Longest post EVERRRRR!  

rm_VoodooGuru1 49M
2116 posts
12/17/2005 8:55 am

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Longest post EVERRRRR!

So I’m chatting with a dear friend last night; she’s a very bright woman, but less interested in larger, more abstract things than I am, and less interested than what I think is a minimally safe level for an American. (By larger, abstract things, I mean politics, government, policy.)

She says she’s not interested in politics because she can’t see how they affect her. She doesn’t believe the make up of the Supreme Court, or Bush’s tax cuts and deficit spending, or our policy regarding Venezuela or Cuba affects her life. (We’ll be adding Bolivia to that list soon.)

I explained that the Supreme Court can restrict her reproductive rights, even her ability to engage in certain aspects of her sexuality. I told her how each man, woman, and child in this country - including her children - owes US$27,000.00 right now, in no small part due to the war and “no bid” contracts awarded to Bechtel, Carlisle, and other companies Bush and his administration are linked to. (Make no mistake, concerned reader, the no bid practice is antithetical to Capitalism and free markets, ideals that Bush claims to hold so dear; it's kleptocratic Communism, only in this case, the beneficiaries are friends and family of Bush, rather than the state.)

I told her how she would be paying less to heat her home and fill her car if our government would respect the fact that Hugo Chavez was fairly elected by the people of Venezuela.

OK, I'm about to use a tired analogy here, and I hate to do it, I loathe cliches, but it is appropriate, and accurate.

In living memory, there are people of another nation who apathetically allowed stupid and evil men to seize power and circumvent the rule of law because it didn’t affect them. That nation is of course Germany.

This may seem like an insane rant from an alarmist, but I’m fairly certain that we are one major terrorist attack away from fascism. Remember how the government seized powers it had never had before right after the Towers fell? Remember how we all supported that? Remember how 99% of Americans who supported the Patriot Act didn’t know (and still don’t) what the Act did; and do you remember that not a single congressman read the fucking thing before voting “yes”?

Do you remember the administration pissing off the rest of the world, but the world quietly pursuing a policy of appeasement? Remember Ann Coulter and others calling opposition to the war “treason”? (An accusation I took VERY fucking seriously - treason is punishable by death, and that is indeed what she was calling for.)

Do you know that the government can go to your library, even a private library at a private university, as well as a bookstore, and record what books you have borrowed or bought; and they can do this in secret without a warrant? Did you know that library or bookstore is prohibited from letting you know that the government has done this?

Orwell, Hitler, Bush... they all knew that as long as you can convince your people that there is a major and active threat to them, their families, their way of life, they will support you. For Hitler, it was the Jews. For Bush it’s terrorism, which is perfect, because there are terrorists all over the globe, and there always will be, so he has carte blanche to bomb anyone. Bush could invade Spain and justify it under his "Super Monroe Doctrine" since there are still a few Basque Whackers in the mountains.

Hitler had it tougher; he couldn’t blame the Jews for everything and then invade Mexico, he had to do eastern Europe first.

And now it comes out that George W. Bush himself signed authorization giving the National Security Administration extralegal powers to initiate electronic taps on American citizens without the warrant that the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution requires.

Many Americans have never read the Bill of Rights, let alone the Constitution. For those who haven't, here is the Fourth Amendment:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Our President admits to actions which violate this Amendment, and says he plans to continue to do so.

Now imagine a nuke going off in New York, Boston, Washington, or Houston. What would follow the destruction of, not a couple buildings, but an entire city?

While hysteria swept the country - How many nukes do they have? Who’s next? - and urban centers tried to evacuate because cities weren’t safe, Bush would enact martial law. This means ALL your Constitutional rights are gone, and the National Guard can shoot you or your children if you’re out after curfew. Elections would be “postponed,” and it’s likely that Congress would be dissolved.

We would certainly retaliate with nukes all over the Middle East, strategically targeting only those areas that won’t contaminate oil fields. The world would freak because their embassies and staff were annihilated, and because crude is now at US$500.00 a barrel (that's ~$18.00 a gallon in the US). China would definitely use the opportunity to invade Taiwan, and Russia would probably re-annex the republics that are oil-rich.

Canada would probably not be taken outright, but it would be made Bush’s bitch under the auspices that there are terrorists in Canada, and we need unfettered access to our Alaskan oil fields. (The truth being that sharing a border with a liberal government like Canada’s is dangerous to a totalitarian regime.)

