another Downing Street memo  

sparkee58 58M
606 posts
8/2/2006 4:16 am

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8/6/2006 2:34 am

another Downing Street memo


"The people of England have been led in Iraq into a trap from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honour. They have been tricked into it by a steady withholding of information. The Baghdad communiques are belated, insincere, imcomplete. Things have been far worse than we have been told, our administration more bloody and inefficient than the public knows. It is a disgrace to our record, and may soon be too inflamed for any ordinary cure. We are today not far from disaster"
T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia)
to
P.M. Winston Churchill
1941

The reply?

"You do not need to bother too much about the long term future in Iraq. Your immediate task is to get a friendly government set up in Baghdad."

And so history repeats.

papyrina 51F
21133 posts
8/2/2006 4:25 am

big time not nice aren't we supposed to learn from our mistakes


I'm a

and
i'm here to stay


sparkee58 replies on 8/2/2006 8:50 am:
history is not a popular subject in american schools

FrankPicasso 52M

8/2/2006 4:30 am

and so we continue to disregard the lessons of history ... insanity.


sparkee58 replies on 8/2/2006 8:51 am:
History is the nightmare from which i am trying to awake.

James Joyce

k1ss1000 47M/36F

8/2/2006 4:45 am

i wont start ranting about iraq because i will be here all day! What i will say is my little step brother recently came back from iraq and i am so glad he is safe. When will we (the world) ever get it right? I seem to think we never will.


sparkee58 replies on 8/2/2006 8:52 am:
with global warming banging on the door, i don't think we'll have time

catseyes23 61F

8/2/2006 10:34 am

Do you know that Winston Churchill was forever depressed and had to have his short naps in the daytime to relieve his stress? What about the ones who were killed in the war? They didn't have the comfort of their own homes to take a 'nap' when they felt stressed. I'm often ashamed to be British because of that when the subject rears its ugly head. Pure history repeating itself. When will we ever learn?


sparkee58 replies on 8/2/2006 11:23 am:
stiff upper lip and all that rot

marnison 79F

8/2/2006 11:07 am

"Personally, I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught."
- Winston Churchill


sparkee58 replies on 8/2/2006 11:22 am:
"Winston, if you were my husband I would lace your tea with poison," said Lady Astor.

"If I were your husband," replied Churchill, "I would drink it."

rm_1hotwahine 62F
21091 posts
8/2/2006 12:19 pm

I'm wondering if history isn't just one big time loop. Think about it.

Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]


sparkee58 replies on 8/2/2006 1:12 pm:
history is like the fastest, highest roller coaster you've ever ridden; even if it is on a loop, all you see is a blur
unless...
you're in the front seat

MoutnainGirl 37F

8/2/2006 6:57 pm

My question is.. Are you really surprised?

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sparkee58 replies on 8/3/2006 1:40 am:
i was surprised at how easily most people kissed this lipsticked pig right on the mouth

SirMounts 102M

8/5/2006 3:12 pm

sparkee...
And if we follow the advice of those who wish democracy to fail in Iraq... well, I guess some feel Saddam with his " rooms" and policy of torture and genocide was a good thing. Their attitude is... who cares about Those people? They're not like "us" anyway, right?


sparkee58 replies on 8/6/2006 2:36 am:
i suppose those 14,000 dead civilians are glad they never saw that " room"

SirMounts 102M

8/5/2006 3:16 pm

marnison said on 8/2/2006 2:07 pm:
"Personally, I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught."
- Winston Churchill
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sparkee58 replies on 8/2/2006 2:22 pm:
"Winston, if you were my husband I would lace your tea with poison," said Lady Astor.
"If I were your husband," replied Churchill, "I would drink it."
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Both great quotes! Churchill was great, wasn't He? *smiling*


sparkee58 replies on 8/6/2006 2:38 am:
yes.
He had a longterm view of history,
but he also fell into the trap of Iraq.

SirMounts 102M

8/5/2006 3:22 pm

sparkee58 replies on 8/2/2006 11:51 am:
History is the nightmare from which i am trying to awake.
James Joyce
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I really, really, really like that one, sparkee. lol. ^5's.


sparkee58 replies on 8/6/2006 2:39 am:
it came from "Ulysses", a great novel i hope someday to finish

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