal.


timeforfun219 41M/42F  
2155 posts
4/13/2006 9:46 am

You should see midget Hockey.. now that is a game where there is a winner and a loser. And they beat each other up just like the big boys do. If they don't teach them how to win now, how good are they going ot play as adults?

If my boobs were bigger I'd be a BBW!

want2play926 45F

4/13/2006 10:31 am

Have you been reading my mind again? Damn Trav....

I can not agree more! I have 2 kids and I have started teaching the the hard knocks of life from day one. When I found out that I was going to have my first child, I SWORE to myself that I would NOT raise a person to become a 'boo hoo feel sorry for myself' type. OH HELL NO!

My kids get tons of love, attention, etc. But they also know at the young ages of 5 and 7 now, that NOTHING gets handed to them. Either they earn it, work for it, or they don't get it. That is all there is to it. They have yet to start a team sport due to not keeping score. THEY think it is stupid. THEY do not want to play if there is not a winner or a loser. That is how life is.

When young people go out into the work force, they think they can do half ass work and still get paid in full. They want top dollar fresh out of college and not pay their dues. What ever happened to work hard and sweat to feel like a 'real' man / woman? I hope those days are not gone...that maybe our generation can bring it back to the way things SHOULD be.

WOW....bottom line...you want something, work for it, stop looking for hand outs! This touchy feely shuff is shit!

micahbiguns 50M

4/13/2006 10:42 am

AMEN Preach it brother Trav he he I used purple

southrnpeach333 50F

4/13/2006 10:47 am

My family is extremely competitive. It is who we are. We also don't cut our kids any slack. But when we give them a compliment they damn well know we mean it. That they have done it right and deserve the praise. I also know that when they chips are down and it really counts my boys will be ready.

TTigerAtty 62M

4/13/2006 11:18 am

I couldn't agree with you more! Winners don't whine, and whiners don't win! This feminization of America has gone too far! That's the reason we've got boys playin' soccer with girls in the first damn place! Let the boys play baseball, football and basketball. And let the girls play soccer, tennis and volleyball! That, my friend, is the true order of the universe! That is how God intended things to be!

If you're gonna play the game, whatever it is, for pete's sake, keep score! We have to compete as adults in the real world, and they keep score on everything in the real world! As international competition becomes more intense, our boys need to be toughened up for what is ahead of them rather than be coddled and feminized! (This last statement may piss off some of our lovely ladies on this site, but deep in their hearts they know what I'm saying is true!)

I'm tired of hearin' about Barry Bonds too! The Babe and Mickey drank a little liquor to kill the pain from their injuries, so they could play everyday. The Yankees were winners! If Barry Bonds wants to take the chance of hurting his body with a cocktail of drugs, I don't care. Hell! Babe and Mickey drank a little bit, so are their records going to be questioned and potentially invalidated by the MADD crowd, because we don't want to send the wrong message to our kids? We don't want our kids to smoke, so are we going to question and discount the achievements of our athletes from the 30's thru 60's who did smoke before we completely understood the health dangers?

I'm tired of various politically correct groups of people always telling other groups of people how to live their lives! Group think instead of fierce independence and inviduality! Political correctness vs. getting the job done and winning!

Teach your boy to be a man, Trav! The school system and our society will not!

Here endeth my rant! Sorry. Wait a minute. No, I'm not fucking sorry!

aascrompn 42M
6444 posts
4/13/2006 11:27 am

You gotta go and call me a freakin midget again... FFS! I'm not that damn small.

rm_sexxielynn 52F
72 posts
4/13/2006 12:02 pm

All the points I was going to make were made by faster posters!
Suffice it to say I AGREE - Life is tough, might as well figure out how to survive early!

rm_cru1972 44M
4407 posts
4/13/2006 12:32 pm

You are CORRECT sir! And it's not right. When I was a young'un, we had to TRY OUT for the sports teams we wanted to be on. If we didn't make the team TOO BAD see ya next year. Well if we really wanted to be on that team, we WORKED hard for the next tryouts. Sure it hurt our feelings, sure we felt like failures, but ya know what, IT MADE US WORK FOR WHAT WE WANTED!

I tried for two years before I made the football team the first time, and when I finally made it, nothing could get me down, not even sitting on the bench all season except for like 10 plays. But I MADE the team. Some other teams weren't that hard to get on because I was goodat it golf, track, archery, and chess but still I was proud because I made them out of my hard work.

Around here there are NO tryouts, you are on the team, so far we still keep score, but I'm not sure for how much longer.

Sorry but you got me goin about something I bring up at quite a few school board meetings

rm_1hotwahine 62F
21091 posts
4/13/2006 1:26 pm

You didn't answer my question. Have you ever TRIED soy milk in coffee? Dammit, man, I'm starting to feel like Sam-I-Am from Green Eggs and Ham.

Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]

mm0206 68F
7767 posts
4/13/2006 5:43 pm

You know......
I already said you should be President ..yes of the United States.
You are wasting your talents...ok I will shut the fxxx up.
I agree that kids should be allowed to understand the value of losing, And in the struggle to do their very best to win.
everyone should be allowed some playing time. But to win, the A team, the first string has to stay in the majority of the game.

A parent's trip is a long hard road.You cant ever stop supporting them but you have to be honest and show them the facts of life.... by teaching compassion in winning, in this case the way to winning is everyone on the team doing their very best for the team and not grandstanding.


n0tatalker 39M

4/13/2006 6:21 pm

You're right, losing will make you toughen up. Siddhartha beleived that life is suffering, and suffering is losing. Well I'm not going as far as the buddha. But, if Texas is started to turn into politically correct pussyville... we're in trouble.

benibluetwo 47F

4/13/2006 7:26 pm

I grew up showing registered Quarter horses. I guess I was very good at it. I have a boat load of trophies and tons of ribbons, High Point awards...etc.

