Holy Moses  

rm_kneel_be4me 48M
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7/22/2006 10:53 am

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7/23/2006 6:02 pm

Holy Moses


Today was a good day for contemplation... It is rainy and overcast.

Because of my religious training my pondering often turn to religious things.

I was raised a christian, but I do not "call" myself a christian at this time.

I feel that the only way you can call yourself by any religious moniker is if you are trying to live up to what it means to be that religion. So if I wanted to call myself a christian I must strive to do everything I can to live the life that is laid out in the bible.

At the moment I find too many problems with christianity to call "IT" the one true religion. One thing that you have to accept is that Judaism is the basis or foundation to christianity. So if you want to call yourself a christian you must believe in Judaism to the point that the two religions split. Now I am NOT saying that Judaism is fake or untrue. I am just saying I have some things that just don't workout right in my brain.

OK here is one of them.....

Moses and the exodus from Egypt

If you look at the time line and the information given to you it doesn't seem to line up...

Moses was 120 years old when he died... he wandered the desert for 40 years before he died. Before that was when they escaped from egypt... S0 by that math Moses was around 80 years old when he lead the Hebrews out of Egypt... OK that is possible if you are willing to believe that moses lived to 120 and he was spry enough to make the journey at 80.

The next fact to look at happened allot earlier in Moses' life... according to the bible moses was raised by the Pharaohs daughter... Now the Pharaoh would have had many children, sons and daughters... The Bible also states that this Pharaoh died and the new Pharaoh (his son) cause great trouble for the Hebrews and that was why they needed out of egypt. Now this Pharaoh would be about the same age as Moses and History tells us he had around 26 children and multiple sons

So History lets us know that the Pharaohs first born son died when he was around 30 years old... That means the Pharaoh was around 50 years old before he had his first son... With that many children and that many sons it would be hard to believe he would have been that old when his son was born.

The next problem is the people reactions... In that time in history people died quite often, and Yes there would have been sadness... BUT with that many sons the reaction wouldn't have been so drastic. The Pharaoh would have been sad, upset, angry or any number of reactions... But he wouldn't have given away to the Hebrews all that he did just because one of his sons died... His sons lead their armies into battle fighting right along side the rest of the soldiers, so they are used to loosing sons.

Those are just some of the problems I see with just THAT part of the moses exodus story.


twirly_girl 47F

7/23/2006 2:58 pm

I'm wondering...
"So History lets us know that the Pharaohs first born son died when he was around 30 years old... That means the Pharaoh was around 50 years old before he had his first son... With that many children and that many sons it would be hard to believe he would have been that old when his son was born."
Wouldn't it be possible that he may not have had a son born from his other half until he was 50? All other children going back throughout history were not considered to be true children if born from a commoner or a servant. Which would also explain why he would be so upset at the loss of a son when he had so many other children. The other children were not future Pharaoh's.
Yes? No? Hiearchys don't typically include any children not born from royalty or not born from the union of marriage.
I have read the bible but honestly? It was so long ago that I don't remember details about ANYTHING. LOL

I really have no idea. Just throwing out some suggestions.


-Nikki


rm_kneel_be4me 48M
457 posts
7/23/2006 6:00 pm

The only problem with that is that he had either 27 children or 51 children (I say two numbers because I get Ramsees the second and Ramsees the third mixed up and one had 27 children and the other had 51) the one with 27 children had something like 13 sons, and the one with 51 children had like 25 sons... These were sons that they claimed as potential heirs. These were sons that were marked down in history and an illigitamate son didnt get marked down in history.


rm_kneel_be4me 48M
457 posts
7/23/2006 6:02 pm

The other thing I forgot to mention ... Is that Hebrew people and Egyptian people look nuthing alike.... Now true I dont know about 4500 years ago... but by looking at the glyphs and recreated facial structures to me they look very different... How then could they have mistaken a Hebrew for an Egyptian prince.


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