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mundarikos 40M
392 posts
5/16/2006 1:12 am
DELETED!!!!

so faithful friends and visitors alike, it would appear that something of a storm occured at the post i linked on my blog. the net result was the blogs writer, owner, censor, nazi, decided to delete the comments of those vistors from Greece who dared give a viewpoint other than her own redneck, cousin fucking, light beer drinking, pickup driving, gun-toting, bucket of chicken eating, ill informed, ignorant, nationalistic personal point of view.
im a little dissapointed, because i rather liked the comment of my own and would have loved to have caught the opinions of others from these parts who made the effort to opine.

so, first, lips started it! she wrote a comment there, got shouted at, replied, then... crafty cow that she is, pointed me there, knowing it was ust the right mix of incendiary flag waving and ignorance to set me off.
so thats how it happened... yep, lips knows me too well!
so heres my first comment and its response, and finally, my missing comment in full, please add your own.
filakia

from free love in america:
Hi erotica...
looks like im a little alte to this party, which is a shame as id have liked to comment while the topic was still hot, but, as youre still in Iraq and still contemplating invading iran, i guess the topic is still hot... so...
i notice that each time someone comments in a factual way about the crimes of the bush administration (and history will come to see them as such) you accuse them of spreading the negativity.
you hav every right to wave your flag of national pride, to extol the virtues of your native land, but, pleae dont ignore the actions of YOUR country when it playts in an international stage.
i dont care about american domestic policy, if you have one of the worst healthcare systems in the developed world, if you have one in five living below the poverty level, if quality education and healthcare are only available to those who can pay for it. none of this is my concern, but, i live outside the US and, like all those who commented from outside the US, we have the right to comment on your jingoistic and nationalist posts.
in the last six years your country has invaded two others... is talking of invading the third, bush is sounding off saying he will bring freedom and demcracy to the world through force... you refuse to ratify a treaty on pollution, start wars, supply aid on a conditional basis, preserve tarrifs to keep your failing industries in business but preach about global responsibilty and the virtues of free trade(do you know how much africa could export to the US if domestic policy didnt preserve your own agricultural businesses).

you keep saying to people to stop complaining and change things, but, if the UN cant stop America from invading a country without due cause how can the people in the society, especially when you dont get a chance to change anything until the next election?

I really dont have the time to continue and i could for hours so incensed am i by the actions of your government.

America at one time, shined like a beacon to the rest of the world, now, sadly, it appears as a cautionary tale against populist politics, nepotism and elected men with the reasoning skills and intellect of a dung beetle.

when the world is at war who will you blame? who will history show to have cast the first stone, the arab world or YOU?

EroticaXTC replies on 5/15/2006 2:17 pm:
The rest of the world is at war, always has been, always will be...We're involved in peacekeeping negotiations around the world on a daily basis, yeah, we like to see other countries keep the peace and stop threatening other countries, etc. The fact is, if we pulled out of the UN, then the rest of the world would never speak up, those countries who are already developing weapons of mass destruction would just step it up and eventually, take it upon themselves to try to be the "big dog"...Arrogance is in every seat occupied at every governmental meeting across the globe. You're a complete Fool if you think for one second that America keeping it's mouth shut and removing it's hand from global affairs will result in peace around the world. Arab nations will still try to destroy other Arab nations...Far eastern countries will still try to destroy other eastern countries...Religious factions will still try to dominate one another...the global genocide that is being practiced today will only increase. Greed is rampant in civilized and uncivilized societies...
You're speaking out of blind hate, I feel sorry for you...
I don't care if you could not care less about the inner workings of my country...But when you open your narrow minded mouth on my blog, you will receive the response you deserve.WE GIVE A FUCK about the UNDERDOG....and when some maniac in control of any government wants to torture, mutilate, murder it's own people for daring to think a contrary thought, then that sick fucking asshole should be removed.
When a country that constantly threatens another country with war and begins to build it's nuclear production, it's time to pay some fucking attention and speak up about it. Because if that should come to pass, if one country begins its warfare on another, what makes you think that country will stop there once it tastes the feeling of power and victory?
What the hell have you done to stop it?
We're who we are because we've been through unwarranted invasion and attack ourselves several times...That's why we give a FUCK about it.
We have the balls to stand up in front of the world and speak our mind.
The problem is, people like you don't do anything about it, you don't consider the fact that history repeats itself, and when it comes down to it, you'd run screaming for our help when the rest of the world gets out of control.
WE'RE DONE HERE.

