What The Fuck Is Wrong With These People!!!  

rm_Kissmystuff 61F
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2/9/2006 9:51 pm

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What The Fuck Is Wrong With These People!!!

I don't care what political party you belong to...if you're at all human...with ANY regard for other people...this should piss you off. I...for one...will be making calls to my Senators and Representatives in Washington D.C. I've been behind in my reading...and just saw this tonight. I just hope it's not too late. (I posted a related story on 1/1/06 THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF!!!!!)

Monday 23 January 2006

Washington, DC - Today, Senator Barbara Boxer, Rep. Henry A. Waxman, and Rep. Hilda L. Solis criticized a Bush Administration plan to promote pesticide experimentation upon humans. The plan, contained in a final draft rule, was leaked to the legislators by a concerned Administration official who requested that the original copy of the plan not be duplicated in its entirety and widely distributed out of concern for anonymity. According to the EPA's communications plan, the Administration will officially announce the pesticide experimentation plan later this week as a final regulation.

In August 2005, Congress enacted a moratorium upon EPA using human pesticide experiments until strict ethical standards were established. Senator Boxer championed the moratorium in the US Senate. Representative Solis pushed the moratorium through the US House of Representatives.

"The Administration plan is inconsistent with the law passed by Congress with bipartisan support.The loopholes which allow continued testing on pregnant women, infants and children are contrary to law and widely accepted ethical guidelines, including the Nuremberg code. The fact that EPA allows pesticide testing of any kind on the most vulnerable, including abused and neglected children, is simply astonishing," said Senator Boxer.

"The regulation is an open invitation to test pesticides on humans, which is the exact opposite of what Congress intended," said Rep. Waxman. "The Administration predicts that over 30 pesticide experiments will be submitted to EPA each year under the new rule. That's an enormous step in the wrong direction."

"This is yet another example of the Bush Administration choosing to ignore the letter of the law and going its own way. Congress passed legislation to curb the practice of unethical pesticide testing on humans, but with this rule the Bush Administration is authorizing systematic testing of pesticides on humans which not only fails to meet its congressional mandate but which will increase the number of unethical studies," said Congresswoman Solis. "Americans should be concerned about just how far the Bush Administration will go to allow pesticide testing on pregnant women and childrenand, the ease at which it chooses to ignore the law. The Bush Administration must revise this rule to meet its Congressional mandate and give Americans a policy which is moral, ethical, and safe."

"This rule has not been signed by EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson yet. It's within his power to fix this regulation, and we are calling on him to do so," said Senator Boxer.

If the rule is finalized as currently drafted, it would apply to studies in which humans are intentionally dosed with pesticides, as well as "observational" studies. Some of the serious flaws of the plan include the following..

The Administration plan is inconsistent with federal law.

Congress required that EPA ensure that pesticides are never tested upon pregnant women and children. But the final rule would allow manufacturers to conduct testing of pesticides upon both pregnant women and children so long as there is no "intent" at the outset of the study to submit the results to EPA. Additionally, the plan would allow pesticides to be tested upon pregnant women and children in studies intended for submission at exposure levels up to the current legal limits - even though the National Academy of Sciences found that in some cases this level of exposure could present acute risks to children.

The Administration plan is inconsistent with the recommendations of the National Academy of Sciences.

Congress required that EPA establish a Human Subjects Review Board [HSRB] as recommended by the National Academy of Sciences. The Academy urged that this Board review research protocols prior to consideration by an Independent Review Board [IRB]. The Academy expected that the HSRB would have ethical and pesticide expertise that IRBs typically lack. This approach would allow an IRB to block unethical research or require modifications suggested by the Human Subjects Review Board prior to the initiation of a study. However, the Administration plan would establish a powerless Human Subjects Review Board that would consider research protocols after an IRB and EPA staff had already approved a study. Under the Administration plan, the HSRB would not have any authority to block or require modifications to unethical research.

