Industrious affects?  

rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
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7/17/2005 2:28 am

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Industrious affects?

I am reading texts for my philosophy class regarding the effect technology has on society & how society is affected by the technology.

Probably partly from a slight procrastination, tonight, though, an example comes to mind through a lesser known song that Bette Midler sang in the movie, Beaches, Oh Industry, which goes like this:


I am the captain and this is my shrine.
Lord of the manor. see what I leave behind.
River in flames, cities on fire.
Yes, I’m a relic trapped in the wire.

Hydrogen fuel, it burns so clean,
Throbs in the veins; a mother lovin’ machine.
She is my wife. her mechanical heart
Constantly serving ’til death do us part.

Now a glorious war draws to a close.
The yellow winds blow. and I have to know.
Oh industry, whatever will become of me?
Soon the cruel rains will start.
Is it true we must part company?
Oh industry, whatever will become of me?
What have I ever done?
Where did I go wrong?

Joined at the hip; pain, hunger and i,
Leave our gift to the world ’neath the phosphorous sky.
A labor of love is the truest of all.
But will I be forsaken after the fall?

Now a glorious war draws to a close.
The yellow winds blow. and I have to know.
Oh industry, whatever will become of me?
Nothing after the flood but the fire and the mud’s prophecy.
Oh industry, whatever will become of me?
Of me?

Industry, charity, faith, hope.
Industry, charity, faith, hope.
Industry, charity, faith, hope.
Industry, charity, faith, hope.
Industry, charity, faith, hope


Can you think of other possible examples???


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
7/18/2005 9:07 pm

ProtonicMan - Hmmmmm... subtities are my forte!!! (I was working in the legal field for about 15 years!! )


ProtonicMan 47M

7/18/2005 7:16 pm

txRose, That is a very subtle point. Thanks for clarifying.

TJ


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
7/18/2005 1:37 pm

frbnkslady - That is too bad. It is vastly unfortunate that the alzeheimer's folks don't really get to pick and choose what they do remember. However, I can understand why you were anxious for him to go!!


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
7/18/2005 1:35 pm

five_speed - It is hard to say.... there are many technological brains in this world... however, if they don't keep up with the latest and greatest, or the SOTA, where do they go... do their mind go to waste? or are they fast working on the next technological advancement from a clearly different approach, after getting off of the fast pace driven in the corporations.


frbnkslady 48F
6183 posts
7/18/2005 11:25 am

His was caused my a concrete silo falling on him.. this is waht the Drs told family. Told them it brought it on. He received minor injuries from the accident, minor concussion, and no lasting brain injury, but about 7 months afterwards, it started to develope. He would remember the boys, and start to punish them for something the had gotten into trouble for like 10 yrs before.. and if you knew these boys.....it was quite often..lol. Got to be where it was Momma J who was the only one who could handle him. Was sad to see such a proud hard working man disappear.

T




five_speed 41M

7/18/2005 10:18 am

Something I think about often, and I think this ties in with what you are asking, txrose, is how fast technology develops. Even now it advaces at such a rapid pace that few can keep up. I work in a technology field. It is my JOB to keep up with the holy SOTA (state of the art,) and I can barely do it. It's easy to get burnt out. I've seen it happen to many, and struggled against it myself. Working in technology is like being in a canoe on a fast river: even if you just want to stay in the same spot, you have to paddle your ass off. So what happens to the tech burnout? What do they do when they just can't keep up anymore, and then one day they realize the stuff they do know is completely and utterly obsolete, and by association, so are they?


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
7/18/2005 6:47 am

keithcancook - yep... and society moves forward - sometimes because of the technological advances -- and -- sometimes in spite of it!


keithcancook 60M
17718 posts
7/17/2005 8:56 pm

Certainly technology and mechanization has transformed us. Since we can feed more, there are more. When the resources dry up, we will transform again...


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
7/17/2005 8:47 pm

ProtonicMan - Actually, they are slightly different in that the first implies that we can have a choice about the development and release of technology and being able to have the foresight on the effect it will have upon society; the other implies that society has already been technology and then must now determine how to correct that effect.

Regarding the book, I will certainly keep that in mind...


