It's all Political  

akron42  
1434 posts
6/15/2006 2:56 pm

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It's all Political


Everytime I go to the gas station, I get angrier and angrier. Now, I've never been a fan of the W and been very vocal about that fact. I'm embarassed that he's our President, and when he was re-elected, my husband and I seriously considered moving out of the country. He interviewed with a company in Puerto Rico, and was offered the job. What held us back? We both have elderly parents here that need our help. My mom has Alzheimer's and has forgotten almost everybody but me and I can't leave her when she needs me. But we didn't think we could afford 4 more years of Bush. Do all of you realize that everytime gasoline prices go up, Bush makes a little more money? For those of you who don't know this, he is part of the Carlyle Group. This is an oil conglomerate and guess who his partners include? The Bin Laudens. Yes, that's right. Our president is in business with the same family that claims rights to 911. Did you also know that the day after 911, Bush allowed the Bin Lauden family to leave the US under heavy escort with no repurcussions. Don't get the wrong idea of me, I support our troops 100%! The men and women that serve without question, that give their lives for our freedom. They should be treated with honor and respect for the burden they have taken on and the sacrifices they make every day. But I think they are being used as pawns in a very dangerous game by our government. These are some of the bravest people I have ever met and they deserve better than they are getting. What I don't understand is, why isn't Bush accountable for what he has done? Why is he allowed to carry on such a conflict of interest? Any comments? I would love to hear YOUR opinion and will respect it.

a123rat 49M
1113 posts
6/17/2006 1:14 pm

Gas is expensive everywhere! Over $4.00 a gallon here in Canada, where we have more crude than any single country in the world.
Yeah, it's political, but can't make myself believe the war in the middle east is about oil. I'm not a big fan of the Pres. either but I am a fan of fighting terrorism. We are defending freedom, both ours and the freedom of those people in war torn regions.
As far as conflict of interest goes, our last Prime Minister had a shipping company with his ships registered in another country to avoid taxes. Capitalism at work.


akron42 replies on 6/19/2006 5:11 pm:
Wow, I guess we're lucky we have the gas prices we do! I have a relative in California and they're paying 5-6 bucks a gallon! And I agree with you about terrorism. We HAVE to help when a country is unable to defend itself, even from it's own people. I hope everybody gets to come home soon, safely. Thanks for writing!

playtime44uandi 53M
6545 posts
6/17/2006 8:09 pm

I think a123rat makes a good point. Gas is crazy expencive all over the world right now.
the unfrtuante truth is that people will do what ever they think they can get away with. that goes for polititions too. They think of themselves & there family's & friends first. Everyone else is left to fend for themselves. Its rare that you find someone that helps a stranger anymore.

~We'll Leave The Light On~


akron42 replies on 6/19/2006 5:09 pm:
You're so right! Wouldn't things be alot better if people could see beyond their own problems and help someone else? Actually, it makes me see that my problems aren't so bad when I see someone else who is having trouble. Thanks for the input!

rm_smis4u 57F
9 posts
6/18/2006 5:40 pm

I totally agree with you 100% and then some! The price of gas is crazy. I was laid off from my job 1 month ago, I can't afford gas to look for a new one! I don't think the U.S. can stand for 2 more years of Mr. Bush. The U.S. is in such bad shape now, I can't even imagine what will happen in the next 2 years. I did not vote for him and I never will vote for anyone named Bush! I personally am a big fan of Mr. William Jefferson Clinton. I voted for him both times. The U.S. was never in better shape than when Bill was in office. When will people in Washington wake up and realize that the rest of us don't care if Bill was getting a blow job under the desk in the oval office. All we care about is ourselves and our families. Bill cared about the little guy all MR. BUSH cares about his how he can make more money and who he can hurt in the process.
I have great memories that will be with me forever, I got to see Bill Clinton & Al Gore along with Hillary & Tipper before Bill got elected the first time at a rally in Cleveland,Ohio. They were all amazing. Then after he was elected the first time he came back to Cleveland, this time with a whole army of secret service guys, it was really cool, he was suppose to leave right after the speech but he does what he wants and in true Bill style he went into the crowd.
He was shaking everyone's hand, I got to shake his hand too! I will never forget it! I was about 4-5 inches away from him, I couldn't believe it!
I believe that if any one other than a Bush was governor of Florida George Bush would not of ever set foot in the white house. Al Gore won the election, everyone voted for him. If anyone watched Bush's face when they told him he lost Florida, to me he acted like "no I didn't" and he was pissed that someone wasn't doing his job right.
I also went to a rally for John Kerry he also was amazing. I feel he also should of won the election. He should of used more of his wife's ketchup money!
What will become of the U.S. in the next 2 years? With Iran getting geared up with nuclear weapons, Korea already has them, whose to say we will even be around? All Bush cares about is his own self, if he pissed them off to the point of pushing the button what would he care he can be safe wherever they put the President in that kind of situation. The rest of us will be DUST!


akron42 replies on 6/19/2006 5:06 pm:
AMEN! I couldn't agree with you more! Thank you so much for writing.

