Thing That Make Me Say WTF ?  

bardicman 50M
7540 posts
12/20/2005 12:13 pm

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Thing That Make Me Say WTF ?

A Dark night,
Cold wind blowing a chilling mist through the air. A group of people gather in the darkness holding signs and holding hand. They are all there together in support of each others beliefs that the death penalty is wrong. They are protesting the States right to end the life of someone who is guilty of bringing so much misery on so many by taking the life of someone innocent. Let the government pay to keep him alive for the rest of his life behind bars. Killing is wrong no matter who does it.

An abortion clinic. These same people who fought for the life of a convicted murderer now are going to fight for the right of someone to become a murderer. Fight for the right to suck an innocent life down the drain. First it was wrong for anyone to take a life but now here it is right?

Let Tookie Live !!!!!
Suck a baby down the drain !!!
Let Tookie Live !!!!!
Suck a baby down the drain !!!

I love America. I am happy to be a United States Citizen. Sometimes it does not make sense to me. Protect the guilty and damn the innocent.....

If that is not enough to make you scratch your ass and fart consider this same group on another one of their outtings...

This same group moves to a hospice. Now they are supporting removing the feeding tubes and allowing an innocent life to slowly and perhaps painfully starve to death.

BUT WAIT !!! THERE IS MORE.......

There is a group of people that picket the Abortion Clinics because the taking of life is such a bad thing. Yet within this group of people are those that will bomb the clinics and shoot the doctors... WTF....

Is life sacred or not ???
We will never know........




I am not dead yet


SolarPowered0 67M
8018 posts
12/20/2005 1:03 pm

Bard...

On a MUCH lighter note... there's the guy standing on the corner with a sign that reads, "HELL! I ain't gonna lie - I need a beer!" So, do you just give that sucker a buck so he can enjoy the next two hours out there with his sign and his "honesty", even though you can't stand pan-handlers?

On a MUCH heavier note... there's always that old adage:

"Kill 'em ALL! Let God sort 'em out!"

It's just the dichotomy of life. Sometimes things are wrong while other times they are right. It is almost impossible to have anything be "concrete" in this world. The only thing I know of concrete, is we all gotta go some time! The best you can hope for is to stand on what YOU believe to be right and let the rest go fuck themselves.

Merry Freakin' Christmas, Bro.

Solar...


oldman1776 78M
3164 posts
12/20/2005 1:03 pm

Humans are strange animals. Life is sacred only if it suports there cause.


rm_DaphneR 58F
7938 posts
12/20/2005 1:11 pm

As long as there is more than one person on this earth there will be differing views on things.

I think the death penalty should be exercised more often. This might possibly deter some of the hideous crimes. I believe in pro-choice, within reason. Abortion should not be used as a form of birth control. I also believe in right to die.

Not going to leave you out there by yourself.

Have tongue, will use it. Repeatedly.


HORNYVIKING722 44M
1023 posts
12/20/2005 1:28 pm

The human animal in all it's glory, can give the best advice but never follow that advice for itself, claims pride of being self reliant but craves social approval, and might revere a fallen peace and love guru like John Lennon but still be guilty of hatin' on a daily basis. *in the voice of the cat who hated people* "Peolple... I hate people." (<---as you've probably guessed those three tradgic flaws I listed pertain to me)

er...what I meant to say was "I know, right?"


rm_cockmerollme 45F
1223 posts
12/20/2005 1:30 pm

whatever gets me more presents, I'm for...

LET'S GO METS!!!


ArealUnicorn 44F

12/20/2005 2:25 pm

oh bard dont be down...life is scared as long as it is kept that way...keep urs scared and others will follow suit.


rm_luke69iner 48M
3275 posts
12/20/2005 2:29 pm

Ditto what Daph said ... sorry too lazy to type my own thoughts.

Okay I'll type here's some:

Give the death penalty to people who abuse children and the elderly. I mean the death penalty Roman Colosseum style. You know wild animals tearing them to bits and stuff.

