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bulging_boy 49M
4912 posts
12/25/2005 3:04 pm

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1... 2... 3... Push!

Political Correctness?

It's something I struggle with, mainly because my humour is dark, twisted and generally sick. But despite that... I still value others feelings and wouldn't go out of my way to offend someone in a joke.

Which is why I'm going to hold myself back now.

I came across this mighty thing a while back and my reaction was just the same when I saw it again today.

It's called the Liberty Swing. And it's designed for people in wheelchairs.

On the surface I was thinking. Wow... that's quite a nice thing. Then I started thinking a bit more about that.

Mainly... Is this designed to let wheelchair bound individuals experience the joys of the swing? To make them feel less excluded? More accepted?

All I could think as I watched that empty apparatus for the better part of the day was... No one in their right mind would go in that fucking thing!

There's a fence around it for fucks sake! And a sign that says only for disabled people! Like that's not going to draw attention. Not to mention the fact it looks very similar to the cranes you see at the wharf.

Nope! I couldn't see any parent in their right mind wheeling someone onto that thing. Locking the wheels in place, shutting the front door and then...

Hmmm... how the fuck does it work? Do you stand behind and push? I wonder if it's been tested. God knows I've looked the other way and been smacked square in the guts as my daughter swung back into me. That thing would have killed me.

Has anyone seen this before? Or even better seen it in use.

Parapalegia isn't something freakish. Everyone will know someone who is confined to a wheelchair. But it just strikes me as a really odd thing.

If I was in a wheelchair, I'd go on it. But that is more to do with what I consider to be funny. I'd lock myself in and start screaming like I was having the worst time of my life. Just to see the looks on the faces of everyone around. I bet you more than anything that anyone who jumps on that beast will draw a crowd bigger than a suicide jumper.

So what do you think? Good or bad? Have you seen one? Would you laugh?

Go on. Be brave. Say what you think. I won't judge you for it. More likely I'll laugh.

rm_DaphneR 58F
7938 posts
12/25/2005 3:21 pm

I wonder if after you push it and get a double hernia they'd allow you to ride in it ...

Have tongue, will use it. Repeatedly.

bulging_boy 49M

12/25/2005 3:37 pm

I dunno Daph,

but I do know that shopping trolleys don't fit!

LIBlonde97 40F
1028 posts
12/25/2005 3:40 pm

Coming next to Auckland: Liberty Stilts for midgets, dwarves, little people (whatever the fuck the correct term is these days...)

I can't figure out this Liberty Swing. On the surface it seems like a nice idea... but isn't the whole idea to accept people's inherent limitations? Rather than to remind them of how different they are?

I mean you dont see any calculators with pictures on the keys made for blondes?!


pinkplaytoyz 50F

12/25/2005 4:48 pm

lmao, Oh my God, I have never heard of this swing until today. You have illuminated my darkened world! I don't know whether to laugh or cry...Is this thing really humane? maybe it has a crank like a baby's swing...Its too much, I can't deal with the visuals here...

(I actually have a cousin who's a paraplegic)

slidein2meplz 62F
1994 posts
12/25/2005 6:02 pm

I've never seen or heard of it either. Is this something in NZ? I'd be afraid of letting myself in something like that if I were in a wheel chair or one of my loved ones.

Did you folks know that in order for someone to get a wheelchair covered by insurance...say Medicare for instance... the patient has to prove all sorts of crap, has to have all sorts of "medical necessity" forms filled out by all sorts of doctors before Medicare will reimburse them for it.... but the patient, has to purchase these chairs on their own and then submit a claim to get reimbursed.

So if your paralized or there are other reasons you are wheel chair bound and you want one that does everything possible, like recline or even put in a "standing position" or any sort of "custom" thing you need it to do.... you have to practically beg Medicare to allow it.

When I was working in the medical billing thing... we had about 3 patients who all needed special chairs...and it took months and months of red tape and appeals and refilings and more medical necessity forms and just on and on....and even then....there was no real commitment by the insurance to accept it. So these patients pretty much took a chance and all they had left was hope that insurance would pay them back.

I was shocked ~~ actually more like mortified....that a person in need of a wheel chair...a special wheel chair had to go thru so much hassle from insurance.

I had no idea how hard it is for them to get them. These poor, poor people have all sorts of problems that happen to them as a result of sitting in wheel chairs for extended periods of time especially if they are unable to recline or even re-position the chair in any way...it causes them to get all sorts of sores, and it's just terrible the way they are treated and forced to prove why they need the chair to recline for instance.

Medicare and other health insurance companies ought to be ashamed of themselves. I wonder sometimes what some uppety upper big wig were to all of a sudden find themselves in a wheel chair....how'd they feel about it then?

