bizarre and arkological  

somethingelse40 74M
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7/16/2006 6:21 am

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bizarre and arkological

Noah's ark in retrospect…

caught up on the Internet…

“Noah's ark was the legendary boat built by the Biblical character Noah. At the command of God, according to the incredible story and worldwide myth, Noah was to build a boat, a veritable floating zoo that could accommodate his extended family, about 50,000 species of animals, and about one million species of insects. The craft had to be constructed to endure a divinely planned universal flood aimed at destroying every other person and animal on earth (except, I suppose, those [creatures] whose habitat is/was/supposedly aquatic).

"This rather formidable undertaking was essentially no problem, according to Dr. Max D. Younce, who says by his calculations from Genesis 6:15 that the ark was 450 feet long [a mere football field and a half], 75 feet wide [considerably wider than your typical football field] and 45 feet deep [a rather nice size super-dome or stadium, verily over-hovered perhaps by the very blimp of the Almighty–and overall a rather huge river barge indeed, perhaps a bit more like unto the size of a substantial aircraft carrier]. He says this is equivalent to "522 standard stock cars or 8 freight trains of 65 cars each." By some divine calculation he figures that all the insect species and the worms could fit in 21 box cars [your basic super-sized can of worms]. He could be right; though Dr. Younce does not address the issue of how this Big Top circus filled with its rather unique cargo rose with the rainwater level instead of staying put beneath the floodwaters.

Give the guy a break for Pete’s sake: the dude was either delusional or merely following orders. Some woods just naturally tend to float regardless of what’s crawling around on them. Why you could easily float my funny ass boat, my liege.

"God was He pissed. Those not familiar with the story might wonder why God would destroy nearly all the descendants of all of the creatures he had created. The rumor is that God was displeased with all of his human creations, except for Noah and his immediate family. Annihilating those one is displeased with has become a familiar and gruesome tactic of the followers of this and many other strange gods. Yet is that not his innate and considered prerogative? If you like/d this world you’ll love the next one. Just you wait and see.

“Despite the rather gruesome and graphic example God set for Noah's descendants--imagine a human parent drowning his or her children because they were ornery, "not quite right"--the story remains a favorite among children. God only likes good people. He lets them ride on a floating zoo with a bunch of friendly animals. He shows them a great rainbow after the storm. And they all live happily ever after. Even adults like the story, though they might see it more as an allegory of a sort in butting heads with alligators with some sort of spiritual message, such as God is all-powerful and we owe everything, even our very, ostensibly mortal, existence to the Creator, lock, stock, and barrel. Furthermore, the Creator expects us to behave ourselves [toe the line so to speak, while furiously butting heads with allegories and up to the extended capacity of our expanding craniums in spiritual alligators]. But there are many who take the story literally, if not figuratively as well. Are we there yet?

“According to the narrative in chapter 7 of Genesis, Noah, his motley crew, and the animals (some no doubt looking strangely almost human in many respects, [It’s a small although somewhat heterogeneous world.]), they all lived together for more than 6 months before the floodwaters receded. There are indeed a few minor logistical problems with this arrangement, but before breaking down on them, there is one other thing that needs commenting on … perhaps perusing, and pondering. It is obvious that floods are no laughing matter. The destruction of life and property caused by floods has plagued many animals, not just humans, from time immemorial. To watch one's family and/or home and/or treasure swept away in floodwaters must be a terrible spectacle. To see one's children drown, one's life and dreams washed away in an instant must be a devastating experience.

"But if one were to discover that the flood was not a whimsical effect of chance natural events or runaway global warming, not unplanned and purposeless, but rather the malicious and willful act of a conscious, perhaps super conscious, being, one might add rage to the feelings of devastation. I suppose one could argue that it is God's world; he created it, so he can mess with it or destroy it whenever he feels like it. But such an attitude/attribute somehow seems inappropriate for an All-Good, Loving, and Benevolent God.

Found upon, merciless quoted, and expounded upon from otherwise apparently anonymous Internet droppings, [first envisioned perhaps as a little now and a little some other time (the abridged, coincidental, and condensed sequence generally of my payment of debts and my love life)]; indeed, quoted and randomly interpolated Internet, which of course ostensibly would have made Noah’s task much simpler and exceedingly more straight forward had it been available at the time, indeed if it was available then we are given hardly a hint.

