Do We Need To Start Using Nukes In Prison?  

rm_talldarkavg1 105M
15586 posts
10/7/2005 6:59 am
Do We Need To Start Using Nukes In Prison?

As you probably already know, I believe in equal opportunity. No restrictions, no holds barred. At some point in time, I offend just about everybody. Yes, I am an equal opportunity offender. I saw a piece on the news this morning that needs a closer look.

Not too far from me, in Michigan, a creep was on trial for shaking his 2 year old son violently, and then punching the child repeatedly in the head. The child dies as a result of the attack. The creep is getting life in prison without the possibility of parole. Is this right?

You'd think by now I would know exactly where I stand on certain issues but the death penalty thing has me stumped. Let's face it, prison reform is not even close to working. Repeat offenders remain repeat offenders over and over. Certainly there are exceptions...but very few.

Also understand that there are certain creeps I have no use for. Child molesters/abusers, , physical abusers in general, and murderers. Sorry...no prison for these creeps...you're outta here. In these cases I'm thinking I do NOT want my tax money to support them in prison for the next however many years.

In my city of Mishawaka, we had a murder trial that resulted in the guilty creep being executed last week. He was a habitual wife beater. She finally gathered the courage to prosecute him. He was found guilty and sentenced to a lengthy prison stay and a restraining order was issued so that IF he was ever paroled she would be notified. A year and a half or so after he began his sentence he was allowed an 8 hour pass to look for work or something. The State of Indiana failed to notify her he was out. Sure enough, he immediately went from Indianapolis to Mishawaka, broke into her house, and beat her to death as 2 elderly neighbors pleaded for help and for him to stop. He was arrested on the spot and tried.

I guess what I wrestle with is do we need the death penalty automatically for certain crimes? Rehab does not work. No amount of rehab in the world stop child molesters. Sex offenders and abusers are not rehabed. I wonder if we have laws stating....IF you are convicted of this...you're dead. Is that a deterant? If nothing else...there would be less creeps my tax dollars are feeding for the next 50 years.


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frbnkslady 48F
6183 posts
10/7/2005 8:43 am

You know what really burns my ass on something like this. There are a lot of women and men on death row and serving life terms who actually finally fought back and stopped the terror. They tried the legal routes and like this woman, no complete protection. So they are the ones who are punished. Not like they weren't punished enough to begin with.
I know you shouldn't take justice into your own hands, but sometimes you are pushed past that edge. Especially when you have asked and received none. T

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countrycookin4us 40F

10/7/2005 9:34 am

Death to the dirtbags.


rm_1hotwahine 63F
21091 posts
10/7/2005 11:36 am

I get a little politically incorrect about this as well, but for me it's the expense issue, in regards to the death penalty. I think it costs taxpayers something like $2 million in legal fees alone. No, I don't think the death penalty is a deterent. It sounds cold, but in the crimes that you've named, I see a practical need to simply excise that particular 'cancer' from our society so that it isn't repeated. That simple. DNA testing has contributed to really clearing up my confusion about this issue.

Also, I just pitched a screenplay idea to MzHuny, who is either reading the same paper as you or hooked into your beta waves. [post 110706]

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rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/7/2005 11:42 am

T that is a huge dilemma! I understand that no system is perfect...but jeez. We need some major league revamping in several areas. And really soon.

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rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/7/2005 11:43 am

Jiggly I'm thinking public stoning. I saw a couple hippies doing that.

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rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/7/2005 11:44 am

Country...death to dirtbags it is. I'm thinking not only dirtbags, but soiledbags too.

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rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/7/2005 11:45 am

Anemone this is true. Fortunately these cases are very very few. DNA has come a long way in both freeing innocent and convicting guilty.

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duststormdiva 51F
6854 posts
10/7/2005 11:50 am

The justice system certainly is not just. In my humble opinion it is there to protect the perpetrators not the violated. See my post on MzHuny's blog today. It sickens me.

DustStormDiva


dano6332 56M

10/7/2005 12:42 pm

JDLA2 has a great debate going on just this topic in his blog.

Well worth the read as the man is some sort of Einstein of the Internet.

Tall I agree with all you said but simply have no answers for this. There are no solutions and I read Mz Hunys post on this and just felt terrible. To lose a loved one or to even have your child attacked by scum is disgusting. To find that our justice system has failed to protect us makes things even worse.


rm_DaphneR 58F
7938 posts
10/7/2005 2:05 pm

In the case of a lot of child molesters, those that get sent to prison usually spend the time in solitary because the other inmates will use their own form of justice on them. Many get killed or abused themselves when out in the general population. It sounds strange to think that people in prison for murder or or what have you have a certain code of honor and to have hurt or molested a child you become a target when thrown in with them.