Anyone that isn't willing to understand the hospice thing can get out of my life. That stuff makes for great TV but sometimes there aren't easy answer to those questions. Each case has to be decided by what is best for the person based on their wishes and based on input from the family. I've made decisions to allow children in my care to die earlier than they had to because their quality of life was worse than you would want for anyone. Just because we have the technology to prolong life way past a point where it is meaningful or tolerable doesn't mean we should. Just because God is a fucking moron with the way he/she/it set the rules for this existance doesn't always mean we have to make it worse.

Don't try to make sense of everything in this life. Just leads to madness or pure unadultered hate for God. Or maybe that's just my thing. I don't mind it so much though because it keeps me all warm and tingly inside. Just do what you can and go on with it. Thinking is good just know when it's too much for your own sanity. Same thing with feelings in my most humble and always 100% correct opinion. Unless you got some of that love crap then everything is all roses and all that.

"Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know."
~Ernest Hemingway~


Hmmn ... I probably should have just stayed with the ditto thing huh.


S'io credesse che mia risposta fosse
A persona che mai tornasse al mondo,
Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse.
Ma perciocche giammai di questo fondo
Non torno vivo alcun, s'i'odo il vero,
Senza tema d'infamia ti rispondo
.
~Dante~


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 2:36 pm

Ahh but solar the big question is.. do any groups of people acually hold all life as sacred or do all groups just pick and choose ?



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 2:41 pm

Oldman - Exactly right. but... why is that...



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rm_DaphneR 58F
7938 posts
12/20/2005 2:55 pm

Life is scared? Ya think maybe they meant sacred?

Have tongue, will use it. Repeatedly.


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 2:56 pm

DaphneR - I am so for the death penalty. I would welcome public hanging because I believe that it would deter crime. I know my view on that is one not shared by a lot of people but ......



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 2:59 pm

Viking - Those flaws you listed pertain to all of us. At least it is easy to imagine that they do.



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bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 3:01 pm

cockme - Now there is a new way of thinking about it. Or maybe it just sheds some light on how people think.. What ever will get me accepted into "such and such" group is how I will believe.....



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 3:05 pm

Unicorn - I am not down baby. I am just sitting here wondering why all of is seems to pick and choose the life that we want to view as sacred. I do it too. I just choose different lives to be sacred than others do..



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 3:22 pm

Luke - I like input from the people that are bold enough to give it. I agree with you on the death penalty.. I agree with you on the hospice situation... After you boil away all the emotions humans are just another part of the food chain in nature. The stronf survive and the weak are destroyed.. It is only our compassion that keeps us from being total animals. Sometimes that compassion makes life more difficult for others.



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 3:25 pm

Daph - Yea I read it as sacred.. All though.. Life can be quite scared and scarred at times.



I am not dead yet


rm_saintlianna 45F
15466 posts
12/20/2005 3:25 pm

Sometimes dead is better, but you have to take it on a case by case basis. Tookie for example did alot to reform himself yes, but it wont bring back the little girl he killed. Half of her head was missing cause he pulled the trigger. Maybe Jesus will cut him a break cause he tried to reform, dont know, aint my problem, thank God.


oldman1776 78M
3164 posts
12/20/2005 3:38 pm

Bard I think that to many people are followers and want to be accepted it just makes no diffrence by which group just as long as they belong.


oldman1776 78M
3164 posts
12/20/2005 3:42 pm

I always liked the idea of beheading in public.


DTduzDallas 50F

12/20/2005 3:54 pm

"What ever will get me accepted into "such and such" group is how I will believe..... "

It's sad that people give up their own beliefs to "fit in." Horseshit.


kyplowboy22 61M

12/20/2005 4:14 pm

I hear you, bro. Some times I wonder, " Is this what I laid in those frozen mudholes and rice paddies to protect?" Some of our people need a severe dose of ol' Dr. Phil! " What the hell were you thinkin?"

kpb

Support America, kiss a conservative today!


slidein2meplz 62F
1994 posts
12/20/2005 4:55 pm

Ditto...re: Lukes comment and Ditto...re: Bard comment back to Luke and back to Daphne...Ditto: Dt. Ditto: Saint....Ditto: Daphne.

I believe what I believe...and I don't need to join or associate with a "group" to validate it. The death penalty should be used more often and sooner than later...why allow these people to sit on death row for years and years on end?

