ON a serious note - a warning about "dusting"  

rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
5791 posts
8/17/2005 12:05 pm

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ON a serious note - a warning about "dusting"

Just got this in my email today... In case you have children or grandchildren, you should be aware of this happening....

First I'm going to tell you a little about me and my family. My name is Jeff. I am a Police Officer for a city which is known nationwide for its crime rate. We have a lot of gangs and drugs. At one point we were # 2 in the nation in homicides per capita. I also have a police K-9 named Thor. He was certified in drugs and general duty. He retired at 3 years old because he was shot in the line of duty.? He lives with us now and I still train with him because he likes it.? I always liked the fact that there was no way to bring drugs into my house. Thor wouldn't allow it. He would tell on you. The reason I say this is so you understand that I know about drugs. I have taught in schools about drugs. My wife asks all our kids at least once a
week if they used any drugs. Makes them promise they wont.

I like building computers occasionally and started building a new one in February 2005. I also was working on some of my older computers. They were full of dust so on one of my trips to the computer store I bought a 3 pack of DUST OFF. Dust Off is a can of compressed air to blow dust off a computer. A few weeks later when I went to use one of them they were all used. I talked to my kids and my?two sons both said they had used them on their computer and messing around with them. I yelled at them for wasting the 10 dollars I paid for them. On February 28 I went back to the computer store. They didn't have the 3 pack which I had bought on sale so I bought a single jumbo can of Dust Off. I went home and set it down beside my computer.

On March 1st, I left for work at 10 PM. Just before midnight my wife went down and kissed Kyle goodnight. At 5:30 am the next morning Kathy went downstairs to wake Kyle up for school, before she left for work. He was propped up in bed with his legs crossed and his head leaning over. She called to him a few times to get up. He didn't move. He would sometimes tease her like this and pretend he fell back asleep. He was never easy to get up. She went in and shook his arm. He fell over. He was pale white and had the straw from the Dust Off can coming out of his mouth. He had the new can of Dust Off in his hands. Kyle was dead.

I am a police officer and I had never heard of this. My wife is a nurse and she had never heard of this. We later found out from the coroner, after the autopsy, that only the propellant from the can of Dust off was in his system. No other drugs. Kyle had died between midnight and 1 AM

I found out that using Dust Off is being done mostly by kids ages 9 through 15. They even have a name for it. It's called dusting. A take off from the Dust Off name. It gives them a slight high for about 10 seconds. It makes them dizzy. A boy who lives down the street from us showed Kyle how to do this about a month before. Kyle showed his best friend. Told him it was cool and it couldn't hurt you. Its just compressed air. It can't hurt you. His best friend said no.

Kyle was wrong. It's not just compressed air. It also contains a propellant called R2. Its a refrigerant like what is used in your refrigerator. It is a heavy gas. Heavier than air. When you
inhale it, it fills your lungs and keeps the good air, with oxygen, out. That's why you feel dizzy, buzzed. It decreases the oxygen to your brain, to your heart. Kyle was right. It can't hurt you. IT KILLS YOU. The horrible part about this is there is no warning.? There is no level that kills you. It's not cumulative or an overdose; it can just go randomly, terribly wrong. Roll the dice and if your number comes up you die. IT'S NOT AN OVERDOSE. It's Russian Roulette. You don't die later. Or not feel good and say I've had too much. You usually die as you're breathing it in. If not, you die within 2 seconds of finishing "the hit." That's why the straw was still in Kyle's mouth when he died. Why his eyes were still open.

The experts want to call this huffing. The kids don't believe it's huffing. As adults we tend to lump many things together. But it doesn't fit here. And that's why it's more accepted. There is no chemical reaction. no strong odor. It doesn't follow the huffing signals. Kyle complained a few days before he died of his tongue hurting. It probably did. The propellant causes frostbite. If I had only known.

It's easy to say hey, it's my life and I'll do what I want. But it isn't. Others are always effected. This has forever changed our family's life. I have a hole in my heart and soul that can never be
fixed. The pain is so immense I can't describe it. There's nowhere to run from it. I cry all the time and I don't ever cry. I do what I'm supposed to do but I don't really care. My kids are messed up. One won't talk about it. The other will only sleep in our room at night. And my wife, I can't even describe how bad she is taking this. I thought we were safe because of Thor. I thought we were safe because we knew about drugs and talked to our kids about them.

After Kyle died another story came out. A Probation Officer went to the school system next to ours to speak with a student. While there he found a student using Dust Off in the bathroom. This student told him about another student who also had some in his locker. This is a rather affluent school system. They will tell you they don't have a drug problem there. They don't even have a dare or plus program there. So rather than tell everyone about this "new" way of getting high they found, they hid it. The probation officer told the media
after Kyle's death and they, the school, then admitted to it. I know that if they would have told the media and I had heard, it wouldn't have been in my house.

We need to get this out of our homes and school computer labs. Using Dust Off isn't new and some "professionals" do know about. It just isn't talked about much, except by the kids. They all seem to know about it.

April 2nd was 1 month since Kyle died. April 5th would have been his 15th birthday. And every weekday I catch myself sitting on the living room couch at 2:30 in the afternoon and waiting to see him get off the bus. I know Kyle is in heaven but I can't help but wonder
If I died and went to Hell.
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This Officer is asking for everyone who receives this email to?send it to everyone you know, even Law Enforcement Officers.


