Just as I'm starting to make friends here...  

mjtrcc 53M
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3/31/2006 4:59 pm

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Just as I'm starting to make friends here...


I'm bopping around the blogosphere this evening and see a post from Frogger1995 doing a Jeff Foxworthy impersonation, substituting Republicans for rednecks.

Now, I'm about as apolitical as it gets. Stay out of my wallet, stay out of my bedroom and we're good. Furthermore, Mom always taught me it was impolite to talk politcs and reigion in a social setting (which I consider AdultFriendFinder to be). But I don't like ad hominems, no matter where they come from. So, at the risk of offending my new friends, here's her post with my rebuttal.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game, y'all.

Frogger's Post
1. You own more than 5 things made with a pattern of the American flag on it

2. You own more than 5 things made with a pattern of the Confederate flag on it

3. You own BOTH more than 5 things made with a pattern of the American flag on it AND more than 5 things made with a pattern of the Confederate flag on it... and don't realize the irony of it.

4. You hate the French without being able to articulate why you hate the French

5. You hate Hillary Clinton without being able to articulate why you hate Hillary Clinton.

6. You are unemployed and illiterate and vote against your interest.

7. You are obscenely wealthy and vote in favor of your interests.

8. You base who you vote for on the number of times a day you think they pray.

9. You believe Christianity is under attack

10. You think Tom Delay is being unfairly persecuted

11. Your biggest concern with driving a behemoth sized SUV is the cost of gas and not it's effect on the environment (or for that matter, taking up two fucking spaces in a parking lot)

12. Your favorite source of news starts with an F and ends in lies, half truths, and the official Bush agenda.

13. You believe Iraq was somehow involved with 9/11

14. You think Illegal Immigration, Homosexual Rights, and Terrorism are the biggest problems this country is facing today

15. You think the 1st Amendment was created to protect Religion from Government (try vice versa dipwad)

16. You think the 2nd Amendment was created specifically so that you could personally own more than 10 guns... which you do

17. You have no idea what the other amendments are.

18. You don't see the irony in creating an Amendment to ban homosexuality... which you, of course, also fully support.

19. You think it's better for a child to be raised in foster care than by a single parent or a gay couple

20. You think the media is too liberal

My response:

Way to stir that puddin', Frogger!

1-3: The only thing I own with an American flag on it is my American flag, which I fly daily and store respectfully as a tribute to the fallen and a gesture of gratitude for their sacrifice. I own nothing with a Confederate flag on it, because I find it's symbolism repellent. The symbolism, by the way, is a result of Southern governors rallying bigots around it during the civil rights movement. Those governors, by the way, were Democrats to a man. Irony, indeed.

4: I don't hate the French. Once you leave the xenophobic snobbery of Paris they are the loveliest, most gracious people on earth. I do pity the French elite for their xenophobia. Also, I see the illegals in the US demonstrating for the privilege to work, then juxtapose it with the youth of France demonstrating for the privilege not to work and be paid anyway, and know which problem I'd rather have.

5-8, 10: You and I probably have different jobs. But Job 1 for both of us is exactly the same: Keep my job until a better job presents itself. In that regard, politicians of either party are just like you and me. Unlike you and me, politicians undergo a grueling, expensive, invasive and protracted interview process to which the absolute best candidates would never subject themselves. Unlike you and me, these mediocrities must undergo this process at regular intervals in order to keep their job. Unlike you and me, those who are willing to debase themselves enough to pass the interview process choose for themselves how much they are paid, what their benefit plan will be, and how much they get as a pension should they leave the job. Unlike you and me, their pay isn't based on the quality or quantity of their work, and isn't based on the relative health or weakness of the company. It's a cushy job with almost no supervision, and it's no wonder someone who whores himself to get the job would whore himself once in the job. Neither party has a monopoly on vice, virtue or intelligence. For every convicted Duke Cunningham, there is a convicted Jim Traficant. For every embarrassment like Strom Thurmond, there's an embarrassment like Cynthia McKinney.

9: I don't think Christianity is under attack, but I can't help but feel that Christian-bashing is one of the last "safe" bigotries in our society.

11: Modern autos of all types go farther on a tank of gas and pollute less than at any point in history. The price of petroleum affects the price of everything delivered by something that runs on petroleum products, and that's a problem even for those driving a Prius. The SUV was my wife's idea, and I'm divorcing her.

12, 20: My favorite source for news is The Daily Show, but I don't mistake that for journalism, either. J Schools long ago ceased to teach the difference between an angle and a slant.

13: Nope, not going to try to defend the Iraq invasion on the basis of a link to the 9/11 hijackers. That's why we invaded Afghanistan. But hey, 35 million people no longer fear dying by the hundred-thousands because they practice an unapproved flavor of Islam or dare oppose the government, so maybe the whole thing wasn't a complete waste. We now have troops stationed in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Dubai, Iraq and Afghanistan, and have a very close military ally in Pakistan. Go get your atlas, and remember we had this chat 18 months from now.

14: Well, two out of three ain't bad. Terrorism is a real threat, just ask the terrorists. Our porous borders make the threat even more real. Immigration isn't the problem. Letting people live here under the radar is. I've actually been impressed by the recent bi-partisanship on this issue. I'll be interested to see the final bill. Homosexuals? So much fun to party with, unless they're not!

15-18: Ok, you got me. I'd probably have to dig out my copy of the Constitution once we got past the first 10 amendments. But it's interesting to note that the Founders intended The Constitution to be a constraint on government, not on the governed, and the two times we screwed that up, we got income taxes and Prohibition. Well, at least we got Prohibition repealed.

19: I think it's best for a child to be raised where it will do the child the most good.

I'm curious what you think my politics are - should you hug my elephant or kiss my ass?

Good, thought provoking post...

