The Beast is back!  

rm_iwannatellu 45F
849 posts
7/26/2006 12:45 pm

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The Beast is back!

For those of you who don't know, I am big a WWE wrestling fan. Huge. I think it is because these men are phenomenal athletes in superb physical shape. They are extremely fit, and very tough, and are able to take quite a lot of punishment in the name of entertainment. Plus, they just look damn fine.

Make no mistake, I know that it is probably more closely choreographed than a dance, but I just thoroughly enjoy it. It is better than a soapie, and there are better story lines too.

What is more, tonight saw the return of my all-time-favourite - Batista. Woohoo.

He was out for a few months requiring surgery on his arm due to an injury caused by Mark Henry (billed as the world's largest athlete [which just means in America]), and he was just a tad annoyed.

He called him out into the ring, and then got medieval on his ass.

After a few punches to the face, he threw him into and over the steel stairs, following up with a blow to the head with the top part of the same stairs. While Mark was lying on the floor, and the officials were trying to restore calm, Batista applied a steel chair to Mark's back swiftly no less than 6 times.

Needless to say, I think he was still slightly angry at Mark - the injury led to Dave having to step down from his title, and I am sure that hurt him.

But he is back now. Watch this space, I know I will...


rm_iwannatellu 45F
933 posts
7/26/2006 1:17 pm

Foto - okay, sometimes you can tell it's fake, but not at this level. These guys are world class athletes.

The punches are not for real, and a lot of the stuff is just short of serious (they could do some serious damage if they really wnated to), but the falling and throwing, and jumping off the ring is real.

As you say, it is entertaining.


DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
7/26/2006 2:29 pm

    Quoting rm_iwannatellu:
    Foto - okay, sometimes you can tell it's fake, but not at this level. These guys are world class athletes.

    The punches are not for real, and a lot of the stuff is just short of serious (they could do some serious damage if they really wnated to), but the falling and throwing, and jumping off the ring is real.

    As you say, it is entertaining.
wanna,

Calling these guys world class athletes is a reach at best.

Most of them are using performance enhancing drugs of all types, not to mention the ones who are hooked on painkillers needed to perform.

They aren't that massive because they are athletes, it's strictly due to weightlifting and drugs.

Being an athlete deems you have some type of cardiovascular ability to perform some athletic feat.....ie football, basketball, baseball.

These guys perform in a ring, which entail moving their bodies within the confines of a limited space, not some long distance.

What they do is entertainment.

They lift weights to get that size and strength.

They use drugs to maintain that size.

That's not an athlete, at least in the standard measure of the word.

I am a powerlifter, but I don't call myself an athlete...

The difference is that I don't and would not throw myself around a ring with other men.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


derwolf55 61M

7/27/2006 3:36 am

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rm_iwannatellu 45F
933 posts
7/27/2006 8:59 am

DIV
you are absolutely correct. They are not world class, and perhaps are not "athletes" in the strictest sense of the word. Perhaps I used too strong a phrase, but was merely trying to get a point across to foto that there are definately different levels of wrestling. I find that the showmanship, the camaraderie, and even the respect they show each other from time to time is great fun. But there are definately different levels, and IMHO, WWE is one of the best.

For example, the local wrestling here is so pathetic you can't even laugh at it.

Plus, drugs or no - they do have to have dedication to get to that level.

Then, there is the benefit of the story line... Just add a few car chases and it would be a real winner!

And did I mention they look good? LOL


Huny
I agree - the day Rey made champ was a great day. He is a real crowd pleaser.


Dusty
Taker has some serious competition in Khali - an even bigger guy than he is. It is ridiculous actually.
You guys are ahead of us, so perhaps you have seen how the match went. I think that the match will be an interesting one, but my money is on Taker to win.


silverballs2006 51M
40 posts
7/29/2006 5:01 am

sorry hunni
i thinks its all cobblers
but if it makes you happy enjoy it xx


rm_iwannatellu 45F
933 posts
7/29/2006 8:15 am

    Quoting silverballs2006:
    sorry hunni
    i thinks its all cobblers
    but if it makes you happy enjoy it xx
I just love seeing the men with the great bodies throwing each other around. I find it all very amusing.