I have never felt abortion should be used as birth control.. I know a lady who every single time she fucked up on her birth control and got knocked up she went and had it aborted. How fuckin sad is that? All because she was too fucking lazy to remember to protect herself against it to begin with.

But, abortion to save a womans life...or an abortion because there is something very seriously wrong with the child....then yes, if there is no other way past it...if it will save the mother's life or prevent a child from coming into the world with no chance of a viable life who maybe might die anyway.

And as far as right to die.. I can't go there...that's a situation that should be completely left to the individual it concerns &/or thier family/spouse.

There will always be 2 sides to everything...and as Daphne said...as long as there is more than 1 person on this earth...there will be differing views. She nailed it with that one... good job.

Quite a thought provoking post ya got here Bard.... I think it does us all good to stop and accept that these things are all part of what makes this here blue marble we call home go 'round and 'round.

~~~ Just me, poppin to say HI! ~~


frbnkslady 48F
6183 posts
12/20/2005 4:59 pm

I support the death penalty.. but only after it is proven WITHOUT a doubt the person is gulity of the crime committed. I think our Gov. needs to look at other countries that have low crime rates and see what they are doing to detere it.. like feet canning... T

T




themisskrissy 56F
2302 posts
12/20/2005 5:12 pm

i beleive in the death penalty... i beleive in the right of a woman to deterimine her own body's path... i believe in euthanasia... i beleive we are given brains and the power to reason so we can make choices...

i beleive it is time to hoist some hog nog and forget the world for a while.....

bard hon, you really need to get laid.......

Virtue Alone Ennobles


silkysmoothlegs3 105F

12/20/2005 5:12 pm

Is life sacred

I dunno
Its a confusing world
silky


tillerbabe 56F

12/20/2005 5:34 pm

I can't think about this stuff right now...


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 7:22 pm

    Quoting rm_saintlianna:
    Sometimes dead is better, but you have to take it on a case by case basis. Tookie for example did alot to reform himself yes, but it wont bring back the little girl he killed. Half of her head was missing cause he pulled the trigger. Maybe Jesus will cut him a break cause he tried to reform, dont know, aint my problem, thank God.
I understand what you are saying Lianna but.. It is easy to reform yourself sitting on death row knowing that your only hope to escape the chair is to reform. I have a thought that had the death penalty been more real to him and others there might not be a need to reform.



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 7:28 pm

    Quoting oldman1776:
    Bard I think that to many people are followers and want to be accepted it just makes no diffrence by which group just as long as they belong.
Yes oldman... to many people I think, are afraid of there own individuality. Personally, I enjoy my individuality and I welcome everyone to enjoy it as well.



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 7:31 pm

    Quoting oldman1776:
    Bard I think that to many people are followers and want to be accepted it just makes no diffrence by which group just as long as they belong.
DT - Yes it is very sad but people sell themselves out everyday. Luckily I am loyal to my beliefs and loyal to my friends. Maybe not luckily.. Maybe I am just not afraid to be convicted beliefs.



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 7:38 pm

    Quoting kyplowboy22:
    I hear you, bro. Some times I wonder, " Is this what I laid in those frozen mudholes and rice paddies to protect?" Some of our people need a severe dose of ol' Dr. Phil! " What the hell were you thinkin?"

    kpb

    Support America, kiss a conservative today!
KPB - I believe it takes both parties to keep things in check. I just dont understand how this life is sacred and that life is not.

Brother... this is what you layed in the paddie to protect. freedom of speech and belief and the freedom to express it. I thank you for that right that I have.



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 7:51 pm

    Quoting frbnkslady:
    I support the death penalty.. but only after it is proven WITHOUT a doubt the person is gulity of the crime committed. I think our Gov. needs to look at other countries that have low crime rates and see what they are doing to detere it.. like feet canning... T
Without a doubt Lady. If there was room for doubt on a conviction I would never support the death penalty.
Alot of countries have public floggings and executions. That would have to be a serious detour from a life of crime...



