Hate....What is it Good For?  

impish_pixie 54F
2106 posts
6/21/2006 10:52 pm

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Hate....What is it Good For?

My heart has been heavy all day. I suppose like most people I catch the morning news while I'm getting dressed and ready for work. Half a ear listening while the rest of me concentrates on getting dressed. (NO...I'm not a morning person which is why I only tune in half a ear...the rest of me has to make sure my clothes match.) This morning was different. This morning I actually had to step out of the shower so I could hear what Matt Lauer was talking about. Oh I read the news the day before, I knew that two of our soldiers had been kidnapped and later found dead. I knew they had most likely been beheaded, and I prayed that it was quick and painless. Unfortunately, I also knew the truth.

I knew what hideous things had been done them because my daughter and I had discussed it the night before. She, because of the school she is in, is required to watch Al Jezeer daily news, (spelling is probably wrong Bulgy & Daph), and read the Baghdad newspaper. She called me because the horror and brutality she had witnessed would not leave her mind. See, Al Jezeer is not like our local stations here in the States, they aren't queasy about showing and/or telling EVERYTHING in all it's horrific glory. The worst we heard here was that they had been beheaded. Which we all knew would happen the minute we learned they had been taken. What we weren't told over here in "keep it clean & sanitary" America is that they were only able to identify these two very young men due to "pieces" they found with tattoo markings on them.

Now I don't know where you stand on this war, and frankly I don't really give a damn. This is America, you can stand for whatever you want to and I don't deny you that. But people, it's time to bring our children home. This is not our war. These people are NOT us, nor do they want to be like US. How arrogant we are to believe that the whole world wants to be us. They choose to live this way, they choose to allow hatred and the "blood lines" one is born into to guide their lives. Until we are all ready to strap bombs all over our bodies, or more, the bodies of our children and send them into a crowded market to die, we will never understand them. We, as American's cannot even understand the hatred of Northern Ireland, how could we ever expect to understand a Mother who is proud to have helped her child strap on those bombs knowing all the while that she sends him or her to die? Perhaps you can, but I cannot.

My heart broke for the parents of one of these men as Matt talked to them. Twenty -four years old, a life not yet lived; a promise not yet fulfilled. I cannot imagine the horror they live in. Bad enough to know your child is dead, but how would one wipe the images of such brutality and bestiality from their minds. How would a Mother ever smile again, or for that matter gain sanity again, knowing that her precious child had been hurt so viciously. I can hardly bear it myself. I have cried for them all day and prayed to God that I never know such pain. That I never know such hatred.

Yes, it is time. Whether you're a Republican or Democrat - you must know in your heart that it is time. You might ask yourself, "Where does she get off? You might wish to say that I am unpatriotic and un american...and you know what? That's fine with me. For again, this is America and you have that right. But I do too, and I earned my right. I served my country for 11 years, I am a veteran, are you? I was also "married" to the military for 20 years, so I have more than earned my right to disagree with my President and his administration. Does this mean I don't honor and support our Troops? NO...I'll challenge anyone who would even attempt to use that tired line of intimidation on me. It is because I support and HONOR these men and women that I write this.

More than that, I am a Mother, and I am damn tired of hearing that these young men and women are over there "Fighting for OUR Freedom". That is a lie you have been fed, WE are already FREE. They are over there fighting for the freedom of people who do not wish to be free. People who cannot see past a hatred that has simmered for hundreds of years. Hatred that is based on nothing more than which side of the line in the sand they were born on. ENOUGH. Bring our children HOME. Let them see to our homeland.

Maybe you agree, maybe you don't. I stumbled upon a website a while back that I'd like to share with you. A website with the motto, "I will no longer send my Son to kill the Son of another Mother." If you're interested, just try googling, "Another Mother For Peace".

If you think I'm just another one of those "insidious bleeding heart liberals", (and well..you'd be right about that), then please at least do me a favor - find an american telecast of Al Jezeer and watch it. Push and start a petition to have a list of all soldiers killed read on the daily news, EVERY day to HONOR their sacrifice, and for God sakes pay attention darling's because you're being hood-winked.

...Pixie now steps down from her soapbox and offers you a chair at the kitchen table, and huge hug of comfort. Blessed Be.