Ha ha.

xxx


SingleWarrior 52M

7/29/2006 3:27 pm

Over in my blog, I posted why I am called Warrior.

The Ultimate Warrior was one of the minor reasons. Batista was also a huge fan of mine... errrrmmmm I mean the Warrior's


SingleWarrior 52M

7/29/2006 3:35 pm

Div, regarding wrestlers as atheletes:

A number of years ago, I was stationed at Ft. Benning, GA.

The Midnight Rockers of the AWA (later to be known as The Rockers of WWF/E, and even later to be known as single wrestlers Shawn Michaels and marty Janetty, were there to perform in the ring.

Also going on in the area were some gymnastic compititions.

BOTH Marty and Shawn participated in the gymnastics "fun/demo" time, and performed VERY well.

Did it take athletism to do that? Yes.

Many pro rasslers are ALSO former football players. Are football players athaletes? Yes.

Is doing repeated backflips/twists/etc off a ring post athletic? Yes.

So essentially, many *are* atheletes.

And not all are built like Batista either.

Some are small, some are fat.

And they still do athletic moves


DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
7/29/2006 10:58 pm

    Quoting SingleWarrior:
    Div, regarding wrestlers as atheletes:

    A number of years ago, I was stationed at Ft. Benning, GA.

    The Midnight Rockers of the AWA (later to be known as The Rockers of WWF/E, and even later to be known as single wrestlers Shawn Michaels and marty Janetty, were there to perform in the ring.

    Also going on in the area were some gymnastic compititions.

    BOTH Marty and Shawn participated in the gymnastics "fun/demo" time, and performed VERY well.

    Did it take athletism to do that? Yes.

    Many pro rasslers are ALSO former football players. Are football players athaletes? Yes.

    Is doing repeated backflips/twists/etc off a ring post athletic? Yes.

    So essentially, many *are* atheletes.

    And not all are built like Batista either.

    Some are small, some are fat.

    And they still do athletic moves
I'm sorry, Warrior, but I disagree.

Being a former soldier and now a powerlifter, I can attest that these guys are not athletes.

I didn't even consider myself an athlete when I was a soldier but I was alot more athletic than any of these wrestlers are.

Deaths in wrestling are mainly attributed to heart disease, steroid/drug use and lack of any cardiovascular exercise.

Athletes don't usually die from lack of heart health.

See my point?

I wouldn't consider all football players as athletes.

The skill positions, yes.

The OF/DL line positions, not as much.

How many fat out of shape offensive and defensive linemen have you seen in the NFL?

TONS.

I rest my case.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


SingleWarrior 52M

7/29/2006 11:08 pm

    Quoting DIVISION77:
    I'm sorry, Warrior, but I disagree.

    Being a former soldier and now a powerlifter, I can attest that these guys are not athletes.

    I didn't even consider myself an athlete when I was a soldier but I was alot more athletic than any of these wrestlers are.

    Deaths in wrestling are mainly attributed to heart disease, steroid/drug use and lack of any cardiovascular exercise.

    Athletes don't usually die from lack of heart health.

    See my point?

    I wouldn't consider all football players as athletes.

    The skill positions, yes.

    The OF/DL line positions, not as much.

    How many fat out of shape offensive and defensive linemen have you seen in the NFL?

    TONS.

    I rest my case.

    DIV
I am a former military guy and a weight lifter too. Has no bearing on my reply about those in a different field

The deaths have nothing to do with whether or not they're atheletes or not.

Baseball players, football players, tennis players, basketball players... ALL of them are under the steroid microscope. Wrestling is just singled out more so than the others.


rm_iwannatellu 45F
933 posts
7/30/2006 2:43 am

DIV, SingleWarrior
Cool. A debate.

Good points on both sides.

I will simply add this:
I believe that within the WWE ranks there are levels of skill and ability within the ring. There are those who can perform the more gymnasit feets, and those who clearly cannot. There are those who are merely there because they are big and strong (Undertaker, Mark Henry, Kane, Umaga, and Viscera, Big Show (although he has gone to ECW), and a few others), and there are those who have more physical ability (Shawn Michaels, Rey Mysterio, Chris Benoit [still my ALL TIME FAV of all the stars], and a few others.

Either way, I find it extremely entertaining.


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