Collecting Magic Bullets  

clevergirl4U 58F
1461 posts
7/19/2006 10:45 am

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Collecting Magic Bullets

I'm having some health problems and have decided to re-vamp my life for health and healing. I'll be undergoing traditional medical treatments, but want to also rely heavily on alternative medecine and an holistic lifestyle.

This week I'm researching the NUTRITIONAL aspect. (I'll be integrating lifestyle, exercise, the spiritual aspect, etc., as I go).

I switched to mostly fresh veggies, with a little protein and fewer carbs about 18 months ago, when I first got sick. But now I need to go deeper than that. For example, I bought a juicer this morning, and one meal per day will consist of juiced organic vegetables.

So, what is YOUR magic bullet for health, healing, a healthy immune and adrenal system, et al? Is there a particular food that you try to eat often because it had a positive effect on your sense of well-being? And NO, I don't mean chocolate! Is there a supplement or food stuff that you swear by?

I DO know that there is no one magic bullet, but maybe if I put them all together, I can put together a powerful arsenal Maybe a book that you would recommend? Appreciate any and all info sent my way....

According to my research to date, if I had eaten kale, sardines, ginseng and washed it all down with green tea, (and didn't step out in front of any buses) I could could count on living to 100!


Extramist 59M
14133 posts
7/19/2006 11:19 am

Sorry to hear about your health problems. I hope that everything works out for you. I take supplements and I have found that the one I can identify as having the most noticeable effect is calcium. I take it three times daily and probably exceed the minimum daily requirement by two to three times but it has helped alleviate a few minor problems of mine. Good luck to you

AKA The Clit Whisperer.


Supervy_Sage 50M

7/19/2006 11:40 am

It might be good to do a bit of research on other cultures. What country has people that live the longest. I bet when you find it, you will also find that it probably is the food. My grand father in-law lived to be 106. He was Okinawan. They eat a lot of veggies, fish stock based soups, seaweed, tofu and pork.

Now you might think, “How can pork be good for you?” But it is. The difference is the method of preparation. Okinawan pork is very different then American pork. You really can’t appreciate that fact until you tastes some in the soup they make with that pork in it.

So I say, if it comes in a can, wrapper or grocery freezer, avoid eating it. The only exception being maybe tofu. If you have never eaten tofu before, your first time can be the make or break for you. Make yourself a stir fry with fresh veggies, and chop up the tofu into small squares, and fry them with the veggies too. Maybe add a very small amount of salt for flavor. It is a good source of protein, and really good when make correctly.

If you want something else that will light you up, try a small amount of freshly shredded garlic on your salad. A small amount. It is good for you, and will literally spice your salad up. Go lite on it the first time.

Oh ya, don't forget WATER! Drink lots.

The Super Pervy Sage


TheCaspianLion 39M
4 posts
7/19/2006 12:08 pm

Im not sure why people get turned off from tofu. I think the trick is to marinade it. I use soy sauce mixed with a little sherry. You don't need to use a lot of it. Probably just a cultural thing, people in the U.S. don't even consider tofu.

Also an important thing is your mindset and being and staying positive. There doesn't seem to be any reason why the Chinese medicinal approach should work but it does. Some things like acupuncture really do work but fried up lizard skin, what's that do?

I think the thing that eastern medicine does really well that the western medicine completly ignores is keeping the patient confident. The person believes they will get better because his physician is telling him he will where the western doctor is saying things like you have x number of years to live or this procedure has a higher rate of success but a higher death rate during surgery vs another one that might be useless. It's all just negative.


ArtisticTwist75 41F
2505 posts
7/19/2006 12:59 pm

It's time for me to do an overhaul too... I'm going to watch this post and see if there is anything of use for me... Good to see you around Clever. I missed you for awhile.

Artistic


norprin5 55M

7/19/2006 2:03 pm

red meat and beer

King Nor XVIII


clevergirl4U 58F

7/19/2006 4:37 pm

    Quoting Extramist:
    Sorry to hear about your health problems. I hope that everything works out for you. I take supplements and I have found that the one I can identify as having the most noticeable effect is calcium. I take it three times daily and probably exceed the minimum daily requirement by two to three times but it has helped alleviate a few minor problems of mine. Good luck to you
Do you mind me asking how calcium supplements have helped? You can email me with info if you would rather.

I may give up dairy completely....because they contain anti-biotics and growth hormones, so you've reminded me that I WILL probably need to supplement calcium.

Thanks for info and visiting!


clevergirl4U 58F

7/19/2006 4:54 pm

    Quoting Supervy_Sage:
    It might be good to do a bit of research on other cultures. What country has people that live the longest. I bet when you find it, you will also find that it probably is the food. My grand father in-law lived to be 106. He was Okinawan. They eat a lot of veggies, fish stock based soups, seaweed, tofu and pork.

    Now you might think, “How can pork be good for you?” But it is. The difference is the method of preparation. Okinawan pork is very different then American pork. You really can’t appreciate that fact until you tastes some in the soup they make with that pork in it.

