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shooter0085 41M
194 posts
8/4/2006 7:34 am

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I have a Pickle for you....see if you can figure this one out.


Infinity....can you really have a concept of Infinity? Do our finite minds understand infinite? We know it is there, but do we know what it is? Going back to my "thomist" roots, we know from Prima Pars that infinity is first cause, and that necessarily because finitude exists, it must have been generated from infinitude. So, here is my question, what can we really claim to know? Since we were generated from infinity, can we really know it? There are arguments that claim that we cannot, we can only know some of it through its attributes. Imagine not knowing anything for a second.....as humans we attain knowledge through our senses, sight, smell, taste, touch, hearing.....do those exist in infinity? How could they? Matter, itself, is finite is it not? And not to get off tract here, but have you read anything about anti-matter? Fuck me....powerful stuff! So, if matter is generated, but can be reformed to other molecular structures, but maintains its molecular structure, then it must be finite, right? Because it has that which is sensory. So here is my question....what really is infinite? And how can we grasp its essence through attributive knowledge? What do you think?

header1979 37M
507 posts
8/4/2006 10:56 am

WOW Shooter, when you start blogging, you really do it up big.

The short answer to your question is that the finite mind cannot grasp the infinite.

This touches on the philosophic question of what is existence.

If you want to do some heavy reading on this topic get a copy the "Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge" (1710) by George Berkeley (12 March 1685 ‒ 14 January 1753) (pronounced Bar - clay), also known as Bishop Berkeley. He was an influential Irish philosopher and is of the philosophers called the "modern philosophers" that include DesCartes and Spinoza.

The city of Berkley California is named for him.

It is a heavy read and you may need to get some other books that help explain it. A cheap easy explanation and summary can be got from Cliff Notes but don't rely on that.


shooter0085 replies on 8/4/2006 2:08 pm:
Thanks Header for your comments. I have been meaning to make contact with you. You are one of the few that actually has decent things to say in the AL. As far as what is written here, I am very familiar with Berkeley. I was a Phil major at UD in Irving, TX, which I am sure you have heard of being in DC. Look forward to seeing you again.

Andy

phoenix639 49F

8/5/2006 1:08 am

Infinity....to me means something that grows beyond any expected value of the norm.

The love of our children = infinite

Can infinity really be measured if the subjects properties are in continuance of eternity.

PS is continuance a real word or have i just made that up?


shooter0085 replies on 8/5/2006 6:15 am:
Sweet Phx,

You can say whatever word you want in here, as long as I get to see you beautiful face You also hit on a great point, eternity. Eternity must exist in the collection of that which we have attained through the senses, but if its a priori catalyst is matter, can it be truly infinite? Great comments beautiful one!

rm_plain1_5 56M
28 posts
8/5/2006 1:27 pm

hm! I knew the answer; but, I didn't get it typed soon enough!

This is some very tough competition. shooter - one hot, hung, intelligent stud; header - love those Virginians! phoenix - cute is tough to disagree with!


phoenix639 49F

8/5/2006 2:30 pm

Oh my...you do use big words.

Dont forget i am just a lowly woman.


shooter0085 replies on 8/6/2006 7:35 am:
Sweet Phx,
Lowly woman? This isn't Medieval Europe. Lowly you are not, beautiful you are.

sooolongsuckers 40M

8/5/2006 6:00 pm

Shooter. I honestly don't think our finite minds can grasp infinite fully. I mean we can conceive of it, but how much of it are we missing. Try to imagine an infinite amount of concepts. Well just think of all the concepts you aren't thinking about when you do that.
I mean infinite is just infinitely too much plus there is an infinite more things beyond that.
Bluggugugugugugly
Sorry, just had to shake my head there.


shooter0085 replies on 8/6/2006 7:37 am:
Sir,
You come around here more often and I at yours. Very true what you state.

hottomguy21 27F

8/10/2006 2:51 am

dear you are so hot and hard and very sexy and i like you and your all sexy body photo


shooter0085 replies on 8/12/2006 6:19 am:
Why, thank you very much. See, guys like compliments too.

rm_222when911 45M/42F
5206 posts
8/11/2006 3:41 pm

All I know is contemplating the concept of infinity really puts each persons relevance to the universe into perspective. J

"You may think I'm a little off center, but if you really knew me you'd run~!"


shooter0085 replies on 8/12/2006 6:20 am:
J,
Dead on....this is why Humility is soooooo important.

rm_poetictrance 51M/48F
21 posts
8/13/2006 7:06 am

“What really is infinite?”

I believe that each soul has a unique energy signature or frequency. I do believe that the speed of light is the limiting speed in the PHYSICAL universe, but this is where it gets interesting… Einstein observed that time approaches zero as your speed approaches the speed of light.

The reason? I believe quite simply because time is an illusion in the world of the relative.

I believe that our spirits have a frequency much higher than the speed of light, and that traveling between two places is instantaneous in the spirit world and merely requires focused thought.

I believe that the essence of god can be understood in one sense as energy vibrating at the speed of infinity. All matter is energy and even scientists postulate that the universe was created from a mass smaller than the head of a pin. That requires some dense energy, and how much more dense could it be if the energy was vibrating at the speed of infinity.

Weird as it may sounds, I think that love and energy are interchangeable, and the purer the live, the higher its vibration. Energy vibrating at the speed of infinity boasts a love so pure it is beyond comprehension in our present form. There is an amazing connection here between love and energy that is quite practical.


shooter0085 replies on 8/13/2006 7:48 pm:
PT,
This response requires an e-mail, be looking for it tomorrow sometime. We definitely "get" each other.

rm_poetictrance 51M/48F
21 posts
8/13/2006 7:07 am

"A Priori?"

sounds like you've read Immanual Kant's "Critique of Pure Reason".


shooter0085 replies on 8/13/2006 7:51 am:
Wow....you can spot a Phil major from miles away

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