Dreams and Nightmares  

rm_hotmamaNcols 39F
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5/24/2006 5:40 pm

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Dreams and Nightmares

"We all dream of things we love, things we hate and things that confuse us." They say the average person dreams once or twice a night during the REM portion of their sleep. REM occurs about 3-4 hours into the sleep cycle. Some dreams are remembered and some not. I suppose it depends on how the dream has impacted the individual, who knows? Being an insomniac that sleeps an average of 4 hours means I rarely proceed into REM sleep, so theoretically I shouldn't dream.

As for nightmares and reoccurring dreams, I experienced those when my cycle was normal. I would tell you more but it deviates from this topic.

Here's the news. I fell asleep in the middle of the day at my desk. Thank God it was my desk at home! It was for only twenty minutes or so, but in that time, REM had me dreaming/nightmaring. Isn't this supposed to be impossible?

Here's a summary of the dream:

I was working as a bartender in an elite nightclub ran by vampires. I was probably the only human there. And I knew it but wasn't afraid.
All of a sudden, I was having words with a particular vampire who then violently threw me into a cooler giving me a concussion. When I saw the blood running, in the background I could see all of them hissing at the smell of it and I woke up.

What the hell? I know, I know. Must have been something I saw on TV. Can any of you give me insight into what the hell this dream means? I NEVER dream about anything so it must MEAN something, right?

jd29992z 54M
3888 posts
5/24/2006 7:01 pm

First of all I can dream the second I fall asleep. I will look at the clock fall asleep have a wild crazy dream wake up and look at the clock and only 20 minutes went by this happens to me all the time almost nightly so I don't know where they get that 3 to 4 hours I have heard that also. I think they are full of it.

Second your dream well I have some of the most wild dreams possible (Yours almost sounds like one of mine) Some phic people say there are reasons for dreams and they mean something (maybe justify their existence). Hmmmmm I have to say that when you dream it is a chance for your subconscious to be free to empress it's self. Now you don't sleep much your subconscious is dieing to express it's self. I have dreams that would give a shrink a lifetime of books. They almost run like a movie that I am not only watching but I am in and part of and when I wake up I remember every part they are vivid and very real.

It sounds like you had a very cool dream though. I could tell you some wild dream stories if you would like to hear them. Glad to hear you had a dream that would be the thing I miss the most if I could not sleep. See you later JD

rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 5/25/2006 7:51 am:
I talked to my friend Stef about it and in retelling the dream, I realized the vamps were hissing in fear of my blood, the exact opposite of what would be expected. I wasn't afraid for a reason?