This has been verified through Snopes and was sent to me through a law enforcement agency I am a member of. Just be aware of what your kids are doing. There is another game that they are doing by choking themselves with rope. If you see ropes or anything like lots of belts etc, pay extra special caution to them. They know not the split second that their games can become deadly and fatal.

TxRose


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
8/20/2005 11:28 am

smileguyqc - You are so very welcome.... Sometimes, it is just the things that we haven't heard about that can sneak up on us in the least predictable moments. The most important thing is to remember to be an active part of your kid's lives and learn to recognize flags that they might be experimenting with death games.

(Disclaimer: This was a message for all the readers to read and serve as a reminder; it certainly wasn't directed to you by any means because I know that you take really active involvement with your kids. Just the same though, it never hopes to be reminded!!)


smileguyqc 53M

8/20/2005 6:29 am

Thanks for the information txrose, I had not heard of this one.


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
8/19/2005 12:12 pm

VoodooGuru1 - While DARE may be a complete joke in many instances, sometimes it is the only program serving as an outreach to these kids. If it saves some lives, then the program doesn't become a complete joke and a waste of time - don't you think????


rm_VoodooGuru1 49M
2053 posts
8/18/2005 2:02 pm

"Makes them promise they wont."

I'm sorry he lost his son, and intend no offence, but I wonder about how effective his parenting style was with regard to drugs. A compulsory promise is no promise at all, and can make the promiser view the promise with contempt.

His son probably justified his "dusting" by the fact that it wasn't illegal... "At least I'm not smoking pot, so I'm technically keeping that dumb promise."

But the pot wouldn't have killed him.

"They don't even have a dare or plus program there."

txrose, you may disagree, but every serious narcotics officer - cops who do this full time - whom I've ever talked to about DARE (and I know a lot of them... undercover guys in NYC and elsewhere) has told me that DARE is a complete joke, waste of tax revenue, ineffective, and worse things that I won't list because I don't want people to hate me.


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
8/18/2005 11:38 am

alice593 - It is like these kids have a death wish these days. Sometimes, I wonder if that is a result of having the necessity of the two income families these days and these kids are feeling left out during the working hours, and even after the work hours at times because the parents are too tird to do things with them b/c of exchausting days. There has to be a balance struck somewhere.... but, I am not certain where that is going to be. I wish I had all the answers....but, no one has really. We can just all work together to brainstorm and try to figure out feasible solutions.....

Ok. Enough of my soapbox... and, onward to other more positive things for the day.

TxRose


alice593 71M

8/18/2005 8:39 am

Really sad what other kids, who are suppose to be friends, can do to their friends. Getting highs that way is a sure fire way to get 6' LOW in the ground.


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
8/18/2005 3:41 am

Huntress7878 - You are so very welcome... if this posting prevents one needless death, I will certainly be happy; if it prevents more deaths, I will be even more ecstatic. We only have to get the word out via whatever avenue we can find at times. Please pass it along to friends that you know with children as well. Thanks!!!

TxRose


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
8/18/2005 3:39 am

CDSHELLEY - It is frustratingl, isn't it? I worked voluntarily for a non-profit that dealt with abused and neglected kids, as well as the gang ridden teens. The problems do exist...searching for an answer seems so very futile at times....

TxRose


__Huntress__ 55M/57F

8/17/2005 7:59 pm

Maybe "UndertheOakTre2" should have a branch fall on top of his head ... so as to knock some sense into him!

As a parent of pre-teens ... I thank you for this and deeply appreciate that you put it out there!


rm_CDSHELLEY 48T

8/17/2005 6:20 pm

kids are going to continue to die as long as there is a way to get high. Its futile. I worked with an agency and about got myself killed trying to...... well, you fill in the blanks. Its not stopping.


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
8/17/2005 5:34 pm

wyvernrose - This is true.... but, it pays to be aware what is happening out there so that one can recognize such hazzardous "games" that they are playing these days. Keep an eye out....

TxRose


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
8/17/2005 5:32 pm

UndertheOakTre2 - Ahhh... I am sorry, but this is a serious message to get out and I do know that there are many parents and grandparents on this site. Out of over 400 posts that I have made, I think that I might have made one other serious post; most of my posts, you have to admit, if you are a regular reader, are quite n the upbeat nature as a rule.

Thanks for reading the post....


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
8/17/2005 5:30 pm

sexyfitwoman - I am sure they were. The ones who choose to choke themselves are leaving scarring on their necks and damage to their eyes....as well.

TxRose


wyvernrose 38F
3895 posts
8/17/2005 4:21 pm

Jeez at least here it is just the classic petrol sniffing

but then kids that age can't buy it anyway....

all we can do is educate our kids....that's all we can do...

WyvernRose


UndertheOakTre2 41M
3 posts
8/17/2005 4:00 pm

Oh, bageebuss. Lighter's are dangerous, running across the freeway, yes. But, is that what we are here to talk about. I want to get away from the hectic days. I don't want to come here and be brought down by some sad story, the only good thing was that sexyfitwoman's pic was at the bottom of the page. Ty sexy, but, no more sad story's up there.


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