Check THIS Out...Battle of the Words...  

rm_Kissmystuff 61F
2665 posts
3/22/2006 6:01 pm

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Check THIS Out...Battle of the Words...

I came across this post [post 273769] on this gentleman's blog the other day. Decided..I've got to check this one out.
superitaliano4u

As I converse with him..it looks like this one may take a while..of back and forth..a battle of the words.

Now..I've been studying and reading the history since the age of twenty..a good 30 years. So bring it on baby. I enjoy a good debate. Just make very sure you have your facts straight.


Kiss


rm_Kissmystuff 61F
1435 posts
3/23/2006 8:37 am

Hi nip...

Thanks for stopping by.

The thing of it is...I do see the guy's point. He's basically saying that he's uncomfortable with the use of the "N" word. And I'm overlooking his use of the "some of my best friends are" phrase. However I don't see the issue as a matter of "equal rights".

Besides..as stated earlier..I do love a good debate. The gentleman has a sharp mind..and I'm enjoying the exchange immensely.

Kiss


rm_cru1972 44M
4407 posts
3/23/2006 10:14 am

I'm sorry to hear about that, I think if anyone can put him in his place it would be you. I wish that there was not so much INTOLERENCE in this world. Now On to the lighter side You Have Been Tagged Go to Tagged Kitties! Don't forget to Spay and Neuter! for all the details. I really can't wait to read your post on this topic. Please read mine too Yikies I've Been Tagged


interested13563 53M
2557 posts
3/23/2006 12:40 pm

Kiss, I have no doubts that your arguments are solid and
nased on accurate data. However, in my experience people
are usually not convinced by arguments and reason. For
most it is only their own experience that can change their
attitude and conviction typically slowly, sometimes
abruptly. I am with you as usual.


pandoo5 59M
398 posts
3/23/2006 2:57 pm

words can hurt and same time they can comfort you too, this word N indicates a race but not accepted by all of us some get real offended, debate on it as history or person can have different meaning for readers, please explain and as you said have your facts straight.


mygmyg 59M

3/23/2006 4:34 pm

KMS, he does have a sharp mind, the take that it is an equality issue of if "you can say it, why can't I" is mind boggling.
Reduces the whole issue of equality and acceptance to a "childish level mentally"(if you can, why can't .

KMS, I have been taught in my recent college "career" by 2 0r 3 professors (2Dr. of science and 1 Dr. of religious history, all 3 white) that there is not a pure white race. Us "whities" are the derivative(come from originally) race. The professors point was in the context of lectures on things that you have touched on, the copper skin, hair of wool and the definitions of black and white, and also to the point of the terminology of race(the term caucasian in particular) on collecting RACE data, with white being correctly denoted as OTHER!! there is some real good "Learnin" goin' on down here in Texas!!

Enjoy your debate!


TopFisher 63M

3/23/2006 11:58 pm

The year is 2006, I've this tendancy to think that anybody that is not of the black race that uses such is, well, sorta so detached from reality that one really does not desire any sort of discourse with?


rm_FreeLove999 46F
16127 posts
3/24/2006 4:33 am

hmmm.... i hesitated to go over there as i thought it might make my blood boil. on the whole, i just think his argument is petulant and self-serving. i have to ask myself why he wants to use the word anyway... in SA that has never been the word used to describe black people ... we have an equally offensive word used "kaffir".

for many years it has been off-bounds for ANYONE to use that word. suddenly, in the last few months, i have again been hearing a few white south africans using that word, and it profoundly shocked and offended me. what it does make clear tho, is that white south africans are once again comfortable in their superiority in this country, comfortable that this new government, despite its stated political programme, is going to do nothing to right the wrongs of apartheid and now many white south africans do not even feel it necessary to feign apology.



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rm_kelli4u2dew 41F
5220 posts
3/24/2006 5:24 am

Some of my best friends are men, but that doesn't mean I'd want to marry one ...

People get so hung up on differences and why they're important, instead of just enjoying them. I'm so glad you and I are different, and so glad of the ways we're the same.

Have fun!


DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
3/25/2006 6:39 am

Interesting.

I see this different than some. I'm friends with many blacks, from various socio-economic backgrounds. We have different things in commmon and relate accordingly.

Some use slang (ebonics) and I know it well, so it's not uncommon for me to talk this way in the presence of some. The context of the word "nigger" isn't lost on me, though it isn't the same when coming from me when I'm talking to them. Also I'm Hispanic, so it's not so much a racial issue as one of common experience. I don't really use the word, but I don't condemn it either in the proper context. I know many blacks that call each other "nigga" or some variation of the word. I've used it as well with black friends, there is no offense in this context. It's part of the ebonics vernacular. If you don't listen to , or understand that scene you would not understand the context. It's really that simple. Also, it's still not appropriate for whites to go around using the word, that will never go over well.

I think race is really overblown in this country. People need to understand that it's not so much race, as it is the common understanding you have with people that will unite or divide you.

When Kanye West made his infamous declaration "George Bush doesn't care about black people", he was merely stating what many minorities felt for years regarding the Republicans. It just so happened that the slow relief effort after Katrina brought it to the forefront. If Bush would have implored FEMA to get aid there faster, he could have forstalled alot of this backlash.

In some ways, I can't see us ever getting past the race issue. People just can't let things be what they are. They have to force the issue, whether there is reasonable merit or not.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


rm_Kissmystuff 61F
1435 posts
3/26/2006 11:28 pm

Thanks to all of you for stopping by and leaving your comments. You each extend a empathy and a willingness to put yourself in the shoes the us others.

I guess today..I'm just a bit tired..and don't have a lot of patience right now. Quite frankly..there are times..when dealing with some of the foibles of folks can drain one. Right now..I'm biting my tongue..so to speak..so as not to say something really nasty and cutting..to the gentleman in question..who's blog I've highlighted in this post. I felt at the time that it was a topic that could use some discussion. And it appears that some have found it and made comment there.

However..quite frankly..my thoughts right now are: "why is it that African Americans..and others of color..or perceived lower class..it seems..are expected to continually justify..validate and explain to others..The Why of Things"? It is mind boggling to me..the insensitivity..and lack of understanding that exists in the world.

I do want to give special note to the sensitive and insightful understanding given in the response here from DIVISION77. I was very tempted to copy and paste his comment on the other gentleman's blog. But really..I feel it should be done by Division himself..if it's to be done at all.

Kiss


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