I think it's humiliating to the person who needs it... bad enough that they need it to begin with, but to have to go thru what these insurance companies put them thru is unthinkable. Plus they have to pay for it...and hope they get reimbursed. These chairs can cost upwards of 20K . I never knew any of this until I was in medical billing... had no clue...shocking is what it is...downright shocking.

~~~ Just me, poppin to say HI! ~~

Lonelywoman56 60F

12/25/2005 6:53 pm

If I had a handicapped child I would put them in the swing, I wouldnt give a fucking shit what any one else thought. I don't know or care what is politically correct or not. I dont respect politics or the system, or medicare. Medicare pissed on my passed father who was a vet, etc, prudential and AARP screwed him too. Anyone who believes the system will help them as far as wheelchairs or anything is a fool. You have to take care of yourself the best you can and then try to help your loved ones. I would put my disabled child on the swing and get on with them. We would stay on untill we figured out a way to make it work. And we would laugh and have fun.

bardicman 50M

12/25/2005 6:55 pm

I am not so sure what Slide was saying...

All I know is we have to do this Bulge..


I am not dead yet

rm_1hotwahine 63F
21091 posts
12/25/2005 8:04 pm

What I think is this-
You are a great argument against political correctness.

(I'll check back later to see if I have to grovel and explain myself)

Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]

rm_saintlianna 45F
15466 posts
12/25/2005 8:17 pm

I hate to tell you this but there are kids with trachiotomys that cannot get out of their damn wheelchairs that would love to have the chance to swing just once like a normal kid, and where the fuck else are they gonna do it? Who gives a good goddamn how it runs, but I am biased and you know why.

bulging_boy 49M

12/25/2005 9:37 pm

Hey Blonde,

They have those already for people who need to reach the top shelf at the supermarket

bulging_boy 49M

12/25/2005 9:43 pm

Sorry Trav,

I can't make out what you're saying with Bard in your mouth


bulging_boy 49M

12/25/2005 9:44 pm

Sure is pink,

That's the photo I took from the park it sits in.

bulging_boy 49M

12/25/2005 10:03 pm

I think it's an across the board thing Slide,

Insurance companies just suck!

bulging_boy 49M

12/25/2005 10:05 pm

Yep lonelywoman,

Sometimes it is a case of looking out for yourself.

and yep... fuck what anyone thinks!

bulging_boy 49M

12/25/2005 10:06 pm

Yes Bard

We DO!

bulging_boy 49M

12/25/2005 10:09 pm

I have no idea candy,

I couldn't get close enough to tell. There's a big fence around it, and not being with a wheelchair... I thought I might get shot if I breached the perimeter.

bulging_boy 49M

12/25/2005 10:11 pm

LOL Wahine,

I have no fucking idea what you mean!


bulging_boy 49M

12/25/2005 10:17 pm

Sure do Saint,

It just struck me as a kind of freedom for the price of humiliation.

The way it's set out with a fucking fence around it, just makes the thing more freakish, and given that all the times I've seen it, there's never been anyone on it... makes me think everyone else sees it that way too!

I have nothing against the concept at all. I know there's people with disabilities that would love the opportunity to do things that 'normal' people do... and almost at any cost too.

I just wished they could have found a better compromise.

safereturns 47F

12/25/2005 10:43 pm

I think Medicare forms are reasonable and appropriate. Valid claims are paid in advance by DME manufacturers, costing the client NOTHING...and if by some chance they don't qualify the manufacturer eats the cost. In America, if you NEED a $20k wheelchair, you GET it. There is, however, a big difference between need and want.

Clients do NOT have to go out of pocket for DME--if the claim will be processed, DME manufacturers will readily front them the equipment. If it is "luxury" equipment, then the manufacturer may decline--but there is so much profit in DME, if you genuinely need it, you WILL get it. Simple economics. It's profitable for the manufacturer.

Decubitus ulcers are a big deal for bed or chair bound patients, I agree--but that does not mean they are not afforded adequate healthcare via Medicare.

EyeCandy33333 44F
761 posts
12/25/2005 10:48 pm

Medicare sucks royally and this new prescription Medicare-oooooooo-the elderly depending on it for rx's -they have not done them right-there is soo much confusion-they have clearly made it unclear for them!

Now this swing and label- handicapped thing and the fence-somehow I just don't see putting someone in that seat or constructing a swing like that-most probably will be not used.When someone does try it-it most probably will be broken.

Sister_Act_4_You 38F/38F

12/25/2005 11:09 pm

All I know is that I was laughing really hard reading your account of it! Hmmm....uh oh; does that mean I have the same kind of sense of humour you do?


nedthebundler 56M/59F

12/25/2005 11:13 pm

Tough one there Bulge. I don't personally know many people with obvious limitations (if fucking moron counts, then I know more than I need to), but my take is that all anyone really wants is to be accepted for who they are, not what they can or cannot do. To me, these adapted pieces of playground equipment almost seem to be more of an apology for the guilt that the able bodied feel, as much as they are an attempt to satisify the lawyers.
Why do I feel like I may burn in hell for saying that?

Madness takes its toll. Exact change please!

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 1:01 am

