What do men really think of women who gangbang etc.?  

kitz6 59F
1045 posts
4/11/2006 9:49 am

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What do men really think of women who gangbang etc.?

Once upon a time, there was a law that said a husband must accept as his own all the children his wife produced. Now why would that sort of thing need to be legally addressed? Because, at that time, a married woman was not restricted in her interactions with other men. The religious atmosphere was one that celebrated life and the religious rituals as practiced involved sex. You know them as 'the Temple Whores' in the Bible. But they were not whores. They were just your average woman participating in her religion. As you might stop by today to say a prayer, light a candle, or meditate, so too would people, then, stop by for a bit of ritualized sex. Obviously some men must have complained. If they knew what they wrought!

The issues are classic! It is all about reproductive control and making sure your genes go forward into the next generation. If you are male and want to make absolutely sure that your genes carry on, you have to control the 'means of reproduction' aka women. What do you do? You make them wear burkhas, you get them to believe that sex is ONLY for reproduction, you get them believe that women do not enjoy sex but regard it as a 'duty' because men 'need' it, you cut their clits off and pull those nerves out by the roots, you beat them into submission, you extol the virtues of virginity and promote no sex before or outside of marriage to a man, you deliberately fail to educate them, you restrict their access to birth control, and you make them believe that women who are not subject to such things are whores and will not get to heaven.

You can see it today in the various double standards exhibited even in here where reproduction is not the issue. No married men. I have my man I do not need another. We only want women. And, my personal favorite, I'll fuck your woman but you cannot fuck mine - you, and she, only get to watch or maybe she'll be permitted to give you a mercy blowjob. Gee thanks, dude! Aren't you special. You also see it when some women backstab others to get a man. Ridiculous behavior. But it all comes down to what you were taught to believe.


_Safira 53F
11260 posts
4/11/2006 10:28 am

As you know, my reasons for gang-banging are not with the act itself, but rather acts that were perpetrated upon me at a young age.

I am a FIRM believer that if a sexual act (be it one-on-one, couplings, groups, etc.) are consensual (LOVE the word "sensual, Girlfriend; don't you???) and involves no children or animals ... HAVE AT IT! I am blessed to know many sexually liberated men and women ... and they love to share their stories with me.

What I was TAUGHT doesn't mean shit to me, especially because of the teachers. What I lave LEARNED means everything to me, especially because of the teachers.

*much love*

Safira


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kitz6 replies on 4/11/2006 10:59 am:
IT is often what we learn in life that is our real education.

sharewus2 40M/32F

4/11/2006 6:44 pm

AMEN!!!


rm_TexNVa 49M/48F
376 posts
4/12/2006 1:13 am

Ritualized sex. Still having trouble getting past that part of the post. Makes the gears in my mind spin. Perhaps I was born in the wrong age. Or perhaps I just don't remember my time during that age.

Female Genital Mutilation is one of, if not THE, most horrific practice a culture (it doesn't deserve that status because of it) does to women. The saddest thing is that it is done by the women to the girls because they have been convinced by the evil arguments you outline above to continue to inflict FGM on their own daughters. It makes me cry to think about it too long. And then I just want to pave their entire lands with glass. Grrrr.

To answer your title: it depends on the man. There are men on AdultFriendFinder who think it is disgusting. But I think based on sexyfitwoman's poll, that most would be interested in participating. Of course this doesn't address what they think of the women. Hmmmm. Personally, I think what doesn't hurt someone else or involved children or animals is fine. When I say hurt someone else I mean where you are injuring them or knowingly inflicting emotional or mental damage. Hurting someone's feelings because they think they "own" you doesn't count, that's their issue/problem. Also claw marks don't count If you like it, I saw go for it and I'll applaud your sexual maturity in choosing to live your sex life the way you want.

Ritualized Sex. Now I'm not going to get back to sleep.


kitz6 replies on 4/17/2006 7:43 am:
A little 'ritual' does you good, baby! *w*

kitz6 59F

4/12/2006 7:01 am

To give you guys an idea regarding FGM, lay out your penis on a sturdy flat surface, take a sharp hatchet, now chop your penis in half THWUNK! Got it?


rappahannock_man 61M
1102 posts
4/12/2006 9:21 am

"Fidelity is a commitment of emotional and physical intimacy with the partner; it means caring for the growth and fulfillment of each as a person; it is commitment to growth of the marital relationship itself; it requires honesty, openness, and trust; it involves willingness to explore ways of opening self to the partner at the deepest level; it includes openness to secondary relationships of emotional and potential sexual expression but with commitment to the primacy of the marriage.