I enjoyed what I did and my father always tells two stories about those days (well three):

1. The first time I won a fourth place ribbon I was happy because it was yellow like my horse.

2. As I got older and better, people would apparently phone and see if my cousin and/or I were entered in the show and cancel OR show up and see us and leave. I saw it happen a couple of times but really.....they were mean, sour-faced jerks that wouldn't joke with me so who cared.

And the gratuitous sex one:

3. My father once told someone right in front of me that I was an excellent rider..."nothing moves...except...." and they both looked at my chest.....DAMN these 40FF's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think my point is...I enjoyed winning...I am proud of it...but it is not my greatest accomplishment. My parents never let it go to my head and I never became a prima donna (ok....I did, but that was AFTER college and this was before).

I know how to work hard AND play hard. I have a balance that I think can only come from being encouraged to win but never forced to.

I agree that purple is wrong...keep the red pen...keep score...hand out trophies....but NEVER, EVER call names. I think that is such a loser thing to do...LMAO

OH YEAH!!!! And how long ago was it that they stopped saying "And the winner is...." at awards shows? Hell if celebrities have fragile egos and can't take it then how are the rest of us ever going to make it thru life? *sob*

Gawd....can't they just go buy an ego? I want a WINNER.




EyeCandy33333 44F
761 posts
4/13/2006 7:58 pm

Emmmm I am liking this enthusiasm-oh no no no-I've seen the A team be in the majority of the game and we lost terribly-then when everyone was fairly put in-we won-when they're young-play them all-fairly-win together-lose together-whichever way it goes-you win that way. If you dishearten one kid that has as much potential as any other on the team by sitting him or her out because you think you win that way-you have already lost.What if they had benched the Babe because he struck out so much when he was a kid!
Let all the kids play-it's a game and it's fun damnit!!!(lol)
I had a kid-the coach said-he was too quiet-so-I took him off his ADD med-then-he was climbing the cage-however-the coach was very good at promoting his own son and the other coach's son as catcher and pitcher-now I wasn't jealous-just by the rules-my son was supposed to have been put in the game and he wasn't--we lost-wasn't my son's fault-he was climbing the cage!

rm_kelli4u2dew 41F
5220 posts
4/13/2006 8:15 pm

The comment about karate ... agree 100%. As to keeping score, without that, how would we know how bad all those Texas teams are?

I was going through resumes today. I have no idea how some of these people graduated college. I hope the boost to their self esteem when they were young will help them feel good about themselves now that they're unemployable.

bozoboy69 48M

4/13/2006 8:25 pm

You are so correct about this!!! I just got back from coaching my youngest son's baseball (8 and 9 year olds). I coached my older son when he was in that age and younger. I used to tell them before games that "I know that we're not supposed to keep score, but let's go beat the pants off of them!" All the kids LOVED it (and I think some of the parents did to). I did stress sportsmanship and playing hard but...


Satyr48 67M
1773 posts
4/14/2006 6:31 am

What the Liberals, who are trying to remake this country into a big 60's commune, don't understand is...


The same Libs who don't want to keep score in soccer, want to eliminate dodgeball, and want outcome-based education to promote everyone regardless of learning, LIKE everyone dumbed-down and spineless so they are easier to brainwash and control.
Just like Mother Russia.

Then, when the real world jumps up and smacks them in the face, they have no clue how to respond.

Pleasing women in unbelievable ways for 45 years...
You could be next...

EyeCandy33333 44F
761 posts
4/14/2006 9:01 am

Well the game is much more fun if we keep score I think and just play the damn game-grip it and rip it!!!It's supposed to be fun-I played sandlot with the boys-we kept score-AND WE HAD FUN!!!

LustyTaurus 48M  
21253 posts
4/15/2006 7:40 am

I agree with you %100 on this.

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rm_texringer 64F

4/15/2006 1:59 pm

I'm one of those teacher folks, and I have to agree. No one's told me not to use red pen, but we're oh-so-concerned about their precious self-esteem. I teach 7th grade history, and I frequently tell my students most of them suffer from high self-esteem. They think they need a 100 because they turned in some slop for an assignment. Or a party every Friday because no one's been kicked out of class for their behavior.

This is why the place where my future daughter-in-law works (a make-your-own-teddy-bear joint) can't find people to work. Oh, young people apply and get hired, but they find it unreasonable that the boss expects them to show up, every time they're scheduled, on time yet. About 80-90 percent quit or get fired within two weeks. This country worries me.


helga_hansen 49F  
1987 posts
4/15/2006 2:04 pm

Hedge you... Miss Freckles here! Long time, no speak, yada, yada, yada ....

Anyway.. just wanted to tell you that here junior schools were also turning our kids into "we're all winners here" people. That was, until we won the hosting of the Olympic Games 2012 in London. Now suddenly, money is being pumped into sports in this country, and we've got six years to turn our little "team players" into individual WINNERS!!!

Suddenly, the gloves are off, and it's each to their own. Yay. Go, kids, go. And then once it's all over, I think "PC"dom will strike again, and we'll all be back to "everybody's a winner"...


Love, hugs and kisses from ♥♥HH♥♥

EyeCandy33333 44F
761 posts
4/17/2006 11:07 pm

Well I still say-if you keep score playing sandlot-and you are having fun-everyone is-what is the big deal-keep the score.Now when I started out playing with the boyz-mind you-I was catching fly balls in the eye-yes-and I would run home and say -I aint never gonna play again-and I would go right back out there. One of the boyus taught me how to catch the ball-see I was about 5 when I was playing-and I could hit. So once I could catch-they made me pitch lol-now that was another learning experience.
Then they taught me football-lol!

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