Any Audio Experts Out There?  

heavensent11236 52F
2577 posts
7/13/2006 1:45 pm

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Any Audio Experts Out There?


I know what I like but just rather mechanically/audio and directionally challenged.

I'm looking to upgrade my stereo system, I want something thats going to shake the house if I want it to. I know I need an amplifier and to upgrade the speakers, the current ones can take 100 watts without blowing (yeah I know, they already shake the house but I want even better)!!!!

Pretend with me for just a little while that money is not an issue, just for the sake of pretending, I want to know, whats the best high performance out there?

Simply_Isoo 45M
55 posts
7/14/2006 5:25 am

heres my 2 cents for the best audio sound ever:
14 double 18'' EAW subwoofer cabinets. These cabinets are powered by 8 crown Macro-Tech 5000s for a total of 40,000 watts of true crystal clear bass. 8 proprietary EAW mid high cabinets with RCF components that include a 1000 watt 15'' RCF woofer and a 200 watt 2'' RCF horn in each cabinet that's surrounds 6 corners . 4 EAW 650 mid-high cabinets with a 15'' woofer, a 10'' woofer and 2'' horn that hangs above to give you a "concert" feel with 8, 2 downstairs and 6 upstairs, B and C 600 watt fill speakers that contain a 15'' woofer and a 2'' horn that fill the rest of the venue with the right amount of sound.
now all of this will be around 50 grands, but all your nedighbours will know whoos the boss.

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Yours Truly
Luciano


Simply_Isoo 45M
55 posts
7/14/2006 5:31 am

forget to tell you, if you want even a clear sound than this add 1 of each
1 EAW MX300i Close coupled electronic processor

1 Super X CX2300 High Precision crossover with multiband limiter

2 TOA Digital Processors DP-0204

1 TOA Matrix Unit DX-0808

1 MDX 2200 Composer Pro Audio Interactive Dynamics Processor

1 White Instruments Dual 1/3 Octave EQ

and now u got the ultimate sound system.
by the way if you get all this, and dont have enough space in your small apartment , ill gladly keep them in my house. lol.

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Yours Truly
Luciano


Xeryien 51M
1445 posts
7/14/2006 6:38 am

I'm guessing Iso knows audio!


heavensent11236 52F

7/14/2006 4:54 pm

You know for a fact I don't have enough room in the apartments they get for me Iso, so, I guess that means your hoping I'll have to keep the stuff at your house until I CAN get a house big enough????

Ok, so lets not dream THAT big, upgrade and get an amplifier and some killer speakers for say <6,000?????


Simply_Isoo 45M
55 posts
7/14/2006 8:07 pm

when u got time ill take you shoping.we can find u some good stuff for that money.

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Yours Truly
Luciano


teddy425 58M  
46 posts
7/30/2006 2:57 pm

Heaven,
This is my first time commenting on your blog, with something that I know about. I sold high fidelity audio back in the 80's for 5 years, from entry level to high end.
The Federal Trade Commission established standards back in the 60's for amplifier power, and for nearly thirty years those standards were adhered to by all of the manufacturers. Sadly, that's not the case anymore, which is why you see all in one box systems at WalMart making boastful claims of 500 to 1,000 watts of power.
All of my stuff is Harman/Kardon seperates, now 20 years old and still kicking ass.
As isoowannadou points out, you can spend as much on audio eqipment as you'd spend for a very nice car, but that's highly impractical for most people. My recommendation for good high quality audio equipment at a very fair price these days, is Onkyo. Very well made, and they still rate their equipment by the old FTC specs.
Lastly, 100 watts per channel/speaker of clean power is a lot, especially in an apartment setting. Also, most people don't realize that you can easily exceed a speakers' wattage rating if your amplifier is delivering clean power. By that, I mean the amps aren't clipping, like you hear in the typical ghetto cruiser... You can run 125 or even 150 watts through a well made speaker rated for 100 without a problem. Trust me, I've done it. Unless your speakers are falling apart, keep them, and put your money into the most wattage that you can afford.

Good Luck!
Teddy425


heavensent11236 52F

8/1/2006 3:36 pm

Thanks Teddy;

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, I don't usually read my own blogs when I have to work and been dong a load of that lately.
I actually have an Onkyo receiver, and yes it kicks ass. I have Polk speakers and have become VERY familiar with the it's too loud category when the apartment security people showed up at the door.
Seems the neighbors didn't care for the bass much.
Was just trying to determine if I needed an amp or new speakers, I have no problem with my receiver itself. I also didn't buy the all in one stereo system you referred to, while the route I did take was a lot more expensive I think I got a better system by buying everything individually.


teddy425 58M  
46 posts
8/6/2006 2:06 pm

Heaven, No problem, it's not like I responded to your most recent post, but thanks for replying nonetheless.
It sounds like you have the basis of a very good system. If you want to build on it, it would depend onwhether you have preamp outputs on your Onkyo. Some do, some don't. It depends on where it falls in the model lineup. If it does, you can buy a straight power amplifier, and keep the preamp and tuner section that you have, and get a second set of speakers if you like, and double your ability to piss off your neighbors.
If you don't have preamp outputs, you can add an integrated amplifier, one with tone and volume controls with no tuner, or take your receiver to any decent stereo tech, and have him add a set of preamp outputs.
The main reason that I've always liked seperates, is that you can upgrade the power, without losing a tuner or preamplifier that is just fine for your needs.