Personal growth for either wife or husband may well require other intimate friendships with consent and seeking the best for each other. Secondary relationships can serve not only personal growth but also and at the same time serve the marriage itself. Raymond J. Lawrence, Episcopal chaplain and marriage counselor, observes that transmarital sexual relationships would only be considered "unfaithful" if done for inappropriate motives such as revenge or to hurt the other. But, "the refusal to open oneself to secondary sexual relationships can also be based upon inappropriate reasons. An emotionally immature, religiously self-proving desire for purity and innocence might be one. Another might be the resistance to sufficient autonomy and the persistence in a clinging dependency upon the spouse - which is different from mature interdependency. The high degree of intimacy possible in a good marriage seems to depend in no small measure upon the relative absence of possessiveness and clinging dependency.

Rosemary Ruether presses this further. Historically, she notes, monogamy has been closely linked with the private property relationship of man over woman in patriarchal society. Ruether wonders if we have not lifted up the wrong priority by apparently prizing sexual exclusivity over enduring, intimate companionship and personal fidelity. We might have more of the latter if we were not so insistent as a [i.e. RC] church on sexual exclusivity."

From James B. Nelson's Embodiment: An Approach to Sexuality and Christian Theology. Nelson is a retired UCC minister and professor, very much of the "Nothing is Immmoral" School that I so distrust.... Still, he offers occasional good insights.


kitz6 replies on 4/17/2006 7:42 am:
He does, indeed. Thank you, Rappa!

Perchance2000 57M

4/12/2006 4:59 pm

Rules, rules - supposedly to make life easier, but in many cases to petrify existing standards, inluding property concepts. And once there is a rule, there has to be another, and another - until there is a complex set that makes people trip up and give the guardians of the rules and "proper" behavior even more control, including (supposedly and most erroneously) to inflict pain upon others. Homo homini lupus. Vivat Kitz, vivant liberatores inhibitorii.


warmandsexy52 64M
13164 posts
4/13/2006 2:41 am

I have a close friend who lives in the town of Corinth in Greece. I have stayed in Corinth twice, visiting the ruins of the Graeco-Roman city of Ancient Corinth on both occasions, standing in the very spot where Saint Paul allegedly preached in the forum. And I feel a sense of deep loss, for central to the religious and cultural life of this highly sophisticated ancient city were the Etaira - the Etaira, dismissed by early and subsequent Christians as "Temple Whores" in their bid to destroy a competing belief system - a bid that turned out not only to be successful, but permanently made respectable by Saint Paul's letters to the Corinthians.

It's hard to describe in detail the complex social role that the Etaira played within the confines of a comment, but they were not whores, any more than the japanese geisha would be thought of being so. What I do know is their disappearance and subsequent dishonouring was a sociopolitical one arising from hegemony, not an inherent deficiency in the belief system itself.

I remember my father telling me that he and my mother got married "to have children" and there was some truth in that, although it wasn't entirely true, but it does describe the parameters of sexual values we were brought up with. I contrast that with how my own ideas have evolved and how there is be a sexual dimension to a friendship that may or may not develop and whatever its course it's a perfectly natural one, so long as the understandings are clear.

I would love to come back fifty years from now and see what our sexual mores have become and where they have taken us.

warm xx


DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
4/14/2006 10:53 pm

I'm not religious and have never been, therefore I don't see the relevance of your post, at least as it pertains to me.

In my opinion, any man who lets his wife fuck other men is less of a man. I just don't believe in letting other guys taste something that is yours. It's a sense of ownership, and that's how I see it.

I've always felt that way, and I don't cheat either so I'm not hypocritical. Monogamy is what I believe in.

You can imagine how I feel about gangbangs. I prefer intimacy in sex, one on one, and that could never be so with group sex.

It's not my flow.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


kitz6 replies on 4/16/2006 4:50 pm:
Then why are you here on a sex site?

DIVISION77 39M  
8321 posts
4/17/2006 1:24 am

A relationship.

A connection.

Something beyond the typical sexual flavor.

I can get that right now. I work in a gym. That's all around me.

I need alot more than that.

Mental compatibility, as well as a physical match.

I'm not the typical guy. Standards are completely different.

DIV

"My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death." -Tupac Shakur


kitz6 replies on 4/17/2006 7:41 am:
"In my opinion, any man who lets his wife fuck other men is less of a man. I just don't believe in letting other guys taste something that is yours. It's a sense of ownership, and that's how I see it." Possessiveness and being judgemental are extremely unattractive and soul-destroying traits. As if anyone can "own" anyone else!

rm_in2myharley 45M

4/19/2006 1:00 pm

I think the complainers might be the ones who started having their ways with the altar boys.

and I do enjoy them and appreciate their sexuality, their skills, their time, and all parts in between...


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