Dead elderly and infirm in New Orleans  

redmustang91 57M  
8818 posts
9/19/2005 2:31 pm

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Dead elderly and infirm in New Orleans

Sadly the hospitals and nusing homes truly failed the elderly and infirm in the hospitals and nursing homes. About one-third of those dead so far. The evacuation plans failed to deal adequately with these poor wretches.

Dostoevsky said how a society treats its prisoners truly reflects its level of civilization. So does how it treats its poor and elderly infirm ones. I am ashamed we did so poorly and I hope America learns from this debacle.

I think FEMA and our leaders need to reassess their compassionate conservatism and just be compassionate in the best American tradition of FDR and LBJ.

Adlai Stevenson joked about the conservatism on his day when the catch phrase was economically conservative and socially liberal. He said does that mean voting to authorize new schools, but then not appropriating the money to build them?

Yes, that is exactly what it means to many Republicans!


9/19/2005 4:25 pm

I agree I am not happy at all how the officials there handled it. I heard but do not know if its true or not that a train company had offer to help evacuate people. Like I said I do not know if its true or not. If it was then all of the elderly and hospital patients could have been evacuated. I personally feel that this is the biggest screwup that could have been made by politicians. Sorry to offend anyone but thats how I feel.

hereinjoplin 45M/45F
3 posts
9/19/2005 4:28 pm

Perhaps the nursing homes and hospitals did fail to a point. Did anyone else fail? Were these residents purely the responsibiltiy of the government? If so, should we socialize all nursing homes? Everyone failed these people. You did, I did, their families did. When I was growing up, seniors who were unable to live on their own were taken in by their chidlren, or other reletives (sisters, cousins whoever had the space and compassion to take them). Now in our society we want to ship them to nursing homes and extended stay hospitals and have people who are not there purely for compassion take care of them. They are there for a paycheck. Are they committed? Some. Will they stay when the roof is blowing off, and water is rising? Not many, most will be packing up the ones they love and leaving. Why do we do this? So we will not be incovienced. We are to busy as a country to help our own, lets pay someone to take care of grandpa and visit him on holidays. Better yet lets take his money, form a trust and make him look broke so the govermnent will pay for it! Compassion on a government level is obsurd. Throwing money at a problem is not compassion, it is a diverson. This has ben shown time and time again lately with children in state custody. In Missouri, Indiana, Florida, and it is happening everyday. The compassionate state agencies are losing children, allowing them to be exploited, abused and murdered. All in the name of compassion. FDR was so compassionate that he produced generations of people who are now dependant on the goverment for their survival. The people chanting outside the superdome, many of them were there because governent comapssion encourages them to take and not give. They have been told that they are unable to do better, so they do not. A compassionate person helps others up to his level, he does not make sure that the man standing neck deep in water has a life vest. A compassionate man lifts the man out of the water. We need LESS government not a compassionate government, we need MORE compassionate people. Be they Democrats or Republicans they are all out for the same thing, to stay in office. They want to be in the seat of power. So you really think that your senators or representatives, republican or democrat give a damn about the poor people of this country? We have to take care of ourselves and each other, not rely on mismanaged and top heavy buracracy to doll out compassion. We MUST practice it ourselves.

redmustang91 57M  
8661 posts
9/20/2005 10:36 am

Americans are compassionate and do much for themselves! Why shouldn't the government help too? The military has the best facilities to move large numbers of people fast and feed and house them on a temporary basis. Why weren't they mobilized? Perhaps Walmart should get the job because they seem to do it better than FEMA, Red Cross or sporadic locals.

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