Random Alcohol Tests  

rm_iwannatellu 45F
849 posts
8/9/2006 1:09 pm

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8/11/2006 12:16 am

Random Alcohol Tests

My company has various clients, and one of the clients I work for at the moment is a large mining company.

As part of the safety procedures (which are truly impressive, and zero tolerance is the name of the game).

At each mine site, there are very strict procedures that each person has to follow, and failure to adhere to every rule, no matter how small the infringement may seem is viewed in a very serious light, and may lead to disciplinary procedures, and even job loss.

One of the procedures that has been introduced at the Head Office is the random alcohol testing. The rule is that if you have been out to lunch and had any alcohol at lunch, you were not allowed back onto the premises, under ANY circumstances, for ANY reason, whatsoever.

A few months ago, they introduced a system whereby at random times throughout the day - sometimes starting first thing, often after lunch, and so on - where you would have to put your hand into a box and pull out a ball. If you drew a white one, you could go. If you drew the orange ball, you had to go into the room on the side, and blow into a breathalyser thingy to test your alcohol level. If it registered above a certain level, they would wait 10 minutes, and do it again. If it registered again, then it was grounds an immediate disciplinary hearing.

This is all good stuff, and goes to prove the company's commitment to zero harm, etc, however, there is one thing that disturbs me.

I have seen with my own eyes, how the executives refuse to take part in the random testing, how they are rude to the security guards, and how they cause unhappiness for those who are then caught.

I think it is a poor show, and I got into trouble for speaking up. Because I am not an employee, I have no right to speak in the same ways as the employees, but feel just as strongly as they do. It is either for everyone, or for no one. Surely, safety is safety, and that should include everyone.

Pepole who refuse to submit to this random test do a number of things:

>They make the guards seem ineffective, and that embarrasses them,
>They make the others not want to take the test,
>They make those who are busted not feel like the system is fair
>They bring the company and its systems into disrepute
>They cause dissention in the ranks, and spread rebellion

I believe that this is something that should be nipped in the bud before it gets out of hand.

If you were in my position, what would you do?


TechSteve 49M

8/9/2006 2:11 pm

There is nothing you can do about it unless this testing is more than just company policy.

Is it a law ? If there is a law, then you can contact somebody.

Security guards being caught in the middle and being disrespected happens in a lot of places.

Do these guards work for that company ? A guard who works for an outside company usually has a hard time getting respected.

I feel bad for the guards.

Steve


rm_Benkai7 55M
2358 posts
8/9/2006 3:10 pm

Dear "iwannatellu".

... working under the influence alcohol, drugs and even some medications is not only dangerous to the person itself but to any other person like colleges, employees and machinery ...

The company management undermine it´s own authoritys by acting against the rules. Disrespecting the own company, the rules, the guards and the employees by this strange kind of marketing strategies. This is typical for authoritarian, bullheaded, ignorant and unwise leadership and management. The executives are part of the team. No teamwork = no team play. To me a very unwise and inefficient way to run business and causes trouble.

Rules are for every- and anyone, death might be an exception.
If you can get high enough they might be able to understand.

Benkai7 - just my opinion & experience ...


T_A_B_75 41M

8/9/2006 8:22 pm

I agree that it should be everyone but trying to implement that is a very lengthy procedure and you may not even get the desired result. Are you sure you want to become involved with that?

That is exactly how our society is set up.


sunshinekzn 57F

8/10/2006 6:07 am

I agree with you that everyone should under go the test. The sad fact is that often the bosses do go out with clients and do have a few drinks with clients. The normal employees do not not meet clients and just go drinking. It is hell when a employee comes back from lunch drunk. I first day as a boss my one teller came back very drunk. We were short staffed and I could not afford to take him off the counter. I stood in his box - watching his every move.


sunshinekzn 57F

8/10/2006 6:09 am

    Quoting sunshinekzn:
    I agree with you that everyone should under go the test. The sad fact is that often the bosses do go out with clients and do have a few drinks with clients. The normal employees do not not meet clients and just go drinking. It is hell when a employee comes back from lunch drunk. I first day as a boss my one teller came back very drunk. We were short staffed and I could not afford to take him off the counter. I stood in his box - watching his every move.
Sorry I should read my answers before I post them. I type to fast and end up making a mess! Forgive me please!


silverballs2006 51M
40 posts
8/10/2006 9:17 am

i totaly agree with you , but there have always been 1 set of rules for workers and another for the bosses , but you got to remember
these twats dont live in the real world and think they are above the law how many time have you heard a boss get hurt /killed working
its always the poor worker ... xxx


rm_iwannatellu 45F
933 posts
8/10/2006 11:43 am

blonde367
The union... that would put the fear into them... Good point - neer thought of that.


TechSteve
Yes - The guards are hte ones who are the most affected by this I feel. It is just a poor show all round. Thanks for visiting.


Benkai7
Good advice, as usual...
Thanks


T_A_B_75
Probably not, but is this going to be one of those, if only things?


fotogod
Thanks. Sounds like yoau re speaking from experience?


Sunshine
No worries, I understand perfectly. Thanks.


Silver
very true


DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
8/10/2006 7:03 pm

There should be an Equal Opportunity office that deals with these type of situations as is the case with every large corporation.

I suggest you look in to that.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


rm_iwannatellu 45F
933 posts
8/11/2006 12:16 am

Thanks DIV
I will ask around some more...

Iwanna


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