seXXXual attraction and chemistry and string theory..  

lareina05 40F
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6/25/2005 9:10 am

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seXXXual attraction and chemistry and string theory..

Ok so this question is primarily for all you string theorists, medical practitioners and SEXperts...

What is it really that makes two people share an immediately bond or CHEMISTRY?

I know that pheromones have been said to be the contributing factor for chemical attractions, but what about DNA and genetic makeup of cells.

Why I ask this...

One of the facets of string theory proposes that our DNA (and the constitutional make-up of all things really) consists of a rhythmic formula or a series of vibrations that inform each cell and basically make you YOU (a lot more complex than this of course but this is the short version). Pretty much like a musical composition. So accordinglly we are walking compositions, with complexities far beyond the scope of what we can probably imagine.

While showering today and playing my music..I began to wonder if the effect that music has on one's disposition is directly related to our DNA...

(I.e the music we listen to can "realign" our moods and temperment setting our DNA back on track if you will so that when we're in a F@$%!ED up mood the right music has us back on track in no time...I say the "right" music because I'm making the hypothesis that what is "right" is relative)

That being said I went on further to contemplate the thought that if we are all walking symphonies then surely our senses can attune to someone elses music without much "logical" explanation. That person could just make us feel good...Good Vibrations...(yes I know it sounds really out there but perhaps that phrase has some scientific truth to it after all).

I would guess that each person's "notes / score" would make them walk/talk/think/laugh/ act in the way that would strike our attention without us really knowing why.

(I.e You're walking down the street and you see a woman / man who is not particularly beautiful but makes you want to know more about them... or ...you find yourself "fancying" a short/fat/bald man or woman (LO...it happens)

Is it a far stretch of the imagination to deduce that if string theorists are correct then our sexual/chemical attractions to another individual are more than perfect timing and more like perfect tuning?

Very interested in hearing your thoughts on the matter...

Have a great weekend!


summerlover2007 39M

6/26/2005 7:38 pm

I reccomend learning more about string theory. It really has to do with uniting the four fundamental forces (gravity, electro-magnetic, weak nuclear and strong nuclear) and is only a theory, very much yet to be proven. As far as its application to DNA, it really seems unfounded. There are almost certainly genetic factors that cause attraction between certain people (for example most people date within there own race, and there is good reason to belive that this is because of more than just social/cultural programming.) In the end there is probably a large stochastic element involved, certain people just happen to meet at the right place, right time and in the right respective moods and things work. Food for thought.


lareina05 40F

6/28/2005 9:21 pm

Hey there Summerlover2007!

I’m really glad you took the time to respond.

I’ve been looking for free thinking intellectuals like yourself to “rub shoulders” with in this forum. However it must be said that I hesitated to respond to your post after reading it. I suddenly realized that my invitation to receiving feedback from persons in the field might raise the hackles on the backs of those who are accustomed to discussing such topics only when considering factual data to back it up.

I’m somewhat aware of how string theory works though obviously not a physicist. I hope I didn’t give anyone that impression. I’m simply fascinated with the theory and the enormous potential that could lie within our grasp if it is proven true. Though I realize that for persons involved with this theory on a professional level...so called contemplation of it without solid data can only be circular at best….

Is my line of questioning completely invalid without a solid equation?

Summerlover’s Statement:

I reccomend learning more about string theory. It really has to do with uniting the four fundamental forces (gravity, electro-magnetic, weak nuclear and strong nuclear) and is only a theory, very much yet to be proven. As far as its application to DNA, it really seems unfounded. There are almost certainly genetic factors that cause attraction between certain people (for example most people date within there own race, and there is good reason to belive that this is because of more than just social/cultural programming.) In the end there is probably a large stochastic element involved, certain people just happen to meet at the right place, right time and in the right respective moods and things work. Food for thought

My understanding was that …

String theory is really the theory to unify all theories. And yes it is just a concept. Which, scientifically speaking, is a line of reasoning to support an idea that has never been proven WHILE being supported by other lines of reasoning that we accept as truth. Sort of like our perception of the wind. (When we witness a strong wind blowing what we’re really observing are dust particles being stirred in the”air” because atmospheric gas is invisible and therefore has, in and of itself, never been seen. We further recognize it by its composition and properties and the affects these have on other gases).