The Administration plan would establish loopholes that could legally allow unethical experiments.

The Administration plan introduces new loopholes that will allow for ethical abuse. While the plan would require researchers to document their ethical compliance in the United States when the plan applies to them,it waives overseas researchers from having to prove a study was ethically conducted - even when the researcher intends to submit the study to EPA.Also, the plan would commendably subject EPA observational studies to the Common Rule. However, observational studies conducted by the pesticide industry would be bound by no specific ethical requirements. These loopholes were never suggested or even contemplated by Congress.

God...this makes me ill.


rm_Kissmystuff 61F
1435 posts
2/10/2006 3:23 pm

Thanks for stopping honni;

I don't think you're wrong. To most people it does sound like science fiction...people just don't want to believe it. The attitude of most people is "this is America...it can't happen here.
But when you look at everything that is going on...at least what we know about...it's very clear. Personally...I think we have a bunch of sociopaths running the country right now.

You can believe it won't be their children and wives they test the pesticides on.


DanaeKC 43F
600 posts
2/10/2006 10:38 pm

",it waives overseas researchers from having to prove a study was ethically conducted - even when the researcher intends to submit the study to EPA."

it just gets worse, and worse..... i don't know what to say. except that, for some of us, it's always been this way. i'm glad you brought this up, though, kissmystuff. this is depressing. luckily, for others who can actually stop this, this is energizing. for those of us who can, we need to support them in putting a stop to this.

again, thank you for bringing this to all of our attentions.

and humboldt, who said they were doing it 'slowly'?

rm_FreeLove999 46F
16127 posts
2/11/2006 12:23 am

this stuff so freaks me out. africa is often used as human laboratories to test out all kinds of stuff, very irresponsibly.

this stuff happens because so many don't want to believe such things could go on. and if you say this is happening, people abuse the messenger!

[blog freelove999]

barbiebunny 36F
5597 posts
2/11/2006 2:53 am

u know..this stuff hasnt got this bad since the nixson admin..rediculous and appalling..what are our elected officals doin???

Its good to be...ME

interested13563 53M
2557 posts
2/11/2006 10:19 am

Another shocking revelation! There are so many of them
that I am begginning to lose count! People of all creeds
(or no creads at all) should demand that the government
abides by the human rights code.

interested13563 53M
2557 posts
2/11/2006 10:25 am

I keep reading all the developments and do not
shy away from analysis. In fact I pursue it.
But sometimes it gets really sickening. It is
obvious where this is leading: concentration
of power and erosion of liberties (such as they
are). This has to stop before it's too late.

rm_Kissmystuff 61F
1435 posts
2/11/2006 10:34 am


First of all...thanks for coming by...I read your post about sex slavery awhile back...good post.

We're NOT helpless. Find out who your elected officials in Washington are and CALL THEM about this issue. Get your family and friends to call. If they want to be re-elected...they'll listen.


Thanks again for visiting and leaving your thoughts. That's true...people abuse the messenger. I think they react that way out of fear.

Yes...Africa has been used not only as a testing laboratory for dangerous things...but has also become the dumping ground for the west...of things like radio-active waste and other hazardous materials. There's a lot that has been going on that most of us are unaware of.

I think we should be VERY afraid.


I appreciate your visit and comment...thank you.

The first time I called one of my senators about this...the person I spoke with acted like this was a surprise...they knew nothing about it. This was a few months ago. Call your representatives in Washington...they supposedly work for you.


rm_Kissmystuff 61F
1435 posts
2/11/2006 10:41 am


Thanks for stopping by...appreciate your comments.

Yes...I agree with you...it is obvious where it's leading. I can't understand why ALL of us can't see it. There are those who still defend and rationalize these kinds of things...or they refuse to believe. And the great divide between people in this country seems to be getting worse...in spite of what our "leaders" tell us. We're ALL Americans...and need to work together to stop it...before it is too late.


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