    So I say, if it comes in a can, wrapper or grocery freezer, avoid eating it. The only exception being maybe tofu. If you have never eaten tofu before, your first time can be the make or break for you. Make yourself a stir fry with fresh veggies, and chop up the tofu into small squares, and fry them with the veggies too. Maybe add a very small amount of salt for flavor. It is a good source of protein, and really good when make correctly.

    If you want something else that will light you up, try a small amount of freshly shredded garlic on your salad. A small amount. It is good for you, and will literally spice your salad up. Go lite on it the first time.

    Oh ya, don't forget WATER! Drink lots.
Investigating other cultures....very good advice! And I'm discovering that many of the foods your grandfather-in-law ate are what will be best for me....especially fish and seaweed. Learned about seaweed for first time today...loaded with iodine and good for thyroid function. No idea how to prepare it, but I will report back.

I may use fish and seafood as my only source of animal protein. It's hard to find pork in the US that isn't full of anti-biotics and growth hormones. Surprisingly, I've learned that soy products often disrupt thyroid function, so although I have really enjoyed tofu in the past, I may not use it anymore. Need to research it further.

Thanks for the great advice and for visiting!


clevergirl4U 58F

7/19/2006 5:06 pm

    Quoting TheCaspianLion:
    Im not sure why people get turned off from tofu. I think the trick is to marinade it. I use soy sauce mixed with a little sherry. You don't need to use a lot of it. Probably just a cultural thing, people in the U.S. don't even consider tofu.

    Also an important thing is your mindset and being and staying positive. There doesn't seem to be any reason why the Chinese medicinal approach should work but it does. Some things like acupuncture really do work but fried up lizard skin, what's that do?

    I think the thing that eastern medicine does really well that the western medicine completly ignores is keeping the patient confident. The person believes they will get better because his physician is telling him he will where the western doctor is saying things like you have x number of years to live or this procedure has a higher rate of success but a higher death rate during surgery vs another one that might be useless. It's all just negative.
I've always liked tofu....but I think you're right...one has to know how to make it taste good

I'm focused on my immune system and the function of the adrenal and thyroid systems in immunity. I read 2 articles today that claimed soy products often disrupt the thyroid, so I may decide against soy products. But for the general population, I think most would be better off eating soy protein over animal protein.

Agree completely that the whole approach of "X months to live" is counter-productive.(The patient could get run over by a bus the next day). Positive attitude matters when it comes to healing. I'm re-reading some of Andrew Weil's stuff, and he considers spiritual well-being an essential component to good health or healing.

Thanks so much for your input


clevergirl4U 58F

7/19/2006 5:13 pm

You're a mess, Nor


clevergirl4U 58F

7/19/2006 5:16 pm

    Quoting ArtisticTwist75:
    It's time for me to do an overhaul too... I'm going to watch this post and see if there is anything of use for me... Good to see you around Clever. I missed you for awhile.

    Artistic
Good to hear from you again, too!

When I'm finished researching, I'll probably write a post covering the high points and outlining MY plan. Hope you find it inspirational/motivational/instructional


aascrompn 42M
6444 posts
7/19/2006 6:47 pm

If it's cancer, email me... I have a holistic approach to it that I would love to share with you. Until then, I wish you well and keep you in my prayers...


AstirRelicLatah 64M
1993 posts
7/19/2006 8:09 pm

A great general book on envinronmental health issues and ways to deal with it is Detoxify or Die by Sherry Rogers. I highly recommend it. The advice in the book has had a huge impact on my health.

Good luck.


kyplowboy22 61M

7/19/2006 10:26 pm

Honey. The perfect food they call it. Easy to digest and no fats in it. I have been told that it has certain healing qualities as well. And even it does not, it's fun to eat. lol

kpb

PS: Hope you find whatever it is you need to get better, kid.


clevergirl4U 58F

7/20/2006 8:54 am

    Quoting AstirRelicLatah:
    A great general book on envinronmental health issues and ways to deal with it is Detoxify or Die by Sherry Rogers. I highly recommend it. The advice in the book has had a huge impact on my health.

    Good luck.
Thanks so much! Just ordered it from Amazon and look forward to the info! Found many good reviews online.


clevergirl4U 58F

7/20/2006 9:03 am

    Quoting kyplowboy22:
    Honey. The perfect food they call it. Easy to digest and no fats in it. I have been told that it has certain healing qualities as well. And even it does not, it's fun to eat. lol

    kpb

    PS: Hope you find whatever it is you need to get better, kid.
Had no idea just how potent honey can be in health and healing!! Quick searh online and found that it stimulates wound healing, both internally and externally...works as a natural antibiotic.(Has been applied to external wounds since eraly Egyptian times.) When eaten RAW and UNFILTERED, it contains B vitamins, minerals, enzymes that promote digestion, and bioflavonoids.

Great tip! Thanks


clevergirl4U 58F

7/20/2006 9:08 am

    Quoting humboldthonni:
    Echo kyplow's advice on honey...so much better for you than sugar.