I make mistakes, I am out of control & at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best. ~Marilyn

rm_DaphneR 58F
7938 posts
6/21/2006 11:29 pm

We are always told to pick our battles. I think this battle or at least the way it's being fought is a wrong choice. They should have gone in, taken care of business and gotten out. It's being stretched out for no apparant reason from what I can see.

Have tongue, will use it. Repeatedly.

impish_pixie replies on 6/22/2006 5:29 pm:
Greed Daph...that would be the answer...followed closely by arrogance.

LIBlonde97 40F
1028 posts
6/22/2006 12:19 am

2,505 Americans have died so far in Iraq

... and nobody seems to give a shit.

It's like a "cost of doing business" or something. All I hear is people bitching about the price of gas. It's pretty sad.

I vote in every election, but I've never been into politics. I'm also really not into religion either so I think that is one of the reasons I have such particular disdain for our current administration.

But then again, it's not like there are any better choices out there.

I just don't believe that in a country as big as ours that we could ever have truly intelligent, adaptable leadership. Unfortunately, we are a nation ruled by the lowest common denominator. And god forbid you think it might be better anywhere else than here... sacriledge.

But it's not easy being the "biggest and the best"... As Spidey said...with great power comes great responsibility. I don't see America giving up the power anytime soon... so unfortunately, we as citizens have to pay the price for hegemony.

I, for one, couldn't care less about living in the land of "the biggest of the best"... hence my move to a country that is the smallest and "far from the best, but still pretty cool".

I will always be American, but I'm happy I won't be raising my children here. If I had to make a choice, I would give up my citizenship before I would let one of my children go to Iraq to fight this war.


impish_pixie replies on 6/22/2006 5:43 pm:
I give a shit. I give a really big shit. But then you already know that. It does give one a feeling of helplessness at times to know that tiny hearts have the power. But I try to remember that it's the little people who always make a difference. One voice, never ending until there is no choice but to listen.

Thank you for your words...You're my hero in so many ways. Life, laughter and joy I wish for you. (And don't forget...we still need to plan the American invasion of the Kiwi's with our Ben & Jerry's adventure...)

HBowt2 58F

6/22/2006 1:53 am

I think I can safely say that we get a better picture of what is happening over there than most Americans do....Our news is not sanitized or censored nor is it delivered from any political perception....I do watch your american news channels and am always amused how the news is slanted to fit your current political thinking depending on which channel is airing which news...
We have the history of Northern Ireland behind us and I know how killing achieves nothing...what positive achievements there has been has been because of the will of the people...it has occurred because people spoke out and carried other people with them....

impish_pixie replies on 6/22/2006 5:50 pm:
That's just it HBowt2....it is the WILL of the people, people who though afraid stand up and attempt to bring common sense into the picture. I hate robot mentality....it breeds apathy. The deadliest of faults. Thanks for your perspective and your words.

TzarsAmuseChant 41M
2854 posts
6/22/2006 3:03 am

It is time now? I disagree. I think we should have never been there to begin with. It is not our business, not our fight, not our goddamned oil.

I support the military. Through the National Guard, I am still in the military. If called, (and I still could be) I will go. I will kill if it is required, and I will die if my time comes, but I don't want to go, and anyone who who call me coward had better do it where I can't find them. I don't want to go because it is not right for us to be there. When I think that I might die to satisify George Bush's fucked up political plans, religious dreams, and tactical nightmares, I just want to scream. Let him send his OWN daughters, if the war on terror so fucking important. They won't go. None of the leader's children will ever go. It has been the same for eons. The poor and common fight the wars the rich and elite start among themselves.

Before it is said and done, I have little doubt that ol' Dubya will be widely considered the worst President we have ever had. Given the chance, I'd knock his goddamned teeth out. I'd say "I voted for you, you arrogant fuck, but just because the other guy had no brains or balls."

If he wants to know how a good President runs a country, he should look to George Washington. Our founding president, in his farewell address, warned us of engaging in "entangling alliances" with other countries.

I'm about to get off my soap box dear, but there is one last thing: We aren't free. I'll grant you that we have it better than anywhere else in the world, but we aren't free. Maybe we were once, but no more. Now it's just an illusion, a lie with just enough truth mixed in to make it seem true.

OK, I am done.

impish_pixie replies on 6/22/2006 6:04 pm:
Well...we don't really disagree darlin'...I feel the same way. And it's funny that you bring up his daughters, because lately, I have been very scared that we're not far off from a "draft" again. Army & Marines can't fill billets fast enough...so what do you do? You start a draft. And the poor and common shed their blood while being told how noble they are to "fight for our freedom". See...we're not really that far apart are we?

