inconvenient truths  

sparkee58 58M
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7/27/2006 2:46 am

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inconvenient truths


I read the Al Gore book "An Inconvenient Truth" and then saw the movie of the same name. He states there is a ten year window to turn the planet around before the damage is irreversible. If the Greenland ice sheet melts, the oceans will rise twenty feet. It has already become pitted like the ice shelf that broke away from Antarctica not too long ago. Living two miles from the beach, I will be underwater.(Maybe if only half melts, I'll be beachfront).
There are a lot of psuedoscientists on corporate payrolls that have been for years trying to muddy the waters, so to speak. It's the same tactic the tobacco companies uses successfully to lure young smokers in.
Anyway, I read the following article in the August, 2006 National Geograpic by Bill McKibben. It is chilling.

Here are the first three paragraphs.

"A Deeper Shade of Green"

"This is the year when we finally started to understand what we are in for. Exactly 12 months ago, an MIT professor named Kerry Emanual published a paper in Nature showing that hurricanes had slowly but steadily been gathering in strength and duration for a generation. It didn't attract widespread attention for a few weeks- not until Katrina roared across the Gulf of Mexico and rendered half a million people refugees. The scenario kept repeating: Rita choking highways with fleeing Texans; Wilma setting an Atlantic Ocean record for barometric lows; Zeta spinning on New Year's day. Meanwhile, other data kept pouring in from around the planet: Arctic sea ice melting past an irrevocable tipping point; thawing permafrost in northeastern Siberia creating so much methane that lakes didn't freeze even in the depths of boreal winter; the NASA calculation that 2005 had been the warmest year on record.

"In January, a trinity of announcements sealed the mood. First, British scientist James Lovelock, who invented the instrument that allowed us to detect our eroding ozone layer, published an essay predicting we'd already added too much CO2 to the atmosphere and that runaway global warming was inevitable. He predicted that billions will die this century. A few days later came a less dramatic but equally alarming announcement. The steady and long serving NASA climatologist James Hansen defied federal attempts to gag him and told reporters that new calculations about, among other things, the instability of Greenland's ice shelf showed "we can't let it go on another ten years like this." If we did? Over time, the buidup of CO2 emissions would "imply changes that constitute practically a different planet." Less than ten years to reverse course. Not our kid's lifetimes, or our grandkid's. Ours.

"Finally, at month's end, even President Bush, as faithful a friend as the fossil fuel industry has ever had, announced America was "addicted to oil." Historians, I think, will look back on this as the time when denial finally began to crumble. When we finally began to understand that the planet as we've known it was at stake- and not from a possible scenario, like nuclear war, but from the consumption of the coal and oil and gas that power most of the actions of our lives. This is new. Humans have never faced a civilization- scale challenge before. Whether we deal with it gracefully or not depends, I believe, on what happens to that creed we call environmentalism."

papyrina 51F
21133 posts
7/27/2006 4:06 am

hubby won't believe me of waters rising and i keep telling him to sell our beach front property while the world is still asleep


I'm a

and
i'm here to stay


sparkee58 replies on 7/27/2006 4:30 am:
i don't look for us to change the world anytime soon
the world will soon change us

marnison 79F

7/27/2006 7:27 am

....ahem


sparkee58 replies on 7/27/2006 3:34 pm:
meha...

rm_1SweetBitch 55F
8575 posts
7/27/2006 9:04 am

Very spookie stuff there...I am glad I live way way west. Papy has the right idea there...sell...sell...sell.

No Day Is So Bad It Can't Be Fixed With Great Sex!

1 SweetBitch


sparkee58 replies on 7/27/2006 3:35 pm:
but are you 20 foot above sea level?

rm_1hotwahine 63F
21091 posts
7/27/2006 10:01 am

I don't have it in easily accessible brain cells, but it seems that I've read some really contradictory stuff about the ozone layer and whether or not the CO2 emissions (and the old fluorocarbs) played a significant role in it. At the time, it didn't seem like spin, but I could be wrong. Anyway, that's just a little piece of what you're writing about, but thought I'd toss it in.