Hiya safe,

Thanks for giving us another view on the insurance issue.

Having no idea what the fuck medicare is...

I'm still in the dark!

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 1:04 am

Who knows Terrie,

I sure don't. I've watched that thing like a hawk for hours and noone's gone near it.

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 1:07 am


You know it is. You probably also know that *that* was the sanitized version.

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 1:14 am

No idea Ned,

That was the most succinct summary of what I was trying to get out myself.

We are victims of our own guilt and this is preyed on by so many charities that it makes me jaded. Of course that is just *my* opinion

helga_hansen 49F  
1987 posts
12/26/2005 3:20 am

Hhhmmm... is this when I tell you that some town councils in the UK have banned see-saws in play parks, because it discriminates against fat kids. I K-I-D Y-O-U N-O-T!!! Everything has been designed so that children can't possibly injure themselves anymore (it's the fear of being sued that has made things this way).

I remember hanging upside down on a Jungle Jim when I was a kid, and having my front teeth knocked out when my mouth came into contact with another kid's knee. Okay, so now I have to place my teeth in a glass by my bed every night... JUST KIDDING!! My point is... THE WORLD HAS GONE MAD!!

Would you get into trouble for playing on that swing if you weren't disabled? And what percentage of your population is disabled that it warrants one of those swings in your park?


PS. Thanks for allowing me to rant. Okay, so you didn't actually allow me, I just sorta took over. I'll clean up the mess before I go.

Love, hugs and kisses from ♥♥HH♥♥

DTduzDallas 50F

12/26/2005 5:53 am

LMFAO you are SO not right.

rm_saintlianna 45F
15466 posts
12/26/2005 7:54 am

Could you tell Mind Fucker I think I love him? And I understand your point, but if you are watching that thing like a hawk I think its time to buy a DVD player.

rm_Bct2Esi 51M/50F
1375 posts
12/26/2005 8:40 am

I have never seen one, but then again I live in the backhills of back water colorado.

hugs and smiles

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 11:53 am

Yep Helga,

There does seem to be more of that going on in the world.

No worries about the mess... there's hardly any

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 11:56 am

MindFucker, you are absolutely right as well.

It's definately not the kids that make the comments but the adults who fear the differences

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 11:58 am


I know

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 12:04 pm

No problem Saint,

Actually when I said like a hawk, I meant that I was sitting up in a tree, and I think goldfish could be more interesting than an empty swing of *any* description.


I think Saint loves you!

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 12:05 pm

hey bct,

Well it certainly looks like you have them there

rm_1hotwahine 63F
21091 posts
12/26/2005 4:30 pm

I just thought it was really funny.
But then again, I ALSO found the really long comments funny, so perhaps I'm not that discriminating when it comes to humor.

Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 6:20 pm

We know you don't discriminate Wahine!

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 6:20 pm

He's still awake Trav,

so my guess is no!


Kimmers777 106F

12/26/2005 8:46 pm

I think it's unfortunate that more people don't take a philanthropical interest in bringing things like this to more children, or even to adults.

To the masses, those swings might seem midevil or an over indulgence in political correctness. But the masses haven't shared that participant's smiles and laughter while enjoying something most of us have taken for granted since childhood. Those smiles can strip your humanity to the core and really make you question your own selfish needs.

Not to bring a downer to your post my friend. I only hope that most of the readers might welcome something so foriegn to a playground near them.

wife4stranger 57F

12/26/2005 10:17 pm

Way back in the mid 80's, the developmental center I worked for could not afford to buy one of the swings like that for the wheelchair bound kids. I taught that class, the one with the most severely handicapped kids. We went outside and sat under a tree and watched the other kids on the swings, etc.
My spouse also worked there. This bugged him to no end. He went and found salvaged swingset frames and conned a friend into providing the iron and welding work. The two of them built their own homemade version of those swings for the center.

The giggles from my profoundly handicapped kids were priceless. Truly a cherished memory. Thanks for bringing it to mind....

And no, I don't mind your lack of political correctness...I find it refreshing. Just offering a different point of view here.


bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 10:48 pm


You aren't bringing a downer to this post at all. It's just that when you don't have that missing element... all you are left with is a rather bizarre piece of equipment.

Personally I'd love to see it being used for what it was intended

bulging_boy 49M

12/26/2005 10:49 pm

wife, as you know...

all perspectives are welcome. If it wasn't for differences we'd never learn.

Sounds like a fantastic memory!

bulging_boy 49M

12/30/2005 12:59 am

Already done that mindfucker.

Interesting is one way of putting it!

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