You know what I wonder? I wonder how He could still be strongly supported by all his party, and yet have his ratings so very low. Are they saying things in private that they won't say out loud? Hmmm...

There a lots of illusions here....I fear you may have stumbled upon one to horrible to grasp.

Thanks for coming by...I've missed you.

_Safira 53F
11260 posts
6/22/2006 3:58 am

I believe we should have a roll call ... I believe we should have more hugs.

I love you ...

Safira {=}

This is my blog - Comes With Warning Labels. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

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impish_pixie replies on 6/22/2006 6:07 pm:
If one is hugging another, there really is no room for hate.

I love you too...thanks!

rm_mtnravyn 60M
890 posts
6/22/2006 4:40 am

Well said. As a vet (21 yrs) I too have been appalled at those who try to equate this farce with WW2 or Vietnam. This was a war based on ego and lies and the deaths were, and are unecessary. During Vietnam it became dangerous to wear your uniform on liberty or leave becasue of the attitude in htis country, so I believe I can speak to what it means "to not support the troops." Too me it is criminal to put young men and women into harms way for a lie.

The evidence is in the attacks on those who do oppose the war. When you have no proof on whihc to base your postion, attack. I too vote and I will not be reelecting hte Rep or Sen I voted for prreviously becasue of their stance. I write letters and send emails to thme and have gotten replies that would strain tyhe credibility of a three year old. The more the voices are heard, the more likely something will change.

"Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. "
Robert A. Heinlein

I too will get off my soap box before I really get wound up. pixie keep it up lady I do believe you speak for the majority even though they tend to be silent.

impish_pixie replies on 6/22/2006 6:20 pm:
I totally agree mtnravyn...this is not the "Noble" war. This is a war fought for arrogance and greed. I will stand, I will speak, and I will honor every man and woman who comes home with the images of hate in their minds.

Thanks for stopping by and leaving your thoughts. As always, they are welcome...

angelofmercy5 58F
17881 posts
6/22/2006 5:11 am

Great post. So, when you stepped down off of your soap box....did your clothes match???? ~pulling out the chair to sit down and chat~

impish_pixie replies on 6/22/2006 6:27 pm:
Giggle...Today...yes. Other days...not so lucky. Can't wait for you to pull that chair out for real Ms. Angel.

LIBlonde97 40F
1028 posts
6/23/2006 1:03 pm

Yes! We need to enlighten New Zealand about GOOD ice cream!!!

I have one shameless plug today, but it's not for me. It just turned Saturday in Auckland, so it's officially my baby's birthday! He just went to bed, but I would love for him to wake up to a bunch of happy birthday wishes from everyone even though I can't be there today.
So if you could join me in saying

Happy Birthday Bulging Boy!

I'd so love it!



impish_pixie replies on 6/24/2006 8:16 am:
Well damn...I hope it's still Saturday there.....(I was MIA yesterday)... I know you're getting beyond excited...and i know you're the only thing he wants for his b-day. Hugs my sista cheesy....

kyplowboy22 61M

6/25/2006 8:58 am

You know Pix, as friends in private, away from the blogs, you and me banter and badger each other a lot on our political differences; you are 'A' and I am 'Z' pretty much on eco-social issues. And that is fine. That is what enhances a logical, moderate compromise of things in the end, in most cases. It is how we try to reach a modicum level of satisfaction that all can live with. It precludes the dominence of either end of the spectrum. And that is how it is supposed to work.

But when it comes to the military, I believe we are both 'M's'. As veterans ourselves, no matter the reasons for our service or choices that took us there, we understand the military and the way it works. When you raise your right hand and take the Oath of Enlistment, you swear to obey the orders of those Officers and Non-Commissioned Officers appointed over you. Period. You go where you are told to go and do what you are told to do when you get there. Period. You do not have the luxury of picking and chosing which orders to follow. There is no union to file grievences through. You in no way have any discretion as to national policy, other than your single vote in elections as a private citizen. You are simply there to carry out the orders of those appointed over you in their attempt to implement the policies of the Commander-in-Chief. Period. This is where you and I meet together and stand as one. We have been there, done that and have the t-shirt to prove it. If you have ever served, in any capacity, you will always be a servicemember to some extent. Your heart will always be where their asses are, so to speak. And they have my support 110%. Even when I do not support their presence there, the policies of our leaders that took them there, I will support them. Period. It is the right thing to do.