out_for_a_ride 35M

5/24/2006 11:43 pm

REM stands for rapid eye movement. In general for the average person it takes the mind and body 3-4 hours to reach a state of sleep so heavy that your consciousness lets go of it's grip on your physical world. It's not impossible nor rare to slip that deep into rest so quickly, it's just not the average response. When we do reach this state there is a lot that's happening and so heres a little about it. Once our mind has let go of the thoughts that holds our focus in a conscious state of exsistence, our mind no longer participates solely in the physical world. It expands beyond our consciously defined dimensions into a realm where all dimensions are one (if that's confusing, think about time and space and the relevance it holds in our brain while we're sleeping. all dimensions are defined only by the conscious mind). This is where our subconscious does express itself, but not for the sake of creativity, there is absolutely meaning and substance behind every dream no matter how fucked it may seem. In this state of mind, beyond the conscious world (which i should mention is where our subconscious lives even when we're conscious), our subconscious is constantly gathering the information we need consciously to take us where we individually want to go with our lives. In a dream state, our minds are more receptive of this information than when it's being delivered while we're awake, well because obviously once we're awake our conscious mind consumes most of our focus for participating in our physical world. So anyway, we're out there collecting this info while we're asleep, and our dreams are the way our brains filter the information for us to see where we're currently headed and what we need to change/not change to find our way to where we want to be. So then one might wonder why it is that some dreams end up fucked up like vampires tossing you around and what it could possibly mean. Here's the skinny on the way your brain portrays to your consciousness what your subconscious is trying to reveal. Dreams are influenced most heavily by the current overall emotional state of consciousness we maintain. By this I mean, if overall you've been feeling depressed your dreams are depressing, or gloomy, or something synonymical. Or if you're angry, your dreams are hostile or again something very similar to the feeling of angry. This is the first step to deciphering what your dreams mean. So for instance, you knew you weren't afraid. Since this was such a prominent realization by your consciousness that it's almost certainly indicating that you should have felt fear in such surroudings. You didn't however, so in your lack of fear you're bold and mix it up with a vamp only to have your fearlessness trumped by the expression of it's will over yours, violently throwing you into a cooler (is your back against the wall now), most likely dazed by the concussion, and ending with the life threating fear that suddenly jerks you awake. As for what this means in your life, here's my generalization without knowing the specifics of your life, which you will obviously be able to plug in on your own. Either you're currently facing, or will in the future face these circumstances, where you allow your fearlessness (a trait driven by pride and ego) to grow beyond your control, and ultimately you're going to (metaphorically speaking) be thrown into a corner, back against the wall, eating your own pride so to speak, and possibly quite fearful for your life as well. The trickiest part though is that in a dream state theres no sense of time, so it's hard to know where it starts and ends. The beginning where you overflex your pride could have already happened, and without remorse you might be headed toward the backlash unless you change. Or it might be happening now and you don't consciously see it so your subconscious is trying to arouse an awareness in hopes of changing the outcome. Or it hasn't happened yet and your subsconscious is trying to change to avoid it because if you don't, by the time it does happen, you might not have another opportunity to alter the outcome.....it's such a broad area at this point that the only way to filter information through your dreams with precise clarity as to the direction you're currently headed is to clear the mind by meditating on positive thoughts before you end each day....i know that was a long response, and i hope it doesn't sound too crazy for you to instill some faith in it because i assure you whole heartedly that i know this to be true...i've been this clairvoyant (to see dreams vividly as they end up happening in my life prior to realizing that i could change the outcome, at which point i'd make the change and the dream would change accordingly until all was as it should be and then the dream would then cease to recur) since i can remember having a memory (roughly like 4 or 5). no joke, give it a chance, only you'll know you're crazy when you find it works...lol...no but seriously, what have you got to lose? more sleep? lol...i'm kidding, i'm kidding, we've established i can empathize with a fellow insomniac, i just felt this response (which i'm still dragging out) was so seriously long that i should throw in the humor....best wishes


rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 5/25/2006 8:04 am:
I can admit in my almost 30 years of existence, not alot scares me anymore. Except deep water. Long story. But you are right, I do not feel fear when in dangerous situations and among shady individuals when I should be. Perhaps ego/pride is what drives the contempt I feel instead of fear.

3d60 47M

5/25/2006 12:45 am

er........ come on dreams are just static ....our interpretation of them is about as conclusive as throwing a bunch of sticks/ stones/ cookies on the floor and determining the future........sound familiar, fertile imagination, media drenched world = shite in head. i'm not denying that consciousness can exist in this state but to let it form an opinion or set out a path in the waking world is the blind leading the blind ( in my humble opinion ) out for a ride is just that riding nowhere its all due to interpretation.....whats important is you and why you feel you need to find any meaning in random mutatingness.

before I get called a prurient deluded wanker ....heres a story for you. My mother woke to find her husband standing on the other side of their bed she sat up to greet him ....only it wasn't him the second her mind acknowledged this the figures arm reached forward and seemingly tried to grasp her in an anguished kind of way inches from her face. Whereupon it disappeared in to ever decreasing circles and vanished. She was disturbed and was still in some ways frightened when she told me days later. I pushed her to describe in detail and account factually the details...yes she was awake yes she was conscious of it. We sat their in silence....I thought about it, it upset her.....suddenly it came to me....mum he was grabbing at you not just because he appeared to you but you appeared to him!!!!!....he was going what the fuck is that, whilst you were going who are you?.....cool eh.....my mother passed in to someone Else's dimension and consciousness. while in bed, I told her to hang a sign around her neck saying "don't worry i'll be going soon ".....

......why am I telling you this well apart from its cool expands the mind gives credence to the edges and borders of our and others perceptions.

This could be taken in any other number of ways, we live like blinkered flies in this world, we are surrounded by illusions we dare not or cannot question, for instance within all matter exists chemical and electrical links, between them is space all stuff is over a third empty space, we exists in a lattice which we make solid.......think on that and all thoughts of vampires and such pale all me juv me XX

rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 5/25/2006 8:09 am:
Wow, that's spooky. I could tell you a couple of creepy tales of my own. But I will save it for Halloween. I could be making more of this dream than what I should. It just such a rare occurrence for me to dream that I was taken aback by it.