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
7/17/2005 8:44 pm

frbnkslady - Hmmm... his was caused by a farming accident? How so????
BTW, okay to get wrapped up in someone else's comments too... AND, btw, I understand about small town values. We still have much of that here in Texas; heck, I was raised around cattle, corn and maize... Industries do try to sneak in...thinking that they can "get away with it" in the smaller communities; glad to see that your environmental advocates are strong in your area!!!


rm_txrose4uNTX 57F
3289 posts
7/17/2005 8:40 pm

alice593 - This is often the case. My Grandma got alzheimers when she was about 89 and died 2-3 years later. Alzheimers is an interesting disease. She recognized me... and throughout life she always told me that she would know me no matter what because she had known me the longest of us grandkids...and I spent so much time with her. Towards the end, she didn't recognize my siblings...or my cousins..... and she identified my daughter with my name because she was a mini-me when I was the same age.

Technology has enabled a greater length of survival; but, in some cases, it may not be the best idea. Look at the Terry Shiavo casematter.... very controversial indeed.

Sorry to hear about the turmoil you had when you were being raised. At least, you were adopted by family members; many orphans do not have that advantage.


ProtonicMan 47M

7/17/2005 6:50 pm

OOPS! This time I'll get the colors right.

I am reading texts for my philosophy class regarding the effect technology has on society & how society is affected by the technology.

OK, I just reread your blog intro a bit more closely... The way this is written, doesn't it say the same thing?

effect of TECHNOLOGY ---> on SOCIETY
SOCIETY is affected by <--- TECHNOLOGY

Back to the topic, I just started reading an interesting book on a subset of the society topic. The book just came out, and is called "The Sexual Revolution 2.0" by Regina Lynn, who also writes a FANTASTIC weekly column about sex and technology on wired dot com. I know your time is scant right now, but it might fit nicely with your studies.

Cheers,
TJ


ProtonicMan 47M

7/17/2005 6:49 pm

I am reading texts for my philosophy class regarding the effect technology has on society & how society is affected by the technology.

OK, I just reread your blog intro a bit more closely... The way this is written, doesn't it say the same thing?

effect of TECHNOLOGY ---> on SOCIETY
SOCIETY is affected by <--- TECHNOLOGY

Back to the topic, I just started reading an interesting book on a subset of the society topic. The book just came out, and is called "The Sexual Revolution 2.0" by Regina Lynn, who also writes a FANTASTIC weekly column about sex and technology on wired dot com. I know your time is scant right now, but it might fit nicely with your studies.

Cheers,
TJ


frbnkslady 48F
6183 posts
7/17/2005 12:51 pm

Sorry Tx, was sidetracked after reading Alices post. I have always lived in small towns and communities till now, where I live in the huge, triving, spralling, over-populated town of Fairbanks, AK. LMAO
NO, is good here. Still has small town values. But we have more industry up here then what most give us credit for. No igloo manufactures though...lol.
We do have petroleum, fishing, welding, plastics... but we seem to have a handle on most up here. They take care of the land more so then people from 'outside' realize. Outside meaning lower 48. Most of the companies here are very enviromentaly aware.

T




frbnkslady 48F
6183 posts
7/17/2005 12:47 pm

Sounds like one helluva man Alice..Glad he found you. I had an ex BF whos father developed Alz. and it tore the family aprt. He goet reallll mean with it. Was terrrible to watch. I am not sure if he is even still alove. Damn, would be close to 20 yrs since he got if so. His was caused from a farm accident. Farming Industry..

T




alice593 71M

7/17/2005 8:42 am

Have to explain something. He was my father through adoption. My real father died when I was six months old. My mother remarried, thus I had a step father. She died when I was six years old, and my step father kept his daughter (which he had with my mother) and put my older sister and I in an orphanage. We were there a year, when my mother's sister and her husband adopted us. This last father is the one I am talking about.


alice593 71M

7/17/2005 8:37 am

That was good. I think this may be an example, but not sure.

Oh I am to retire from labor and trials. Now I relax from time clocks and bosses. But what will I do, with a life with time on my hands? Do I make things, or do I go places I have never seen. If I get bored, whatever shall I do, and how do I keep my mind keen.

A lot of men retire, but not used to a relaxing life they end up passing away for some reason. My father retired and made things, and worked with retarded kids. He helped them make things, but when he got alzheimers he couldn't take just sitting around. Every time he wanted to say something, he would forget and start crying because he forgot what he was going to say. It was hard for me to watch, but he didn't suffer long because he passed away less than a year after he got it.


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