Similarly, the “strings” referred to in string theory have never been seen. However, we presume them to be evident in the same fairly loose way that quantum mechanics defines the properties of an atom. We conclude that the vibrations occurring are a result of energy and that the higher the frequency, the faster / harder the vibration and of therefore the greater the mass… It is further reasonable to assume that something is vibrating though we may not know what. String theory follows this same principle.

A string is proposed to be smaller than a chromosome and have a generic frequency that can carry many additional overtones (minor frequencies)…sort of like a singer and octave range (think Mariah Carey or Celine Dionne compared to joe schmoe or Jane doe in the shower ‒ both can make the same generic sound but each singer’s octave range or lack thereof determines how melodic and, harmonious or how poorly and out of tune it comes out). Further these overtones determine what particles these strings produce. Theorists suggest that our entire universe is a series of strings and that all matter is made up of an infinite number of tiny vibrating strings.

Because string theory deals with matter at the sub-atomic level I ventured to make the logical leap to pondering its relevance / influence on life at the atomic level, etc.

Understanding the basic principals of string theory simply gave way to new thoughts about why some of us tend to share unspoken bonds with those whom we experience a mutual sexually attraction to.

The studies surrounding string theory are always changing course. Is there any individual who possesses a solid constant equation for proving string theory true in its entirety?
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I think that being in the right place at the right time helps seal the deal but it’s not going to change what you are attracted to. So while luck of the draw may put you and a potential partner together it’s not going to turn them into your soul mate. I strongly believe that how we respond to chance meetings and circumstantial encounters is largely based on our physical/chemical compositions and how this influences our verbal and non-verbal communication with a potential partner.


SatisFakshen 37M

6/30/2005 11:51 pm

You stated in your orignial blog:
"That being said I went on further to contemplate the thought that if we are all walking symphonies then surely our senses can attune to someone elses music without much "logical" explanation. That person could just make us feel good...Good Vibrations...(yes I know it sounds really out there but perhaps that phrase has some scientific truth to it after all). "

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"Is it a far stretch of the imagination to deduce that if string theorists are correct then our sexual/chemical attractions to another individual are more than perfect timing and more like perfect tuning? "
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I am not an expert on the string theory by any means. I consider myself a rookie to this field. I have two thought on this matter though. As far as the sexual/chemical attraction, I think our chemical make-up can help us "feel" the other person so to speak. We can feel good vibes like you said. But as far as sexual attraction goes, I think it's more of your background and then your pheromones. Sometimes people who live in predominantly black neighborhoods tend to prefer the other race because the difference in skin tone or seeing too much of their own race. And same goes for predominantly white neighborhoods. So suppose I'm a black guy in my neighborhood, I might think a perfectly good looking black girl is not attractive while the next person thinks she might be hot. Maybe that's because I have had a enough of black girls. Or sometimes society teaches you that one race or color is good while the other race is not. That sometimes taints your views and affinity towards certain races. It doesn't always taint your view but it can a lot of times. And after you have your selection of the type of women you like (whatever race you may incline towards) then you let your pheromones and hormones kick in. But you did mention in your initial blog that other factors can play a role, you were just giving the simplified version. I hope I sounded decent with this article even though I'm new to the topic. Feel free to comment.


lareina05 40F

7/1/2005 3:01 am

Heeey Satisfakshen,

Thank you for posting here! And thank you for being so sweet and diplomatic in stating your opinion ‒ MUAH!

I agree with you 100% on the fact that your background and environment can contribute to your choice in selecting a partner or your attraction to one for that matter.

I tend to wonder if the reason behind such choices, however, aren't more a part of our "individual" make up than we currently recognize (as a common majority).

For instance, yesterday I saw a most unlikely couple…
A very handsome well built Korean man with an attractive not so strikingly beautiful African American woman (she could have been of a non American extraction but you can't simply tell from observation alone - I didn't hear her speak nor did I hear him so my guess is that they were both American citizens by birth or raised and/or educated in English speaking countries/schools). She was his height about 5’10” ‒ 6’0”with 2 1/2" heels and had a massive pair of T & get-it-girl rump shaker A (wink wink ‒ giggles)

They were very obviously IN LOVE...holding hands laughing as they walked down a busy street in a very Latin, Asian (reflecting both south & east Asian ethnicities) community. Might I add that the two were very clearly proud to be with the other but not brazen about it. I was so thrilled to see them I wanted to go up and introduce myself.