SirMounts 102M

6/19/2006 1:52 pm

I'm really glad George Bush is president. He does what he feels is right, without regard to polls or politics. I like character in a leader. *smiling*


akron42 replies on 6/19/2006 5:07 pm:
I respect your opinion. I hope everything gets better for all of us, regardless of what we do or don't like. I'm glad you stopped by my blog and left a comment. Thanks!

rm_teecee99 59M

6/19/2006 4:27 pm

Hi Akron 42 ... I am on the other side of the fence but would love to get together with you to discuss!! One thing you should do is check the sources you get information from at a site such as factcheck.org or one of the other sites that verify the vast amount of bs that appears on websites (and both sides are guilty)

By the way do you know that Puerto Rico is a United States Territory. And when Bill Clinton was President the Military had Bin Laden located and requested Clintons Approval to "eliminate" him but Bill was too busy talking golf with a golf buddy to be interrupted by his military advisor for his approval to proceed with the mission.

In any event I try to have an open mind when talking politics but know that I believe in a strong military and believe my wages are my money not the governments and the less tax I pay the better (and I am not one the ultra rich)

Hope to chat with you one day!


akron42 replies on 6/20/2006 7:58 am:
I do know about Puerto Rico being a US holding, but they have a separate governmental body if I understand it correctly. I agree we must have a strong military and respect all those men and women who put it on the line every day. I would love to talk politics with you! The only subject better to debate in my opinion is religion! Or better yet, religion IN politics! Thanks teecee!

SirMounts 102M

6/20/2006 12:18 am

Why thank you, akron. And I, yours. I guess to be tolerant of another opinion, one has to disagree in the first place. *winking* But far more importantly, it's good to know others are thinking about serious issues. And that's something that we both have in common. *smiling warmly*


akron42 replies on 6/20/2006 7:59 am:
I think you've hit the nail on the head. If we could all be a little more tolerant of other's views and opinions, the world would be a better place. I'm glad to hear from you!

SirMounts 102M

6/21/2006 3:08 am

Hey, I want in on this debate thing! *winking*


johngault8686 56M/51F
2 posts
6/21/2006 2:01 pm

I was checking AdultFriendFinder e-mail and our friends network and caught some of your web show earlier this afternoon (VERY NICE ) and discovered your blog in the process. WOW, on top of being very sexy and hot physically, you are equally stimulating intellectually! Very nice combo! With that said though, we can't agree with all of your comments. Yes, gas prices suck (we own a business and it has had a real impact on our bottom line), however, the prices are really a result of the supply & demand for oil on the world market. It is interesting to hear the politicans scream about oil company profits, and yet, the percentage of profits versus revenue has not really changed. What has changed is that the world is only producing so much oil and countries like India and China have greatly increased their demand. It also doesn't help that a new oil refinery hasn't been built in the US in over 20 years (so how can supply keep up with demand)? Also, the Carlyle Group is an investment house, co-founded by a man who had served in the Carter administration (hardly friends of the Bush family). The group has advisors from all over the political spectrum (the Reagan, Bush-1 and Clinton administrations all being represented) as many financial/investment organizations always do. They have to play both sides of the asisle.