well erotica, youve proved your point there! the fact your entire response has very little to do with my actual comment is apparently irrelevant, but, lets discuss my narrowminded view point shall we.
ive actually been to alot of these countries, rather than just seeen them on fox!
shall we talk about your middle eastern allies, the kingdom of saudi arabia? dont see you doing a lot of socially responsible invading there. africa... not a single thing over there where genocide and dictatorships, not to mention overwhelming poverty, are rife.

pakistan and india... saw the comment before about all the good you do in pakistan... hmmmm who are the most likely to use WMD in the world at the moment... pakistan and india, there hatred of each other goes back a long way, and instead of implementing any form of sanction as a discouragement to stop them developing nuclear weapons further, you send them aid! well, who gives a fuck what they do, theyve got no oil!

im going to start quoting you now and dealing with a few of your points (sic) one by one:
"The rest of the world is at war, always has been, always will be..."
actually, it really isnt. canada, australia, china, large portions of Europe not involved in this "coalition of the willing" and most of south america...well, they're not at war.

"The fact is, if we pulled out of the UN, then the rest of the world would never speak up, those countries who are already developing weapons of mass destruction would just step it up and eventually, take it upon themselves to try to be the "big dog"..."
firstly, I never suggested you pull out of the UN, but you do choose to ignore it when it suits you. last two countries you invaded, afghanistan and iraq, no WMD at all... so... whats your point?

"and when some maniac in control of any government wants to torture, mutilate, murder it's own people for daring to think a contrary thought, then that sick fucking asshole should be removed." like in saudi? have you ever considered this.. the rest of the world does not hold your values to be ttrue and you have no right to force them to do so! You arrogant fool, when did your values become everyones?

people in Iraq and afghanistan once had food and water and electricity... now they dont, nor do they have the freedom your nation promised them, before it was bad, now, they have decades of civil unrest and no amenities to look forward to... what a good thing youve done!

"if one country begins its warfare on another, what makes you think that country will stop there once it tastes the feeling of power and victory?
What the hell have you done to stop it?"
funny thing this, America is the ones invading so, when will you stop it? and go on, check your own history, your country sat idly by whilst europe was taken over by the nazi's. nothing, thats what america did until it was forced into war by the japanese, dont be so fucking proud of youself, history does not shine on your nation so well.
korea
vietnam
afghanistan
iraq.... so many places you had no business being!

"We have the balls to stand up in front of the world and speak our mind. " well, thats exactly what myself and others have chosen to do to, but as our opinions are different to yours youve chosen to call us fools and shout at us rather than "hear" our opinions

"We're who we are because we've been through unwarranted invasion and attack ourselves several times...That's why we give a FUCK about it."... what utter bollocks! your country isnt even old enough to have anything other than modern history... its like an arrogant and petulant bully, having the muscle but lacking the brain, wisdom or compassion to use what it has responsibly.

"You're speaking out of blind hate, I feel sorry for you..."
is this what your actually saying to me? youre a grade a fucking idiot! you know nothing about me and apparently very little about the world putside your borders! i dont hate america, i used to be a fan, i admire its original principles and ideals but now i have become dissapointed in its actions and recent history. insulationism in the one hand and aggression in the other.
where were your troops in bosnia? where are your troops in africa? how can you mention cuba in the "axis of evil" theyve not got a pot to piss in let alone a weapon to fire at you.

cuba... hmmm... so, on a regular basis "paramilitary groups" (some cubans with a mission) leave the shores of florida to go to cuba and perform some actions to disrupt the workings of the tyrannical castro government. then when they have completed their missions return to the safety of the land that keeps them, America. now as an american, im sure you view these people as freedom fighters who you proudly give asylum too... funny, if your cuban they sound like terrorists and america sounds like a country harbouring said terrorists... Question...invaded any countries lately for hiding and supporting terrorist groups? (give you a clue, starts with an "A" and ends in fghanistan"!)

where will we all go running when the world gets out of control, the place everyone always has my dear....the british!

i posted an opinion, i wasnt abusive or insulting to you, yet you feel its ok to respond in an aggresive and abusive way... you really are a narrow minded, media led, gullible fool indoctrinated into a culture of fear and of hatred for those different from you.
get a plane ticket, get out of your little world and seetherest of it, you may find things are very different to that which you imagine!