I still believe in an eye for an eye. You kill someone, you die, and it shouldn't only be if you kill a cop you go up for an automatic death penalty charge.

Have tongue, will use it. Repeatedly.


rm_luke69iner 48M
3275 posts
10/7/2005 4:37 pm

Kill are proven Child molesters/abusers, execute them quick without mercy

i agree with Huny


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A persona che mai tornasse al mondo,
Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse.
Ma perciocche giammai di questo fondo
Non torno vivo alcun, s'i'odo il vero,
Senza tema d'infamia ti rispondo
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ThumbChickStool 33F

10/7/2005 5:06 pm

I'm of two minds on the death penalty. There are certain crimes that the guilty party most certainly deserves to die. And there are other times where I feel the death penalty is a bit overkill.

And look what happens once someone is convicted and given the death penalty. They stay on death row for ever and ever because they keep appealing. Why? Why waste our money on keeping someone alive who is sentenced to death?

I feel anyone who did anything to a child deserves to be in prison. And to let the other inmates have their fun on him. Child abusers/molesters are the lowest of the low in the prison community. People who have been convicted of serious sex crimes should also suffer the same fate. Take them all out to the exercise yard and let the rest of the inmates have some fun. Cruel and unusual punishment, maybe. But it certainly can't be any worse than the mental, emotional, and physical damage the perpetrator inflicted on their victim. I was , and I don't wish the scumbag was dead. I want in prison. I want for him to violated as I was. I want someone to remind him on a daily basis "you did this to someone, know we're doing it to you."

But that's just what I think.


readytolay_3
(What the fuck is this shit..?? *rolls eyes*)
105F

10/8/2005 8:20 am

The only GOOD dirtbag is a DEAD one...Their civil right's FUCK their civil rights!!!!

Ready


rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/8/2005 10:49 am

It's a definite hot button Wahine. I just do not get the expenses part either. Remember the guy who killed Jeffery Dahlmer in prison? He was serving a life sentence with NO possibility of parole. He kills Jeffery. They spend almost a million dollars on a trial that gives him a second life sentence with no possibility for parole. Hmm, was justice served?

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rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/8/2005 10:51 am

Diva I agree. Rights are rights. But lately it seems that the big money attorny firms exploit this in the way of loopholes and free people that need to go bye-bye. Not right at all.

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rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/8/2005 10:53 am

Dano, jeez am I about to sound like Archie Bunker...the system just isn't working. Something needs to be fine tuned and nobody is trying to fix it. Frustrating indeed.

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rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/8/2005 10:54 am

Huny I am flattered when I consider that maybe I think like you. However...you thinking like me gets me worried for you!

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rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/8/2005 10:55 am

Luke I have to agree. Justice is supposed to be swift. It rarely is.

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rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/8/2005 10:57 am

Native, first my I extend my heartfelt condolence on your violation. I think you may be on to something. An eye for an eye seemed to work before lawyers didn't it?

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rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/8/2005 11:00 am

Gix it is not right. There shouldn't be priviledges to prisoners. Prison should be like it was in the movie Midnight Express. Someplace you DO NOT want to experience...ever. Not a country club!

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rm_talldarkavg1 105M
10172 posts
10/8/2005 11:01 am

Ready...I'm leaning very strongly toward your side.

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rm_1hotwahine 63F
21091 posts
10/8/2005 5:22 pm

public stonings...hippies...LOL...now I get it.

My weekends are boring enough that I go back and re-read everyone's blog. This really helps my pre-menopausal delayed thought processing

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slidein2meplz 62F
1994 posts
10/8/2005 11:18 pm

I think there should be an automatic/no delay sudden death to those who are convicted of certain crimes. ** there are so many horrible crimes...that would justify it: mass murderers, serial killers, child killers...to name a few. **
No appeals allowed--nothing. No last meal, no opportunity to say good bye to anyone...No last rites, no visit's with religious figures...NOTHING...just taken to a room and shot in the head or killed by whatever means the victim's family wanted. I think once something like that was established...and once criminals realized that if they kill someone...and they get caught...and they are found guilty...they will die...and the only amount of time between hearing the guilty verdict and actual death would only be the amount of time it took them to take the monster to the "room"... and that's it... 15-20 min's tops. Done deal. .... NEXT guilty person...Done deal...NEXT......

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mehappy4u21 53F

10/9/2005 9:08 pm

I'm with you Tall, any and all sexual offenders, especially pedifiles, need to be executed... You're right rehab DOESN'T work, the stats totally prove it... I'm also sick of my tax dollars going to support three meals, tv, college education, and conjical visits to these bastards that are such a waste and not worthy of being called human!!!


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