Great show and great discussion and thanks for asking from input from all sides!


akron42 replies on 6/21/2006 3:11 pm:
I'm so glad you stopped by! I think we need to work harder on alternate forms of energy, I know hydrogen has been targeted for fuel and I hope we can get that happening soon. Thanks for all your input!

johngault8686 56M/51F
2 posts
6/21/2006 2:23 pm

Hi Simus4u! After reading your posting here I just wanted to point out a few things that you might want to consider when you rave about Bill Clinton: 1. Companies like Enron, WorldCom, Global Crossing and the Dot Com expansion (built on false expectations) all occurred while he was in office. It is always interesting to see the politicans (and unfortunately the press) completely forget who was in power when the corrupt CEO's & staff were running these companies into the ground and putting the shaft to a load of investors and loyal employees. It's interest to see that the Bush administration has prosecuted and won verdicts against many of the top officers of these companies. 2. Bill is so much for the little people that he was taking millions of dollars from Arab interests (including the Dubai port authority - which Hillary didn't know about and caused her to be embarrassed recently when it came to light), raised taxes and then had the gall to lie to us all about something that if it wasn't such a big deal, he should have been man enough to admit. 3. Over 100,000 people in Africa killed in tribal conficts - what did Bill do? Nothing. Over 15,000 killed in northern Iraq by chemical weapons (oh yeah, what WMD's? Hard to ask all of those who died from them) - what did Bill do? Nothing. World Trade Center attacked, USS Cole attacked, US military complex attacked in Saudi Arabia, US embassies attacked in Africa, US soldiers killed in Somalia, North Korea already working on nuclear device, Bin Laden plots major US attack and what did Bill do? Shoot a couple of cruise missles to blow up a milk factory in Sudan and a couple of buildings in Afghanistan. President Bush isn't perfect and there are definitely areas that need to be addressed, including many foreign policy issues. However, unemployment is near record lows, more people own homes than ever before and the economy continues to grow but nobody seems to want to mention those positives. I'm not saying that it is easy for everybody because it sure isn't, especially in Ohio where our Governor is clueless about leadership and where there are real serious economic issues that need to be discussed and solutions come up with to handle them. Sorry for the length but wanted to share the "other side of the story"! Good luck in finding a new job! Just remeber, there is always a light at the end of the tunnel (okay, so sometimes it is the train!


Choozmi 50M

6/25/2006 11:29 am

Bush is a criminal. It's not about political beliefs; it's about him breaking the laws of this country. Check out his "signing statements" in which he asserts that he actually has the right to not enforce laws he is actually signing. He's done this over 750 times so far.

There are many other instances of Bush Jr. breaking the law (yes, BREAKING) including lying about WMDs, spying on Americans (now he's yanking our banking records), and reading "My Pet Goat" while Americans die in towers and airplanes (okay, the last was simply a crime against humanity).

I happen to be a fan of Clinton myself but if I were you I wouldn't bring him up too often because for some reason many Bush Jr. fans think Clinton is still running for office and they spend a lot of time trying to discredit him.

Other things to think about:

Gas isn't up to $5 or $6 per gallon in California. Not yet, anyway. Prices in L.A. are around $3.40 currently. Outlying areas may be higher. Regardless, it's still gouging. Oil companies aren't charging this much because they have to; they're doing so because no one is stopping them. And lest anyone whine about the free market setting prices and all that, we should face the fact that gasoline is not a luxury item but a necessity, in the same way that electricity and telephone service are necessities. We in California and several other states know how bad it can get when a utility charges what it wants without regulation (thanks, Enron). Gas prices should be regulated but they won't be by this administration because oil companies put George Jr. into office to do precisely what he's doing: jack the prices up.

There is a lot of evidence that both elections that delivered Jr. to the White House may have been fixed. Don't take my word for it; as the gentleman above suggested, check out alternate news sources. As many as you can. And try sources from outside the U.S. -- they are often far more revealing.

Oh, and enjoy the freedom to surf anywhere and everywhere on the Internet while it lasts: if the net Neutrality bill passes (if it hasn't already) then that may be crippled or eliminated soon as well.

I sound cynical but there is hope. I went to a screening of the new Al Gore movie in L.A. last night ("An Inconvenient Truth") and Mr. Gore himself was there. He said some great things and I'm really hoping he runs again so he can win the White House again (and stay there this time).

One great thought from the movie (to paraphrase):

It is very difficult to convince someone that something is true when his salary depends on it not being true. (One reason why there's so much manufactured "doubt" about the truth of global warming.)


SirMounts 102M

6/25/2006 11:49 am

When Bill Clinton was president, I used to feel that he was a criminal too. Especially because he lied under oath, accepted suitcases of money from the Chinese military, then allowed China to obtain the technology to MIRV their missiles, meaning that only one of their missiles can now take out a number of American cities all at once.
That was in the "good old days", before President Bush.