Israel would probably make out well.

So, with all the global turmoil, Bush would have to stay in office, because it wouldn’t be safe for an administration change. The press would be controlled by the government, only now they wouldn’t be paid to write happy lies like they are today.

Of course Muslims would be sent to “work camps,” and eventually the seditious types - those who protest the New Republic of America - would go too. The Religious Right would gain real power through Bush, and homosexuals would go next, and then eventually... everyone who refused to convert to an evangelic religion.

Posting this guarantees me a bunk at camp.

Likely to happen? No. But this is not fantasy, skeptical reader. Remember, Bush was not democratically elected - he was installed. Would you have thought such a thing possible in 1995?

Why should you be aware of political events when they don’t really affect you? So that they CONTINUE to not affect you!


rm_saintlianna 45F
15466 posts
12/17/2005 9:37 am

Installed, I love it...........he doesnt work right, maybe he should be uninstalled and replaced with an updated version.


saddletrampsk 54F

12/17/2005 10:11 am

I can't believe the US re-elected BUSH..I feel you pain sweety and your post is bang on the money..and I love politics, find it very sexy..


caressmewell 53F

12/17/2005 10:23 am

Voodoo, you have out done your self. Bush needs to be watched (preferably removed).


MissAnnThrope 56F
11488 posts
12/17/2005 4:36 pm

You do realize that the Republican run Congress has shot down many aspects of the Patriot Act this time around, right? I was thrilled to hear enough of them read it this time. You realize also, his spying on private citizens without a warrant is an impeachable offense, right? Then again, so was his lying to go to war with Iraq. Giving up the name of Valerie Plame was treason and a violation of the Intelligence Identites Act, which his own father got passed.

This man is a disaster. This man makes Nixon look like a great President. The number of people who don't care what's going on in this country really scares me.

I could go on for hours, but I won't. Instead, I'll leave you with this quote. (Which I have on a t-shirt.)

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials


frogger1995 39F

12/17/2005 5:17 pm

OK..my only question...how could you stomach chatting with someone who not only isn't into politics but believes they don't affect her???????

I hope you don't mind but I plan on plugging this post on my (now exiled) blog.


sillyperv 54M

12/17/2005 9:18 pm

You call this woman intelligent - honestly, you were staring at her tits, weren't you. It happens. (Doesn't this like make frogger even hotter - imagine banging her to extacy while she's quoting Chomsky - God I just quiver)
So, what's a little colateral damage to achieve your ends!
Now seriously, Bush does not make Nixon look good - they are two fetid peas in a pod.
Hitler, Bush, Mussolini were all installed in power by the corporate elite because they "made the trains run on time". Union busters all, these demogagic populists.
Special interest groups are the blight on democracy.
And, while Orwell understood, and defined for a generation, the methods of government control of information and execution, he was a strident anarcho-syndicist. You're the second blogger to place him in a context where it seems he is comparable to Hitler et al. It's a quibble, I now, but you know how some things just stick in your craw!
The Right in the US has been funding the Conservatives in Canada since Trudeau took power - oil, trees and WATER!
(Spelling poorly tonight. Scusa!)


trustno01 55M  
2364 posts
12/17/2005 9:27 pm

If you have not seen Syriana yet go see it!!! It will add even more to your illness.

I was watching "Charlie Rose" the other night and he had the guy who wrote the script for Syriana. It scared the hell out of me what he was saying. First he talked about meeting the leader of Hammas. How he ended up there and their discussion. Now keep in mind this was before the illegal invasion of Iraq. The leader of Hammas told him that if the US invaded Iraq that the US would not only have to deal with the Iraqies but also with the whole muslum world. Secondly, he talked about going to a dinner party with all of these extremely rich owners of the oil industry. After dinner they played a game called which country is next to over take. They talked about oil rich states and went on how they could over take them. The richest man at the table (who incidently owns one of the largest oil companies) said that Nigaragua was next. They all looked at him and said that would be a good choice. He said choice, it has already started and we have put over 50 million dollars into the effort. The third thing he talked about was the fact that the radical muslums have an opprotunity at the moment to own 70% of all the oil fields in the world. Think about that for a minute. That is a TON of money pouring into support of their radical beliefs. So do you still believe that the illegal invasion of Iraq was to create a democratic society?


