The two faces of.......  

freetime648 52F
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7/1/2005 5:35 am

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The two faces of.......

After reading Mnfun952's blog and hearing all the fuss about Tom Cruise's anti-depressant comments, I feel the urge to comment on my own. Depression, Bi-polar syndrome, Schizophrenia, and all the other "mental" disorders that can be attributed to the taking of anti-depressants are as complex as anything. These diseases (which they are) are not something that you can take an aspirin and it will go away. They are serious disorders that can ruin a life. Too many people are committing suicide because they are denied or have refused the drug for fear of what stigma it will bring. Cruise's theory is due to his belief in Scientology. Fine, that is his thing, but, to condemn one that does not believe in that, is being absolutely arrogant. I have seen Bi-polarism first hand and if it is not treated it can be fatal, not only to the one suffering but to many around them. AND Bi-polar is a disorder which comes in many facets. Some may need to take medication all the time, some may need it to get them through the tough times, and some sufferers may not need it at all. But, any type will need help of some kind. Be it the anti-depressant, therapy, or intstitutionalization. Cruise is living in a world of make believe if he thinks that we, as humans, do not need help at times. It all is an imbalance in the brain. Sufferers cannot help that. So, I cannot help the fact that Tom Cruise needs to go to his Scientology "seminars" and he also needs to be quiet about the things he does not know about. Thanks and sorry if I bored ya all.

xx FREETIME648 xx

Mickey_884 33M

7/8/2005 5:23 pm

I don't understand how people can take Tom Cruise seriously when he acts the way he does at times. To me he seems like another celebrity on a bandwagon and perhaps not the sanest person in the world himself.

There have been extensive studies of medication for mental health disorders and enough drugs produced to fill a book. This is not for nothing.
In truth most mental health disorders are not clearly defined into certain brackets (despite labelling by doctors) as every body who suffers these problems have unique groups of symptoms and experiences with them.
In general the tablets (or depot injections) work well for a third of people, give a small benefit to the second third and have no useful effect for the remaining third, which is where alternative treatments can be more useful, but usually the drug is just switched until one that appears to work is found.

Mental health service users take medication as a mandatory requirement. Those with erratic behaviour who refuse tablets can be sectioned and injected with drugs by force if necessary. I have never known of any institutionalised patient not on tablets, many of which (such as clozapine) can be quite expensive to maintain and (alongside Lithium Carbonate or Sodium Valproate- both used for "bipolar disorder") require regular blood tests. Clozapine (an antipsychotic) can cost up to £74 a packet. SO why, if there are better treatments unaccompanied by the numerous side effects of tablets, does the use of medications persist?

Many people who have been in the unfortunate position of having to take tablets for this reason may not be completely fond of the idea. They will know how they also have negative side effects that can vary from extreme weight gain, constant tiredness, Parkinsonism (muscle stiffness and involuntary muscle spasm) and irritated bowels to burning more in the sun. This leads to other tablets being taken to combat the effect and what with antipsychotics, antimanics and antidepressants often used in combinations a fear of rattling whenever you move is imminent!
In short tablets are not some miracle cure (often they do not even address most symptoms), but they are the best treatment available.
Now THAT is being boring.

redmustang91 57M  
8656 posts
7/3/2005 10:51 am

The drugs are needed and great hepl to those who are properly diagnosed. Some depressed people self medicate with alcohol or amphetamines and then have mental prolblems and drug addiction! Scienetology is a religion and its believers are not basing their opinions on any scientific basis. Tom Cruise has a right to express his views but they are not rational and not to be followed by real needy people who can benefit from treatment!

Philosophy_N_Sex 49M/47F

7/1/2005 11:20 am

You are absolutly right, mental health is a very over looked topic. People are suddenly uncomfortable when you hear someone has a mental disorder. However if someone has diabetes no one really reacts.

Have extensive experience with a bi polar person, it is not fun.

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