I'd like to see or read AIT. I have great respect for Gore's two cents' worth (NAFTA notwithstanding). Especially in regards to looking at circumstances and what the long term effect might be (remember his 'information highway' pulpit? Yep, it's happening)

Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]


sparkee58 replies on 7/27/2006 3:37 pm:
he's running hard for the presidency
don't think he won't be the person to beat
he is on fire

catseyes23 61F

7/27/2006 11:07 am

You never fail to amaze me, Spark.


sparkee58 replies on 7/27/2006 3:38 pm:
and you, me

canyaz 48F
17087 posts
7/27/2006 11:32 am

Thank you for your PSA! I am on a Board for Habitat For Humanity. I am always fighting with them for "Green" builds. More people need to look at how they can make small changes to help the environment. We are a lazy country though and getting folks to change will not be easy. BTW How "green" are you?
P.S: I enjoy what you bring to Blogville. I have a bet going with another person in Blogville as to what your profession is/was....
Care to share that info? You can e-mail it if you would like.

There is a difference between a good BJ and a bad BJ.
canyaz


sparkee58 replies on 7/27/2006 3:39 pm:
not nearly as green as i would like to be
i am thinking about solar photovoltaics for my house
and offering it in my electrical contracting business in FL
there are some nice tax breaks available

canyaz 48F
17087 posts
7/28/2006 4:54 am

Hey Sparkee, thanks. I just lost lunch bet but its ok. I have the Panels on my house LOVE them! They look like roofing. The city threw a fit when we put them on because they own the power company. They won't let us net meter. I have been trying to get the city to put the panels on all municipal buildings. Too much of the red-neck good old boy thing here. I am the "Hippie Freak" in my community. KInd of funny since I am as "Preppy" as they come.

There is a difference between a good BJ and a bad BJ.
canyaz


sparkee58 replies on 7/28/2006 1:07 pm:
the electrical contracting industry is starting to push this
florida plunder & loot is experimenting with solar incentives
with more tax breaks and the abilty to spin that meter in reverse for half the day I think it will take off

now, what did you bet i did for a living?
is it legal?

rm_corezon 53F
3376 posts
7/28/2006 5:09 pm

sparkee58 replies on 7/27/2006 3:39 pm:
not nearly as green as i would like to be
i am thinking about solar photovoltaics for my house
and offering it in my electrical contracting business in FL
there are some nice tax breaks available

Good for you!! I hope the tax breaks continue to get better, that's the very least the government can do to encourage alternative energy uses and companies. I think it's time we re-regulated the oil and power industry and demanded change, they'll do it if it's that or no business. Record profits again this quarter as usual. We're going to have to push the issue as voters because private industry CAN'T do but so much to fight the oil and power companies with the corner on the market and the technological stranglehold.

I don't think they will invest in anything DIFFERENT unless they are forced to, no matter how the mealy mouthed CEO's justify their windfall profits because they will need them for investment (no more drilling in Alaska, either. We need a completely new and environmentally sound technological change from the ground up). Like, 30 years ago. A nationwide system of solar powergrids.

Is it really that impossible?


sparkee58 replies on 7/29/2006 1:56 am:
Was it impossible to put men on the moon?
Or split the atom?
The Apollo Alliance is pushing for a moonshot type program to convert the entire country to renuables. It should be a plank in the dems platform starting now. Progressives have been pushing it for years,.
It has really got almost to the point of no return for humans on earth.
If a person can't see how the planet is responding to us poisoning it, they don't want to see.
Thanks for stopping by, corezon; I always appreciate your input.

canyaz 48F
17087 posts
7/28/2006 5:16 pm

Its legal. I was thinking it had to be something Government.
My friend said it was white collar and another friend said retired.
No one guessed electrical contracting. So we have called it a draw and are going dutch. It was a fun gamble though. Your mind is intellectual and challenging. I enjoy that. Your the kind of guy I would invite over to lounge on my patio, drink margaritas and discuss world politics with. We have had many nights turn into days on my patio that way.
BTW have you seen the bumper sticker:"POLITICS: From poly, meaning "many" and tics, meaning "blood sucking parasites".

There is a difference between a good BJ and a bad BJ.
canyaz


sparkee58 replies on 7/29/2006 1:57 am:
could i get a mango dacquiri instead?

my bumpersticker is the elegant: buck fush

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