I do not like war. It is a terrible waste no matter how you look at it. For all concerned. The whole purpose of it is to force the will of one group of people on another through killing and tearing things up. No one wins in the end, just one is beat up worse than the other. Just like two bullies on the playgound. One has to rule supreme. It has been that way since the beginning of time, I suppose, and for all intents and purposes, I don't see it ever changing. People, by nature, are just greedy, selfish and egotistical as a species.

I am at a quandry as to what we, as a nation, need to do to get out of this friggin' mess we find ourselves in. I tend to agree with Fiver, we should have never been there in the first place. But we are. And the way to do that is in a change of national policy that quits pissing people off around the globe, so they quit sending hijacked planes into our cities. So they quit kidnapping our citizens aboad and murdering them or ransoming them. Maybe, as a nation, we need to look a little harder at isolationalism. I have some beliefs I challenge the policy makers to refute. I don't think they can. The Iran issue...ain't gonna happen, Israel won't allow it. Let the Israelis worry about them and we can stay home. North Korea...ain't gonna happen. China, South Korea, Russia and Japan ain't gonna allow that to happen. It's in their global region of responsibility, let them handle it and we can stay home. And all this other crap that goes on around the world, let the ones that live there handle it. Maybe it is just time to say to the war-torn regions of Africa and similar places around the world; nope, not one more dime til you quit the nonsence. If you want the streets of your country to run with the blood of your countrymen, fine. But you will not get one dime of aide from us and we will strive to get the rest of the world to boycott you too. Police yourself, we ain't coming.

I wanna see our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and all the little places most of you don't even know about. But, we are in the fray now, so how do you back out and extract yourself while obtaining any kind of future assurances that the terrorist elements of the world will just pass us by? I don't have that answer and any one who says they do are delusional. You just can't get the toothpaste back in the tube. We have stirred the proverbial 'hornets nest' here this time. Sooner or later we will get out of this mess, I suppose.

My suggestion would be this. Once we are free and clear of these attacks, just make it our policy to stay out of other peoples business unless it personally attacks us. That is what the military in this country was founded on. Defence. Not as a police force.

Once we make our extraction from this mess I would propose we make our policy something like this:

Have your civil wars, your corruption, your anything you want to haves, but leave us alone. We will only do business with you when you have stabiltiy in the region.

If we are attacked again, we will retaliate a thousand fold. But it will not be with one American boot on your soil. It will be from the sky. When we locate the area of the world the attack originated from, that will be ground zero. So, it would be in your interest to call back your dogs, get them on their chains and police yourself. I am sure with our new policy, you will agree that YOU don't want one of these terrorist cells training or operating in your village or city. The attack will be total and devastating and totally without warning. Tens, maybe hundreds of thousands will perish, it matters not to us. You are making the choice for or against it. It would, therefore, behoove you to run those fools out of your midst before you and yours suffer for their folly. And we ain't playing no more.

Love, Uncle Sam

impish_pixie replies on 6/26/2006 6:08 pm:
Beautifully written, beautifully said. I have no disagreements with you here. Thanks Unc...I thought we'd be on way different sides of the fence, but I'm incredibly surprised to see that we aren't. Brothers (sisters) in Arms more like it.

rm_goddess1946 105F
13518 posts
6/25/2006 4:23 pm

I just don't get it. It is as simple as that to me...

Just a little food for thought.............
If you really want to be happy, nobody can stop you...

impish_pixie replies on 6/26/2006 6:09 pm:
I don't either Mother Goddess...I just don't understand why we are determined to kill each other when love is so much more fun.

runzwithknives 59F

6/26/2006 6:14 am

You might wish to say that I am unpatriotic and un american...
And that statement made to anyone who exercises their freedom to speak is nothing but a Straw Man. Burn that fucker. And back to McCartheyism we go...

The cost of doing buisness here is way too high Hugs to you for speaking.

impish_pixie replies on 6/26/2006 6:11 pm:
And THANK you very much for taking the time to read it and understand it. It's scary how close we seem to be that whole "McCarthyism" thing isn't it? What's next? Is one branded a traitor because one doesn't agree with the GWB? Thanks for stopping by. Blessed Be...

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