They seemed like such an unlikely couple...so I couldn’t help but wonder about the circumstances surrounding their relationship:

1. Do their families know about their relationship (they were fairly young early 20's I'd guess). Both probably in college with very promising careers ahead of them...they both "looked" like the super intelligent rebellious type, which leads me to my second point of contemplation...

2. Does their intellect contribute to their open mindedness toward interracial relationships, conventional beauty (they seemed to disregard western and east-meets-west ideals); if they're attractions to each other blew right past conventions what made them so compelled to love each other, so completely enjoying one another's company?

3. Isn't their particular relationship typically (AND I REITERATE - TYPICALLY - generally meaning usually the case, but not with exception) taboo in both Korean and African-American households? Especially, since rarely is such a union seen as a means for acquiring position [wealth and political gain] ?

and the list goes on…

BTW (and this is in part a response to the issue you raise about social programming): the part that was so striking isn’t the fact that their were an Asian/African American couple, but that they were and Asian / African American couple that didn’t fit the traditional Asian woman / African ‒ American Man or Strikingly Beautiful African American Woman / Fairly Handsome Asian Man exception. With this equation, sewing wild oats is definitely a possibility and probably true on several levels but it didn’t come to mind because it seemed so pure and out in the open for all to see.

Apparently they both just listened to their own inner voices and responded to what they liked for themselves.

I applaud them…

Such an A-typical romance makes me think about relationships that are purely established out of a response to what an INDIVIDUAL NEEDS….(not a community, or race or family, simply what the individual wants and needs to be happy and feel satisfied).

They also seemed to be responding, he especially, to what they found beautiful in its own right.

[….or maybe he is a Gemini (see my other blog) LOL! ]

If this was the case then might there be a scientific explanation for the VIBES they feel with one another…since most other explanations don’t seem to work here?

But more specifically on your point about dating….I strongly believe that people limit themselves to dating one race because of pressure from society and/or lack of life acumen. How can one honestly say, “I’m only attracted to big dark brown black men with huge penises” or tall leggy redheads with 38 D’s or better? It’s ridiculous and the universe will inevitably find that one person to initiate the crack in your armor so that you can free your mind and live your best life!

It reminds me of all the men I saw while walking down 8th Avenue yesterday…Such a variety (sigh….). There were German, Italian, Russian, West African, African American, Dominican, Puerto Rican, Korean, Pakistani, Egyptian you name it. I found a few checking me out and hurriedly looking away as if it were such taboo to marvel at a young beautiful woman that doesn’t fit your dating profile that you have to catch yourself before you end up FUCKED! (no pun intended)

I dunno …if you ask me some of the most beautiful people (physically) are the product of interracial / multicultural relationships. And why should it be any less, than a response in kind to such a beautiful thing.

Love is Boundless...
and bound up in the composition of our inner song~

Besos


SatisFakshen 37M

7/6/2005 1:41 pm

I couldn't agree more. I think interracial relationships produce wonderful offspring. They are not only beautiful but smart as well. Take Trinidadians for isntance, their smartest and best athletes are a mix of brown and black skin. The mixed race, called dooglars in Trinidad (hope I spelled that right) produce the best track stars and also some of the smartest, sharpest kids in the country.

And now that you got me thinking, this affinity for different races might quite possibly be programmed in us as well and not just something we grow to be attracted to, like most common people would say.

I'll tell you what though: this is totally off the topic but I think that if everyone married someone of a different race for just one generation, there would be world peace. We wouldn't be caught up in what the Korean community thinks will make a good bride and what the African American community thinks would make a good husband. We wouldn't be caught up in the stereotypes and taboo. I see so much love and potential going to waste when I see stereotypes kick in. It's sad.

I got love for all though. I hope those problems that some ethnicities face never get in my way.

Peace and love to everyone.


SatisFakshen 37M

7/7/2005 12:26 pm

Oh by the way, today on the Discovery channel, there is going to be a show on the topic we have been discussing here on this blog. It's called the Anatomy of Sex and it's on at 10pm tonight. No, I'm not a pervert to be mentioning these types of shows to you, but it deals with the topic you were talking about so I thought I'd refer it to you, ahahah. And besisdes, it's past my bedtime anyhow, so I couldn't watch that.


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