War on Poverty  

rm_Dug4Elise 37M/35F
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8/8/2005 2:20 pm

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War on Poverty

The "War on Poverty" isn't the government's responsibility. Throwing money at poor people does not improve the situation. It gives them money to buy dope, beer, crack, Tommy Hillfiger, and Escalades. Poverty is a fact of life, and the responsibility for helping with that does not fall on the government. People help people. Food helps hungry people. Food is cheap. Instead of handing out welfare checks, hungry people should be forced, yes forced, to go to food shelters. And any idiot who shows up at a food shelters or the welfare office in Tommy Hillfiger or an Escalade should be dealt with properly.

People who live in the hood should sell their house for whatever they can and buy a trailer out in the country. At least their kids will have a chance as they won't be in the inner city schools any more. And of course there are those who don't own their own homes in the hood. They can move in with whatever relative left the hood. Sure, this doesn't cover everyone in the hood, but it covers most. Those people who did leave have better lives. The few remaining can work at McDonalds 'till they have a few grand to buy a trailer with. Or they can take yer blasted welfare and save that. And since most of the neighborhood has left, there are less people around in the hood to commit crime.

The way you provide social welfare is by helping the poor. You help the poor by providing opportunities for them to not be poor any more. You don’t do that by giving them money via social welfare programs. You provide them opportunities to use their time to get money. Those of us who work call it a job. How can one provide another a job? I know for a fact that the US military-industrial complex does a damn fine job of that.

You got me started on the military-industrial complex. The Military employs hundreds of thousands of people who would otherwise be on the streets or jail. It gives them a myriad of opportunities that social welfare programs do not. If you can't get a job, you can still join the military. And that doesn't mean by any means you have to be in harm's way. How many sailors a year do you know of being killed? Now how many blue collar workers do you know of being injured or killed on the job? And to make it an ever sweeter deal, women are given special treatment in the military. They aren't required to be anywhere remotely dangerous. But thanks to the EIC and other tax handouts, single mothers don’t pay taxes anyway, so that’s almost a moot point. Don’t get me started on that. And there are plenty o plenty of jobs in the military that involve no risk what so ever. There's your social welfare program right there. That tips the scales a bit in your criticism of government spending.

If you knew anything about defense contracts, you would know that a majority of each contract pays for labor. That's right, man hours. Labor is expensive. Design engineers, welders, programmers, shipyard workers, truck drivers, technicians, and so on, they don't work for free. They have families. They pay bills. They get hungry. Many live in bad neighborhoods. There's your social welfare program right there. So what about the rest of the juicy govt contract? Parts aren't free either. Neither is paying people to train military people how to use them. Even if contractors were gouging the govt, I don’t think it would be public knowledge. Let us consider where that money goes. I suggest corporate execs invest their salaries and kickbacks into investments to make even more money. Greed is like that. Million dollar yachts, houses, cars and so on aren’t enough. Greed is only satisfied with more money, thus perpetuating the cycle. If corporations have been investing their ill-gotten, swindled tax dollars outside the country for all time, then how has the US economy surpassed that of all other countries on the planet? I can’t really imagine. I’m willing to bet they put it into their own network. Friends’ companies, family companies, business colleagues’ companies. My point is it stays mostly in the States thereby bolstering our economy. Even if liberal propaganda of corporate tax breaks, subsidies, hidden deals, etc have even partial validity, I still get a pretty good return on my taxes. I kinda like having fire departments, police, free schooling, roads, parks, and so on.

What I have a problem is people who get 100 times the return on their taxes than I do. What about tax breaks for people who got knocked up? Why shouldn’t they pay taxes? How many billions of dollars a year does the EIC, and other tax breaks for having dependants add up to? They enjoy having fire departments, police, free schooling, roads, parks, and so on. Yea it sux being a single mom, but birth control is provided free by the government. It also takes 2 to have sex. From a young age most of us know how babies are made. When you had sex, you knew the risks. You are just as responsible as that dead-beat dad. Personally I am not having a child until I am financially prepared to do so. Responsibility. If you get pregnant and you can’t handle the responsibility, then hopefully your family will. The way it is set up right now, hard working tax payers are shouldering the responsibility. Why should I work all day to pay for irresponsible single parents? No not even single parents, married couples with kids get tax breaks too. Millions of Americans get a tax break for their spouse if he or she doesn’t feel like working. So my tax money pays the bills of spouses who don’t feel like working. How many billions a year is that?

While we are on tax breaks, have you looked at your taxes lately? The less you make, the less portion of your income you have to pay. Tons of people don’t pay taxes at all. Plenty pay no taxes at all and the govt pays them. So why should people who don’t pay taxes get the same privileges like fire departments, police, free schooling, roads, parks, and so on as those of us who pay taxes? And why should people with more money be forced to pay more for the same privileges? The way I see it, the more taxes you pay, the more privileges you should receive. So if corporations get tax breaks, that’s good. If corporations are going to receive the same public services as people who don’t pay taxes, corporations shouldn’t pay taxes either. Where do you think the govt gets its trillions? By paying out tax refunds to the poor? By getting a few hundred from the average tax payer? No, by taxing rich people at a rate 50% or more. The way I see it, that money belongs to the rich people who earned it. I am grateful they allow the government to provide public services. So what if they get some of their money back in the form of corporate tax breaks, subsidies, hidden deals, etc?


JamesD19672005 49M
6 posts
12/27/2005 6:45 am

God, this is well-presented. Can I repost it on another Forum?


JamesD19672005 49M
6 posts
12/27/2005 6:45 am

Is all of your stuff this good?


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