## Civil War ##  

smoothnjuicy4u 50F
426 posts
6/20/2006 9:46 am

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## Civil War ##

Wishing I was there on that beach relaxing instead of here in the middle of the war zone.

Thats what's been going on in my home the last two weeks !!!! A civil war, but mind you what we are all fighting for is not such righteous reasons say freedom or taxes it's over this confounded computer !!!!!!!

There have been many negotiations in trying to settle this matter in a peaceful manner. But all attempts at peace treaties have failed !!!!

All out war has now erupted . Timers have been set, schedules have been made. All of which have been broken not followed. My oldest has even resorted to setting his alarm clock to arise before us or to get up in the middle of the night (he found the logon for windows now has been changed and changes daily)

They are now attempting psychological warfare !!!
using music they know I can not stand. Fighting has sprung up within their own troupes as well. In hopes to close up my creative side with stress so I can no longer blog !!!!

But I will be victorious, and if they don't surrender soon I am gonna take them as prisoners of war and put them on trial possibly give them a sentence of hard labor in their own backyard, or maybe even some good ole fashion corporal punishment!!

Do any of you have a civil war going on in your home over the computer , anything really?? Am I alone in the fight for my rights LOL????

P.S We have put an offer in one another home, cross your fingers for us, time is short if wanna get in one before the school year starts.

Hugs and Peace2u all.
Smooth


horny4770 60M
8158 posts
6/20/2006 2:11 pm

Dissention in the ranks, mutiny on the high seas . . . sounds almost like parenthood.

I was a tough general-I went with the hard labor! LOL

Good luck with the home.

btw-that beach does look tempting...


rm_Shortdogg65 51M
672 posts
6/20/2006 9:24 pm

I live alone. My house, my rules. Shortdogg


smoothnjuicy4u 50F

6/21/2006 4:27 am

I know, I am a softy at times with my boys, I need to toughen up, I think I'll go with hard labor. That beach is way to tempting.

Dusty my older son had his own computer, but he crashed the hard drive and I'm not buying him a new one till he earns it.

I think Id rather live thur this war than live alone, though it sounds rather sweet right about now.

Thanks for sharing guys.

Hugs and Peace2u all
Smooth


T_A_B_75 41M

6/21/2006 7:59 am

Good luck with the war and the house.

My opinion of what you should do with the war depends on what they are using the computer for. Internet and e-mail, just an old win 98 box will do, you can find those around for less than $50. Game computers become more complicated.

Your computer is yours, remember your their parent first, friend second.


smoothnjuicy4u 50F

6/22/2006 7:11 am

Well Tabs thats what has caused my war its my computer not theirs and they are having withdrawl. LOL My eldest uses it for many things including gaming so it will be while before he gets one again, he has to show me he'll be more responsible in what he does on it so he wont crash it again.
Thanks Smooth


smoothnjuicy4u 50F

6/22/2006 9:34 am

Don't think I haven't thought of it LOL..


warmandsexy52 64M
13164 posts
6/22/2006 12:34 pm

The only solution to make sure that everyone has their own. I do think a computer is a very personal piece of machinery.

Keeping my fingers crossed for your property purchase. It can be such a tough thing to go through.

warm xx


fair__is__fair 30F
15 posts
6/22/2006 2:00 pm

Sorry to disturb your blog, but someone has recently emailed me and harrased me by sending me this letter about Herman from the abuse team. I’m not going to give the name of the person who harrassed me since this is his first time, but I just want to make everyone aware of what this person is saying about poor Herman!

Here’s what he wrote to me!

Does AdultFriendFinder have a staffing problem, maybe?