Fox4aKnight1 43F

12/17/2005 10:15 pm

Hmmmm you have a point and I rarely try to read or watch anything on polotics especially about Bush as the guy pisses me off and i am trying to feel decent. But I also read Froggers blog which brought me back to this and thanks for the info here. I am so sick of all ts BS ......and they are missing the point altgther. I see Bush as someone who wants to have control and abut half his policies are useltess junk that infirnges on our basic rights. I am not familiar with Rights or lefts or liberals as Frogger and you are however I do know that I want to live my life with the right to be who and what I am in the privacy of my own home. If however that right is taken away or threatened by the very idioot that we voted for or who was installed then I wonder when we became someone besides the United States, and became something else. I mean Buh is pushing for a democratic Middle east and it is looking less and less like a democratic homefront and more and more like a freindly meant takeover by someone in our domestic front. I mean this is not England in the early 1600's and chruch does not run the state (sorry a personal pet peeve there). But the more I listen to Bush the more I hear of our Moral resposibilities, ect. I was almost jumping for joy when that one canidate had a daughter that was Gay I was like wooooooohoooooo someone who into reality. (somewhat) I was still not paying much attention.Sorry if I offend anyone but to be honest I can't afford to get too emeshed in this stuff cause it really carries me away and I will go on for days
anyhoo........this is disturbing. ttyl
Foxy


rm_FreeLove999 46F
16127 posts
12/17/2005 10:30 pm

you know my feelings on this subject already. but i will say, that there is also an attitude of "mind your own business" by americans about other people who are anti-Bush, whereas, frankly, i think he is as much our non-elected leader as he is yours. the clout these guys have in the world is scary and when resistance is called terrorism, i for one know i have a lot to worry about!



[blog freelove999]


silkysmoothlegs3 105F

12/18/2005 7:40 am

nods in agreement with freelove
Good blogg babes
silky x


rm_VoodooGuru1 49M
2053 posts
12/18/2005 10:00 am

[blog saintlianna] - yeah, right? He's already Bush v2.0

saddletrampsk - that's right, baby. C'mon tell me... who's your wonk? That's right... it's me! Yeah, you got me harder than Chinese geometry.

caressmewell - thank you, belle.

MissAnnThrope - I don't know that I've ever read that Goering quote, but it's spot on. Goering was certainly evil, but unlike Hitler, he was intelligent, thoughtful, and sane.

frogger1995 - I stomach it because I'm fond of her. Just talking about whether politics affects you is a political conversation. Don't pastors talk to atheists about religion?

Thank you for the plug, Frogger, I appreciate it sincerely. (What do you mean by "exile?"

sillyperv - I call her intelligent, because she is. And I wasn't comparing Orwell to Hitler in any sort of moral parallel. Really, I was just referring to the book... fake enemies, eh?

trustno01 I plan on seeing it... but first I have to take the nefs to King Kong and then Harry Potter... in IMAX.

Nicaragua? I don't see it. Syria? Possibly. Venezuela? Again, possibly, but we've fought our wars in South America covertly, at least for the past hundred years.

Fox4aKnight1 - thank you. Cheney's daughter is gay.

[blog FreeLove999] - yes, well, any US President is always going to be an unelected leader of the rest of the world by proxy.

I understand what you're saying, and agree to a point. I understand terrorism a bit more than most, and I don't get emotional about it, except when terrorists are trying to kill me.

But when terrorism is called resistance, we all have much to worry about.

silkysmoothlegs3 - thank you!


sexyeyes375 47F

12/18/2005 11:00 am

Excellent post. I've brought up some of these points before.. sometimes to doe-eyed friends. I think the reason most people do not follow politics, especially after war was declared, is fear. And you point out the facts and scenarios that make them want to keep their head in the sand. This is what the government has counted on for years, yes?


demonicsexkitten 41F
10672 posts
12/23/2005 10:33 am

Umm... if you posting this guarantees you one bunk... does it mean i get 2 bunks? they would have me on at least 2 counts. lol.


demonicsexkitten 41F
10672 posts
12/23/2005 10:36 am

"But when terrorism is called resistance, we all have much to worry about"

--> and honest resistance labelled terrorism, or at least "supporting terrorism"


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