In defense of strip clubs  

rm_connor696 60M
944 posts
7/28/2005 1:44 pm

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In defense of strip clubs

In my circle of friends strip clubs get a bad . It's not that these people are antisex. To the contrary, they often view sex, especially "transgressive sex," as liberatory, a revolutionary force for good. But they see strip clubs as encapsulating an old, "phallocentric" view: men coercing women into the role of sex object through economic power.

I usually try get to them to see another side to it, and of course a lot of dancers will point argue that they have all the control (and end up with a great deal of the money). But I wouldn't want to push that point too far, because at the end of the day, the whole scene is in fact created by male desire--and the women usually work for tips only.

But I like strip clubs. I think they can be joyous places, and I've known dancers whom I liked enormously, and not just because they were willing to rub their breasts in my face. I love the tease, the provocation, the music and dance wrapped up with sex; I even like the expressions of desire on the customers' faces (with women constituting increasing numbers of those customers). And after all, isn't this as natural as, say, childbirth? Don't many animals engage in sexual display? True enough, it all gets mapped onto to capitalism in titty bars (to use the Texan expression), but is that enough to put the kibosh on something so elemental?

All sort of pagans have participated in rituals that involved naked dancing: the Romans certainly, and probably the Celts as well. Modern-day hippies even.

Me, I love the celebration of bodies and eroticism that take place there. Sure, money drives it, but that doesn't make the energy any less real or fundamental.

Okay, end of rant. But I'm curious as to what others here think. Strip clubs: a buncy of cynical hooey perpetrated by retrosexual men or a bawdy enactment of bacchanalian joy?

rm_rsp54 58F
531 posts
7/28/2005 11:44 pm

I have a close friend who was a stripper for a few years. We have discussed strip clubs many times. It is an interesting subject. What bothers me about most of them is their sediness. Many(not all) are in less than reputable areas. They are usually doomed(reputation wise) before they even open.

Sex is a hot commodity. The Christian Right just dosen't want to hear that. In the course of this moralistic battle anthing sex related becomes further tainted. What is so wrong with viewing the beautiful body of a mutually consenting adult? If a person so chooses to strut their stuff for cash I say "Go For It!"

Goldenhairgodess 63F
396 posts
7/29/2005 9:17 am

My second husband was a bouncer at a strip club for about two years. On Friday evenings when I came home from work, I often cleaned up and went there. After closing to the public we would stay with some friends and have an after hours party. One evening he came to me and said "The owner says we are a little short handed and wondered if you would be willing to help out." I was dumbfounded. "Me? You mean you would want me on the stage doing that?" He replied "NO. I just mean waiting the tables. We could use the money." Looking at him I replied "Do you really think that we need the money that badly?" He smiled broadly at that and said "I just wanted to see how far you would go for money. I am glad that you are above that." Had I said "Sure, why not?" It may have been the end of "us". And I felt secure knowing that my standing principals gave him peace of mind.
But I never looked down on the dancers in any way. Everyone has a right to earn a living. And it is not my place to judge anyones occupation.

moonlightphoenix 45F
6508 posts
3/24/2008 8:36 pm

Sigh. My breasts have never been big enough to rub in anyone's

Never been to a strip club, although I really wanted to when I was hugely pregnant just for

I hve nothing against the, or dancers, but the whole thing would probably get on my nerves pretty fast....I mean could anyone honestly think those girls would have anything to do with them if they weren't waving money at them??

It just seems cruel in some respects. On both sides.

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