Platonic Friendships  

nightstalker172 36M
1646 posts
10/28/2005 11:56 pm

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Platonic Friendships

This may seem like a shot at all the women in the world its not. Im going to exsplain something to you ladies and hopefully you will understand.

Women want 3 things from men
1. Money
2. Sex
3. Emotional support

Now some women not all but most. Will have a different man for each "job". However the one that get the gravy job of 2 is considered the boy friend. Sometimes a man will have two of these jobs such as 1&2 or 1&3. It is rare to see a sinlge man doing all 3 jobs. Even in what seems likea happy marrage the husband is still only doing 2 of the 3 jobs in most cases. Hence why divorce is so common.

Now a woman will sit here and deny everything because if they admit it. They will "LOOK" like a bad person. Which in fact they are but shhh dont tell anyone.

The man being used for Money only buys her things for one reason and thats in the hopes of being intimate with her. She uses the promise of sex to keep him in line but of course never actaully gives in.

The man being used for sex doesnt care hes getting laid and he treats this woman badly because he can. Because shes an idiot who keeps comeing back for more.

The man being used for emotional support. The worst job on here. Why? because most guys actaully get close to these women. Yes they want to have sex with them of course. but they also like being close to that person in every way. So many women wish for a guy whos careing like that but when it comes down to it. Its not what they go for. Thus the whole "we can be FRIENDS speech" is brought into play.

So let me break in down for you ladies who seem to have trouble seeing eye to eye with men

If you have a guy friend that you spend alot of time with. Hes nice in every way and such. but is single guess what brainiac. Hes dateing you. He likes you. He wants you. Guys dont waste their time with females unless they like them...or they are gay. But you WOMEN seem to think "oh hes just my friend" or "no hes like a brother to me" how many times does your BROTHER hang out with you? Or want to go to dinner with you etc...ALONE...come on...The fact of the matter is this. If a guy is doing all this he likes you as a person AND he wants to get naked with you.

Now we all know that women pretty much decide right away if they want to have sex with a man. being a "friend" is misleading. Its saying you like him as a person but not sexually. OK well how many of you WOMEN preach that its all about the PERSON. "I just want a good person" or some BS like that. Oh but a good person comes around but you arent sexaully attracted to him. but you dont mind sitting there and letting him get more attached to you DO YOU. OH its just great to be JUST FRIENDS!

Oh but when he tries to show his affection for you. Your like WHOA hold on there we are JUST FRIENDS!. Oh hmm you couldnt say that to begin with could you...had to make a guy think he had a chance with you didnt you.

The fact of the matter is women wouldnt have straight guy friends at all if there wasnt the promise of sex. Once its clear that theres going to be no sex the guy moves on. The women wonder why. They sit there with their number 3 guy and bitch about it. SHE is USEING that number 3 guy to feel BETTER about her self by venting all her BULLSHIT on him. That number 3 guy listens because he really cares about her. and thus the cycle starts over again.

Now please exsplain to me how that is fair to the guy? Dont get me wrong I dont get mad everytime Im rejected I pretty much just walk away and wish her well. but there are the few who just piss me off because they acted like they where into me but only wanted to use me. "OH but hes your FRIEND I dont USE him for anything we like to talk about things so we are very close friends" News flash...thats useing him to feel better. If hes not gay and sinlge. Hes digging you hes trying to show you that hes a good person by supporting you. But instead you would rather go for the ASSHOLE after ASSHOLE because of what? why? Logically theres is only one word to decribe such behavior. Its called stupidity. That or they are emotionally masocistic.

Being a Platonic friend with a guy is just a form of control to get something you need that you arent getting from someone else. You know he likes you but you know you can get away with it and not have to do a thing in return. When a guy realizes this and leaves (and any guy with and ounce of pride would). You have the nerve to sit there and wonder what went wrong. We are not your girlfriend, and we dont like being treated as such.

I seriouly hopes this helps some of you ladies understand.

spinmedown 49M
3626 posts
10/29/2005 6:07 pm

Having been #1 and #2 and #3 and #12 and #13 and #23 and #123; I'd have to say that I'm pretty cool with all of them except for #1.
I'd do anything for a friend in need, but she had better really be a friend before she thinks of asking me for money. Anyone can ask me for emotional support and get it. A few could ask me for nothing but sex. I reserve #123 for someone truly special.
My level of involvement is always my decision. Sometimes I'm #0. LOL
Another interesting post NS172. Thanks.

Most people are other people... FUCKING CHARACTER LIMIT!!! ~Oscar Wilde

nightstalker172 36M
1258 posts
10/30/2005 4:46 am

I just despise those who prey on my good nature..if I knew ahead of time I would choose to be #0 as well...but women can be crafty...

