THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF!!!!!  

rm_Kissmystuff 61F
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1/1/2006 4:59 pm

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THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF!!!!!


The following story appeared in the Associated Press In July, 2005. Now I'm hearing...again...that the companies who manufacture the pesticides...are lobbying to resume human testing. I thought the government agencies were supposed to be there to protect the people...not the profits of the companies. Now...is it just me who thinks this...or has the country been put in the charge of a bunch of sociopaths!!!??

Congress Set to Block EPA Use of Human Tests

Thursday 28 July 2005

Industry had exposed pregnant women, infants, children to pesticides.
Washington - In a rebuke to the Environmental Protection Agency, Congress is blocking the agency from relying on tests that expose pregnant women, infants and children to pesticides.

Both environmentalists and the pesticide industry claimed victory on the measure, a compromise from versions passed last month by the House and Senate that would have banned EPA use of all data from human pesticide testing for a year.

The language is attached to a final House-Senate compromise bill funding the budgets for the Interior Department and the EPA for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1. The House was expected to pass the spending measure Thursday afternoon and the Senate was to clear it before leaving Washington late this week for its August recess. The measure also contains $1.5 billion in emergency funds for veterans' health benefits.

The pesticide controversy arose after the EPA in 2003 lifted a moratorium on testing that had been in place since 1998. The agency has accepted on a case-by-case basis data from tests on human subjects as it works on new regulations for the tests.

A draft of the rules envisions permitting the agency to accept data from human tests on children, pregnant women, newborns, infants and fetuses. Even newborns of "uncertain viability" could be tested under the draft EPA rule.

Move Came after Draft Rules Leaked

When those draft rules leaked, California Democrats Rep. Hilda Solis and Sen. Barbara Boxer - over extensive protests from the pesticide industry - succeeded in attaching a one-year moratorium on testing to the Interior and EPA funding measure.

The final language bans the EPA from using results from human testing until it issues the new rules, which would come after a 90-day period for public comment and not later than six months after Bush signs the bill.

In addition to the ban on using data from pregnant women, infants and children, the EPA is instructed to establish an independent board to review testing on human subjects and follow the guidelines of the National Academy of Sciences and international standards adopted in the wake of the war crimes trials of Nazi doctors.

The early EPA draft rule rejected suggestions that an independent review board serve as a watchdog on human testing.

"I can't think of any recent examples where before EPA even puts out a rule, because something leaks out that's so bad that Congress adopts a statute that tells them what they can put in the rule," said Erik Olsen, an attorney with the Natural Resources Defense Council.

Religious Lobby Helps

The testing provision is a rare victory for liberal Democrats in the GOP-dominated Congress. Boxer and Solis had the backing of a coalition of religious groups that lobbied hard on the issue.

Still, the top trade association representing the pesticide industry welcomed the developments.

"We're relieved, clearly see it as an opportunity to move forward, resolve the issue by way of EPA being directed to issue the final rule and clearly see it as recognition by Congress that (human testing) is an important tool of science," said Jay Vroom, president and CEO of CropLife America, the pesticide industry's trade association.

Boxer and Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., had held up the confirmation of EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson until he promised to cancel a pesticide study on infants in Florida. Over the study's two years, EPA had planned to give $970 plus a camcorder and children's clothes to each of the families of 60 children in Duval County, Fla., in what critics of the study noted was a low-income, minority neighborhood.

SO HOW SICK IS THIS!!! and how many of you actually heard it reported in the mainstream media???

Kiss


mnowl 62M

1/1/2006 11:30 pm

Yes, I am pissed. This is my first knowledge. I have about a zillion questions, like have they been done in the past? What were the results? Pregnant women, are they nuts?


rm_Kissmystuff 61F
1435 posts
1/2/2006 12:27 pm

    Quoting thomas14fun:
    Hi... I work in an industry that uses a number of different chemicals, and while this doesn't directly impact the subject here, I have found that there are some really disturbing tendencies in the chemical manufacturing industry. The situation is that many chemical companies that are long standing, and well represented by lobbyists are exempt from many EPA and other government standards. This is so wrong, and allows things like mercury which is extremely hazardous to be introduced into our environment.
Thanks for speaking up Thomas:

What you have to say does directly relate to the topic...it deals with what some of these chemical companies are doing...and the inaction and negligence of our own government in protecting the people. In regards to mercury in our environment: Not long ago...there was a story out of Washington D.C. about high levels of mercury and lead in the drinking water...and the failure of the municipal water works and the EPA to provide adequate regulating and monitoring.
Mercury and lead...directly effects the mental development of our children. This area of the country is one of the poorest in the nation. How convient...this is done in an area where people don't have the vote...and the power to fight back. Congress should be ashamed. We should be ashamed. True...many of us may not have heard about these stories...but shouldn't we be holding our news media...accountable? Shouldn't we be holding our government accountable? If this was going on in an affluent neighborhood...it would not be tolerated!!!

Keep in mind also...that this administration has put in place...people who seem to be bent on dismantling many of the protections that the various governmental agencies...such as the EPA...and the FDA put in place over the years. What does this say about us...as a country...that we are allowing this to happen???

Kiss


rm_Kissmystuff 61F
1435 posts
1/2/2006 3:23 pm

    Quoting mnowl:
    Yes, I am pissed. This is my first knowledge. I have about a zillion questions, like have they been done in the past? What were the results? Pregnant women, are they nuts?
Are they nuts?...that's debatable. Are they greedy...and just don't care that they are hurting people and future generations?...I think it's obvious. THEY DON'T CARE. MONEY/PROFIT IS THE BOTTOM AND MOST IMPORTANT LINE FOR THEM!!!

This is only the tip of the iceberg. For instance...some of the pesicides that have been banned here in this country are being sold by these companies to 3rd World nations. In South America...for instance...thousands of people are effected each year...children...women...men...some die...some come down with a poisoning of their bodies...causing sickness...mental retardation in some of the younger children...nerve damage...and a slower death for many. HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS IN THE REGULAR MEDIA?? I HAVEN'T. I make it a point to read and listen to alternative sources of information. The BBC and Truthout.org are excellent alternative sources.

Kiss


mnowl 62M

1/2/2006 3:24 pm

Do you know what companies we are talking about? I read the trade organization, but I have a phone conversation scheduled with one of our Senators in about 10 days and I'd like some specifics. Can I get them from the trade organization, or do you have a location i can go to get the information? I want to make this an issue.


rm_Kissmystuff 61F
1435 posts
1/2/2006 5:35 pm

    Quoting mnowl:
    Do you know what companies we are talking about? I read the trade organization, but I have a phone conversation scheduled with one of our Senators in about 10 days and I'd like some specifics. Can I get them from the trade organization, or do you have a location i can go to get the information? I want to make this an issue.
That would be wonderful mnowl:

I personally don't know which companies. But I would start by contacting Senator Barbara Boxer's and/or Representative Hilda Solis's offices. They both represent California in the United States Congress. You might inquire of them which religious groups were involved in the effort to stop the testing.

Another name to possibly follow up on would be Erik Olsen, an attorney with the Natural Resources Council...mentioned in the article.

There's also the Senator and Representatives from your own state. They have staff people in their offices who should be able to find that information...and the Congressmen themselves should be aware of the issue and be willing to discuss what they are doing in regards to it.

I'd be interested in hearing what information these sources are able to provide you with. Also...let me know if I can help.

Kiss


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