Holly_Would 105F

3/31/2006 6:18 pm

I think this is a wonderful apolitical political post!

You kept to the issues, stayed on topic, and never sunk to mudslinging, name calling, nor low blows. Now if only all discussion of today's (and yesterday's and tomorrow's) issues could be so civil...we might even solve a problem or two!

I would never venture to guess your political leanings...while I have a thought or two in the back of my mind, I too was raised to not discuss certain things if one wishes to retain friendships. Now if this were truly one-on-one, I might reconsider.

Btw...I had read Frogger's post earlier and had started to respond...then quickly reconsidered; not wishing to bring my own politics into this blogging arena. I am still happy with that choice, as I am not sure how it would have come across nor the impact; however, I have complete respect for your addressing of the post.

Thanks for the intriguing thoughts for today!


piamatter 44F

3/31/2006 6:38 pm

As to petting the elephand's trunk or kissing yr ass.... these might help:

Democrats name their children after currently-popular sports figures, politicians, and entertainers. Republican children are named after their parents or grandparents, according to where the money is.

Republicans tend to keep their shades drawn, although there is seldom any reason why they should. Democrats ought to, but don't.

Republicans study the financial pages of the newspaper. Democrats put them in the bottom of the bird cage.

Most of the stuff alongside the road has been thrown out of car windows by Democrats.

Republicans raise dahlias, Dalmatians, and eyebrows. Democrats raise Airedales, kids, and taxes.

Democrats eat the fish they catch. Republicans hang them on the wall.

Republican boys date Democratic girls. They plan to marry Republican girls, but feel that they're entitled to a little fun first.

Democrats make plans and then do something else. Republicans follow the plans their grandfathers made.

I really enjoyed your well thought, well written post.
Hope you get a few laughs from the above,
Pia


AltumHunksUnite 53M

3/31/2006 7:00 pm

Kudos for a successful post dealing with politics.

I've generally stayed away from politics in my own blog, mostly because it's such a polarizing topic.

Let me drive. I like the view


mjtrcc 53M

3/31/2006 7:18 pm

    Quoting Holly_Would:
    I think this is a wonderful apolitical political post!

    You kept to the issues, stayed on topic, and never sunk to mudslinging, name calling, nor low blows. Now if only all discussion of today's (and yesterday's and tomorrow's) issues could be so civil...we might even solve a problem or two!

    I would never venture to guess your political leanings...while I have a thought or two in the back of my mind, I too was raised to not discuss certain things if one wishes to retain friendships. Now if this were truly one-on-one, I might reconsider.

    Btw...I had read Frogger's post earlier and had started to respond...then quickly reconsidered; not wishing to bring my own politics into this blogging arena. I am still happy with that choice, as I am not sure how it would have come across nor the impact; however, I have complete respect for your addressing of the post.

    Thanks for the intriguing thoughts for today!
Thanks, Holly. I very seldom dip my toe in this particular kiddie pool, but a list like that just screams to be addressed, even if i agree with some of it.

I'm glad my ramblings intrigued instead of enraged...


mjtrcc 53M

3/31/2006 7:21 pm

    Quoting piamatter:
    As to petting the elephand's trunk or kissing yr ass.... these might help:

    Democrats name their children after currently-popular sports figures, politicians, and entertainers. Republican children are named after their parents or grandparents, according to where the money is.

    Republicans tend to keep their shades drawn, although there is seldom any reason why they should. Democrats ought to, but don't.

    Republicans study the financial pages of the newspaper. Democrats put them in the bottom of the bird cage.

    Most of the stuff alongside the road has been thrown out of car windows by Democrats.

    Republicans raise dahlias, Dalmatians, and eyebrows. Democrats raise Airedales, kids, and taxes.

    Democrats eat the fish they catch. Republicans hang them on the wall.

    Republican boys date Democratic girls. They plan to marry Republican girls, but feel that they're entitled to a little fun first.

    Democrats make plans and then do something else. Republicans follow the plans their grandfathers made.

    I really enjoyed your well thought, well written post.
    Hope you get a few laughs from the above,
    Pia
ROFLMAO!

I'd never heard any of those before, Pia.

I'll add to them one of my favorite P. J. O'Rourke quotes, "Republicans will rob you blind. Democrats will leave you too poor to bother robbing."

Thanks as always for stopping by.


mjtrcc 53M

3/31/2006 8:15 pm

    Quoting AltumHunksUnite:
    Kudos for a successful post dealing with politics.

    I've generally stayed away from politics in my own blog, mostly because it's such a polarizing topic.
Thin ice to be sure, my firend.


softnlush 53F

4/1/2006 4:33 am

I am totally so non political that I upset most people I know.I vote.. I pay my taxes and take it like a "man" so to speak..I have opinions on things..but rarely vocalize them..as mom said,you never talk religion or politics in "mixed" company LOL ..but I found this post to be amusing and did you sleep well?

~~~snl~~~


frogger1995 39F

4/1/2006 7:52 am

I agree it was well stated and like most amerians you fall somewhere in the middle...which to me makes you a rabbid right-wing conservative


mjtrcc 53M

4/1/2006 12:19 pm

    Quoting softnlush:
    I am totally so non political that I upset most people I know.I vote.. I pay my taxes and take it like a "man" so to speak..I have opinions on things..but rarely vocalize them..as mom said,you never talk religion or politics in "mixed" company LOL ..but I found this post to be amusing and did you sleep well?

    ~~~snl~~~
201 out of 205. Didn't sleep till 2, got up at 6. *yawn*


mjtrcc 53M

4/1/2006 12:20 pm

    Quoting frogger1995:
    I agree it was well stated and like most amerians you fall somewhere in the middle...which to me makes you a rabbid right-wing conservative
I'm foaming at the mouth cuz you visited, does that count?


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