PrincessKarma 43F
6188 posts
10/30/2005 12:00 pm

Huh... there's a friend on this site I want for #2, and #3 he gives me, but not quite the way I want him to. (Unrequited love sucks, as you obviously know.) As for #1, I'll make my own damn money, thankyouverymuch.

The Big Bang was the mother of all orgasms.PrincessKarma

silverfoxrun 40M

10/30/2005 1:26 pm

you are right on brother!!!!

We've all been there. Its usually when we are younger that we are too stupid to realize how this all plays out. But we learn pretty fucking quick. Everybody say it with me. RECIPRICATION.

Anything else is keeping your options open.

nightstalker172 36M
1258 posts
10/31/2005 11:21 pm

princess - good Im glad you make your own money...but tell me...if a guy asks you out on a date do you still expect him to pay?..alot of women do even if they are makeing 100k a year or what the hell is that?..IMHO if you want to have fun together who cares who pays...

Silver - I couldnt agree more....RECIPRICATION...

MissAnnThrope 56F
11488 posts
11/1/2005 7:05 pm

nightstalker, about platonic friendships... You've never been just friends with a woman? No sexual attraction on either of your parts? You click every other way, but no attraction? That is a true platonic friendship. My best friend, whom I've known since I was 20, is a guy. I can honestly say, neither of us has ever had the urge to see each other naked. When people ask us about it, we say, "ewwwwwww!" in perfect unison.

Yes, he has provided emotional support for me in the past, as I have done with him. When his son was born, he and his girlfriend offered to let me watch, but live childbirth isn't my thing. Not even watching it. Although, while he was with her, she would threaten me with the video.

It is possible for men and women to just be friends. Anyone who says otherwise is objectifying the other gender. Women do this as much as men. However, this doesn't have to do with friendship, does it? It has to do with "her", doesn't it? If it's other girls too, then you need a better class of friends.

PrincessKarma 43F
6188 posts
11/1/2005 10:48 pm

The person who asks you out pays. I asked my first date out and paid for the movie (although I conceded and let him buy the popcorn and drinks, lol). I've asked other men out since, and most act offended if I offer to pay my way, split the bill or pick up the entire tab. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The Big Bang was the mother of all orgasms.PrincessKarma

nightstalker172 36M
1258 posts
11/2/2005 12:17 am

missann - There is no way for a platonic friendship to work at all if either one is attracted to the other. That is what Im trying to say. I have a couple of female friends that I wouldnt want to date but are nice to hang out with. Ive had one who I wasnt attracted to at all and she liked me. Eventaully the friendship such as it was went bye bye...and that wasnt MY doing. Now as far as "HER" is conserned. We had been friends for 5 almost 6 years. Now a bit before I told her I liked her...I was getting different vibes from her...she seemed alittle flirty with me which she never really was that much...sometimes when she was single she would but I pretty much dismissed it (I dont know Im dumb). Now she was supposed to be my friend she was always kind to me up until after she rejected me. She was even nice about that...Now we all know how a pretty girl can get away with murder right? I have thought about this for along time and I feel as though she was trying to take advantage of me. To manipulate me to be her loyal dog. Im sorry but I have more pride than that. I wont stand for being treated as a dog...I was blinded to this because I really genuinely liked her and cared about her which I havent truely done in a very long time. To realize that I was nothing but her lap dog to cry to pisses me off. I think she "flirted" with me to keep me in line...that to me is using. You say that she probably didnt know Im angry or why or whatever...but women are so intuitive right? its like thier thing. I think she knew exactly what she was doing and when I figured it out she knew I wasnt going to put up with it. I know what you are are saying that Im bitter because she wont sleep with me...that is not true...Im down right fucking pissed off because she treated me badly..The fact that she rejected me at first..I was actually very sad and hurt by it...but Ive had time to reflect PLENTY of time...Now this isnt the first time a woman has treated me that way but I usually catch it alot sooner and brake it off so Im not wasteing my time...SHE was not only supposed to be my friend but also friends with my FAMILY...and friends for along time and then she stabs me in the back and kicks me when Im down..WTF kind of friend is that?...Im very picky about who I choose to be friends with...most people that betray me dont ever get on my good side again...This is why I have thought about contacting tell that little bitch off once and for all...I think confrontation is the only way for me to get passed this pent up rage that I have towards her...It has made it hard for me to see other people...That what I want to be able to go out and find someone else and have a clear heart about it...but when its full of rage...It becomes to hot to let anyone close to you understand what I mean?...I stand by my statment that friends never works if one is attracted to the other...That has been my experience.

Princess - I agree with you those who ask do the task......of paying.....but its drilled in us men that we are supposed to pay...its manly to treat your date...but if a woman never offers to pay at least...thats pretty much it for me...shes just going to be a bitch later on...JMO...Its great though that you are so independent...I wish more women could do that....

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