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 7:53 pm

    Quoting frbnkslady:
    I support the death penalty.. but only after it is proven WITHOUT a doubt the person is gulity of the crime committed. I think our Gov. needs to look at other countries that have low crime rates and see what they are doing to detere it.. like feet canning... T
Ahh yes Krissy.. Lets forget the world awhile and get shit faced.
Maybe I do need to get laid. I am going for a world record though.



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 8:07 pm

Silky - I guess it could be confusing as a word. What is more confusing as to how we all have out own ideas as to who should die and who should live...



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bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 8:09 pm

Ok tiller.. dont think.. here have another drink of wine...



I am not dead yet


rm_cockmerollme 45F
1223 posts
12/20/2005 10:01 pm

Ok, my mom is a Catholic, diehard. No abortion, no death penalty, no euthinasia...no homosexuality (because it dosen't produce life) no masturbation for men (the spilt seed, if it isn't going into a ueterus, it's wasted and a sin..so yeah, no anal and no head..now, do that for 16 years and come talk to me. Any wonder why I didn't have sex until I was 28?

LET'S GO METS!!!


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 10:39 pm

Cockme - Damn.. I didnt know catholics were against the death penalty. I thought they believed and eye for an eye..
sounds like a tough childhood though.



I am not dead yet


duststormdiva 51F
6854 posts
12/20/2005 11:27 pm

As far as hospice . . . my father was on hospice the last two weeks of his life. When people get that close to death, naturally they just stop eating. I tried to feed my father every day several times a day. All he wanted was ice cream and his meds. That's what he got. He got chocolate ice cream, strawberry, vanilla, any flavor he asked for I bought. He just could not eat anything else. He was just too frail.

As for the hypocrites who want to save a life kill a life...

I was going to go off on my soapbox, but will save it for a blog when I really want to create some waves.

DustStormDiva


redlipsprincess
(Princess Lips)
51F

12/20/2005 11:39 pm

taking a life, is taking a life...

TTFN


bardicman 50M

12/20/2005 11:54 pm

Dusty - See how you are.. Save the good stuff for your blog..

Cant say that I blame you. I really was not trying to stir much waves here I am just tryint to understand why everyone has differant opinions about who should live and who should die. Especially when you support abortion and condemn the death penalty...

I really don't see me delving into politics very much around here. This needs to be a happier place.



I am not dead yet


yagottalikit 49F
583 posts
12/21/2005 12:48 am

Bard, in short....I, too, wonder about the hypocritic thought processes among society. It's rampant in every aspect of life. We should not "play God"....nope can't allow this person to choose for themselves to die with dignity when they are ready.....but........ whoa ...we CAN "play God" by prolonging another person's life with artificial breath, etc.....
Problem is....people think in terms of black and white. There's just too much grey area to ignore!

Yagotta get it soft and wet so we can kick/stick it


bulging_boy 49M

12/21/2005 12:53 am

People are all entitled to their own beliefs until they feel the need to force others to share that.

Violence against others is somehow testiment to the bizarre minds of these people.


bardicman 50M

12/21/2005 1:54 am

Yagotta - Man thats another thing. The Kevorkian thing. Why can we not allow people that are terminally ill to choose to die with dignity and without having to suffer all the pain that is coming. It would spare them and many others alot of suffering.. No we should not play god. Never. But yet we do.



I am not dead yet


bardicman 50M

12/21/2005 2:01 am

Bulge - It seems that it is human nature to force ones beliefs on someone else though.. strange..



I am not dead yet


MaggiesWishes 60F

12/21/2005 2:43 am

It's tough to preach if you don't practice it.

I fought hard for the Ruling of Bill 91.(It became effective in 1995 for the right to terminate if death was terminal and imitate) I want to believe there is compassion in this world for life and death. I watched too many suffer because life was being held over by a machine, with no hope for a "normal" life. Including some of my family, that are now gone.

The Death penalty is needed more than ever, for crimes that are just too horrid to think of. The system needs inner change too.

Religion will always play apart in "Man's" interpretation of what is sacred in life. Can't get around that one.