    My mainstays are oatmeal every morning (for fiber), raisins, nuts, broccoli, cranberry/carrot juice and lots of water...I walk at least 2 miles per day for exercise. Perhaps Czech beer is good too?
Well, according to my research, you are eating an optimal diet! Well, mabe not the Czech beer? Didn't get many hits when I searched beer/holistic healing


TheRealThing655 48F
9558 posts
7/20/2006 1:59 pm

I'll be interested in hearing from you and others too. I could always use improvement. Honey though...just don't like it.
I hope you find what works for you and makes you feel better. Keep us posted.


swlaman1 65M

7/20/2006 9:35 pm

Well I subsist on a diet of TV dinners, canned soup, fruit, and beer so I’m about the last person to ask. Listen to humboldhonni and don’t underestimate the healing power of beer.

My take on this is one size does not fit all. What is a miracle cure for one is poison for another. All the testimonials touting whatever supplement, food group, herb. etc. are true. But just because they worked for Terry in Nebraska doesn’t mean they are going to work for you.

You doing what you need to do. Gather information, evaluate, test, review. When you find what works for you call it “The clevergirl Diet”. I think see an infomercial...

Peace AND health to you!


alex_200mm 57M
4960 posts
7/21/2006 7:25 am

One thing I know is that you shouldn't necessarily go with "organic foods are the best foods" in a dogmatic way. Unless you have a source of supply that is practically on top of you (an organic farm, not a health food store) where you can be assured that the product is fresh, you'd probably get more nutrients from commercial frozen vegetables. They are picked and packed quickly enough that they maintain the most nutritive value of packaged foods, and more benefit than organic foods picked in a couple of days ago.

Good luck!

Alex xo


clevergirl4U 58F

7/21/2006 3:43 pm

    Quoting swlaman1:
    Well I subsist on a diet of TV dinners, canned soup, fruit, and beer so I’m about the last person to ask. Listen to humboldhonni and don’t underestimate the healing power of beer.

    My take on this is one size does not fit all. What is a miracle cure for one is poison for another. All the testimonials touting whatever supplement, food group, herb. etc. are true. But just because they worked for Terry in Nebraska doesn’t mean they are going to work for you.

    You doing what you need to do. Gather information, evaluate, test, review. When you find what works for you call it “The clevergirl Diet”. I think see an infomercial...

    Peace AND health to you!
Good lord man! When I read that I wanted to rush over and cook you a "mercy meal"!

You are absolutely right, I have learned...we are not one size fits all...I am reading "The Metabolic Typing Diet" by William Wolcott. He believes that for genetic reasons, we are biochemically and metabolically different...we each process and utilze nutrients differently...i.e. "one man's meat is another man's poison", and he made my work MUCH more complicated with this information


swlaman1 65M

7/21/2006 5:11 pm

Mercy meals are gratefully accepted, and few and far between.

Peace.


clevergirl4U 58F

7/22/2006 6:30 am

    Quoting alex_200mm:
    One thing I know is that you shouldn't necessarily go with "organic foods are the best foods" in a dogmatic way. Unless you have a source of supply that is practically on top of you (an organic farm, not a health food store) where you can be assured that the product is fresh, you'd probably get more nutrients from commercial frozen vegetables. They are picked and packed quickly enough that they maintain the most nutritive value of packaged foods, and more benefit than organic foods picked in a couple of days ago.

    Good luck!

    Alex xo
Hey Alex...haven't seen you in awhile

You're right that food most recently off the vine is best nutritionally. AND having looked at the price of organic vegetables, I seriously doubt that I'll go 100% with the "organic label" when buying veggies for my juicer. I'll be using a massive amount of veggies each week.

There are two considerations with produce:

1) chemicals and pesticides
2) freshness/nutrient content

IDEALLY, buying from roadside produce stands that grow organic would be best, and we do have a couple here, but the selection is limited and seasonal.

I know that heat kills most of the enzymes and nutrients in produce....do you think that freezing would have the same effect?


alex_200mm 57M
4960 posts
7/22/2006 7:42 am

    Quoting clevergirl4U:
    Hey Alex...haven't seen you in awhile

    You're right that food most recently off the vine is best nutritionally. AND having looked at the price of organic vegetables, I seriously doubt that I'll go 100% with the "organic label" when buying veggies for my juicer. I'll be using a massive amount of veggies each week.

    There are two considerations with produce:

    1) chemicals and pesticides
    2) freshness/nutrient content

    IDEALLY, buying from roadside produce stands that grow organic would be best, and we do have a couple here, but the selection is limited and seasonal.

    I know that heat kills most of the enzymes and nutrients in produce....do you think that freezing would have the same effect?
Hi Clever...

so far as I know, freezing allows the food to retain its enzymes etc... It's only after about 6 months that deterioration seems to take place (in sealed packages--once the product is opened, it loses its nutrients more quickly because of loss of the seal), and I doubt that frozen vegetables are picked and stockpiled that far in advance... but any reputable packager should be able to tell you that through their 1-800 customer service line.

This info is based on half-remembered stuff from a few years ago, so I'd make sure it was correct before adopting it... but I have always found frozen veg's to be just as tasty and nutritious as fresh... and lots cheaper in winter!

Alex xo


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