bizarrely, this is her response to the comment she deleted

EroticaXTC replies on 5/15/2006 11:04 pm:
When I said "We're done here"...I meant it...
I did not address your comments point by point because I recognize anit-American drivel when I read it...And I'm intelligent enough to realize that you want to direct your anger at me...I'm not going to allow that to happen,
The context of this entire post is finished and over with, as far as I'm concerned, from the moment you said you didn't care about what happens inside America...that, being said, I don't give a flying fuck whatyou think then...Got It?!
I don't know what kind of bullshit you're trying to stir up and send my way, but it's quite strange that I'm getting Greek responses now from a week old post....
I pity you, because you obviously don't have enough respect for people in general to allow someone to post in their own blog...
Go find yourself another scapegoat...you're no longer welcome here...and it's because I have courtesy in my soul that I've allowed your comment to remain this long.


papyrina 50F
21133 posts
5/16/2006 2:16 am

well by deleting my polite non bashing anything way,all she did was prove her one sided point of view,so be it.
I don't mind being deleted our blogs are to do as we please but its a sad world when people cannot or will not see other points of view.this leads to the Worlds problems today.
In all arguements there should two and three differant views only from that can we possible find the truth,closing our minds and brains to others is rather silly and we will never find out from out collective idiots we call goverments the truth.
I will blog something later once i get my facts and history correct again not bashing anyone just facts.


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seek_my_flame 40F
465 posts
5/16/2006 10:08 am

Although it was my intention to stay away from your blog, I feel it's foolish not to comment in here as well, since as you probably already know, Lips had sent me your posts to Erotica by email already.

So, how dare you have the nerve to strike Eroticas nerve with your antiamericanism and blasphemy? How dare you have a different point of hers and have the guts to say so and presenting facts? How dare you not be a fan of Bush's politics? How dare you fight against that God complex of all the good Americans who cannot see further from their finger???

Shame on you(once again)!


rm_rareview 40F
568 posts
5/16/2006 11:05 am

    Quoting seek_my_flame:
    Although it was my intention to stay away from your blog, I feel it's foolish not to comment in here as well, since as you probably already know, Lips had sent me your posts to Erotica by email already.

    So, how dare you have the nerve to strike Eroticas nerve with your antiamericanism and blasphemy? How dare you have a different point of hers and have the guts to say so and presenting facts? How dare you not be a fan of Bush's politics? How dare you fight against that God complex of all the good Americans who cannot see further from their finger???

    Shame on you(once again)!
Cat fight !

How dare you come here in this blogspace and ask all these provocative questions ?

How dare you ? You wanna fight ?



sometimes i feel greek blogland is a powerfull and a lot to offer part of this friendly and echelon monitored cyberspace.

rare


mundarikos 40M
423 posts
5/17/2006 1:24 am

Paps, youve doen nothing but demonstrate knowledge and class thoroughout all your posts and comments related to this. filakia

lipssayall? lipsstirhornetsnets more like! hehehe keep it up!


mundarikos 40M
423 posts
5/17/2006 1:28 am

    Quoting seek_my_flame:
    Although it was my intention to stay away from your blog, I feel it's foolish not to comment in here as well, since as you probably already know, Lips had sent me your posts to Erotica by email already.

    So, how dare you have the nerve to strike Eroticas nerve with your antiamericanism and blasphemy? How dare you have a different point of hers and have the guts to say so and presenting facts? How dare you not be a fan of Bush's politics? How dare you fight against that God complex of all the good Americans who cannot see further from their finger???

    Shame on you(once again)!
how dare you come here and offer thinly veiled support! how dare you come here and offer something of an olive branch!
how dare you encourage me to grasp it with well placed humour and wit!
i think us liberal minded, truth and knowledge seeking progressives should stick together no matter our differences, it appears the other side does!
please come again
N


mundarikos 40M
423 posts
5/17/2006 1:32 am

    Quoting rm_rareview:
    Cat fight !

    How dare you come here in this blogspace and ask all these provocative questions ?

    How dare you ? You wanna fight ?



    sometimes i feel greek blogland is a powerfull and a lot to offer part of this friendly and echelon monitored cyberspace.

    rare
oooohh.... dont you start too agent provocateur no1!!
I think Greek blogland is very powerful, we are a freethinking, freespeaking group, all capable of expressing an opinion and none of s afraid to opine! we also have many non greeks and we mix together, absorbing some cultures retaining some of our own (greek or not), a melting pot where everything retains its original flavour... hmmm... that sounds familiar, somewhere theres a country that tries that and holds it as one of its ideals?
cant think where though!
filakia


mundarikos 40M
423 posts
5/17/2006 8:31 am

ps... flame...
got your deleted comments from lips.. shame, your two cents was worth a lot more.
rest assured youll never be deleted here
filia


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