Say La Vie!




moonfire2u 69F
2602 posts
7/16/2006 11:56 am

I, for one, take the biblical stories with a grain of salt...I believe they were 'made up' to lull the masses...to control and manipulate people like we do children...because at the time these stories were concocted...people were uneducated and backwards and needed stories to teach them...again to control them...if you don't behave the way we want you to...you will be destroyed or sent to hell...this is God's law...but in actuality...this is Man's law...as always...you have a thought provoking blog and a delicious sense of humor...

kind thoughts,
Moonfire


somethingelse40 replies on 7/16/2006 2:58 pm:
The closer I get to humanly observable facts, the better my chance of discovering what my beliefs are. Thanks for your thoughts. I like your feelings too.

adbacula 36M

7/16/2006 12:42 pm

Hi somethingelse,

Wow! I'm working on somethingelse like this... heh. (Among others)

What I believe is, it's a prophecy. About our exodus from this planet. Even then, we knew it would come to this. It's like our "packing guide" for a one way road trip. Unfortunately for us, I believe it's the rich and powerful who be leaving us all behind. It's just costs too much and it's too much trouble to save us all! And, time is short!

It's been on my mind a lot lately, ever since I read someone's blurb (and I apologize to them for not remembering who), about Stephen Hawking and his thoughts on, "How will the human race survive the next hundred years.") IMHO, I think he means, "If?"

Cheers,
ad


somethingelse40 replies on 7/16/2006 3:12 pm:
The next hundred years could be treacherous indeed as has the last hundred or so for many kindred spirits. “I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several centuries attack me at once.” Thanks for your considerable input. I once read one of Stephen Hawkin's books and will likely seek out another one since he has now resurfaced in your comment.

florallei 99F

7/16/2006 1:30 pm

Hi G,

Love this posts...I am a believer of this account in Genesis...upon first learning of this gruesome and seemingly heartless and unloving God I felt terrified as to how he could bring such a catastrophic end to people including children and only allowing Noah and his immediate sons and their wives to survive with the many variety of species of animals.
I believe according to scholars and the account it took decades(50 yrs.) for Noah to build the said Ark with the incessant mockery of his fellow neighbours. During that time he also preached according to the account warning of this global deluge but to no avail...it was laughed and mocked at until the door was closed by God on the Ark.
That being said the adults were warned but why would a loving God destroy innocent children...this has perplexed me for years until one day as I was gardening little cutworms had snipped off all my cucumber plants with all the time and effort for me to cultivate, weed it and water those plants I was heart sick and upset.
Then I thought about those nasty cut worms...for me to rid of their infestation I must destroy them...would I just pick the adults and leave their babies because oh they are not to blame. Then it dawned on me that those baby cut worms will also grow up to be like their adult parents...destructive,
Then it hit me about Noah's day and the flood and why God also destroyed children. The earth at that time became so wicked and violent and the thought of man and his heart was so far removed from their Creator who had given them this beautiful earth. If you were God and you wanted to clean house...would you only rid of the adults and leave the children so they mature and follow their parents footsteps...I gather not...it made me think of Jesus' words "little pharisees become big pharisees"....Anyways this is only my thoughts...just wanted to share it with you...sorry it is such a long comment G.
TY G
flo


somethingelse40 replies on 7/16/2006 2:03 pm:
That's a magnificent and incredible comment, Flo. My mind and heart sometimes give confusing messages, but the call of my stomach is always clear. Unfortunately, the clearer I see things the more confused I may actually become.

SacredStarDance

7/17/2006 5:57 am

Love this post and the comments from you visitors.I hope this does not offend any one but I simply put down the Bible and any man made religion years and years ago.
From a simple mind I feel the spirit but do not think any God or angel will save me in a time of need.I was giving half a brain to do it on my own and not to depend on anything else.
under the stars..is my time to think of how to help myself through this mass of confusion of life and that all the pain to good people is from man.. Not any God.
Thanks

under the stars
We choose to write
you choose what you comprehend.
read twice and be nice
every key stroke... has a heart beat


somethingelse40 replies on 7/17/2006 10:39 am:
God is quite a chameleon you know and can generally assume most any form or consciousness your mind can comprehend. Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark. If only those who are dearest to me could always be those who are nearest. I treasure your comment.

LadytoPleaseYou 64F
5447 posts
7/17/2006 9:31 am

The Bible leaves many unanswered logistical questions. Faith is the key. One must not limit the power of God. If He wanted the boat to float it would float regardless of what it was made of.
There is a difference between having faith in God and being religious. Religions are indeed manmade with manmade laws randomly picked from the Bible. Faith in God requires nothing but the heartfelt knowledge that He is real and He will save you if you just but ask.
Also, don't underestimate the power of Satan. He appears as an 'angel of light' to deceive us. Using the story of Norah Ark and all the educated theroies as to why or why not is an excellent example of the way he works.