Sailor376 62M
2288 posts
5/25/2006 5:36 am

Hello Hot Mama,
As described to me ,dreams are the sweepings, the left overs of the mind. The bits and pieces that did not fit are made a place for. Defrag the hard drive. In my own narrow experience they can reuse scenarios from some previous happening, now embellished with the detritus of today or yesterday. Most mean nothing, absolutely nothing.
There are the occasional recurrent dreams or nightmares. Some portion of your mind or memory is trying to tell you something directly or in symbols. I my case, a dream that had reoccurred many times was suddenly gone forever once the explanation became clear to me. An insight. I have one now that reappears infrequently. If I ever figure out what or why, it will most likely never come back again. I won't worry about it, just keep it on a back burner some where and when the proper stew ingredient is thrown in it will become clear.
All creatures dream. My son's dog certainly does. (Probably CATCHES the car, drags it off and buries it.) And if needs be your dream or mine will get stuffed into what few minutes of sleep are allowed, schedule or normal be damned. Yours may have been a small fear the the persistent POS on the barstool might exact a revenge for the deserved rebuff. Had not the constraints of society or the arrival of your friend, you may have been in danger. Somewhere inside you knew it. This is a pretty thin limb I am walking out on right now and I think I hear a cracking sound.
Your sleeplessness may have a similar,waiting to be uncovered, explanation. More likely you know why and just can't do anything about it right now. Just a form of worry. Certainly in my case.
The drop of reality in this pond of discussion, I read research, I have some small experience to draw upon, but I am no expert. My bit of drivel this AM is only my poor attempt at reassuring a friend.
Sleep well sweet princess and 'may clouds of angels bear thee to thy rest'. You are known and loved by each of us.

rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 5/25/2006 8:19 am:
My insomnia could be the problem here. I probably need to dream more often so the subconscious can finally express itself. Maybe then, I can defrag this hard drive.

3d60 47M

5/25/2006 10:50 am

Sleep .....aw come on you need sleep...lightweight......shucks...CAUSE YOU NEED SLEEP!!!

slimcountryboy2 38M
46 posts
5/25/2006 3:07 pm

Sounds like something from "From Dusk till Dawn"... I think that was the name of it... The George Clooney movie, with Salma Hayek and Quentin Tarentino in it...Rodriguez was the director I think... Maybe the vampires represent men
Yeah, I'm clueless.... But it's good you dream though... I've heard you would die if you didn't ... Don't know what the hell that means....
I like your new picture (I think it's new). Of course, I can officially see that your out of my league now, which is depressing.... But what a hottie And yes... I'm officially lame.
If you have a response, I will miss it.... I wont be on for a while.... I enjoy your "last word"...
take it easy hot mama ....

rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 5/26/2006 5:08 pm:
That's exactly what the dream was like. One minute everything looks normal, and the next everything is dark and weird.

TY for saying I'm a hottie. {=} Since I wasn't able to give you that kiss....

Lame? No, you aren't lame. Believe it or not, under all this tough exterior, I LIKE to feel wanted. Especially by a gentleman like you....

jadedbabe78 105F

5/25/2006 11:43 pm

From what I've read, if you remember images or dreams from the first stage of the sleep cycle it's actually your subconscious interpreting something in the back of your mind. There's so many studies on the sleep cycles and what occurs during each of the 4 stages. They're rather interesting.

As for what it means...no clue. I've been trying to figure out some of mine for years.

rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 5/26/2006 5:01 pm:
Hey!! glad you finally stopped by! the possible meanings for this dream are limitless so I've been sleeping more trying to redream it, in the hopes the answer will hit me.

im_your_man77 39M
961 posts
5/26/2006 1:05 am

Ok I don't have time this morning to write a long winded response to this (shocking I know, you can close your mouth now). The vampires are not actually vampires at all, the vampires are actually a group of hairy bikers who were rode their harleys straight into an accident. The bikers were then taken to hospital and required blood of which there is not enough. Yes! Their life depends on you. They need YOU to take 30 minutes out of your day to go to the hospital so that you can donate some blood. The accident hasn't happened yet, but your actions today can help save a life or be directly responsible for someone dying. And I'm talking out of my ass, I have no idea what the dream was about.

rm_hotmamaNcols replies on 5/26/2006 5:14 pm:
Donate blood and save a bunch of bikers huh? This isn't a Red Cross month is it? If so, damn, no wonder I dreamt of vampires.

slimcountryboy2 38M
46 posts
5/30/2006 1:47 pm

TY, you're a kind hottie

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