**note~ It's the Bible Belt that thinks, an eye for an eye.

AND the right to a woman's body SHOULD be her choice. Not a method of Birth Control, I can agree on that. It's always going to be a "scuffle" over the Roe vs Wade decision until the end of time.
Better education in sexual matters within the home and community are needed, cause WE aren't reaching the kids by public methods of scaring them with diseases, HIV/AIDS or death.

I have my DNR papers, my closest friends know my wishes. I pray that I never have to make another decision for someone's choice in life, but my own, again.


2xTwiceShy 51M
470 posts
12/21/2005 4:50 am

<---- Takes out legalized assault weapon.

Did somebody register a complaint?


KC_JJ 54M

12/21/2005 7:03 am

Personally I'm a plants, viral, fungal, and bacterial rights activist.

That means no desenex, cruex or miconizol (for you ladies).

No aids drugs, flu shots or antibiotics either.

My guilty pleasure though is that I sometimes ceremonially imbibe psilocybin mushrooms for spiritual communion.

But the fungi have always accepted my apologies for their sacrifice so I don't feel so bad aqbout it in the end.

I sure love burgers though. But I always give my regards to the cow as I'm downing it.

KC_JJ

MMM [ MMM


expatbrit49 62M

12/21/2005 9:07 am

Its a fucked up world, but hey what you gonna do

Have a great Christmas

Thank You for Your Time and Attention


SolarPowered0 67M
8018 posts
12/21/2005 10:22 am

Bard...

The first principle of any group is that it ALWAYS operates on the lowest common denominator. The more people involved the lower (or more base) that denominator becomes. Individuals, conversely, have the freedom to make, and consequently, live with decisions which a group is unlikely to make on it's own - or even have to live with.

Yes, there are people who hold all life sacred. They can usually be found atop very high mountains, sitting cross-legged with their palms pointing upward and mumbling rather uninteligible sounds to the powers that be. They have a unique environment in which to live - in the middle of nowhere with no contact from other humans. I sort of do that, here. Although I have this DSL connection and a Bat Phone and of course I eat differently which requires bi-weekly excursions into town 40 miles away. While there I am constantly confronted with assholes, most of whom I would love to see put out of my misery. It never works out that way, however.

Then I return to my very high mountain top fortress, pet my dog and cat, say hello to my trees, cook myself up some jambalaya, throw down a few shots of Patron and kick back knowing I won't have to make any more fucking decisions for at least another 12-14 days. It's a good feeling to know if someone comes bothering me, I can just wave a 12 gauge at them and 99 out of 100 times, I won't even have to pull the trigger!

It's all just a game. A freaking game that nobody wins at. Some are lucky enough to get through it in one piece (physically and/or mentally.) Most do not. One thing I can tell you for certain... I used to worry about the how's and why's of life. I don't any more. Not because it isn't worth it... but, because there ain't no answers forthcoming! If there were answers, we all would have them and things would be significantly different here on this piss-assed planet. I'll stick to the mountain tops. And the rest... well that's why I got my 12 gauge! I plan on going out intact. And if anyone decides to change my mind... I'm gonna make sure they think twice about that.

Don't worry, Bard, my friend. You ain't one of them! *ROTFLMFAO*

Solar...


rm_1hotwahine 63F
21091 posts
12/21/2005 10:40 am

I avoided commenting yesterday because this paradox drives me absolutely friggin' nuts! My issue is not what someone believes or doesn't believe regarding the sanctity of life. The thing that pushes my buttons is the inconsistency with which we apply it. I hear ya on this one!

Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]


ArealUnicorn 44F

12/21/2005 2:09 pm

Life is sacred Bard but so is choice and I guess it depends on which one is more sacred....death penalty is good wish we had it up here in the north....abortion well that's good to have that choice available...but I must agree why fight for life with death...ie killing abortion clinic staff. I must say tho glad to be here instead of there...having to make that choice, flip the switch in all cases...flip it on the chair/chamber/needles, flip it on the vacum, flip it on the feeding machine or flip it on the bomb...glad I don't have the choice on which to flip...the only choice I have is to flip someone the bird...


Light_N_Truth 42M
50 posts
12/22/2005 4:19 am

Do you know what makes me say WTF? Nothing, I have seen it all.

Your Lord and Master Light_N_Truth


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