Good Luck, and thanks for the reply.
Teddy.


heavensent11236 52F

8/9/2006 5:51 pm

Lol Teddy, whatever you just said. The most I got out of that was I can hook up more speakers, meaning MORE POWER!!!!!!! As for if I have that preamp already built in doo-dad, ummm I dunno??? Something tells me I probably do, this receiver can do a SHIT load of things, most of which I haven't even bothered to read yet to figure it out. Mostly because it's like trying to read Latin, this do-hickey thing can do this if you hit that do-hikcey thing/button.

Adding stereo challenged to the directional and mechanical list.


Xeryien 51M
1445 posts
8/10/2006 8:36 am

Heaven, what model of Onkyo do you have? That would be a good place to start... (I have one too, I have only used Onkyo receivers for the last 20 years or so - they make some good stuff!)

Teddy - if'n you come back and I see your post, do you know of any places around Tampa that repair speakers? I have some JBL L100t that the woofers have rotted out, and I just want to replace the foam....


heavensent11236 52F

8/10/2006 4:51 pm

umm Xery, wheres the model number thingy? All I know it that its about 6 months old, big, one of their newest models. Which brings me to question 2, is polk or onkyo speakers better?


Xeryien 51M
1445 posts
8/12/2006 11:28 am

I have a TX-SR600 Receiver, which lets me do what I pretty much want to do. The Model Number on mine is on the bottom right hand corner of the face plate.

Of the two choices - I've never heard Onkyo speakers. It all comes down to a personal choice though - go listen and close your eyes, hit the speaker selection buttons randomly and just see which you like better! (or have the pimply little kid that works there do it for you to make it really random)

I bought my speakers 15 odd years ago (JBL L100t) and I picked them over the Polks that where available at the time - I don't really remember why - but Polk was the only other contender!

(And on a side note - the new kitten I just got decided to use the broken speaker as a landing pad for a jump - now the cone is crushed in... Silly me for leaving it out...)


teddy425 58M  
46 posts
8/13/2006 11:05 am

Heaven,

I didn't mean to flummox you with geekspeak... If you have a digital camera, take a close up pic of the rear panel, or if you have a scanner, scan the page of the owner's manual that has the drawing of the rear, and I could probably let you know. Adding a second pair of speakers WILL increase the amlifier power, but that's even more geekspeak....LOL

As for speakers, I'm not sure if Onkyo even makes them, but the conventional wisdom has always been that while the Japanese make great electronics, the Americans and Canadians make the best speakers. Ultimately, it's a personal choice. While I like all types of music, with the notable exception of , and really twangy country shit, I like jazz and classical the best, and therefore, I've always gone for sonic clarity over thump and sheer volume. The rule of thumb is, you need to double your amplifier power to achieve a 3 decibel increase in sound pressure level. That latin enough for you?

Xeryien,

There's a very good shop in Pinellas Park, Speakerworld, on Park Boulevard, that does an excellent job refoaming speakers. They've done mine. If you remove the drivers yourself and take them in, it's around $25.00 for a 10" speaker. More if you just take in the whole cabinet, and let them do everything. Last I checked, they are closed on Mon & Tue, so definitely call them before you hop in the car.


heavensent11236 52F

8/14/2006 2:35 pm

Teddy;

I couldn't agree with you more about the and twangy country, nothing gets on my nerves faster, well that and the euro stuff, could never get into that either. Will have to let you know about the other stuff, seems I'm suddenly about to move again. People in the Witness Protection Program have nothing on me


Xeryien 51M
1445 posts
8/15/2006 7:53 am

Teddy - Thanks for the info, now I just have to get my lazy ass over there and get it done!

Heaven - I just read your "moving" post - one bit of good news is that you 'll be able to see the back of your stereo with out having to worry about pulling wires out! Are you staying in the area?


teddy425 58M  
46 posts
8/15/2006 7:27 pm

X, you're welcome. Heaven, one good thing about moving, along with getting a clear look at your receiver's ass end, is that if you move into a smaller place, your stereo will sound louder....


heavensent11236 52F

8/16/2006 3:37 am

Xery- yes I am, only moving about 4.5 miles from where I currently live. I'm not nearly ready to leave Florida just yet, having entirely too much fun.

Teddy- actually, the place is MUCH larger, I don't think I could actually handle it if they got me into a place even smaller than the one I'm in now, meaning, I have claustophobic issues, lol.
I actually went to see it yesterday, before making the mistake of stopping at the Ford dealership, it's massive, secluded but VERY safe, gated community, nice gym about 3 doors down. I liked it VERY much!!!! Just may have to invest in more speakers is all


Xeryien 51M
1445 posts
8/16/2006 7:34 am

Yeah - after reading your shopping story - I'm scared to see what you bring home if you are just shopping for speakers.... The whole orchestra maybe?


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