<-------steps off soapbox now.

PENIS CHARMING....where are you?


somethingelse40 replies on 7/17/2006 5:50 pm:
LadytoPleaseYou, indeed there are many unanswered questions, perhaps many uncountable universes beyond our own, of which our entire universe may be little more than a rather insignificant bubble. Who knows what all lies beyond the great beyond? Perhaps the Bible does answer many questions, especially pertaining to relationships, although some of the answers as well as some of the questions may seem quite unreasonable at times. Yet we all know the feeling we get when we truly opt for right relationships.

SacredStarDance

7/17/2006 4:01 pm

that was a wonderful response to my comment..I would love to quote you..
sorry I'm back but you opened a dear topic to me which is hope and faith.. and I know something magnificent has giving it to me.. but I feel it's up to me how I use it.
I just see to many people pray expecting a miracle and just sit and wait.. then when it does not happen they loose all faith.. when it's us that are the miracles and its up to us to make those miracles happen and accept when they don't happen.
for me prayer is positive energy.. sending out good thoughts and faith and hope.. I feel the energy come right back at me to make me stronger to help a friend.. family.. a stranger..me..
ok.. I'll shud up now

under the stars


under the stars
We choose to write
you choose what you comprehend.
read twice and be nice
every key stroke... has a heart beat


somethingelse40 replies on 7/17/2006 6:10 pm:
Everything is a miracle. Everyone is a miracle. Everything is spiritually interrelated. Indeed there is a Master Consciousness that we draw upon, from whence we come and to which we return. You are a significant part of that miracle, with your own unique path and circumstances. We all are. Certainly part of that miracle are your God given talents along with your mind, body, and spirit, which by the good graces and ordinances of the Almighty only you can put to good use, or to any use at all. God bless!

EvilEvilKitten1 61F

7/17/2006 9:39 pm

Now then, tell me where he got 40 days and 40 nights worth of food for the animals? And who is going to clean up that mess down there???

N


somethingelse40 replies on 7/18/2006 2:29 am:
Maybe they just ate each other. Some things will eat anything ... if ya git my drift?

rm_goddess1946 105F
13518 posts
7/18/2006 6:06 pm

I think that God allows *flooding* experiences in many
ways to wash away everything so that we can start anew... sometimes that is the only thing that works...


Just a little food for thought.............
If you really want to be happy, nobody can stop you...
{=}


somethingelse40 replies on 7/18/2006 6:22 pm:
Speak nothing but the truth, and you'll soon be considered dangerous. Fortunately, there’s considerable difference between what people think of me and what they do about it. Perhaps the same could be said for what God thinks. Lovely smile!

ButteryDelight 58F

7/21/2006 10:25 am

Interesting blog post. I for one, believe in a supreme being. I choose to call him God. And if he is God and he is supreme, then it is not for me to question and make demands of him asking why this and why that.

If I could question and demand of God in person, I'd sure question him as to why my sister has a precancerous lump on her breast? And How did this happen and why is he allowing this to happen? And while God was being my personal question and answer machine,I'd also ask why wars? Why drugs? Why hunger, poverty, and sicknesses with out any cures?

Which only leads to more questions.

Buttery Delight


somethingelse40 replies on 7/21/2006 12:51 pm:
Perhaps one thing we can learn by asking more questions is that it can sometimes seem futile to ask more questions. Yet perhaps everything is indeed under the watchful care and control of the Almighty even in perilous times especially in the prevailing universe as we hardy know and understand it? Thanks for sharing.

HBowt2 58F

8/9/2006 2:51 am

I often think that the bible is one of the greatest work of fictions ever compiled. We all know that most fiction is based on grains of truth but at this stage there is no way to know which story is true. Faith/Religion, call it what you want, is a very personal thing. We all see and feel things differently. When I see a colour it may not be in the same way that you do.
My need to believe in a God may be different than your need to believe in one...my expectations and desires may be different so therefore my perspective of what 'God' is will be different.
I believe we are all connected...everything that lives is a part of what we are...as we are of it....and if I wiped it out and only saved a section of it then I would be wiping out too much of me to survive.


somethingelse40 replies on 8/9/2006 7:22 pm:
Surely there can’t be more than one religion? Why that would be damn near sacrilegious, huh? The bible is indeed a force to be reckoned with, as has no doubt been the case ever since its inception and throughout its many revisions and translations down through the ages, although the many hand printed copies of missing originals often seem miraculously identical. Ostensibly much has been added and much subtracted since its appearance. Yet it’s a work that I often find profound, refreshing, and irresistible, intimidating, convicting, and boring.

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