As I’ve already mentioned, it is not my jurisdiction to tell AdultFriendFinder how to run their company, but if a staff member is acting in such a manner which is discriminatory toward ones dating approach, and acting on behalf of those who are abusive, and refusing to hear any explanation on behalf of the defender whatsoever, is it wrong to point him out? What if this person is acting against the interest of a fair non-judgemental dating environment, where everyone’s unique opinions and personalities are treated with equal respect?
What if he is standing in the way of future AdultFriendFinder profits? Suppose there is clear evidence that he is abusive of his authority, and uses his own personal discrimination in preventing a paid site member from expressing a reasonable case for his side of a conflict? Suppose his job is to mediate conflict, and he lacks character, and there is clear evidence that he has a dictating personality, and offers no evaluative reasoning for his decisions? What if someone’s unique dating approach is done with the intention of improving the site for everyone, yet the staff member simply outright refuses to listen? Suppose it can be made very obvious to anyone who understands the dating business, that this staff member simply does not have the attributes and skills required to fulfill what his position requires of him? What if unquestionable evidence ofthis can be provided at the end of this post? Then would it be wrong to point him out? Perhaps it would be. Maybe I’ll just Email the name of this person to several site members privately and see what they think, and allow them to act on their own judgement, in hopes that a more openminded abuse team member, with more character, diplomacy skills, reasoning ability, and respect for the diversity of all site members tenure on the site can be promoted to an authority figure in the abuse team.

For now, I merely wish to state my case against this anonymous staff member, so that all of those who read this message can find the necessary evidence which will lead to proof that this staff member is neither acting in the interest of the company, or it’s paid site members. I merely do this in the interest of the well being of any and/or all site members, past, present, and future, so that people can feel confident and secure that they will not be removed from access to all those people in which a person has invested so much of their time and affection for.

At the forefront, I’d just like to say that the person who I am speaking on behalf of has told me quite earnestly that all AdultFriendFinder staff members have been very gracious and understanding in their dealings with him, and he has found it quite easy to reach an agreement with them. However, the one and only abuse team member, of those he has spoken with, who refuses to listen to any part of this site members defense against abuse reports from members of whom my subject has wittingly albeit fairly retaliated against, also happens to hold an authoritative position within the abuse department.

THE QUESTION I HAVE for anyone to whom this authoritative abuse team member is held accountable to, is how are people supposed to enjoy this site when they have to live in fear of the fact that someone with the power to remove them from all those they have invested their time and energy into, can be persuaded to do so easily by those who try to dictate to other people how to approach the site? Would the site not be better if all people were allowed to express their person in manner which represents them according to their own personal tastes in a sex partner? If a person is not free to present themselves in as interesting of a manner as they are capable of, what is the point of competing for a sex partner on this site? There are far more women off the site, to which a person is not limited in their manner of expression.

Those who have used the advice lines for any period of time should be already quite aware of this, but to those of which the staff member of which I speak of is held accountable to, who are not aware, a trip to the advice lines will soon demonstrate that there is a large majority of individuals who are trying to dictate to other people the type of questions they should ask, and putting a great deal of effort into ensuring that everyone who visits the advice columns ask questions that suit the ideals of how this majority feels the advice columns should operate.

When they do not like the nature of someone’s question, they all join forces, to go in and insult the person’s choice of question, and tell them not to come to the advice columns, without ever giving any effort whatsoever toward giving an answer that would satisfy to any end what the advice seeker is seeking.