Choozmi 50M

6/26/2006 11:53 pm

    Quoting SirMounts:
    When Bill Clinton was president, I used to feel that he was a criminal too. Especially because he lied under oath, accepted suitcases of money from the Chinese military, then allowed China to obtain the technology to MIRV their missiles, meaning that only one of their missiles can now take out a number of American cities all at once.
    That was in the "good old days", before President Bush.
Whatever Clinton did, his lies didn't murder Americans. George Jr.'s are killing Americans.

Oh, and it's a fact that Bush is breaking the law. However millions was wasted on investigating Whitewater, Bill wasn't found guilty of anything. And lying about getting a blow job is a far cry from lying to the U.N. about weapons of mass destruction.

Bush is a criminal.


flyfloridaguy 35M
7 posts
7/3/2006 8:07 am

Come on folks let's not kid ourselves. Bush has been a great business man. The economy is up, the rich keep getting richer, outsourcing is at an all time high, gas companies are making record profits, and we now control one of the gas capitols of the world. Let's not fool ourselves, their is a serious conflict in interest. As a businessman he has been sucessful. But we didn't hire him as a businessman.....we hired him as our President. As a President he sucks, the poor are still poor, our powerful country still has lower school performance than all of the other powerful countries, and just about all other countries hate us....and I can't really blame em. There is zero accountability whatsoever with this government. Bush could stab a man cold blood in the street tomorrow and they would find some foolish reason to get him out of it and make us all have to swallow it.


akron42 replies on 7/3/2006 12:48 pm:
THANK YOU!!!!!!

SirMounts 102M

7/3/2006 5:21 pm

    Quoting Choozmi:
    Whatever Clinton did, his lies didn't murder Americans. George Jr.'s are killing Americans.

    Oh, and it's a fact that Bush is breaking the law. However millions was wasted on investigating Whitewater, Bill wasn't found guilty of anything. And lying about getting a blow job is a far cry from lying to the U.N. about weapons of mass destruction.

    Bush is a criminal.
Well, to accuse the president of murder and being a criminal for placing us into a war, is like accusing Lincoln, Wilson, and Roosevelt of being murderers, too. You can do that of course but... will anyone take you seriously if you do?
And if you care to look into it, it's a matter of record that Bill lied under oath. That's when you Swear that you'll tell the Truth, the Whole truth, and Nothing But the truth, remember? Well, if you don't, that's OK. Clinton "forgot" too... and he's a lawyer! LOL!
Um... but I guess the President IS guilty of not being psychic. All the best intelligence from All over the world said that there were weapons of mass distruction, probably moved to Syria because Turkey let us down and prevented from attacking from there, allowing the Iraqi military that avenue of escape. But, it really doesn't matter how many dictators we get rid of. It's those who are freely elected by the people, and doing things right, that always get most slandered by the left. A very... anti-democratic lot.


SirMounts 102M

7/3/2006 5:35 pm

    Quoting flyfloridaguy:
    Come on folks let's not kid ourselves. Bush has been a great business man. The economy is up, the rich keep getting richer, outsourcing is at an all time high, gas companies are making record profits, and we now control one of the gas capitols of the world. Let's not fool ourselves, their is a serious conflict in interest. As a businessman he has been sucessful. But we didn't hire him as a businessman.....we hired him as our President. As a President he sucks, the poor are still poor, our powerful country still has lower school performance than all of the other powerful countries, and just about all other countries hate us....and I can't really blame em. There is zero accountability whatsoever with this government. Bush could stab a man cold blood in the street tomorrow and they would find some foolish reason to get him out of it and make us all have to swallow it.
Well, about all I can say to all that is, if you liberate your mind of facts, and replace them with ill will, then you can make just about anyone seem to be the... um, antichrist!
Actually, president constitutionally have little control over the economy. Presidents generally just get the credit when it is good, and the blame when it is bad. It seems even getting credit for the great economy is denied him. Even though his tax cuts are obviously working.
But, even when he does everything right, some will then... manufacture criticism. Because that's how ideologues... think.


RevJoseyWales 69M/66F
14393 posts
7/6/2006 6:58 pm

Do you ALWAYS let idiots hijack your blog? Ah the hell with 'em. Now you know where your friends are. Don't let those two push you around. Being nice to neocons breeds contempt and blog litter.
Joe

"McVeigh had the right idea, wrong address."

"This ain't Dodge City, and you ain't Bill Hickok."


SirMounts 102M

7/8/2006 1:57 am

Actually, I'm more libertarian than anything else. Perhaps next time, you'd be kind enough to ask, first. *winking*
Um... don't believe in free speech? That's too bad.


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