No such thing as Peace in the Middle East.  

potbelliedman 41M
1542 posts
6/27/2006 8:00 pm

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8/16/2006 2:54 pm

No such thing as Peace in the Middle East.


I thought it funny this week as I saw on CNN that the new Iraqi leader extended a plan for peace.
Very commendable for someone trying to stabalize a country, the man's got my respect, but I wonder how effective he will be with America being his ally.
The people in that region have been fighting since before recorded history. In a modern age you would think that folks could learn to put away the minor differences that cause years of termoil and conflict, but no....my god is better then yours, my prophet can kick your prophet's ass, so on and so on.
I think that the USA and Iraq can learn a lesson from the history of Japan.
Over 800 years ago Japan isolated it's self from the rest of the world. The culture was already keen and borrowed heavily from the neighbors of China and Korea, but became stagnant due to the sterile thought of it's leaders. For 400 more years they made no effort to gain allies, but instead decided to try to invade other lands. Jumping into more modern times, we can see that they very successfully beat back the Russians, and occupied Nanking, China with deadly results.
Then with the flawed view that they were to redeem the world with it's own views, (Take a hint here G.W.) they allined themselves with Germany. Times were different then and we had a much higher sense of duty to socitey, and country.
In short we wupped up on both of them and won the war.
Japan unconditionally surrendered to the USA after feeling the wrath of the "fat, and lazzy American workers who produced the parts for the Bomb that changed history.
Now, everyone wants that bomb, and we've put ourselves in a pickle playing the part of the big brother who gets drunk, but won't let the kid brother drink because he thinks it's bad for him.
When will the modern leaders learn that the folks in the Mid East don't want our thought, and they don't care about our Logic. They are primitives who base life on the values of the religion that someone elese before has made for them.
The problem now is that we have to let them keep fighting, but keep them from doing it with the bomb because (God fobid.) they become more like us in the USA, and then use it.
I'm glad I did not make this world, I just live in it, but when the monkeys take over, they will make me king.

VTLakesideVixen 60F
458 posts
7/10/2006 3:09 am

You are preaching to choir here son! If you follow some of their links and actually read some of the stuff that their preachers teach you'll find that they actually want to make all of us Muslims or wipe those of us that refuse to believe from the face of the earth. So, tell me with all of the greed in this world, how do YOU propose to keep the A-bomb out of their hands? Myself, I think that eventually we are going to have another "Viet Nam" on our hands or we are going to have to go over there and blow them all to smithereens before they will settle down and go back to their harems and herding their camels.

Just my two cents . . . .keep on blogging, I like what you've written, but it may be a little harsh for general consumption!


potbelliedman 41M
2141 posts
7/11/2006 5:44 pm

Thanks for the thoughts.
The muslims I know are nice people.
The extremist are the sick ones. And they should all be placed in one spot and exterminated before they try to exterminate us.
But since that will never happen, I'll just keep living my life.
(and doing my part.)
When I die, I will not care what goes on, and when I think about it, I died a long time ago. So I don't know why I care now. It's just fun to watch.
Cheers.
Ken


Mermaidslut 49F

7/16/2006 11:50 pm

I say, we form a united nations coalition and go give nuke power to all third world countries for free energy power plants. It would be cheaper then trying to kep them all off power by ourselves, and if they have the electricity, to make thier lives easier, and they starts becoming consumers instead of dirt scratchers... wel.. no one would be throwing rocks at each other anymore, unless it was in the parking lots sales for the new elmo toys due out at whatever international holiday replaces xmas


potbelliedman 41M
2141 posts
7/17/2006 10:37 pm

I think you have a very good idea mermaidslut.
You should run for office with me.
Ken


__iminatedaginst 43M

7/20/2006 9:34 am

I think along the same lines to some degree, I think. I agree with you about how stupid it is to fight over ancient religious teachings. I mean religion is something that developed at a time when there was virtually no communication or effective transportation, and most people didn't have a grade one education! When someone told stories about withces and goblins, people actually believed it. You'de think people would be smarter nowadays, since science has come so far and we understand the world better.

As far as it goes with the bomb, I think we are lucky that it is the USA who is the big brother on this one! I mean, compared to some countries, the USA is more morally advanced, and is far less likely to use it to control foreign societies, although some of the less educated would disagree.

I guess you could say they do to some extent, but it is usually in the interest of all countries in the end. I would rather a country which is founded on the values of freedom to have the bomb, than a country who is founded on the values of religion.

Just my thoughts.
Liv.


potbelliedman 41M
2141 posts
7/20/2006 9:15 pm

Liv you are a smart man. I don't care what anybody else says.
We still have not got the water melon out, but at least we do have the bomb.
Ken


SirMounts 102M

7/23/2006 6:11 pm

potbelliedman/Ken...
Hey, I'm glad that you have the interest to learn history. And so you must know that when America was the only country to have the bomb, we could have easily taken over the world. But we didn't, because we have the kind of citizen-led democracy that we are establishing in Iraq, so they won't want to fight each other. Iran and Syria are especially fearful of that, and are acting accordingly. Yet, we will leave Iraq a free country, just as we always do after we fight a war. Hopefully, democracy will take root very strongly. I hope and believe that it will.


potbelliedman 41M
2141 posts
8/6/2006 2:02 am

Sirmounts.
We should have a coffee break sometime with some exchange in histroy thoughts.
I happen to like yours.
Ken


sooolongsuckers 40M

8/16/2006 11:40 am

Hey you may only liv in this world, but at least you have your eyes open to it, and think about things.

I think we all make this world to an extent, even the monkeys! (If by monkeys you mean primitive thinkers)

As for what you said about extremists, you might wanna check out myThe Killer in me, is the Killer in you post.

Heck, we're all learnin, here.

Liv.


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