If you visit the advice columns, this evidence is quite clear. The insults are very common.
No more clear is this then the manner in which nice20402s advice question bearing new york in the title in which many members copied and pasted the same negative response to his taste in humor, calling him a troll and casting the uneducated judgement that he does not respect women. How an adult presents themselves in the public eye, bears no relation to how a person treats an individual. Everyone has different tastes in humor and are attracted to and/or unattracted to different qualities. I’m very certain that luvpump and other exectutives are well aware of the fact that a dating site serves the people best when it consists of variety as opposed to uniformity. The parts of the dating environment
which act as a public forum for the exposure of legal adults to the general dating public should be open to all forms of expression, so that people are able to not only freely express themselves in accordance to their personal satisfaction, but so that the dating environment consists of enough variety that members may find the type of partner that meets their own personal preference. No one should have any right to decide how another person presents themselves in a public forum. If you don’t like to watch “Southpark”, change the channel. I’m sure there are plenty of episodes of “Leave it to Beaver” out there to watch, and if that’s your preference, then whatever happens on Southpark should be of no concern to you. Should you choose to attack the dating style of someone that does not suit your own in a public forum, then in my opinion, you should be open to any form of retaliation within that public forum. There should be no reason to have someone removed from the site simply because you do not agree with their dating approach. We are all here to find the people that match us. While debating and arguing can sometimes be a fun approach to take in getting to know someone, having someone you don’t know removed from the system, simply because you do no like their dating methods is absolutely unacceptable. I don’t think any truly mature adult would disagree with that.

Rather then report abuse to these people’s insults and dictatorship, as was suggested to him by one staff member, the subject who I represent chose instead to retaliate to these people’s insults with insults of his own.

At the point where my subject had done this, the instigators took great offence to this, and began to pile insult after insult on him, no matter what type of question he asked. Even when he chose to graciously step down from the position he felt to be right, and offered to bury the hatchet, these individuals STILL laid insults on him.

I’d like to point out ten facts about my subject.

1. He has never once reported abuse on a member for any reason .
2 He has never once Emailed anything to a member in private that was in the slightest way derogative toward them.
3. He has never told anyone how they should go about using the site, or asked that they change any aspect of their profile or dating approach.
4. He has attempted to resolve conflicts on many occasions
5 He has carried out all conflict in an entertaining manner within the exposure of a public forum.

6. All of his retaliations and comebacks have been done in fun, non hating manner, and his retaliations are done with the intention of acting in the interest of all victims of aggression in an entertaining manner.
7. Not one person who he has retaliated against or anyone one else claiming to have reason to report him for abuse has ever spoken to him in person.
8. He has always responded kindly on the site to those who speak well of him.
9. He has treated all people in the same manner, and responded in accordance to how he has been responded to, regardless of age, sex, sexual orientation, race, or religion. Any derogatory terms concerning race and sexual orientation have been used in a friendly manner.

10. He has explained his position quite effectively to many members of the abuse team, who have all repeatedly accepted his reasoning, and had his profile reapproved approximately 15 to 20 times, and has only failed to reach agreement with one abuse team member.

Neither I, nor my subject ever hoped it would have to come to this, but when an AdultFriendFinder staff member who holds a position of authority, has clearly failed to treat site members fairly and with respect, and outright refused to act diplomatically, after several attempts of offering a polite and reasonable explanation, I feel a need to step in, so that in the future, AdultFriendFinder staff members will act in a manner which best serves the interest of it’s members.

As promised at the beginning of this post I will now provide evidence which will clearly demonstrate that one staff member has not been acting in accordance to a strategy which serves the interest of the company or that provides understanding to a wide variety of personality types from different social backgrounds, which I feel is a vital skill necessary in creating a positive an diverse atmosphere on a dating site which is exposed to the general adult public.

I only do this so that a more suitable, openminded member of the abuse team can be promoted to a position of authority, while the current authorative abuse department figure can be placed in a position which is more suitable to his character style and skills.

Should this particular staff member choose to take recourse on his discriminatory actions, and begin to move more toward a direction which serves it’s members interests, I see no reason why he should not be allowed to continue developing skills in his current position.

However, should he continue to disallow people like my subject who I describe in the list of nine facts, to have the freedom to express himself according to his own personal dating tastes, and continues to act in accordance with the current dictatorial majority in the advice columns, I do not feel this will serve the interests of future site members who may receive the same abuse from this same current dictatorial majority.

I believe all adults on this site should respect any and all dating approaches, of anyone presenting himself on any of the sites public forums, regardless of whether or not they agree with that approach.

I believe retalitory insults, or insults which are used sparingly in a PUBLIC FORUM, should not be considered abuse.

Just as the majority of site members were allowed the freedom to lay insults on my subject, my subject should have the freedom to lay retaliatory insults on that same majority.

Unless someone is acting in a manner which clearly acts against the personal safety or well being of a site member, all adults who enter into a public forum should bear the responsibility of acting in their own defense.

This is what allows adults to have personal growth and progression in their search for a partner who expresses themselves freely, and without prejudice.

Provided that AdultFriendFinder monitors their telephone abuse reports, as any dating site should to ensure fair treatment of site members by the staff, there should be clear evidence that the site member who was initially a paid gold member, and bore the handle entitled livinlavalova, melikekmunch2, and guess_hooze_back among others, has approached the abuse team on several occasions and acted politely and diplomatically in defense of abuse reports against him. Much of the reasoning behind his defense can be determined from conversations from a variety of Abuse team staff. Clear evidence should exist, that there has been but only one staff member who failed to listen to his reasoning. It should also be quite clear that this staff member has acted unreasonably toward being understanding to this site member, and has not provided suitable cause, made any attempt to acknowledge my subject’s reasoning, and provided no just reasoning for his stubborn refusal of this member’s enjoyment on the site other than “we do not allow members whose profile we have removed to return.”

Despite consistent attempts by my subject to use diplomacy and sound reasoning to persuade this sole staff member to allow my subject to continue his attempts at finding his style of partner, and enhancing the marketability of the site, the staff member has consistently fell back on the reasoning quoted above, and has clearly stated that this decision his solely his own.

He has also threatened to take legal action against this initial gold member who has put forth tireless efforts toward enhancing the entertainment value of the site, for his refusal to leave the site, as those who instigated the attack on freedom of expression, would likely support.

Livinlavalova’s initial advice questions, “If I don’t look as good as Larry King, do Ihave a hope in hell on this site,” and “I’m having a math problem here,” should provide clear evidence of how his harmless dating approach was dissuaded, how he defended his approach, and how the mass attacks on him developed.

All advice questions on all handlenames he has used should provide insight into his character and qualities, the manner in which he responds to friendly members, and his elaborate strategy against non friendly members. I feel it is reasonable to assert this matter so that Liv Inlavalova as well as any future members whose approach runs contrary to the uniformity of the majority, can be free of harrassment from members and
staff in the future, and feel free to enjoy the site like everyone else.

I would like to again reiterate the fact that my subject has not once reported abuse on a sitemember.

Thank you for your consideration.

"BOSS"

Please make people aware of what this person has said, so that site members can stop harrassing AdultFriendFinder staff and the site can be more enjoyable for all.
I will now post this on the CEO’s blog as well as anywhere I can, so that people who are trying to enjoy the site can be aware of what is being said about Herman.
I apologize for the interruption.

Melody.


smoothnjuicy4u 50F

6/23/2006 4:03 pm

Good advice Fly, but already tried it they have an xbox and a ps2 and with their allowances from chores they rent new games every week. They are stubborn I wonder where they get that from, anyways, new rule, if Mom don't get her computer time in peace and quiet they dont get their video game rentals or computer time. Needless to say next week is gonna be heck, they arent cooperating LOL. Glad to see you back and blogging.
Big Hugs
Smooth


digdug41 49M

6/23/2006 6:16 pm

Smooth darlin sorry it has taken me a minute to come by and say heeey! but I know whatcha goin through my oldest got a page on My Space and want to fight with me for MY COMPUTER but I know whats needed his own buit he gotta hold on I let him rock on mine but he just wants to cut me off and thats a no no but now I am think ing of other things so he may have more time

roaming the cyber streets of blogland


smoothnjuicy4u 50F

6/24/2006 9:17 am

Hey Digs, my guy is a moderator, gamer and such and writes on fan fiction and he wants it all the time. But he aint getting it. LOL good luck in doin your thing hun.
Hugs Digs


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